Hayden begged Ric to sleep with her after Jake turned his back on her in bed.
She tells Ric that she has needs and has a healthy sexual appetite.
Um…..I do not mean to be vulgar but aren’t there battery operated gadgets which could help Hayden scratch that itch?

Lol harry! I dont like this character at all. Wasnt a fan of hers on amc either.

I agree. they looked hot together! Valerie could basically be paired with any of the men on the show!

VANTE are meant for each other….boy, I really was not impressed by Valerie’s washed-out acting today. ….so forcefully forced. I hope she claims the character and exploits it to the limit. I do like her, but her story needs to be so authentic and riveting, that my head will spin . At the same time, a story that we can all relate to….what was her life like growing up; her education; her family life ; did her mother talk about her childhood?; her siblings?; where is her father? Etc.

@jimh….Oh, it’s “ninny,” indeed! How much more inconsequential can this vacant shell of a character become? I am so Sappy-ed out, it’s not even funny anymore! Just seeing that lunatic nurse holding and pushing Avery around in her stroller makes me see red! That baby is such a precious little angel and she has two completely idiotic, ineffectual human beings looking after her….by comparison, Sonny seems like “Superdaddy!” I am so hoping this sophomoric storyline is soon tied up….how much more stupidity must we be subjected to with these subpar players and plot? P.S. By the way, did you see my “Phantom” reference to Spencer on the previous post, or was it simply a matter of great minds thinking alike????? Lol…..

Suoo, I forgive you for all of your trespasses for mentioning Tad the Cad.
That actually cheered me up.
Thank you.

Evolving into what, Su? Lol. Super sex-fiends? It’s not real! Actually, many of them are digressing into Neanderthals….just kidding, su.
I know all about ‘Tad, the Cad’. In the end? He was left with a bitter taste in his mouth. He too, had had father issues and as weird as they come, mother. Soooooo, you must love to watch those wallowing in dysfunction, yes? ‘Gotta’ love you, Girl. I really love, love, love reading your posts. What extravaganza ….you fill my plate with it…..later.

Awwwww, Iakovos…..just when I was going to tell so many cute stories about my own baby-girl…Lol.
I love baby storylines. But, they have to be happy and healthy babies. No deaths, no fighting over custody, parents getting along….just joy all around. Not soap-worthy? Lol. We need fodder, right?
So, I agree, in that respect, babies should be kept out of soaps. Something tragic always happes to or around them. Sad!!
By the by, Iakovos? Pardon my curiosity…..Does your name translate to Jacob? I am a linguist, a history buff, English Lit. buff, and I love deciphering the derivation of names.

I should have been more clear, CeeCee. I am just tired of stolen embryos (ripped from the womb!?!?!), doubted paternity, and switches on stormy nights. Y&R seems to do OK allowing Cane and Lily’s twins to grow normally, although they botched Kyle with the SORAS. Seems in recent years the ideas of romance, marriage, and parenting are not taken as seriously in storytelling. Too easy, too quick, no shame or no fear. All done for convenience more than good plotting.

Iakovos is Greek for Jacob. I am a James and That name is akin to Jacob. All part of my Greek heritage of which I am proud.

And so you should be proud of your heritage, Iakovos. The Greeks and Romans transformed the world ….whether it be architecture, inventions, or philosophy etc.
I know that Giacomo ( very similar to Iakovos) is Italian for James. So, I suspected your name translated to Jacob/James.

You are right, of course. I am not sure if you watch Days, but Kristen did exactly that….ripped Theresa’s baby out of her womb and had it implanted in her own. Yes, it is very disturbing….in the world we live in…not so far-fetched.
Actually, something similar was done on AMC. Erica’s embryo was taken from her womb, supposedly decades ago. So, Days and GH are not the first. It is sickening, I agree.
Believe me, my grandmother paints such a beauteous picture …all the days of yore, where soaps were simple and relatable. She makes long for yesteryear…..a period that is decades before my time. She’s an enthralling storyteller.
And, when I ask her about the revolutionary 60’s? She says, those were the best years of her life….LOL. SHOCKING!!!! LOL.

