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GENERAL HOSPITAL: Ava and Nina Come Face to Face! Maura West & Michelle Stafford Make The Clash Must-See TV!

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For those who have been anxiously awaiting the first encounter between Daytime Emmy winning powerhouses, Maura West (Ava) and Michelle Stafford (Nina) in their roles as Ava Jerome and Nina Clay on General Hospital, today’s episode of the ABC soap opera held the long-awaited moment!

The set-up has Ava run into a “wheelchair” bound Nina, which sets up the repartee and the realization for Ava that this is Nina Clay who she is chatting with.   Nina lays into Ava about the photos of her having sex with her husband Silas (Michael Easton), and then becoming pregnant with his child, Kiki (Kristen Alderson)!  Ava then offers her brand of an apology for her actions many years ago, and as more verbal blows and insults are hurled at one another, Nina brings up Ava’s current paternity pickle, and then goes into her baby obsession mode, and even puts her hand on Ava’s tummy, much to the dismay of Ava.  And that is just a few of the highlights of their clash!

Kudos to the incredible Maura West and Michelle Stafford!  Having those two in a scene where they play mortal enemies was simply soap heaven for many a soap fan! And major kudos to the GH writing team for the snappy, treacherous, yet at times humorous dialog fit for these two talents to play.

Watch the clips of Ava and Nina coming face to face after the jump! Then let us know what you thought of the first on-screen scenes shared by Maura West and Michelle Stafford on GH!

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Tsuds
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Tsuds

great show today.. Action packed! Best Daytime Soap on TV!!!

su0000
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su0000

wow!

GH is explosive!

TNT //// DYNAMITE <– AVA //// NINA !!

jimh(leave it to beaver)
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jimh(leave it to beaver)

suOOOO had to reply here:YOUR WRONG!!! Ava will not loose the baby…Nina plans to kidnap the child and pass him or her off as her own…even if Ava’s already been preggers for several months Nina WILL work it out and pass off the child as hers and Silas’s!!!

jimh(leave it to beaver)
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jimh(leave it to beaver)

Kiki is Nina’s…lol

CeeCee
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CeeCee

I actually expected the confrontation to be more explosive. But, Nina’s calm demeanor and subtlety spoke volumes. Well done, Ladies. I mentioned on an earlier post that it seemed as though Nina made icy cold references to Kiki. I felt the undercurrent….and, I think so did Ava. It was all so creepy…Michelle brought that scene home, ….they were both good…well executed…..WOW !!! This is the first step towards ” un fait-accompli”, in Nina’s revenge-seeking mind. I must also add that all you women out there know how awkward it is when a stranger touches your pregnant belly. Why do people… Read more »

Rose
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Rose

I agree. Great acting because it was subtle. It really left a chill in the air as to where these two ladies will take their plans.

jimh(leave it to beaver)
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jimh(leave it to beaver)

Me thinks Nina will have Rosalee kidnap Ava’s baby from the hospital after its born for revenge…Madelyn may have (or have not…Kiki will eventually be revealed as Ninas child like i said many threads ago?) caused Nina to loose her baby but Nina will blame Ava for setting everything in motion…and now that Sabrina believes Ava is behind the car accident that caused Sab to loose her baby, Sabrina will be mistaken for Rosalee by a witness paid by Nina and Sab will be accused of stealing Ava’s baby and hiding the child somewhere…Ava will put a hit out on… Read more »

jimh(leave it to beaver)
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jimh(leave it to beaver)

Back in the mid 70s to early 80s, my late mother was stopped in stores by strangers( on 5 different occasions over those years mentioned) and asked when is her due date…my mother was obviously annoyed by the question but she remained polite and replied, “I’m not pregnant! I’m just FAT!”…lol…she did have weight problems in that area…lol…then when we were in the car she’d joke about it, saying something like ‘if she was pregnant it would be a lot longer than some of the soap opera pregnancies she had been watching lately’…i think one was like ten to twelve… Read more »

dmr
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dmr

That’s what I think makes Nina so creepy, that she is able to remain calm while being ice cold. I’m hoping Nina will “off” Kiki. No further explanation needed. I can’t stand Kiki. Waste of air-time. The character brings no purpose or value to the show.

jimh(leave it to beaver)
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jimh(leave it to beaver)

Forgot to add: i like to think that if Kiki is Nina’s but Silas isnt the father…i like to believe Nina was desperate for a child so she could hold onto Silas…but Silas was having some difficulty in the sack…afraid she would loose him, Nina had herself artificially inseminated with an unknown donor who eventually turns out to be Franco!!!

su0000
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su0000

Sorry ..
You are all wrong..
Ava will lose the baby, it will not be born, thanks to Nina..
Nina will drug ava as her mother drugged her and therefore she will lose the baby..
Kiki is not Nina’s baby … that will not be ..

anything concerning Nina’s baby, will have to do with Madalin, Nina’s mother who most likely will have the now 23yr old boy/girl ..

