General Hospital
Denise Crosby Makes a Return to General Hospital
After a major fallout with her parents, Carolyn (Denise Crosby) and Jeff Webber (William R. Moses), Elizabeth (Rebecca Herbst) was devastated, in particular because they concocted a plan to make her forget all about the tragic situation earlier in her life. That being, when Finn’s (Michael Easton) late wife, Reiko, fell down a flight of steps and eventually died after she struggled with Liz.
Apparently, the story is not over, when Denise Crosby reprises her role of Carolyn beginning the week of January 23rd on General Hospital.
Talking about her return in the latest issue of Soap Opera Digest on newsstands now, Crosby previewed, “She (Carolyn) wants to make a connection with her daughter and try to make amends for something that is almost impossible to make amends for. She knows it could go really wrong, but she can’t live with herself if she doesn’t take the shot.”
Photo: ABC
Something tells us there is more to the story of why Carolyn could have returned to Port Charles? Any thoughts?
Let us know your theories about Elizabeth’s mother upcoming return to Port Charles in the comment section below.
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Just a thought… I can see why Liz’s parents wanted to keep the truth of Reiko a secret from her. “We wanted to protect you,” a standard excuse in every soap. And sometimes self serving to the protector. Like hiding adultery. And who knows how it would subconsciously haunt Liz years later. Just hope Carolyn and Jeff stay in Port Charles for more than a cup of coffee this time. Make it a real story.
Rumor here in Hell is that Nikolas is going to ask Carolyn to do to Esme what she did to Liz, and make her amnesia a permanent thing.
That could get interesting… if not so much because of Esme herself, but the fact that Esme is now a prisoner at Spring Ridge. I doubt Carolyn has met Heather yet, but surely Jeff has told her the entire story of his son’s psycho mother.
I am so confused, Satan. Who is Jeff’s son? And Heather is the mother? Whaaaat ??
I don’t know these people—-and Carolyn reminds me of this really mean nun in grade school.
Jeff & Heather had a son named “Steven Lars” in the late 70s. Named after his grandfathers, Steve Hardy & Lars Webber. Heather gave him away as a baby, and for a while he was living in Port Charles as the adopted son of Diana & Peter Taylor, who named him “Peter Jr.” (PJ) Things got really ugly (as they usually do when Heather’s involved) and before it was all over, both the Taylors would be dead, Peter of a heart attack, and Diana murdered by Heather’s mother Alice Grant (though Heather tried to frame Jeff’s girlfriend Anne Logan for… Read more »
Oh, WOW and Whoa!! I do follow your explanation–thank you so much, Satan, albeit this is the first time I have heard of these names, except for Steve Hardy—-that’s some history!! In my confusion, for a minute there, I thought Lizzie and Franco were related? Incest? LOL–Obviously, Jeff is not Franco’s father? . So, other than Ryan and Heather, Esme’s only relatives are Kevin and Steven Lars? Heather must have had Esme in her 50’s?
Thanks again—very helpful!!❤️
Franco/Frodd was supposedly Heather’s son with Scotty Baldwin. Though Heather & Scotty were briefly a couple during one of her less crazy periods in the early 80s, the only child that was ever around them was Baby Jason, who they took care of briefly after his birth mother Susan Moore (Heather’s cousin) was murdered.
So Frodd wasn’t related to Lizzie. But Steven Lars is related to both.
As convoluted as this is, I get it, Satan, and thanks again.—-I’ve been watching soaps since I was in diapers—I should be used to the drama by now—yet, the idea of these “buried” relatives who pop up here and there, still blows my mind.
Aside—So, Nina is not a match—too bad Wiley is too young to donate…. unless Nelle is not dead—Maybe she’ll pop up at the opportune time. How about Liesl??
Maybe the hope for Willow is closer than they realize…. thought it was strange that TJ mentioned something about “stem cells” the other day when discussing Willow’s impending treatments. A good source of stem cells is umbilical cords, so if Willow delivers her baby soon, she could actually be her own “donor”. I’m a Devil not a doctor, so I’ll be eternally damned if I know the effectiveness of stem cells vs bone marrow, but since they mentioned stem cells, that couldn’t have been a coincidence. Liesl might be a viable donor. I also think Joss should be tested. She’s… Read more »
I actually asked my husband about stem cells, Satan—if Wiley’s stem cell were preserved (we preserved mine), they could definitely avail themselves of those—or, as you so eloquently said, Willow can be her own donor. –By law, the legal age to be a donor is 18—but, it’s a soap–follows its own set of “laws”.