You’re right, Su. Wow!!!!!!!! Nik and Hayden were hot….not that we saw much…but, the implication was loud and clear…good stuff…you bet, girl.

Exactly, jimh. Too many whys, where Nik is concerned. By all of your accounts and other posters, I am to assume that Nik is acting out of character. I am still willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for that reason. He is working with Sloane for the greater good. Perhaps his wanting ELQ is a front for something more….whatever it may be. Otherwise, everyone has been fooled by Nik’s double facade all this time? Is that possible?
I also agree with you about bed-hopping, especially having just met. Then again, that’s
something personal. I would have to be in love with whomever I get intimate.
Thus, perhaps, they are using each other….or, they are so ferociously and sexually attracted to each other, they can’t help themselves? As I said, I like these two together…if not Britt, then a Hayden-type-woman, as the Mythological siren, Lorelei, will do. I really think they will be hot as a couple….very exciting. I usually FF ‘love’ scenes, but, I think I shall watch this one….I am intrigued. Lordy, Lord….I am so glad it isn’t Cameron Mathison with whom Rebecca is wresting in the sheets. Ugh!!

jimh..
Helena said the Cassadines lost a lot of their fortune..
They need ELQ ..
Nichols has the Cassadine DNA.. he can be the good bad guy ..
I feel a Cassadine Quartermain power play would be very intriguing=DYNAMITE!

I like Nik now, he is becoming interesting.. hot sexy and Cassidiny! (finally ….
Nik and Elizabeth were horribly dull..
Mother Elizabeth is not a good character to be paired with too lackluster lol
Hayden and Nik <—-''good stuff'' !!

So true, CeeCee….She’s probably thinking why am I stuck in the care of these two utter, complete morons who spend more time in this bar rather than luxuriating in my beautiful, plush nursery that my mafia don daddy and his skankgster ex-wife put together for me at his house? Say what you will, but that little girl was well-looked after at Chez Corinthos, and was probably in the best possible place until Ava, Silas or even Delia could arrange a permanent situation for her. I just hope this custody nonsense is over soon….it’s excruciating to watch the antics of those halfwits Mikey, Sappy, Kiki and Morgan….none has the right stuff to be in charge of an infant!

p.s. : thanks JimH for remembering Britta

every one else in Port Charles (LOL) got a ticket out of jail

course, i’m still vigilante for Ava

and i’m still on the fence with : will it be Silas or Sonny who cares for lady/tigeress Ava

I agree with U CeeCee, that is the Cutest and sweetest baby.
Now let’s talk the PROMO with Michael, he loses it !!! In more
ways than one, we all know he will not retain custody of Avery,
his Crazy out of control behavior will take care of that matter.
Thanks in part to Morgan & KiKi’s “MESSING with him”.
I dare say ( hoping U don’t all HATE on me 4 saying this ) Michael has
brought a lot of this on himself… Too be tabled 4 now, & picked apart later on.
BLOW # 2 he’ll most probably lose ELQ to the BIG BOYS, Nik is leader of
the pack.
That’s where the show picks up momentum again,the ins and outs, dips
& turns of soap OPERA drama.

Fanny…Michael didn’t bring anything upon himself. People pulled crap on him…and he reacted. I believe his motivation for wanting Avery/AJ was twofold…both to protect her from Sonny’s gangsta life…he himself victimized over and over because odpf it..and to pay back every wrong committed by Sonny to his bio dad, AJ.

Sabrina did not take the baby to some seedy bar,,,the metro court is an upscale hotel, restaurant…and Michael had no intention of getting drunk. He was doing a business lunch, as an adult, having a drink…and he was not currently taking care of the baby. He got out of control only because he was drugged by Morgan and Kiki…I see, unfortunately, history repeating itself if he becomes victimized like AJ Q was.

Sabrina is great in her current position. Loyal, caring, protective over the baby and Michael’s voice of reason.

