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Daytime Talk Shows Eroding Landscape: Budgets, Audience, and Video Podcasts, Could Spell Its End
- With The Kelly Clarkson Show, Sherri canceled, and The Jennifer Hudson Show on the bubble, daytime talk show formats longevity is in question.
- Video podcasts such as Call Me Daddy, Good Hang with Amy Poehler, and IMO with Michelle Obama and Craig Robinson and more, are bringing A-list celebrity guests and topics to a broader streaming audience for less cost.
- Daytime Talk Show production costs have sky-rocketed with a decline in viewership overall.
Daytime programming is currently going under yet another shift, similar to how the soap operas began to get canned from 2009-2011, resulting in four shows (Guiding Light, As the World Turns, All My Children and One Life to Live) leaving the daytime TV block, being replaced by how-to shows that eventually fizzled. Now in 2026, the daytime talk show is the next in the cycle to be undergoing a significant change.
As previously reported, The Kelly Clarkson Show is ending its run after its current 7th season comes to a close, and the same can be said for Sherri Shepherd’s talker Sherri which was canceled by its distributor and producer Debmar-Mercury after its current 4th season. Meanwhile, there have been conflicting reports that The Jennifer Hudson Show will survive and be renewed for a 5th season.
So what gives? Are audiences just sick of the format? Not necessarily so, but just like soap opera budgets became too big, the talk shows are now not cheap to producer with skyrocketing production costs. Add that to the fact there is a huge boom in video podcasts that publicists book their A-list clients on, and often prefer to do that, where the exposure on You Tube and other streaming platforms is huge as opposed to cable or syndication.

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According to the Hollywood Reporter, “Back-to-back cancellations of talk show staples like The Kelly Clarkson Show and Sherri have heightened fears that video podcasts are coming for traditional TV. Podcasts have already been taking a greater share in the media space, as the shows are able to land the same high-profile guests (take Michelle Obama on Call Her Daddy or Leonardo DiCaprio on New Heights). At the same time, they command a broad reach on YouTube, and now on platforms like Netflix.”
In addition, they share, “TV executives, producers and talent note that video podcasts produce a product that is familiar to talk show and news viewers at a fraction of the price.” They also offer a longer-form interview with their guests, that can be cut up into many viral shorts.
Speaking of cost, talk shows have been a heavily unionized operation. The Jennifer Hudson Show has WGA writers on staff, IATSE crew members a DGA stage manager who oversees rehearsals and tapings. The report added, “With some exceptions, those union jobs are threatened by the rise of lo-fi programming made for digital platforms that in many cases are not beholden to union contracts.”
Video podcasts that are extremely popular with celebrity guests or health and wellness topics include: Amy Poehler’s Emmy-winning, Good Hang, Alex Cooper’s Call Her Daddy, The Joe Rogan Experience, IMO hosted by Michelle Obama and her brother, Craig Robinson, Let’s Talk Off Camera with Kelly Ripa, or Gwyneth Paltrow’s Goop Podcast to name but a few popular ones.
So, do you watch video podcasts more and more as your ‘talk show’ fare or do you still tune-in to your traditional TV daytime talk shows? Do you think come 2027 there may only be a few or none on daytime programming? How would you feel about it? Share your thoughts via the comment section below.
I love the Young and the Restless !
With social media, there isn’t a mystique to celebrities appearing on talk shows. If you see someone promoting a movie, it is safe to say they will appear on the morning shows and then on a talk show, basically saying the same thing. Plus, we can see everything we want on their social media pages.
I like Kelly, but only in small doses. It is funny that two of the best voices in music (Kelly and Jennifer) spend the majority of their time hosting talk shows, while most music artists spend their time writing, recording and touring.
I’m not sure what the budgets are for game shows. Obviously, with “The Price Is Right” still being the number one daytime show, and “Wheel of Fortune” and “Jeopardy” being number one in syndication, here is an audience for game shows. I would love to see “Password” (minus the silliness of the Kiki Palmer version) and “Concentration” come back, as well as “All My Children.”
I want All My Children back, even if the show was only a 30 minute daily episode! I also think that Days of our Lives deserves to be back on NBC.
Doubt we’ll ever see another 30- minute soap launched again. B&B only works because of its international distribution.
NBC gave DAYS slot back to its affiliates. Prior to moving to Peacock, the show was only averaging 1.5 million viewers a day. BTG is pulling in numbers above that in its first year.
Beyond the Gates
‘Beyond the Gates’ Actress Jen Jacob Reveals Pregnancy

Congratulations are in order for Jen Jacob (Ashley Morgan, Beyond the Gates) and her husband, musician Jesse Ruben. The two will be welcoming their first baby girl to their growing family in March of 2027 after Jacob that she is pregnant!
Jen took to her Instagram account and shared sonogram images of the couple’s little bundle of joy growing inside of her. She captioned the montage of images, “Mom & Dad have entered the chat. Baby girl coming March 2027 🩷” The post is set to the music of Thurston Harris’ “Little Bitty Pretty One.”
This marks the first child for the duo who have been married for the last 8 years and recently celebrated their wedding anniversary just last week on October 7.

