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The Daniel Goddard Interview – The Young and the Restless

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Happy Valentine’s Day from On-Air On-Soaps!  And who better to celebrate this romantic of all holidays with then The Young and the Restless resident heartthrob, Daniel Goddard!  Today his alter-ego, Genoa City’s Cane Ashby, gets set to walk down the aisle in what the number one daytime drama is promising to be a beautiful heartfelt and stirring ceremony to his beloved Lily, played by Christel Khalil.

After so many twists and turns including: Cane being shot “dead” in front of the church steps, an evil twin, Lily thinking she is going bonkers, Cane’s bizarre family background being revealed, constant familial interference, a possible Danny Romalotti and Lily romantic re-teaming, (and that’s just for starters), the invincible couple known lovingly to its fans as LANE will finally have their special day.

To preview the wedding drama and what’s next for Cane, we had the opportunity to speak to one of our favorite gents in the business, Mr. Daniel Goddard.  So, what makes Cane and Lily the couple to root for?  How did Daniel feel about the road it took for these two lovers to find there way back to each other?  How does he feel about Cane’s relationship now with Genevieve and working with the legendary Genie Francis?  And how should men treat their wives on Valentine’s Day?  Find out when you read our very special interview with Daniel on this double occasion, Valentine’s Day, and the second wedding of Cane and Lily!

MICHAEL:

Are you excited about the pay-off for long time LANE fans?  Finally, they get to see their favorite duo get hitched … again!

DANIEL:

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I am really excited about the whole wedding.  I am excited about the storyline and that it is a two episode arc.  Viewers found out on yesterday’s episode about the gift from Katherine that Cane and Lily will be heading off to France for their nuptials, and today’s air show is the first episode of the two-part wedding.  Today is actually a big day in general!  I am also doing The Price is Right for Valentine’s Day, and then Christel Khalil and I are doing The Talk live!

MICHAEL:

Cane and Lily have had everything but the kitchen sink thrown at them over the course of the last few years.  Do you like how the story has played out?  Do you think their relationship has finally come full-circle?

DANIEL:

I think it’s come full circle and I think this is being done well.  Certainly, Cane and Lily have had a lot of ups and downs.  I think through all of that, the fans have stayed true and they have expressed their desire for what they want to see.  I think a wedding of this caliber will make the fans very, very happy and that is what this is about.

MICHAEL:

Where did you film the wedding episodes?  I know you did not go to France!

DANIEL:

We shot the wedding at Greystone which is in Los Angeles. It’s a huge estate and mansion which was chosen to look like France.  And to be honest with you, it’s such a wonderful location that you would never know it isn’t France!  The full crew was there so we had a great lavish look to it and it was a great production.  It’s going to be wonderful.

MICHAEL:

So when you and Christel say the wedding vows as Cane and Lily, are they different this time out in their feeling and delivery?  Fans love great heartfelt wedding vows between two long suffering star-crossed lovers, you know?

DANIEL:

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Yes.  The vows this time are different because the last wedding had more of the, “I will always love you” type of vows.  This one is our second wedding and so the vows are more about having fun and understanding where they have been and understanding what they have gone through.  Basically it has the sentiment of, “Let’s make sure we never have to go through that again, and let’s have fun.”  It has a great light-hearted feel to the whole thing.

MICHAEL:

Daniel, you had the beginnings of such meaty story when Cane’s mother, Genevieve was added to the mix. Then it seemed like all of a sudden that whole story got wiped out pretty quickly.  Will we finally see Cane and Genevieve dealing with their feelings for each other as mother and son?

DANIEL:

I think it’s come full circle between Cane and Genevieve now.  Genevieve coming to town and using Cane in sort of a puppet master kind of way to have her desires to get back at Colin fulfilled is over with,  and where does that leave Cane and Genevieve’s relationship?  The next stage is about to be delved into.  Cane has gotten this job offer from Ashley and Jabot, and of course, we will end up seeing the trials and tribulations on how that affects his relationship with his mother, while she works at “Beauty of Nature.”  So it’s good stuff.  It has some legs.

MICHAEL:

How has it been working with soap icon Genie Francis (Genevieve)?