Patrick
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Patrick

@SuOOOO

say it isn’t so…. I’d cry tears of a river and then

if Ava lost her “child”

thanks for the drama tho

it does entice

there will be a way for these two women of magnitude to persevere

and get their own… and dalliance forward

to steer Kiki .. god knows why… but… it’ll help Nina big time
and Ava… will render humane motherly… and I’ll cry a river

and it’ll be a standstill of magnitude proportions

Nina : Ava : Skye : I wish the latter

ALL combustion

Patrick
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Patrick

@cee cee

your 2nd para : spot on

I can’t imagine… the awkward… near volatile… a motherly protection… unwarranted

unheeded… danged right…

it’s my child

grrrr

jimh(leave it to beaver)
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jimh(leave it to beaver)

Foolish Nina…wants a baby and revenge against Ava…she’ll get both by stealing Ava’s baby…but Ava will sort of get the last laugh…with help from Madeline, Ava has taken Nina’s thought dead daughter Kiki and raised her as her own…when Nina learns the truth she wont mind at all…Nina doesnt want boring, annoying Kiki and tells Ava she can keep her…guess Nina is the one who will actually have the last laugh…lol

CeeCee
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CeeCee

Hmmm; I don’t know about that Jimh. You don’t think Nina’s maternal instincts will kick in? Hard to believe since we have seen a softer side of her when talking about babies. Then again, she’s nuts, so she’s hard to read since her moods change with the wind. And, I suppose there are many mothers who feel no love for their child…stone cold . We will see if Nina is indeed a sociopath.

jimh(leave it to beaver)
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jimh(leave it to beaver)

I actually really think Nina will accept Kiki as her daughter and poison Kiki’s mind against Ava but Ava truly loves Kiki and will be devasted…but all that will be revealed after Nina has Rosalee kidnap Ava’s baby or she’ll have someone kidnap Ava until the baby is born and then steal the baby? Maybe with Franco’s help?

Mark
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Mark

Michelle stafford is so talented it’s like she is on the verge of hysteria. Love her! Maura west is not my cup of tea but she is ok.

Timmm
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Timmm

I agree with you Mark.

harry
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harry

Mark: I watched for about 5 minutes today. Nina is Phyllis–I am starting to see Michelle Stafford as a one note actress. But Maura West? I am finally understanding why so many laud her acting prowess. I only saw a small scene involving a small character, that would be Sappy. Maura pretty much chewed Sappy up and then spit her up. Then Ava motioned her head to signal to her bodyguards that they needed to exit. Okay, I get it, Maura West is damned talented. I think I could grow to love her and wanted more. Give this woman some… Read more »

Elizabeth
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Elizabeth

Many, many posters on multiple other message boards are right there with you. The Nina show is getting massive complaints. Of course that won’t lead to changes because of the contract that was signed, but it isn’t doing much for the ratings at least if the third week in August (loss of 99,000 viewers in one week) is any indication. As a former GH fan I have all but stopped watching over the last few weeks and am much more interested in my first soap interest, DOOL. MUCH better writing, pacing, romantic elements, story interconnections, the whole ball of wax… Read more »

sandra
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sandra

I agree Maura West makes this show. She is the female Trevor St. John. Amazing actors. I have just started watching GH because all my soaps are off the air. Whereas I love the writing and twist and turns( best writing in daytime of all soaps) I have to say GH has too many murderers. Sonny really needs to serve some time in jail for once. Let him play his part from inside a jail cell. Also, there is no stable ,sane, port in the storm,anchor family. GH should add a family like this just to add some balance. I… Read more »

Shay
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Shay

Harry….Can we talk???? (Wink and a teardrop…..) Why is it that you and I seem to be the only ones who notice these highly bizarre acting choices (or involuntary tics….take your pick….) of “Snippy the Avenging Stalker?” I’ve never understood the “SP’s” strange dramatic affectations from Day One, and since then they’ve only served to exponentially increase in usage and annoyance. Added to the neophyte nurse’s newly-adopted attitude as a gobby upstart, they make this already insufferable and insipid creature even more unbearable. As if these flummoxing flourishes are going to turn her into daytime’s answer to Revenge’s Emily Thorne!… Read more »

Mike
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Mike

Nina wants a baby. Maybe she’ll help herself to Ava’s.

Fanny
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Fanny

Mike ,UR so right.

su0000
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su0000

Ohh my gawd!!
Emmy winning powerhouses, Maura West (Ava) and Michelle Stafford!!
It doesn’t get any better then the 2 Queens of Awesome facing off!!
EXCITING!!!!
Thank you Soap Gawds for sending Maura West (Ava) and Michelle Stafford(Nina) and Billy Miller(Jason) to General Hospital !!!!!

GH is by far the #1 soap …… to hell with numbers 🙂

(also– waiting for Billy Miller to intrigue us all!! (and he will!

Timmm
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Timmm

To think, all three used to be on Y&R! Thank you Y&R!

