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Chappell, Rogers & Madison Discuss Agnes Nixon's Involvement In Prospect Park's AMC & OLTL!

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I agree with Tristan Rogers .. Agnes is an icon a woman of legacy fame.. Her creations are everlasting.. But, would she want to tarnish her legacy with what is now wanted for the internet soaps? Theses two soaps are no longer under the restraints of network TV and are in the hands of younger 21st century men who have different thoughts from the unchanged network soaps, that have had little change in 50 yrs and never made it to the now media of this generation of the 21st century. Time moves on and the people with it.. The old… Read more »
50s shows didnt have to show people in bed together because that generation were intelligent enough to use their imagination. Where is it written that we have to show every couple in bed together just to prove they have a sex life? Just because you dont see the couple down the street in bed together doesnt mean theyr not doing it. I Love Lucy and Leave It To Beaver didnt have to be real. We watch shows like this to escape the real world. I feel soap sex is erotic and good enough as it is. It doesnt have to… Read more »
By the way many network shows have outlived cable shows and both networks and cable have lost viewers to other outlets.
Showing sex scenes on soap is really over rated and really isn’t needed.
Tell me story and imply sex , why do we need to see IT.
Sorry, but i cut myself off too soon. One finale thing i like to mention is that to really compare network soaps to cable, id like to see cable do a soap with racey content and place it opposite the highly rated Y&R. If they beat Y&R, then maybe ill agree with you that cable is stealing viewers from the network. And i did say maybe.
Jim,
You have made some great points. If the new AMC/OLTL push the envelope they may lose their some of their viewers.
Now that im not distracted by my crazy family and able to reread your comments i do agree with you on some of what you said, and hope you realize my reply wasnt against everything you said i was trying to point things out to other readers as well. I feel the changes will be minor as well…i hope they dont go too far…because they could hurt these classic shows by offending some people and they will tune out. Not only could they tarnish Agnes they could tarnish the shows reputation as well. Im sure they wont be doing soft… Read more »
Ehh I don’t think Agnes has much of a problem moving soaps forward she was all for Bianca having a girlfriend and well didn’t mind her having sex scenes LOL yes it will be different maybe a bit more racy but come on now this woman OK’d Erica Kane to have an abortion back when that was taboo.
I highly agree ! All the respect to Agnes Nixon. She should right a racy storyline for Tristan on one of the shows and make him eat his words, although I am a fan of his too.
oops right = write
Ms. Nixon insisted that different races and classes commingle in Llandview in the hopes of bridging those gaps. The Woloks, The Greys, and The Lords shared Llandview in a time in the 60’s when racism was a huge issue and the rich and the poor were far apart. Wait, those things hav sadly not changed! Ms. Nixon – we need you -STAT!
I agree with you. I feel Agnes was the first to move soaps forward. I feel Tristian insulted Agnes by making her sound too old to know whats going on in the world 2day. He might as well said”Move along Old Ma, your children are all grown now and this is 2013, we dont need your advice any longer.” These shows are her children, and no one knows their children better than the woman who gave birth to them. Maybe Robert Scorpio should b dropped from GH and replaced with a younger version to help move GH into the 21st… Read more »
Hey Jim! Very well said. Good story telling is an art. It is ageless. Can’t wait to see Ms. Nixon’s work. We will know by the heart and soul we will see in the stories!
Looking forward-
Patrick
Two characters we don’t seem to be hearing about are Jake Martin, who has been played by a number of actors through the years, and sexy Amanda Dillon. Will they still be in Pine Valley? Amanda is the daughter of the Late Trevor Dillon and the slightly crazy Janet from another Planet.
Chrishell Stause (Amanda Dillon) was leaving the show when the cancellations were announced. She stayed on board for the ending of the show – but I doubt she will work on the reboot.
I follow Chrishell on Twitter, and she’s already taken, but not at liberty to reveal details-I agree, though-while not essential, a recast Amanda Martin would be nice to have around
Well, thanks for the info. I don’t know how crucial her character is, but she is still married to Jake (isn’t she?) and was still married to him when the ABC-TV version ended. So, I would think that Jake Martin would somehow resurface, somehow…..
It sounds like neither Tristan Rogers nor the first poster here know anything about Agnes Nixon. Her soaps were never set in the 1950s land of Leave It to Beaver! One of OLTL’s first storylines back in 1968 involved a black woman trying to pass as white and AMC tackled several social issues before prime time did including abortion, but child abuse, wife beating, drug use and homosexuality. IMO, network interference was a large part of what killed her shows starting around the time Disney took over ABC when her soaps became less controversial and more generic. I’m very excited… Read more »
Bravo SteveS!!! Great Post I completely Agree!!!!! I would not bother talking to su0000 or Jim, I don’t believe they can hear ya way back in the 50’s!
Love AN, a true icon. And to everyone else who worked so hard to keep our soaps alive. Thank You! Having said that, I do think Tristan Rogers is right. We can’t go back to the 70s and 80s school of soaps except in terms of a writing structure and production model. AN may not be the future of soaps but I will say she can probably offer some valuable insight as to where they went wrong in the past. What I miss most about the golden age of soaps is the actual story telling and the bonding between family,… Read more »
I definitely think Agnes has no problem with racier story lines, edgier dialogue and moving online. I believe this will only add to her legacy, not detract from it. She has nothing to prove – she is doing this out of love of her stories and her fans. I agree with Crystal, knowing Agnes is involved in these shows makes me feel much better about them and their success. 🙂
I will watch…will you?