DANIEL:

It’s great.  What is interesting about Y&R is that everybody has different relationships with each other on the show, and I think that comes across on camera.  So, my relationship with Jess Walton (Jill) is very different than my relationship with Genie.  And what is wonderful about that is that we all have a great working relationship and a great off-set working relationship, but because the dynamics are so different, you see it play out on screen.  I have a lot of respect for Genie Francis.  I love working with her.  It’s interesting that we have an opportunity to build this relationship on-screen, and that we don’t have the history off-screen.  Cane and Genevieve have this back-story.  I have always tried to maintain a certain level of ambiguity with my relationship with Genie Francis, because I know that carries over into the ambiguity and the history of Cane and Genevieve.

MICHAEL:

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From having spoken to you and many of your cast mates over the years, I know you have a very thoughtful process to your acting approach.  So I am wondering, what does Cane really think of this woman, Genevieve?  I know she is his mother, but she has done some horrendous things for god sakes!

DANIEL:

Exactly!  But I think at the same time Cane does genuinely feels like he wishes that his mother could step up, and be the mother she should be to him.  I think he is at that stage of his life where he will always give her the benefit of the doubt.  But when it becomes emotionally exhausting, he has to then step away for his sanity and his family’s sanity.

MICHAEL:

There is also such sweetness and pure love in scenes between Cane and Katherine played by Jeanne Cooper.  Katherine always seems to be there for Cane, no matter what he has done to her family in the past!  How is it having Jeanne back on the set after her medical leave?

DANIEL:

I love having Jeanne back.  She is doing great.  Jeanne Cooper is the glue that holds this show together.  I think that when she was not here, she was greatly missed, and you could feel that throughout the set.

MICHAEL:

There is a surprise visitor at the nuptials!  Will that cause a wedding day ripple? Or, is it a little blip in the road?

DANIEL:

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I think it sets up the impending drama that we understand that Genevieve truly does love Cane even though she is incapable of taking herself out of the equation.  She will still do things for her own purpose and cause, but by her showing up at the wedding, the audience knows her heart is in the right place. Now it’s about seeing if they can overcome their history and their inability to make it work.  It allows the show the ability to rectify things between them down the road.

MICHAEL:

Will Cane’s sister Samantha get brought up again?  It was dropped all of a sudden, too!

DANIEL:

I don’t know, but that would be interesting.  Who knows what they will do with that? She is a keystone part of the relationship between Cane and Genevieve.  I think her death led to the unfolding of everybody’s relationship…. Colin and Cane…Caleb and Cane …. Genevieve and Caleb and vice versa … and so I think Sam is very integral to their dysfunctional relationship.

MICHAEL:

I thought your scenes with Tristan Rogers (Ex-Colin, Y&R, now Robert, GH) were interesting.  Was it hard to see Tristan all of a sudden leaving the canvas?

DANIEL:

Whenever somebody leaves a show that you love working with, and you have a great rapport with, it’s always hard.

MICHAEL:

Christel and you are so beloved by the fans and the Y&R audience.  What is it about Christel that you enjoy working with, and why do you think it translates on screen for LANE?

DANIEL:

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I think Christel and I have a frivolous sense of humor when it comes to things that most people take seriously.  We will be doing scenes where we know we have to say certain dialog, and while we run the words we want to change them, but we don’t.  So in the middle of a scene, when we get to that place, you will notice every now and then that we will stop and kind of smile and have a laugh and keep going.  That is because we bring the frivolity with regards to the way we perceive things through our scenes.  We have a very tongue and cheek way with certain things we find funny.  We have a very bawdy sense of humor about it.  Our sense of humor is very similar.  Christel is just great to work with.  I really enjoy the spontaneity of it!

MICHAEL:

It is Valentines Day, and you are married in real life.  So do you think Valentine’s Day is an important day for a couple or a big excuse for a commercial holiday?

DANIEL:

My feelings on Valentine’s Day are that you have to see if for what it is. It is a Hallmark sort of holiday created for that reason.  But, I am a big believer that everyday should be Valentine’s Day.  I don’t think you should cruise through the year and then say, “Oh, it’s February 14th.  I have to buy some flowers and be nice to my wife.” You know what I mean?

MICHAEL:

Of course I know what you mean.  But here is the million dollar question … will you be buying flowers and being nice to your wife today on Valentine’s Day? (Laughs)

DANIEL:

(Laughs)  The other thing I have learned is that every now and then when you have that inside voice saying, “You should buy your wife some flowers”…  buy the flowers.  If you are in the supermarket and you see the flowers … buy the flowers.  I am a detail guy.   So for me it’s all about the little things.  I always look for the details and how can we fix this or that.  I think you can have a great foundation and a great exterior, but when you do a photo shoot in a house and you don’t have the flowers on the table, and the little bits and pieces that make it looked lived in, it looks like a home that no one lives in.  Men, always buy the flowers when you think you should get them, not just on Valentine’s Day!