Patrick
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Patrick

LOL

to hell with numbers

Days should be celebrated too

I’ll champagne GH

w/DAYS

dmr
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dmr

I absolutely loved the calm, yet quietly explosive scenes between Maura West and Michelle Stafford. I absolutely adore Maura as Ava. Michelle, I’ve had to warm up to. I think that Nina’s and Silas’ scenes come off as awkward. However, Michelle was incredible during her scenes with Maura. I love how she can be creepy and secretive while keeping her cool. One thing, can we please just write-off the character of Kiki Jerome. The character is useless. No job. No skills. She’s a mooch. Not to mention, she’s put into randomn scenes and she is just annoying. Whenever she told… Read more »

Phil
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Phil

Michelle did great. ..I actually enjoyed her for a change…I still get the feeling that Kiki is actually Nina’s daughter!

jimh(leave it to beaver)
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jimh(leave it to beaver)

That confrontation scene between Ava and Nina was a better GH moment…need more of that…i also expected a more explosive moment…like the one on Dark Shadows between Angelique and Laura during the 1897 storyline which was my all time favorite confrontation moment between two of my all time favorite villianeses…GH was still good!!!

aria
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aria

1897 ? omg are you comparing and old show no longer on the air to a current scene? most of us are not 100 yo .

jimh(leave it to beaver)
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jimh(leave it to beaver)

You dont have to be 100, Aria…DS has been repeated, available on vhs and dvd, and on youtube so even a 2 year old couldv’e have seen it…lol…the show originally aired in the 1960s and did a time travel set in 1897 and followed the lives of the Collins family ancestors…Angelique and Laura were enemies and had very well written confrontation scene…i wont go into details but it…imo…was one of the best moments in the history of the show…GHs scene between Ava and Nina was very entertaining moment which reminded me of past confrontation scenes of other soaps…wasnt necessarily a… Read more »

Daisy
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Daisy

Wonderful scene! Wonderful actresses!

Patrick
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Patrick

A celebratory moment

Shay
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Shay

Well, Cartini has managed to do the absolutely unthinkable for me….make me root for Ava! Since her debut on the show, I have been wholly unimpressed with this brazen hussy of a hit woman…her aggressively declasse’ antics and appallingly gleeful appetite for violence just left me cold, although that is not to say that MW did not display a certain aptitude for portraying this treacherous, blood-thirsty tramp…..she simply was not to my taste for a leading lady to view on a near-daily basis. But all that changed yesterday with the foreshadowed challenges Ms. Jerome is obviously going to be battling… Read more »

harry
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Well, said, Shay. Nina and Ava? I hope they cannibalize each other.
And as for “Snippy”? That’s like Bambi vs Godzilla. I wonder if the powers that be understand everyone is rooting for Ava over Snippy.

Patrick
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Patrick

LOL

“… I hope they cannibalize each other. ”

I love this stuff

Shay
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Shay

Thanks, Harry!!! I’m only pulling for “Team Ava” because she has the proper skill set to put those other nuisances out of their misery, and that for me, is the ultimate goal! Whatever transpires after the fact to the “Hoity-Toity Hit Lady” matters none to me….I truly hope she eventually gets her just desserts for her part in AJ’s downfall and demise. But first “Cruella De Jerome” has her work cut out for her! Frankly, I was quite disappointed by her uncharacteristically subdued, almost sympathetic, reaction to the mouthy mouse’s major hissy fit during the “When Snippy Met Snotty” scene….(I… Read more »

Elizabeth
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Elizabeth

I was thinking the very same thing! I hope that both Nina and Ava are gone by the time this thing plays out. Just hope it doesn’t take too long.

jimh(leave it to beaver)
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jimh(leave it to beaver)

I too wrote above about a possible baby kidnapping…me thinks Nina will have Rosallee…disguised as Sabrina…kidnap the Ava offspring from GH and a witness paid by Nina will claim he or she had seen Sabrina with the baby…Ava will put a hit out on Sabrina but Sonny protects Saps after learning she is his daughter!!!

Dan
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Dan

Just wanna say I love the name Cartini, sounds like a drink you might order sitting on the beach in Miami, lol. “Waiter, bring me a Cartini on the rocks!!” 🙂 Shay, you bring up a lot of interesting points. Personally, I’m enjoying the hell out of both Maura West and Michelle Stafford’s performances. They’re old school campy, over the top soap, and I love it. Some people aren’t a fan of the camp, I’m all for it. They’re what soap operas are supposed to be. These first scenes between Ava and Nina felt like appetizer for a big meal… Read more »

CeeCee
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CeeCee

The literal meaning of “Cartini” is; ‘ little cards’ ….. Cute.