The odds of Wiley’s stem cells being preserved aren’t too good, considering Willow was not his birth mother, and he was literally born on the side of the road, after Psycho Nelle had rigged Michael’s car to crash. And then of course, he was swapped out for the dead baby… the one Willow actually gave birth to. And considering she gave that kid up for adoption (because he was the result of Shiloh rape) it’s not likely that preserving the umbilical cord/stem cells would have been an option there either.
Hey’ Satan—-I actually rethought what I wrote, after I posted—-I reminded myself of how Wiley’s birth went down. Just as you say, preserving his stem cells would have been impossible —
I just watched today’s episode, and unless “things” have drastically changed since I gave birth ( three C-sections), no one other than the medical crew is allowed in the operating room. I know, I know, it’s a soap!! I guess being a Quartermaine and Willow’s special circumstances , the “hospital” made an exception? LOL.
That neonate looked three months old—was it a doll?
That was very much a live baby… but sure as HELL not an 8 month preemie!! Even a full term newborn wouldn’t be that big.
Guess that’s good news… a very healthy baby coming from a mother with stage 4 leukemia. Probably don’t see that every day!
Now as for what happened after that…. I don’t know what Willow is seeing… but I can say for a fact that Harmony ain’t anywhere near Heaven!
Harmony was wearing black (and not white) in the “light” scene. Is Willow going to see Nelle and Shiloh too?
If it was truly heaven she’d envision Douglas (the never seen father who raised her). Couldn’t see her birth father, Silas because she’d wonder why he looks like Dr Finn (and ask him how such a minor character got 3 children).
Whoever’s there – just walk to the light Willow. Port Charles will be fine without you.
Nelle isn’t down here. We all know she’s not dead!
Giant preemie, Satan–LOL—and, her coloring is perfectly pink.
Willow is hemorrhaging? If the situation is so drastic, just perform a hysterectomy–Is her death a “fait accompli”?—-or will she be floating back to earth?
Harmony in heaven? When two Sundays come together. Even the writers’ dreams are warped!
I should be seeing you, Satan—horns and all within the fires of hell, cloven tongues of flames licking robes.
PS–correction–Satan, the last words ( my reply) should read “licking HER robes”. I must, also, add that I understand it’s a soap, ergo, we must accept what our eyes see–but are we stupid? I would have rather seen an animated doll ( which is very often used on CHICAGO MED and other medical eps) than a 3-6-months old baby cooing, arms flailing and smiling happily.—Sweet, little thing was ready to have a conversation. No neonate does that unless she/he is superhuman. Aside—the actress who plays Elizabeth’s mother? —well, her demeanor and face completely change when she smiles—we saw some emotion,… Read more »
That’s what I thought. Did Harmony really plan on taking Willow down there with her? Didn’t she wreck her life enough?
Strangely enough, Esme is distant cousins with Jake (Elizabeth’s son) as well as Danny and Scout. Heather and Jason & Drew’s birth mother (Susan Moore) were first cousins. Susan was murdered by Lila Quartermaine’s first husband.
DOUBLE WOW, OG Steve—thank you—I see. Susan Moore was Jason’s mother—not Monica. Learning more and more❤️.
Monica HATED Jason when he was a baby. After Susan was murdered, Alan obviously wanted to bring his son home, but Monica was having none of that. It was sad that she was blaming a little kid for the circumstances that brought him into the world. You can still find clips of this on YouTube
Really? Sainted Monica?
I will definitely check it out on YouTube, when I can’t fall asleep—LOL—I did catch a few eps with the Quartermaine Matriarch and Patriarch—-liked her so much—- thanks, Satan!!
Hi Celia! If you don’t mind, I will add my 2 cents: For a large part of her story, Monica was a scheming “bad girl,” particularly in her tussles (including physical) with the “sainted” Lesley Faulkner Webber. I guess my point is that no one is perfect — even in real life! 🙂 Best to you in the New Year!
Thank you, James—-I guess I shouldn’t be surprised how TPTB always manage to “baptize” baddies with that special holy water and save their collective souls. It’s happening right now with Esme.
Yeah, no one is perfect—-but I come pretty close—LOL.
Happy New Year to you, too, my friend❤️
Celia, thank you for your thoughtful reply! It’s always interesting when new writers decide to go in a different direction with a character. There’s one GH character who will always be a villain — and not in a good way — to me, no matter that he is temporarily paralyzed, becomes manic-depressive, deals with a parent with Alzheimer’s disease, loses children, and takes on a new name and accompanying persona. (I’m sure I’ve forgotten some of the ways “holy water” has been applied.) Take care, Friend!