MICHAEL:

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Do you ever look back at all of Cane’s “power jobs” and go, “How the hell could this happen?”  I say that in light of Cane’s true and sometimes questionable background! (Laughs)

DANIEL:

I know!  If you do a Fortune 500 search for a lot of college dropouts in Fortune 500 companies, you will find that it’s something like 40%.  At the end of the day, you can go to school and just because you answer the questions right does not mean you have the wherewithal or the capacity to run a business.  I don’t think Cane has the book learning skills side of it, but I think he has the life lessons side of it, based on who he is and where he has come from.  The way he does business with people, he kind of understands who they are as people.  Cane at Jabot is very enthusiastic and cautious about falling into a family business which is an Abbott company.  I think he is sensitive about that.  However, that being said, he has no fears in doing business with anybody because if you can come from a family of gangsters than business people don’t really measure up.

MICHAEL:

So as the wedding of Cane and Lily unfolds, will members of the Winters, Abbotts, and Chancellor clans be supportive of their union? Or, should we expect much bickering and those snarky looks from various wedding guests throughout the ceremony?

DANIEL:

I think you get a very good feeling from the beginning of the wedding that it is going to have a happy ending.  I was talking to our executive producer and head writer, Maria Arena Bell while we were on location at Greystone and she said, “You know, this is really the first wedding we have had in a long long time that doesn’t end in a tragedy!” That is so true because recently Jack got shot at his wedding. Then remember, Victoria got arrested at her wedding, and at Cane and Lily’s first wedding after they leave, Cane looks up to the heavens and says, “Please forgive me for what I have to do.”  Maria said this wedding is something she wants the fans to get behind.  It’s going to be just a beautiful occasion between two very loved characters who have gone through so much, in the form of Cane and Lily, and they deserve to be happy together.

MICHAEL:

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Do you like the opportunity to get to dress up in character, and do the GQ look in tuxedos and suits, etc?

DANIEL:

I am a jeans and t-shirt type of a guy.  However, at the end of a day I enjoy shooting on location because we shoot in doors so much.  So I am a big believer in that any type of change from the norm is fun.

MICHAEL:

You have an amazing fan base that you consistently stay in touch with on your Twitter page.  Often, I find you chatting with them and engaging with them in conversation.  Do you think that is important for an actor to do in 2012 as a key ingredient to their success and staying power with a continuing series like Y&R?

DANIEL:

I think it’s important.  I think if you nurture something I think it grows on its own and then you find a way to allow it to be the best it can be.   Cane and Lily had a grass root fan base.  I remember back in 2007 when we started. The CBS Soaps in Depth polls were there and we were in the polls as couple number five, and we weren’t yet ranking in the individual actor polls.  I remember going to our former EP, Josh Griffith’s office going, “Dude, Dude, Dude, look at this!”  We next went from number five, then to number four, then to number three, and then to the individual actor polls. Then, TV Guide did this feature on the top people in daytime for both men and women.  I think I came in at number one for the men, and Christel came in at one of the top two spots for the women. I think for me I feel an obligation to allow the fans to get what they give to you. I think it’s selfish of an actor if he has a fan base, not to give the fans something really special because you touch so many lives. To bring so much joy and so much happiness to people, I mean, why not?  The fans have been amazing!

MICHAEL:

Can you comment on what you think some of Cane and Lily best and worst moments in story have been through the years?  

DANIEL:

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I love the scenes where you have an honest conversation between Cane and Lily, and you turn to the person and you go, “This is happening. How do I do this? How do I fix this?” The reason I like that is because that is what happens in real life!  I think as long as scenes have a truth to them, they are always well done.  I think that is what Christel and I always look for … that honesty.  You can look back at the history of the scenes we have had together and you can see the ones where there is a genuine love that the characters have for each other.  It does come from the writing, and there have been a lot of scenes like that.

MICHAEL:

Didn’t you think it might have been a tad tricky when viewers didn’t know if it was Cane or Caleb crawling into bed with poor Lily?

DANIEL:

Yeah, it was interesting.  I did not know when Caleb was Caleb and Cane was Cane until a certain point through it.  I had to play it ambiguously.  And for me it was difficult because I did not want it to look like Cane was ever manipulating Lily.  That is the sort of the thing whether you have to fake your death or whatever it is, you would deliberately not want to hurt the person you love in the process.  But it allowed for great drama that the fans could get behind, and then they were led out of that portion of the story to where we are now.  So I think it inadvertently allowed the audience to unify with a common voice which is now being repaid to them.