@Shay.
Hi Shay.
On the contrary, no one in his/her right mind would disagree with you. I would have been very happy if Kiki had fought for custody and won. But, not this flighty Kiki. It should have been a Kiki en par with Kristen…mature and with her head screwed on right.
However, Avery does not belong with Sonny, albeit he is her father…biology means nothing in this case. He is not worthy.
Michael winning custody was dumb from the get-go. Again, the writers ‘screwed up’, in my opinion. And yes, he succumbed to his rage and angst and lost control.
I despise Kiki and Morgan for doing this. It is wrong and vicious.
Furthermore I hate the idea of pitting brother against brother…..as I have said in the past. Enough of Cain and Abel. Be original, stop emulating the Bible.. I guess all roads lead to Rome AND the Bible….LOL. Later, girl.

Well, CeeCee, sadly, for that sweet little girl, she lost the parent sweepstakes on both counts. Despite Ava’s fierce lioness instincts and noble selflessness which emerged during her pregnancy and subsequent ill-timed delivery, she is not a fit mother in the strictest sense of the word, either. Sonny and she are two sides of the same Cosa Nostra coin….so what to do, what to do? Allow nurture over nature to prevail, and deny both blood parents their own offspring? I concur “old Kiki” was a suitable (temporary) choice for custody of Avery, particularly with Silas in her corner to oversee things….it worked. But this nuKiki creature is another game altogether….she’s a complete nightmare and it’s rubbing off on Morgan, as well. Having said that, I did enjoy their little takedown game today, because something must be done to get that cute dumpling out of the hands of Mikey and his nutter nanny….I simply cannot abide watching those two self-righteous idiots parading around that child who has been reduced to nothing more than a pawn in the Quartermaine heir’s sick thirst for revenge. Just another key example of a really badly executed and ridiculous storyline (with Sappy featured again, no less…..)……wonder how the show runners will worm their way out of this one? More musical paternity revisionism? Only time will tell, but I hope for yet another reversal of this failed custody course, and soon!

@Shay.
I do agree to a certain extent, Shay. That is, Avery (do not like to call her AJ) ought not to be with either of her parents. One could argue that Kiki turned out fine being reared by Ava……yes, oldKiki….sadly the Jerome imprint is manifesting itself in the present Kiki, albeit I noticed a tell-tale of compassion for Michael yesterday; and, possibly regret.

I know you hold a great antipathy for Sabrina ( and Nina), but she is a good person. Her heart is in the right place ….she would never hurt the baby. She had a breakdown….very common , not only after giving birth(post partum depression), but also after losing a child. This is fiction, of course, but I do adhere to the fact that fiction, is based on reality.
I never tried hurting anyone or go into much of a depression or ‘lose’ it ( I have a very strong will and healthy mind and body), but when I lost my boy, I went to hell and back.
So, I have forgiven Sabrina for that momentary ‘out-of-touch’ with reality.
Moreover, Sabrina is exactly what Michael needs right now. She is his guide when he can’t see….she will keep him grounded. I would rather see Sabrina take care of the baby than this Kiki turned criminal; especially because her mother hated Sonny, and Kiki knows it. Kiki and Morgan, at this point are going down the same path of destruction and a life of crime, as their parents…Ava and Sonny.
Yes, Michael is not squeaky clean by any means. What he did was underhanded. However, Morgan paying the waitress to spike his brother’s drink with Kiki as an accomplice is far worse. When everything comes to light, even Sonny will be raging mad with Morgan……which brings me to this conclusion. It all stems from The Great Sonny…..the Don Corleone ‘wanna’ be!!

@Patrick.
Hey, Patrick….I haven’t forgotten Britt either; not by a longshot!

@Patrick….Count me in as another Britt fan who terribly misses her presence….GH really has not been the same without her! I do especially pine for those Drs. Obrecht-Westbourne mother-daughter scenes!

Yeah, Jimh. That’s what I’ve been saying. It could all be a put-on by Nik and Sloane. Perhaps they are trying to deflect something bigger than we know or think. Worth the wait.

Don’t think so, jimh…I still think Nic, at his core, is good..but he’s definitely keeping Jason’s identity a secret for selfish reasons…to steal ELQ. Pretty difficult to fathom he’d keep such life altering information to himself, and the fallout will be huge.