Shay
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Shay

Dan….I totally adore camp when it is delicious and well done….witness Dr. O. (et al….) and her outrageous escapades!!! I am simply not feeling the “Phyllina” love of her ardent followers from Y&R. To me, MS’s repetitive repertoire of affectations, i.e., repeating things for emphasis, the constant gesticulating and most especially, the smug, self-satisfied smiling that can barely be contained, are completely predictable, and thus, boring. So placing her with another scene-stealing diva’s orbit with her own set of trademark moves and grooves (with which we have become so familiar) really didn’t personally make for great drama, as far as… Read more »

Patrick
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Patrick

Hello Shay

I don’t think it necessary to … at this site …. elevate persons….

but.. there comes a time… when it’s time to standout

I simply adore … your command of the FUN delight delish imaginative “word”

“… But all that changed yesterday with the foreshadowed challenges Ms. Jerome is obviously going to be battling in the foreseeable future. ”

YES

and i hope the same, for Nina… Michelle Stafford

I can’t diss a post that … all our… that want the best of the remaining 4

that being said….

this 5th serial

commands…. stimulates our mindset

Cheers

fan salute

keep on

read

I look forward with

rebecca1
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rebecca1

I loved the dance between Nina and Ava. Even though I’ve expressed my dislike for Nina’s caricature-ish ways…I can’t take my eyes off her. She’s just so….creepy! And yet, she’s deliciously sarcastic, biting…and I love that part of her! “If you want to touch the baby, you need to ask.” (Ava) “Can I touch it?” (Nina) “No.” (Ava) Totally paraphrasing; can’t remember it verbatim but too funny! Loving their “duel.” As for Sabrina…you go, girl! Even though she’s blaming the wrong person, I’m glad to see her mama bear come out. I don’t have to root for her against Ava,… Read more »

Shay
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Shay

@Patrick….A most sincere thanks for your gracious, generous comments! They are particularly meaningful coming from you because your “words” were some of the first I encountered upon discovering MFSoaps, and since then, I’ve continued to find your unique writing style and obvious love of “words” to be a delightful and intriguing treat to behold. It never ceases to amaze me how many well-versed individuals visit here to express their thoughts, each in their own special way….I believe it makes all of us better communicators and expands our own writing capabilities and talents….we learn from each other!!!! : )

missellie
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missellie

Sorry but I am really tired of seeing Nina just about every day on GH.

Timmm
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Timmm

Yeah but its better than seeing Sean, T.J., Jordan, Felix, Brad, James, “The Tin Man”, Levi, Lucy, and Kiki!

jimh(leave it to beaver)
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jimh(leave it to beaver)

Soooooo true…lol

dmr
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dmr

I completely agree. I can’t stand the scenes between Brad and Lucas. I do like the scenes between Brad and Britt, though. Levi-time to go. Kiki-ugh, I hate the random scenes the character is put into. The actress can’t hold a major storyline herself, so she is put in such random scenes-UGH-like when she overhead Carly and Sonny talking about their one-nighter. I thought, “great, now I am going to have to see this dumb character even more…”

rebecca1
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rebecca1

Love Kristen Alderson who played Star on OLTL…now Kiki. She has a very realistic girlish yet mature persona…in both shows. She’s young and fun…yet seems to have an old soul and just an all-around wise, compassionate character. Nothing dumb about her.

rebecca1
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rebecca1

And by the way, Kristen is more than capable of carrying a story…she emanates authenticity and range.

soapbaby
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soapbaby

Like much of the show these days, I was unimpressed. Michelle Stafford’s performances as Nina have been off-putting. Something just doesn’t work for me. Also, MS is not able to elevate the poor writing of the character. Maura West on the other hand, makes her every scene, “must-watch-TV.” She acts circles around her scene partners. As far as dueling soap divas, DAYS has been delivering on that front for a while now. On any given day, you get Ali Sweeney, Lauren Koslow, Kate Mansi, Arianne Zucker, Jen Lilley, Melissa Reeves, Kassie DePaiva, Eileen Davidson or Deidre Hall volleying fantastic, bitchy,… Read more »

Timmm
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Timmm

I think Nina and Ava are gold! I do see your point about the writing and how GH used to have interesting “Sub” stories to go along with front burner action stories.

aria
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aria

your clearly a dool fan so whats your point in giving you opinion on GH? in my opinion Michele Stafford and Maura West run circle around all those Dool women you mentioned above, maybe one in the bunch is a heavy hitter but the others are all wannabe!

soapbaby
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soapbaby

@ aria: I can posit my opinion where I see fit and if you do not like it, please feel free to skip my posts.

I am a fan of daytime soap operas and view all remaining 4. Having a critical opinion is not a bad thing. There is no denying Maura West’s considerable talent being able to elevate the dialogue but the storytelling is not as strong as it could be. Right now, DAYS has better overall story and particularly for its female characters.

That’s my point.

CeeCee
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CeeCee

Right on, Aria. The way Nina and Ava were circling and sizing each other up should be a prized soap moment. From day one I have said Kiki was Nina’s . There are still some unbelievers…lol. Then, when I suggested Nina somehow taking Ava’s baby or steal an embryo, or be artificially inseminated, I was pooh-poohed. We all have personal opinions, each one being very feasible. But, to insinuate that Michelle Stafford brings nothing to this show but insanity…well, that’s insane. Lol…Take a look around at all these other characters. Is there anyone among them that holds our interest more?…whether… Read more »

Patrick
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Patrick

for all the shenanigans : high jinx : uproar : falacy : LOL OK GH rises

DAYS is my comfort… I watch with nary an opinion… my mind floats… dreams… salivates… continues for more

GH triggers… I go there

Days of OUR Lives…. courts

I’m rested sigh of relief my show is on…

Salem’ite

su0000
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su0000

lol
General hospital is not for everyone..<——
It is out of the the traditional soap box..
When all is wrong and nothing is right with GH then GH is not for that person..
Open minded peoples with a sense of humor who '''get it'' are the true fans//
GH is not like the other soaps nor is meant to be like them, thank the gawds!!