Well said, James—sooner or later that “holy water” will run out …
Irony there is when AJ was born, there was a pretty good chance he might have been “RJ”. As in, Rick Webber Jr, as Monica had been having an affair with him at the time. Of course Monica & Rick had history before she ever met Alan. Oddly enough, she didn’t marry Rick, but she was married to his brother Jeff for a while. This is going way back in the Fuzzy Devil Memory, but I believe Rick was presumed “dead” at the time, as often happens in Port Charles. So that led to some unresolved feelings and two marriages… Read more »
My goodness, Satan—-of all people in PC, I would have never guessed Monica to have had such a jaded past—-I never pictured her to be such a busy bee!! Do you think that’s why she walks with that weird gait?
Sorry—couldn’t help myself, as naughty as I am—-sometimes I get the devil in me!!
I did read about Rick and Jeff—-
I am waiting for the other shoe to drop in Esme’s case—-something about her parentage is a wee bit off….. we shall see!!
Satan, I just want to give you kudos for your excellent recanting of GH history here! I watched every minute of it. I’m sure you know this, Satan, but I will add a few details regarding the actresses in these storylines. As I’ve mentioned, my favorite character of all time was Diana Taylor (as played by Valerie Starrett, 8 total years in the role). So she was playing Diana who, along with Peter (Craig Huebing), adopted Heather’s baby (at that time, the original Heather, Georganne LaPiere). It was quite a few years later when the truth came out about the… Read more »
James
You’ve got me thinking about the most recast roles in the 60 years of GH (not counting child performers or temporary substitutes. Is 4 the most? Help me out if I’m missing any:
We’ve had 4 actresses play:
Heather Webber
Carly Spencer
Dawn Winthrop (despite being on only 3 years)
3 performers have played:
AJ Quartermaine
Edward Quartermaine
Nikolas Cassadine
Maxie Jones
Notes:
Nick Stabile and Adam Huss were temporary fill-ins for Nikolas. Although they were on for a while, Jen Lilley and Molly Burnett were temporary fill-ins for Maxie. Elizabeth Taylor, Roseanne Barr and Sally Struthers were guest performers and not regularly appearing characters when they appeared.
Steve, thanks for your reply and for this excellent summary. I can’t think of anything to add. You have it covered well!
One actress I neglected to mention was Davey Davison who occasionally filled in for Valerie Starrett when she was out (for, e.g., surgery).
Before the internet age, of course, an announcement was made at the beginning of a show when there would be a replacement actor/actress (temporary or permanent). So generally, the viewer wouldn’t know until airtime when a change would be made. Take care, Friend!
As fuzzy as a Devil’s memory of those years are, I always did prefer the original Diana (Valerie Starrett) myself. But Robin Mattson will always be the definitive “Heather” to me.
Great to hear your thoughts, Satan. And I also have to agree with you regarding Robin Mattson. LaPiere was more of a novelty hire and didn’t stick around long. Apparently, Gloria Monty didn’t care for O’Brien who thus didn’t stick around long. But Mattson devoured the role of devilish Heather with delight — no offense! Best to you in the New Year!
What difference does it make? As soon as she arrives in town, Carly will integrate herself into the story and tell Liz that she’s her long-lost sister or something. Then Sonny will make Carolyn pregnant. NO story is told without Carly and Sonny being involved.
LOL! Thank you! I could not have said it better!!! Did you catch the video montage at Britt’s birthday party? There werr not one … But TWO pictures of Britt and Carly together! Now … Britt and Carly did not hate each other. They attained a level of mutual understanding after Jason died. But they were by no means close, or friends. They would certainly have never posed happily for picture(s) together smiling happily! I was literally waiting for the last picture in the montage to be of Britt and Sonny!! At that point I would have blown my stack!!… Read more »
JJ, I love your wonderful rant. Sing it, sister or brother! The problem with Carly never getting her comeuppance is that it’s pure and unadulterated bad storytelling ultimately leaving viewers unsatisfied. Even some Carly fans wanted to see their girl hurled downward; hoisted on her own petard so she could engage in real soul searching and self-reflection. Soaps have a history of doing this with their heroines who tend to give into their darker side. We certainly got this with Erica Kane, Dorian Lord and our own Ava Jerome. Without self- reflection, there is no growth and that is why… Read more »
JJ and Harry…And now it looks like Drew is forgiving Carly, or at least giving her another chance after withholding info, interfering with his investigation and lying. I am so sick of liars getting away with it…real time and soap time. And it also looks like Thomas on B&B will, too.