He certainly seems to have more personality than old Jason…he even smiles. And I think Steve B is finally settling into a decent storyline on Y&R.

su0000, I like your take on Jake vs Jason! I think most fans would agree… 🙂

I agree with you , Su. But, it is vital for Jake to remember who he is. Too many doors are left open….anyone could walk in and out at his expense…..as we have already seen by Rick’s and Hayden’s behavior.
Let’s just hope that when he comes out of his ‘stupor’, Jake will emerge as Jason Q. Later.

Rebecca1…agree with your comments about Michael not bringing his current predicament on all by himself. And I’m really not liking how Morgan and Kiki are setting him up. To help along someone with possible alcoholic tendencies is evil. I also like Sabrina, always have. Maybe she’s not or flashy as the other’s in her demo, but she seems more solid, loyal, kind, studied hard to become a nurse, and actually held down a job. More than I can say for some of the others. And she seems okay as a nanny for AJ and confidante for Michael. As the story progresses I hope everyone will chill and have some access to AJ.

Hi Rose…ya, I’m glad they’re keeping Sabrina. She really is such a solid, grounded character…truly a good heart. I think she looks great…less eye makeup, back in shape…and she has a calming presence. I actually think she’d be a great match for Michael. He needs a good, honest person in his corner.

As for baby AJ, I don’t see the battle over her ending any time soon. If Michael ever finds out Morgan drugged him, their brotherly love will be a distant memory. I truly want Michael to remain a Q, but I do fear they’re trying to duplicate history when Carly sabotaged AJ so he’d lose the fight to gain access to Michael. And then there’s Ava…can’t count her out yet…

P.S. We have not seen the Jake imposter lately. I doubt very much he will forget to collect more of the blackmail money. Also, when all Rick’s schemes come to a halt, what will happen to Hayden. The actress/character has not been well received by many. Personally, I hope there will be a loophole somehow, and, she will stay.

Correction…first sentence in the post before should read……”I don’t think anyone on any soap IS aware…”, NOT ‘are’….

Outnumbered? Perhaps, CeeCee….but at least you are in fine company with those of us who remain as skeptical as yourself on the so-called Luke “reveal.” Even with TG’s considerable talents, this tawdry tale is truly headed nowhere, and the addition of the ill-cast newbie playing the angry and aggressive Valerie isn’t helping matters at all. Today’s episode was just more blah, blah, blah….it’s as if the show runners want to keep rubbing their selective sleight of hand storytelling in our faces. I’m pretty much done hoping for otherwise. Time to move on, indeed…..As for Liz, I totally agree that she needn’t constantly be defined by a man, yet her character is written as compelled to do just that, whether the beau in question is one worthy of her attentions…or not. It is tedious, and especially so where Ric is concerned…he is a complete snake and nothing will ever change that. I also see him as rather demonic in appearance…..nothing terribly attractive there from my perspective, just more of the same old, same old …cannot wait for him to leave. (I liked him much better dead…LOL.) Hence, until Jake is “freed up” from that “faux sa femme,” Nurse Webber should cool her misdirected ardor, curl up and read a good book.

@jimh…..Cannot disagree with you, particularly about Ninannoy…great moniker! Just please tell me she isn’t going to traipse off with that sweet little angel…again! It’s making me crazy how all of these so-called adults are playing “musical baby” with Avery. In the end, Silas and Delia need to have some sort of care arrangement for her, because they are the only responsible, mature people in this whole scenario…..and who woulda ever thunk that Mrs. Coleridge would be described as such? Just goes to show how bad the other parental/guardian choices are in this custodial mess! As for “Phyllina.” yes, she needs to go back to her comatose state….it’s the only manner in which to ever make her bearable! P.S. We certainly do think alike in a lot of ways….as with the “mini-Phantom” Spencer! As soon as I saw him that “Music of the Night” idea popped into my head…..boy, do I hope Dr. O. is part of that spectacular! She would be magnificent!

I agree, I don’t like characters becoming saints either when they started off as baddies. By redeem, I mean in the sense that even though the character has done bad things, there is still that hint of good in them and they aren’t truly evil. Characters like Helena, Stavros, Faison, etc. will never be redeemed, but characters like Hayden who aren’t evil still can be bad, but have that hint of good that makes you root for them still.