RC and team, FV and the extraordinary actors of GH are the best of best.. 🙂

Fanny
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Fanny

I agree,agree agree,agree!!!

Elizabeth
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Elizabeth

GH is so far beyond what it ever has been that it is just awful. Yes, it has always had story lines that have required a suspension of belief… but this is just so bad it is embarrassing on behalf of ABC. Victor being the cartoon mastermind of Peter Harrell Jr. stealing the Aztec jewels? SO amateur. Like Victor could care about two Aztec family pieces. And to have gone to all that trouble to kidnap Lulu? Seriously – when she goes to Wyndemere probably twice a week? They may as well change the name of the soap to “wet… Read more »

jimh(leave it to beaver)
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jimh(leave it to beaver)

Victor…me thinks he kidnapped her for the returning Stravos!!!

dmr
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dmr

soapbaby: I think that DOOL’s characters and storylines are much more balanced that GH. I think because DOOL has a smaller cast-full of veteran actors. For the past few years, DOOL has gone back to its roots-focusing on the veteran actors and core families. Unfortunately, GH is overly staffed with useless recurring characters. Unfortunately, I don’t think the 3 OLTL actors are really cutting it. As much as I love Roger Howarth, I wish that he came back as a different character, not Franco. I don’t care much for Silas. & Kiki, well Kiki-UGH-really annoying.

soapbaby
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soapbaby

dmr: I agree with you. I championed the former OLTL showrunners when they moved to GH and enjoyed the first year and 1/2. I forgave a lot of missteps because the show was reinvigirated. I think Todd Manning and John McBain worked very well on GH but the headwriter working overtime to shoehorn three completely unnecessary characters in Silas, Kiki and Franco (Franco was even reviled when played by James Franco!) and adding even more new and poorly written/acted characters. The show has no focus or soul and all over the place. A prime example is Liesl Olbrecht. While Kathleen… Read more »

soapbaby
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soapbaby

Ohh, and Kiki IS.THE.WORST.

sandra
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sandra

I try to watch DOOL but their actors are so bad. Its like DOOL stand on the street corner to hire actors. I don;t know how many story lines DOOL has going at one time but I know Bold and the Beautiful has 2, Y&R has maybe 2 coherent story lines. GH on the other hand seems as though they have 10 different story lines going at all times, I love it

Timmm
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Timmm

These are two titans of daytime. You tell me today where you would get this much talent, scene for scene, on a prime time TV show? GH fans are so lucky!

Shay
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Shay

Downton Abbey!!!!…..Enough said, Timmm!

jimh(leave it to beaver)
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jimh(leave it to beaver)

And my Coronation Street…what a great soap with the best acting and character driven stories about working middle class families and everday life…love Downtown Abbey and the classic Upstairs Downstairs…wish the British were producing and writing for our soaps!!!

MBmomof3
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Timmm, I agree that GH fans are very lucky. For me, even the actors who need a bit more “seasoning” seem to be doing much better. They all seem to take their craft seriously and work hard on giving their best performance. Not many scenes being “phoned in” these days. JMO.

Elizabeth
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Elizabeth

If GH fans are so lucky why are there so many complaints across the message boards? GH fans want to see GH characters in compelling and integrated stories. There is much resentment that each of these titans (along with the OLTL 3) simply came on and have taken turns completely eating the show. Did you notice the most recent ratings? The story went from a kidnapping at a wedding to a full week of Nina’s histrionics and the result was that 99,000 people didn’t bother to watch. That doesn’t sound like viewers who consider themselves lucky.

rebecca1
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rebecca1

Well I’m one fan who feels that way. I’m glad GH is still on the air…I’m glad a lot of the characters I love are back…though disappointed they’re not on more…I’m glad that the “OLTL 3” are also present…I see no difference in them being cast then an actor I’d never seen before. And when they WERE cast…I was thrilled…as were many OLTL fans who had these actors in their “guilty pleasure” lives and then abruptly didn’t. I assume it’s the same for Y&R fans who like certain actors that are no longer with that show. I don’t feel resentment… Read more »

Timmm
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Timmm

Those are all good point. I cite Ava and Nina’s scene in the hospital. It was compelling. I realize most think that actors just memorize lines and hopefully they are well written but you also have to make the audience believe what is written. These two ladies are gold.

mfarris70
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mfarris70

This clash of the titans was so worth the wait. Emmy-worthy for both the actresses and the writers. #slutshaming

I feel like the suspects are starting to line up to steal Ava’s baby. And we’ve noticed that Nina and Kiki have the same hair color. This wouldn’t be the first time that two women who don’t like each other discover that they’re mother and daughter, but maybe this is a red herring. I can’t imagine how Ava would have given birth to Nina’s child without knowing it, but if Victor Cassadine is involved then all bets are off.

su0000
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su0000

Ava will lose the baby, it will not be born, thanks to Nina..
Nina will drug ava as her mother drugged her and therefore she will lose the baby..
Kiki is not Nina’s baby …

anything concerning Nina’s baby, will have to do with Madalin, Nina’s mother who most likely will have the now 23yr old boy/girl .. Perhaps she carried the baby to term and while in her coma gave birth, it happens in real life, so…..??