OMG, JJ—-Thank you so much!! I wasn’t aware of all this dirty “treasure” about Carly—-only a few tidbits. WOW—and some viewers declare Nina as the worst of the worse? She’s a little kitten in comparison. …seems to me Carly is loyal to no one ( as I’ve said previously) except her ego.
Oh Celia, I’m just now recovering. As if DiJack’s (DiGel would be more apropos) extended post-coital afterglow scenes weren’t bad enough this week, today we’re treated to Carly & Droop in the same situation. I think I even detected veiled references from the ever genteel Carly hinting at multiple, well, you know. How can they ban saccharine and yet let this junk on the screen? If I’d had access to smelling salts, I’d have used them. Carly’s counting up her peak experiences while Willow is dying. Way to prioritize!
OMG–Soaphound—I’m on my way to Smithtown West HS to watch my niece and cheerleading team do their “thing”—they won!!!!!! Now, trying to raise money for their trip—they’re going to National (Varsity) in Florida ( Disney) on the 8th ( so proud, I had to say that)–Anyway—just got out of the shower—in a hurry, but I had to read your comment because I sensed it was a good one as usual. And, you did not disappoint—Quadruple LOL. As women, we can go forever—but, men have their limitations, and you know what I mean—even when young!! So, to go at it like… Read more »
Whynot
You sure are way out in left field or la la land.
Hmmmm—-I don’t know—-isn’t this Carolyn person Elizabeth’s mother? Well, I’d say she’s well past menopause and child-bearing years. And, Sonny’s little swimmers are getting weaker and weaker as we speak, no?
Then again, miracles happen on soaps.
The mess with Liz, her parents, Finn and his late wife was so convoluted. As a long-time fan, Jeff was NEVER the type of guy as was portrayed this time around. Jeff had faults and weaknesses but he was basically a good guy. We never saw Carolyn so we have no idea about her. It’s safe to assume they weren’t “great” parent considering how messed up Liz is. Not to mention Jeff’s son (with Heather) is in prison. If Jeff & Carolyn coming to Port Charles means the writers are going to try to save this story, I’m all for… Read more »
It will be interesting to see where this visit leads. I missed a few days when Jeff and Carolyn were on and that ridiculous storyline was “wrapped”. (It was as though they knew they had a “stinker” on their hands and mercifully cut their losses.) I hope Elizabeth and Rebecca get a better story with the parents this time around.
This whole storyline is awful. This woman playing Elizabeth’s mother? Ugh. Not a fit AT ALL and neither was the father. They should have gotten Richard Dean Anderson back-wouldn’t that have been awesome??? (I think he is still alive?)
Anderson said on numerous occasions that he is retired from acting and would not handle the pace soaps are shot at these days. Billy Moses wasn’t the best choice for Jeff.
A bit younger, but I always thought Fiona Hutchinson would be great at Liz’s mom.
Omg. I was racking my brain for who would be a good mother for Elizabeth. Fiona would be perfect! Billy Moses! I didn’t even realize that was him til your post. The Falconcrest guy? Too many storylines on this show.
Gloria
This woman, Denise Crosby, old Bing’s granddaughter someone said a while back. Had never seen her before but she reminds me of one of those guards in a women’s prison., certainly not a motherly type is she?
She creeps me out!
Well of course…. she’s a Romulan!
Gloria
OMG, when she appeared at Nick’s door, SPOOKY, for sure.
Violet, yes, she is either reminiscent of guards from a women’s prison or Nurse Ratched from One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest.
Could we just let Elizabeth be happy for awhile? Could we just give her a healthy relationship for awhile?
RH has chemistry with every male co star she’s been with. FV needs to use that to his advantage.
She’s obviously coming back to make sure Esme doesn’t recover memories of Elizabeth aiding and abetting Nikolas keeping her captive.
All I know of her is Tasha Yar Star Trek reruns,
Anyways..this Liz story is a real snooze fest..there is nothing
What I like about it is all screen fodder..
One of GH empty stories, for sure..
Then again- Liz has always been boring imo
SuOOO
You are right on the mark!
OG Steve
Hopefully she’ll hold her ground but I’m afraid Nikolas will scare her by telling her that Liz will probably go to jail by helping him keep Esme prisoner and treating her pregnancy. He’s really a piece of crap, isn’t he?