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Ruben wrote on the occasion, “Eight years ago today, I got to marry my favorite person. Jen Jaccob, hank you for saying yes, and being the best, most patient and kind and loving partner. How lucky am I, to get to do life with you. I love doing life with you.”
BEYOND THE GATES CAST OVERJOYED
Upon the news, several of Jen’s Beyond the Gates costars were on the ready and jumped in the post comment thread including: Daytime Emmy nominee Arielle Prepetit (Naomi).“I’m gonna be an auntieeeee!! Yasss!♥️” That was followed by RhonniRoseMantilla (Chelsea), who aded, “YAYYYYY BTG BABY BTG BABYYYY💕💕💕”
Daytime Emmy nominee, Karla Mosley (Dani) wrote, “❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ love love LOVE – there aren’t enough hearts in the world.” Meanwhile, Daphnee Duplaix (Nicole) added, “Can’t wait for our newest family member!!!!” Lauren Buglioli (Vanessa) expressed: “EEEEEE!!! Aunt Lauren loves you baby girllll”

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WILL THE CBS SOAP OPERA FOLLOW SUIT AND MAKE ASHLEY PREGNANT?
Meanwhile on CBS daytime’s Beyond the Gates, Ashley still remains unlucky in love. Her ex-boyfriend, Derek Baldwin (Ben Gavin) died, she had initially split with suitor Grayson Perez (Jordi Vilasuso) after the The Impaler blood plasma reveal, but now seems back together with him. Previously, Ashley had a flirtation with Andre Richardson (Sean Freeman), which could still come back around in the future.
No word yet if Ashley will become pregnant on-screen during the time of Jen’s pregnancy or if she will be hiding behind the nurses station desk to cover her baby bump at Garland Memorial Hospital.
Share your congrats to Jen and Ben on the announcement of their baby on the way via the comment section, and let us know if you think Beyond the Gates should or will, write Jen’s pregnancy into the story for Ashley?
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B&B’s Dual Emmy-Nominee Lawrence Saint-Victor on Black Representation in the Soaps, ‘Our Voices Are Being Heard. I Want to Make Sure That Continues’

When Lawrence Saint-Victor (Carter Walton, The Bold and the Beautiful) was announced to be nominated this year at the upcoming 53rd annual Daytime Emmy Awards for not only Outstanding Supporting Actor in a Daytime Drama Series, but also as part of the nominated Writing Team from the CBS soap, it was a big moment in his life and his career.
As many know, Saint-Victor has been a veteran of soap opera since back in his early days as Remy on the now defunct Guiding Light. Fast-forward to some 17 years later since the conclusion of GL, and Lawrence is nominated in a year that is a breakthrough for Black performers and creatives behind the scenes in the soaps, which for decades was never the case in daytime television.
With the advent and launch in 2025 of the first Black-led hour-long daytime drama, Beyond the Gates locking down 15 nominations going into Emmy night on October 30 and a host of other writing and acting nominees, the tide seems to have shifted. It’s something Saint-Victor hopes will continue for years to come.