I am luvin this story and the 2 ladies are giving us a stellar performance!!

jimh(leave it to beaver)
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jimh(leave it to beaver)

Ava will have the baby…Nina is planning on kidnapping the child…you will see im right and you will have to apologize to me…kidding..no apology…lol…but you’ll see that we are right…lol

su0000
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su0000

OK, jimh..
I will bet you a beer, heh 3 beers, that I am going to be right!
You will need to fly to Mn. to deliver my beers but ya have to do it .. 🙂

again ;;
”Nina will drug Ava as her mother drugged her and therefore Ava will lose the baby..
Kiki is not Nina’s baby …”

CeeCee
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CeeCee

Om, su000! Did I actually guess you are from Minnesota? Good for me! Lol. I just knew by the way you express yourself. I love it.

CeeCee
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CeeCee

Ava did not give birth to Kiki. Madeline took Nina’s baby and gave her to Ava , who was very much in love with Silas. Madeline paid Ava an exorbitant amount of money to raise the baby. Ava fell instantly in love with the baby, with or without the money. That is what I have always thought. Granted, I am probably wrong, but it could have happened this way.
GH is the bomb right now, otherwise we would not take this subject thus far. We have been talking about it since Nina’s name was first mentioned.

jimh(leave it to beaver)
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jimh(leave it to beaver)

You are not wrong if i agree with you…lol…Nina and Kiki(same number of letters in their name even…ok, she is really Lauren…lol) ARE mommy and daughter!!!

mfarris70
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mfarris70

Yes, this theory has been discussed before but I have one problem with it. Why did Ava lie and tell everyone that Franco, a mass murderer, was the father? She said before that it was because she thought Silas did kill Nina. But Silas’ name was on the birth certificate and Ava stayed in New York, so it seems like a rather weak plan to keep Silas away from his child. Plus, I can’t imagine a young Ava the party girl wanting someone else’s baby– she’s barely maternal as it is. If this is the story it will need further… Read more »

Mary SF
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Mary SF

It seems reasonable. It always confused me why Ava lied about Kiki’s paternity claiming Franco was the father. It didn’t make sense if she loved Silas so much one would think she would be thrilled to tell him she was carrying his child. But this way, it may have been part of the deal that she made with Madeline. Nina was in a coma, Madeline didn’t want the child and no way she would tell Silas about it, perhaps she offered the child to Ava or sold her the child, as long as she promised never to tell Silas he… Read more »

CeeCee
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CeeCee

Thanks for the vote of confidence, jimh…I always stand by your wise input. You are a sage. Really.
Bye.

rebecca1
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rebecca1

I agree with your theory Mary SF; thought the same thing. Madeleine didn’t want Silas to have any part of her money…and by having a child with Nina he would either inherit or be given power over the child’s money. I agree she gave Kiki to Ava…under the condition that Silas never find out. As for Franco, since she slept with him as well it would seem to him and everyone else plausible. Poor Kiki. If this theory is true she not only had to adjust to Franco not being her father, but now Ava not being her bio mom.… Read more »

shrona
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shrona

Though I didn’t watch either of these actresses on their former soaps, I was well aware of their reputations and this meeting was as great as I expected. Nina’s icy calm was much more frightening than if she yelled and screamed. You could tell that, underneath her snappy replies, Ava was unnerved. I agree with Michael- kudos to Maura and Michelle!

William Hall
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William Hall

I resound that scene several times. It was perfect in so many ways. Crazy respecting Crazy. I want more!

Mary SF
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Mary SF

Saw these two powerful actresses work together on Y&R. On that show Phyllis and Diane Jenkins were evenly matched so when they were in a scene together the sparks did fly. On this show, Nina although emotionally damaged and filled with anger, she comes across to me very childlike– and that really came across in their scenes yesterday. I got the feeling if Ava wanted to she could squash Nina in New York minute, but at the moment she got bigger fish to fry. Of course that could be Ava’s downfall, underestimating Nina’s brand of crazy, so it will be… Read more »

su0000
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su0000

I see this coming, for the two..
Ava will lose the baby, it will not be born, thanks to Nina..
Nina will drug Ava as her mother drugged her and therefore Ava will lose her baby the same way Nina lost her baby.. (tit_for_ tat)
Nina’s justice..