Obviously she is going to play into Esme not remembering the past for good…..they already mentioned the fact recently about her doing that between Nicholas and Elizabeth last week…..not a fan of the actress playing her mother bad casting!
Wow, more depression for poor Elizabeth. Denise Crosby isn’t exactly a warm or likeable actress so I’m not looking forward to this, except for Rebecca’s typically excellent acting.
I am all for trying to salvage the Carolyn/Jeff Webber s/l. We know nothing of Carilyn, so I have no opinion yet on Denise Crosby. I was pleasantly surprised with Billy R Moses. Given what the writers wrote I thought he did a fine job. I don’t read much into the age of the actors much. It is up to the actors to make us believe. As is, Heather is likely played as 60 years of age to have a 20 year old daughter. Alley Mills is at least 10 years older.
One can get a headache trying to figure out ages on soaps. BTW – Mills is 71 and Mattson is 66.
Heather had to be in her late 40s (similar to Carly-Donna) when she gave birth to Esme. That means she must’ve been no older than 20 when she gave birth to an apparently de-SORASed Steven Lars with Franco not that long after (despite being seen on canvas until 1982-83.)
The writers could simply fix this by saying Esme is older than originally thought and was pretending to be the same age as Spencer et al.
“Let us know your theories about Elizabeth’s mother upcoming return to Port Charles in the comment section below”
By the comments below and based on this statement request…. It does make me wonder if there are no show writers any more and only fan theories
Satan…any thoughts on this
( I did mean this in sarcasm )
It’s not that there aren’t writers… it’s that most of the fans who post here have probably been watching GH longer than the current writers have, and that’s why the “fan theories” end up making more sense than what these writers actually come up with.
Thanks Satan. This makes lots of plausible sense. Myself, been a viewer since 1977 due to the good old Sony Betamax. Much easier today just streaming later in the evening.
Often wonder about Nurse Annie Logan, and still have the 1981 Afternoon Delights lp (vinyl) with their song “General Hospi-tale” It is posted on YouTube for those who might want to give it a listen.
Yeah, they pretty much forgot Ann Logan ever existed. Since we knew nothing about Elizabeth’s mother until literally just a few months ago, I had previously imagined a scenario where Jeff Webber found Anne somewhere off screen and that was who he ended up marrying and having kids with. From my fuzzy Devil memory, I think she would have resembled Elizabeth a lot more than Denise Crosby does.
Of course that all went out the window when they wrote this current story. Ann Logan would have never wiped her own child’s memory, even “for her own good”.
Supposedly when Bobbie returned to PC around 2012 there was mention that she and Noah Drake broke up when he reunited with Anne (who she still referred to as “the virgin”.
In my early GH watching days I thought Anne was rather lackluster. I did, however, like her portrayer, Susan Pratt as Barbara on AMC.
Satan…I agree with you. Hard to write for a generation the writers weren’t part of. And sometimes hard for some fans to be interested in the newer, younger actor’s stories which they can’t relate to. Or accept them as possible new, future legacy characters because some families are dwindling.
I was hoping they’d let this poorly written story just die a quiet death. It would be great to give Lizzy a great story that would allow her to show her acting chops but this ain’t it.
Horrible casting ! You know Becky is a twenty something veteran of this show she deserves better! And stop the crap Frank you are a joke Roger has been how many characters and Easton how many! Darling they are not worth this crap
Anna Tristan genie and on are the soul of this show it is not one life to live !! They got cancelled deal with it!
General Hospital
Marcus Coloma On His GH Exit: “I Don’t Know Why That Decision Was Made, But I Don’t Feel Any ill Will and I Didn’t Feel I Got Fired”
General Hospital
Adam Huss Back to GH as Nikolas Cassadine
With Marcus Coloma’s last appearance as Nikolas Cassadine on last week’s January 26th episode of General Hospital, the soap opera brought back Adam Huss to finish out the dark prince’s storyline.
According to Soaps.com. Huss aired today on the January 31st episode of the ABC daytime drama series and will finish out the scenes that were written to be portrayed by Coloma.
Adam previously subbed for Coloma back in September 2021 and again in November 2022.
Courtesy/ABC
After it was announced that Coloma was leaving GH, the network and the series agreed that it would be best that Marcus did come in to tape his last episodes since he was recovering from Covid-19 at the time. Thus, we are seeing those episodes featuring Huss now airing in early February.
So, glad to see Adam back to wrap Nikolas’ current storyline? Share your thoughts in the comment section below.
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