Thats what we teach our young today…just hop in the bed with whoever you want…no love, no romance, no worry about sexually transmitted diseases or aids…times have changed-for the worse!!!

Same here Susan…my families dont take their teens to r rated movies so theyr not going to watch r rated soaps together. if the tone it down just a tad to a more acceptable pg13 maybe they would watch together…some people 4get thats how soaps got more people to watch…people with their children…these types of shows need the next generation to continue into the future.

ITA–Soap operas are not supposed to be about the real world. Another World use to begin with the saying ” we do not live in this world alone, but in thousand other worlds.” And when asked what that meant the creator of this soap said it represented the difference between ” the world of events we live in and the world of feelings and dreams we strive for.”
This lady knew soaps– it is about provoking emotion, letting us explore our feelings in fictional stories. We should laugh, cry, swoon and fume, and when the show is over we click off whatever device we are watching and go back to our real lives, feeling emotionally satisfied.
And for me that trouble with scenes like this one there is no emotion. I would like my emotions aroused not my genitals and that is why it is border line porn. But I could even over look graphic nature of it, if I actually was emotionally invested in these characters and their relationship- but soaps, not just this one, have forgotten about romance.
Romance allows us to get emotionally connected to the characters. Love scenes used to be about making love, now it is about hooking up. Soap writers treat us like we are children and we have to see what is going on to know, but the reason love stories used to work so well on soaps in the old days is they actually had them fall in love before sex and then when the sex came, they let us fill in the blank, which was ultimately a lot more emotionally satisfying and powerful that anything any writer or actor could show me. The world of fantasy.
And was the point of watching to have my emotions turned on by using my imagination to get sweep away — to live for hour in another world.

RIP — Another Word– fourteen years ago you were cancelled, but not forgotten.

Mary SF thanks 4 reply…i wish more people would see it that way…i so agree with you 100%. Having to see everything now (like we dont have brains to know whats happening) is just as bad as spoilers…it takes away the suspense and fun of using our imagination.

Yes you are all right, they need more diverse characters if they’re so interested in bringing the storylines into the 21st Century.

They need to do a story involving a Bisexual Eskimo.

Are there really bisexual eskimos, Johnny? Are there gay eskimos? i dont even recall any coming out of the closet…that sure would be a soap opera first…a bisexual eskimo…by the way do igloos even have closets?

Before or after he raped her?

Jovin, i was talking about types of scenes id like to see…i prefer romance over sex scenes and especially NOT rape!

I think it’s important to remember that the key to longevity with soaps (as opposed to other popular dramas that fade away after 5-10 years of going strong when their audience “graduates” from them, including every primetime drama ever…) is that “we” traditionally have NOT “all” been adults. We’ve been kids as young as 9 or 10 not even understanding 100% of what we were seeing (because it wasn’t too graphic) sitting watching with parents, babysitters, older siblings, nanies, and grandparents and growing into passionate viewers ourselves, who later will help pass it down to their children. When a show is “not for children” (and BJs, kids saying profanity to their parents faces, and too much profanity in general are not things parents voluntarily sit down to watch with their kids, no matter how “real” it is) then it’s not multi-generational. And it’s the multi-generational, adults and older teens getting kids hooked at a young age, aspect of soaps that is why the most successful soaps are on for 40, 50, 60+ years at a time. I have no doubt that AMC can get buzz with scenes like this (or OLTL’s onscreen drug use) and get a lot of heat the way primetimes shows like NYPD BLUE and SCANDAL do (and both are great shows). But even the edgiest, best, “hottest” primetime shows in this situation fade away in 10 or so years whilst soaps carry on with a new group sharing with a new group. That’s what you miss when you make soaps more profane, more explicit, or more vulgar–they becomes shows that moms love, but wait to watch until after their kids have gone to bed, ESPECIALLY when they are Web shows and especially when they are only once a week, instead of being shows that Moms watch with their kids and bond over.

I agree somewhat, because I do remember when Y&R first came on the scene it was considered pretty racy in comparison to the more traditional soaps of the day, like Guiding Light. As Y&R became popular with the younger set, which I was at the time, late teens, others soaps started adopted its more racy topics.

However, Y&R was a brand new soap, it had no former fan base to adhere to, it could break convention at the time without too much fuss. If this scene had happened on a new web soap, not based on a what a former soap I don’t think it or even the swearing would have stirred the pot. But when you got a former fan base that wants to pass their beloved soap to their daughters and sons, it becomes hard to do when said soap is almost a completely different product

I know PP did a good thing but saving these soaps, but they have to decide which audience they want– the more traditional soap fan base, or be like Y&R in its day and capture a whole new group and bring them on board. I think they tried to pleased both groups with mixed results.