And then all that’s when all goes BOOM!!
there will be rage and revenge and Nina will have to deal with Sonny and Morgan for killing their baby….

and— Kiki is not Nina’s baby … 🙂

k/kay
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k/kay

Do we really need another baby storyline?

Patrick
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Patrick

what a fun post to forward these two women

I hope they find an even keel

a leverage of sorts for two to combust

how can it get any bigger for writers to del

aria
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aria

it was fun watching them go at it, they had me hanging on every word, and rewinding back to see it again. hope theres more to come.

jimh(leave it to beaver)
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jimh(leave it to beaver)

It was the best of GH!!!

k/kay
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k/kay

The only question I have about this scene is whose bright idea was it to put this two women in such HORRID clothes. The wardrobe department should be ashamed.

CeeCee
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CeeCee

Ava’s wardrobe has always left something to be desired , as it were. Her clothes look like they have been put together by a mad scientist.
However, after much thought, I believe that Nina’s clothes must reflect the subdued appearance she is trying to impress upon everyone. The butterfly will emerge and spread her colorful wings. Can’t wait for the transformation ….Nina’s got the goods.

Rodd
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Rodd

Loved it! See? This is what great acting and soap writing are all about; a classic example. Kudos to all involved!

jeremy
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jeremy

This was Explosive, WOW!!! Nice job to maura and michelle for this Entertaing confrontation, you had me at the edge of my seat lol 🙂 Even, my mother was beyond excited!! 🙂 Go GH loving you more.. 🙂

west virgina fan
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west virgina fan

damn….ladies, I mean damn…. Michelle stafford is having a lot more fun than she has had for years on y&r. Ava can take on anybody, but Nina may be a real match (sonny is too wimpy, and she just mows through everyone else…however, heather, nina and ava having a crazy diva off could be fun so long as they let heather be smart funny and not slapstick blt bring more of these ladies on….however, I would have liked to have seen ava or nina with connie (not wimpy kate but connie in full blown on the warpath). not seen this… Read more »

k/kay
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k/kay

Where is Anna? The heart and soul of GH! First you had OLTL actors invading GH now it is Y&R actors invading GH. What gives?

jimh(leave it to beaver)
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jimh(leave it to beaver)

And where is Duke?

Elizabeth
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Elizabeth

Exactly. Why do we need to resort to tired baby and WTD storylines in place of police/spy mysteries (well done ones, which I guess is an excessively formidable challenge under this regime). The LAST thing I want to see is one shrew going after another and then turning around to do the same thing all over again with two more shrews…. that wasn’t EVER the soul of GH. The closest thing to that on this show was Laura and Bobbie, and even they cared about one another and closed ranks when push came to shove. I much prefer that.

Patrick
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Patrick

” damn….ladies, I mean damn…. ”

applause

mk
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mk

Their Characters hated each other on Y and R too.

sandie
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sandie

I admit it was a good scene,,,,, , BUT,,, MW is pure gold,,, MS on the other hand is just not ,, in my opinion,, worthy to stand beside MW. Yes,, MS plays the crazy nut bag, , but,, she leaves me just cringing.She can go anytime!!! If Nina steals the baby,, Ava will have her head on a platter,,, Nina has NO idea what and whom she is messing with,,, ,Ava,,,will be a momma dog with rabies and Sonny wiil explode!!! Right along with Julian messing with his neice or nephew!!!! I cant wait to see them all come… Read more »

CeeCee
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CeeCee

Julian could care less about his unborn niece/nephew. He really does not cate much for Ava…he would sell her to the devil for 30 dinars. These actresses are equally committed to their craft. This so-telling and ominous scene would have been worthless without either of them. Michelle and Maura made the scene what it was. Each character carried the other. So, please do not assume that this storyline could go forward without Stafford. I will admit that West can hold her own…as I said earlier, she is as a refined actress as Stafford….but, it was Michelle who held tenure on… Read more »

jimh(leave it to beaver)
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jimh(leave it to beaver)

I believe Julian does care about the baby…especially if the child really is Sonnys child or grandchild…sneaky Julian will use the baby to his advantage against Sonny…imo!!!

CeeCee
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CeeCee

I guess, jimh. But the story takes a different face , if that is the case. Julian would care not out of love but for his own devilish schemes.

GH-er
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GH-er

Totally team Ava in this battle. I love GH but Nina is just no fun at all to watch. She’s boring and inane and reptilian and she is on screen ALLLLL the time. Total snoozefest.

Kaffen
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Kaffen

This is news how…..MOVE ON….AIN’T NOTHING TO SEE..THEY ARE OLDER STARS..TRYING TO GET A FRESH LOOK….YARN………………

rebecca1
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rebecca1

What exactly does that mean they are “older” stars…sounds kinda ageist. Was that your intent?

CeeCee
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CeeCee

That is a very offensive and tactless remark.

Timmm
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Timmm

Jeanne Cooper was an “Old” star and Y&R fans miss her EVERYDAY!

sandie
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sandie

I will give credit when credit is due,,,, oh,, by the way, ,,, This is General Hospital,,,, NOT Young and the Restless

CeeCee
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CeeCee

Some remarks are best left unanswered. I do not bother with antagonists.