Well said-I don’t know how many of you follow sports at all, but think of it this way-Agnes is a first ballot Hall of Famer coming out of retirement to be the guardian angel over this project. The scuttlebutt says that she is VERY involved-so all the quibbling over whether she should be is meaningless, quite frankly
Good analogy Troy! (baseball & football watcher here) She is definitely a first ballot Hall of Famer! Hey…do we have something like that?…I think we need to start one!
hell Ya I can’t wait!!!!!
I agree that Agnes Nixon was not afraid to tackle issues that reg TV wouldn’t. It wasn’t her writing that was the problem it was ABC/Disney that wanted to make the shows a certain way. I love Tristan but it sounds like the excuse they used to get rid of AMC & OLTL. I am an older person and it was stated they didn’t care we watched they only wanted to reach the younger generation. It it wasn’t for my mom and grandma watching and us “older folks” watching there would be no younger generation watching. The bullying storyline on… Read more »
As an older person myself and I couldn’t agree more. But you have to keep in mind that in the 70s up until about the mid-eighties primetime was still mostly wholesome family variety shows and sitcoms. It was much easier for soaps to make a bold statement in that context and Agnes did it brilliantly. But there is a trick there. You have to break some eggs to make an omelet. I agree that the bullying story was very realistic at least at the start. It’s the sort of story where PP can and should excel. The strong writing actually… Read more »
BRAVO LINDA BRAVO!!!!!!!!!!! TAKE A BOW DEAR LADY YOU DESERVE IT!
Loved your comments Linda. If it wasnt for our generation many of the soaps wouldnt have lasted as long as they did and we r still around to support them. If they dont want us around maybe we should leave, then see how many of them will survive. A lot of the younger generation today have a lot of things to distract them from soaps that our generation never had but we r the ones who still stick around and support our soaps but instead of getting a simple thank you for our devotion we get a hard slap in… Read more »
Maybe one message soaps should send to all people is to respect their elders because if it wasnt for us where on earth do you think you would be?
Th only reason PP is touting that Agnes Nixon is involved is to appease the older fans of the show and to keep them from tearing apart their new, updated version. She’s just a figure head and I doubt has much power over any of the important decisions being made about the shows. I believe that PP will politely listen to what she has to say, nod their heads, and then do what they want – not saying that they won’t use any of her ideas, but let’s be realistic about who holds the power here.
Who holds the power?…apparently it’s US. The fans. 😉
Agnes should be there and its not to appease us old geezers. The only ones who could tear apart these shows is those behind the scenes such as the producers, writers ect. I havent read anywhere on these messages where a fan got blamed for whats happening on these shows. I wish i had that kind of control. Agnes is there because these shows are her children like ive said, and who knows their children better than the mother who gave birth to them.
I have to disagree with Tristan on this one. Agnes Nixon brought to TV a black woman passing for white, working class black and white families living side by side and being very close friends. She brought us the first Jewish family with front burner story lines. In Viki and Meredith, the wealthy Lords were friends with and respected the Wolecks, the Grays, the Siegels. And who could forget housewife hooker Karen Woleck. All those stories were on OLTL. I’m not that familiar with the AMC history but seem to remember the first daytime abortion and a story line involving… Read more »
I agree with you Llanviewer717, Having Agnes Nixon back on daytime is a good thing, I love that she will work side by side with the writers, She has the rights to have something to say about the soaps she created, and she is not afraid to tackle real life situations like you said. I say welcome back Agnes Nixon, I am One fan who is glad that you are bad where you belong with AMC and OLTL.
Aparently Tristian doesnt know Agnes Nixon.
See I agree.
maybe she’ll be a consultant? Somehow I don’t think of Agnes Nixon while AMC & OLTL are shooting a sexy photoshoot… and some writer said they could do “things” tv soaps can’t. That could mean several things!
Both statements can be true, Christy. Agnes is on board as a consultant, but as things have developed-she has shocked everyone with her degree of involvement. As for the photoshoots, etc-that’s PP’s doing. Both shows will be edgier, but as Jeff K said here in a column a few months back-they know there’s lines they can’t cross, internet or not. Everyone just needs to relax…
Rogers has miss spoke as far as the fans go. We have fought for one year to bring our beloved soaps back with Agnes Nixon. She is AMC & OLTL. If the writers don’t listen to her they are idiots but I’m counting on them to be very smart. I want to see my OLTL not another version. I want new but mixed with the old. Thanks Michael for this information. YEAH OLTL IS BACK!!
Most seem to believe that Agnes will have the power and the say, not true.. Agnes is there as a consultant of the past and characters etc She will not be writing nor have full creation of stories .. I’m sure she will be asked about many things concerning AMC and be shown great respect, but she is not a producer or writer.. Agnes is with PP but how much power will she have? What is her creative position? Theses are things we do not know .. Again, Agnes will be given great respect .. And the PP peoples are… Read more »
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