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THE TIDE HAS TURNED
Speaking with Ebony, Lawrence shared on his dual nominations, “I’ve sat with those thoughts and feelings for some time, thinking about what these nominations mean to me, especially as the first Black man in daytime to be nominated for acting and writing in the same year.”
Saint-Victor is nominated in the Outstanding Supporting Performance in a Daytime Drama Series: Actor alongside: Sean Dominic (Nate, Y&R), Mike Manning (Smitty, BTG), Michael Graziadei (Daniel, Y&R), Roger Howarth (Matt, Y&R), Timon Kyle Durrett (Bill, BTG).
On his journey in soaps, Lawrence explained, “So many Black men and women, both in front of and behind the camera, pushed the door open and kept pushing so that I could walk through. They fought to be seen, heard, and given an opportunity. I don’t take for granted that I get to stand on the other side of those doors now. And I believe it’s my responsibility — as well as the responsibility of my brothers and sisters in this industry — to keep pushing. That feels especially important to me as a writer.”
MORE WORK TO DO FOR INCLUSIVENESS
Lawrence added, “Representation can’t exist only in front of the camera. Our perspective and our experiences need to be present in the work too. Our experiences are not one thing. Black people are not one thing. We are romantic. We are funny. We are angry. We are heroic. We are flawed. We are sexy. We are vulnerable. We are complicated. We still have a lot of work to do, but we have also come so far.”
Win or lose, Lawrence believes this will be a moment for inclusiveness, celebration, and to inspire: “The fruit of the fight to be heard is coming to harvest. I am a leading man in a leading story on my show, and I’m also a writer on that very show AND I stand on the shoulders of giants. Our voices are being heard. I want to make sure that continues.”
The 53rd annual Daytime Emmys will be streamed on the official Emmys You Tube Channel as well as streamed on the official website The Emmys via watch.theemmys.tv.
So, have you been thrilled to see how the door has opened for Black representation in front of the camera and behind the scenes at your favorite daytime soaps? What do you think about Lawrence’s dual nominations heading into Emmy night? Share your thoughts on the state of the soaps via the comment section below.
General Hospital
‘General Hospital’ Alum Eva LaRue Talks Guest Performer Daytime Emmy Nod With Maurice Benard: ‘I Only Have a Nomination Because of You’

It was back in episodes of June of 2025 that saw the undoing and ultimate death of Natalia Rogers-Ramirez after complex and poignant scenes delivered by soap opera vet, Eva LaRue on General Hospital. Prior to her demise, Sonny (Maurice Benard) had Natalia believing they were going to head out of the country and set up their lives together, only for Sonny to pull out at the last moment after learning of all of Natalia’s deception.
Throughout her run on GH, LaRue’s Natalia became one of the most hated characters of the year, especially because of the character’s bigotry against her own gay children, Marco (Adrian Anchondo) and Blaze (Jacqueline Grace Lopez), and that she was revealed to be the ex-wife of Jenz Sidwell (Carlo Rota). But even with all that, Eva triumphed and secured a Daytime Emmy nomination going into the 53rd annual Daytime Emmy Awards on October 30 in the Outstanding Guest Performance in a Daytime Drama Series.
LaRue faces tough competition from the other nominees that include: Christopher Sean (Paul, Days of our Lives), Jasmine Burke (June Hughes, Beyond the Gates), Jeff Kober (ex-Cyrus Renault, General Hospital), and Ray Wise (ex-Ian Ward, The Young and the Restless).

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EVA LARUE SCORED HER FOURTH EMMY NOMINATION
Now, on a new Sunday, October 11 edition of Maurice Benard’s mental health series, State of Mind, the two former co-stars talked about LaRue’s fourth Daytime Emmy nomination. She previously won an Emmy for her work as as Celeste Rosales on The Young and the Restless in this same category in 2020, and was nominated three other times including this year.
The others were for co-writing the song, “Dance with You Again” for All My Children in 2004 and in 1997 in the Supporting Actress category her role as Mario Santos on the beloved ABC soap opera.
Speaking on her nomination, LaRue says it’s Maurice who was truly helped her deliver her performances. “I only have a nomination because of you,” she said to the three-time Daytime Emmy winning Lead Actor. “You said to me that you were going to get nominated.” Eva added, “God bless the writers because they wrote some fantastic stuff for me to go out on.”
Maurice responded, “You had levels in your work that day that we did those scenes. But you were on fire!”

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MAURICE BENARD’S BOLD EMMY PREDICTION
Explaining the category she is nominated for to Benard, LaRue said, “I’m nominated for Outstanding Guest Performance in a Daytime Drama Series. So (the category) was those of us who were like not on contract, but we were there for a while. I mean now, I feel like that guest thing is so much more competitive than it ever was, because so many of the soap operas are taking people off contract, which then throws them into the Guest category.”
Benard, who shares he has great Emmy karma predicting the acting awards on daytime’s biggest night, made his bold 2026 prediction sharing his pick. “I would say you’re gonna win (to LaRue). And I would say if not, it’s between you and somebody else. There’s no reason why you wouldn’t win for the ‘Guest’ category.”
You can watch part 1 of the conversation between Eva LaRue and Maurice Benard on State of Mind below. With part 2 being released next Sunday on October 18.
Now, let us know, do you think Eva has a chance at grabbing the gold for her work as Natalia-Rogers Ramirez on General Hospital? Would you like to see her win? It’s been a very heavy time for Eva after just recently losing her brother. Let us know your thoughts via the comment section.
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