Alan
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Alan

“May I touch your baby?”

Best line ever.

MBmomof3
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MBmomof3

I thought their scene was very entertaining. GH really has an amazing cast. I’m looking forward to see what happens next in Port Charles! Lots of great storylines happening right now.

Justice for AJ!

CeeCee
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CeeCee

I beg to disagree, dmr. The reason you cannot allow yourself to measure Kiki’s talent is because you ‘hate’ her…..your words, not mine. She does what she is directed to do. I am not much older than she and when she was on OLTL, I identified with her on so many levels. Why? …..because of her excellent acting. Her best moments on that show were with Roger Howarth/Todd Manning , who played her father. Now, we can still see the connection she has with him, as Franco. That is rare. As I previously stated, once Kiki is given a storyline… Read more »

Marjore Manford
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Marjore Manford

Kristen Alderson is a very talent young woman is not her fault Kiki is ill defined and ill conceived. Kiki severs no real purposes besides being one of Ronnie’s many pet character’s. Kiki has been on 2 years now and she has not been given any depth,direction or purpose.

CeeCee
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CeeCee

I have never found Stafford boring. Au contraire, she is FANTASTIQUE!!!
Inane? How is a woman with a mental disorder silly?
And, last time I looked, she bore no resemblance to a snake. Lol.

pam
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pam

I am wondering if Ava may have had a still born birth and Nina’s mom Madeline may have switched Nina’s baby with Ava’s. So Kiki maybe Nina’s & Silas’s with only Madeline knowing the truth.

Kayla
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Kayla

Is this a spin off form the loving I tough Ava was a chacter. Form loving not genrel hospital in loving Ava was in. A coma and Alex played by randolph Mantooth was there and was emotal and. Then had a child latter on .

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ABC Previews General Hospital’s Halloween Episode

Fight Night will definitely have an impact on the lives of the citizens of Port Charles, on the upcoming Thursday, October 29th episode of the ABC daytime drama series.

Announced by ABC today, along with primetime’s Dancing with the Stars, The Conners, Supermarket Sweep, and America’s Funniest Home Videos, GH is having some ghoulish goings-on for the trick or treat holiday.

According to the GH preview: “As an impending storm approaches Port Charles, Trina and Joss decide to meet up with Cameron and Dev at Charlies before heading off to a Halloween party for the night. Unbeknownst to them, Julian notices the kids are being watched a little too closely by a masked individual. Uneasy and unable to shake the feeling that something is off, Julian confronts the man. Meanwhile, Carly is stunned when Cyrus brings a familiar acquaintance to dinner at the Metro Court. And elsewhere, Finn and Anna’s plans to take Violet trick-or-treating are hampered when Finn is called back to GH, leaving Anna alone, unaware that a particularly evil threat awaits her.”

So, excited to see what goes down on Halloween on GH? Comment below.

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GH’s Ingo Rademacher Shares Insight With His Son On Parenting & Anger On Maurice Benard’s “State of Mind”

Maurice Benard has brought his State of Mind  to You Tube, and his guest for this week is none other than Sonny Corinthos’ longtime nemesis Jasper Jacks, Ingo Rademacher.

Rademacher decided to appear on State of Mind along with his son, Peanut, to talk about the incidents of parenting and anger when raising his children, and the effects discipline can have on the kids.

There are some very emotional moments within the segment, as Peanut opens up about his feelings when his dad was upset with him and how he dealt with  it

Ingo also shares how over the past few years his relationship with his son has approved, while Maurice offers key moments from his past with his father and his own son.

Per Maurice on the concept behind the show and his ongoing website: “State of Mind to me means being 100% present, feeling completely at peace inside of you, not letting your thoughts control your life and always looking for ways to be the best that you can be.”

Watch Ingo, Maurice and Peanut below and then let us know what you thought about this heartfelt conversation via the comment section below.

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Gregory Harrison Is The New Gregory Chase On General Hospital

General Hospital just got hotter as it beef’s up its storyline featuring Kim Delaney as Jackie Templeton.  Now comes word that TV veteran, Gregory Harrison has come to the ABC daytime drama series as the recast Gregory Chase.

The character of Gregory Chase was previously played by DAYS James Read, who plays the treacherous Clyde Weston now and then on the NBC soap.

With Harrison taking on the role of Finn (Michael Easton) and Chase’s (Josh Swickard) father, that makes things a little juicier in the romantic department.

According to EW.com who broke the casting news, Harrison begins taping today Wednesday at the ABC studios for General Hospital and fans can look forward to his debut on-screen in a few weeks.

As to the storyline: “Fireworks could be on the horizon for Harrison’s character.”

TV fans remember Gregory from the hit series Trapper John M.D., then later on Falcon Crest, Judging Amy, One Tree Hill and more.  He also has frequently appeared in Lifetime and Hallmark Channel movies most recently.

So, what do you think about the Gregory Chase recast with Gregory Harrison? Intrigued? Comment below.

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