MICHAEL:

Do you love, hate, or were you on the fence, about playing twins?

DANIEL:

I loved it.  I really enjoyed it because when you play a twin they should not be diametrically opposed to one another. I think a lot of the time in life it should be, “Well, which one is it?” because a lot of twins grew up like that.  I enjoyed getting away from Cane and playing Caleb, and then coming back to Cane.  I love my character and my job.  I am very fortunate.

MICHAEL:

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Now, after the wedding will Cane will remain a good guy?  I assume he might be tinkering with some things for the greater good for whatever business he is involved with and to protect his family.

DANIEL:

I don’t think at this point you will see Cane being played any other way than how he deals with different obstacles to overcome and having different missions to accomplish.  I think we have established everything he has gone through from faking that he is Phillip Chancellor III …

MICHAEL:

Geez Daniel! You have had so many, “interesting” stories, to say the least!

DANIEL:

Yeah, I know. (Laughs)  Someone the other day said, “So tell me about your character?” And I was like, “Hmmm. Well….”  I think where we go now is giving the fans what they want which is a strong home based relationship and trials and tribulations occurring outside of that.

MICHAEL:

Do you have any problem at this point in your career in providing what you do for the daytime audience, and that is being the strong romantic leading man that can act?

DANIEL:

Well first, thank you.  No, I have no problem with that label.  I went the other route earlier in my career where I wanted to be the character actor.  I wanted to be the Viggo Mortensen and Sean Penn characters.  I have always come across this hurdle which is: if you look like the character, then you get to play the character guy type of roles.  So I think this is a niche that I have arrived at because I think this is where everything has led me towards.

MICHAEL:

You know when a soap couple ties the knot it often times spells disaster for their characters.  They can end up stalled in story, back-burnered, or they become incredibly boring because often times writers can’t seem to figure out what to do with a couple once they are happy.  Have you and Christel had a conversation about that?

DANIEL:

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No, no, no.  I think she and I could read the phone books together and make them fun.  I am not concerned at all.  But to be honest with you, every single fan I meet – whether at a personal appearance or walking down street – the first thing they say to me is, “God, we love Cane and Lily.   We love Cane and Lily together.  When are they going to be together?”  So, if you are talking about a couple where they don’t have the history and they don’t have the chemistry, then it’s doomed, because then the show has them get married and then they sit there looking at each other and go, “Well, what do we do now?” You could put Christel and me in a scene together about stuffing pillows with polystyrene, and we would find a way to make that funny and interesting because that is where she and I are at with our lives now.

MICHAEL:

Maria Arena Bell once told me that she would never have Michael and Lauren knowingly cheat on each other. (Of course, Lauren’s doppelganger was another story!)  So do you think with Cane and Lily in the future, and to protect the integrity of their characters and their marriage, the problems will come from an outside source?  I hope Cane won’t end up by accident in some women’s bed!

DANIEL:

Well, I did that already with Chloe when I woke up drunk in the car!  I think that you will find that you give the fans what they want, they stay watching the show, and then you give the fans something extra and then they tell new people who then start to watch the show.  That is a true tested historical fact and formula with any television show that has ever been on the air.

MICHAEL:

Daniel, you had some pretty heavy ups and downs with Y&R.  You were off the show at one point then brought back on.  Are there any hard feelings leftover from that whole set of circumstances?

DANIEL:

I have no hard feelings. I am just so happy to be a part of the show.  I love everything about the show, and to be honest with you, every single time I get a script, the first thing I do is read it.  I read the entire script, not just my part.  I am just so honored and pleased to be part of the Y&R family.

MICHAEL:

So, should we bring our hankies when we sit-down to watch the wedding of Cane and Lily today and tomorrow?

DANIEL:

Always bring your hankies … and your hanky-panky and some cake!  And make sure to watch the Price is Right, we are giving away a good trip, and The Talk  because whenever Christel and I do a talk show it is a lot of fun.

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MICHAEL:

Wow!  This is good.  They are pimping you guys out! (Laughs)

DANIEL:

Yeah! But Christel and I on a talk show is fun.  We have a very interesting relationship and I think our dynamic plays well.

MICHAEL:

Finally, what do you think your on-screen partner-in-crime Christel Khalil, would say about you if I asked her what it is like to work with you?

DANIEL:

She would smile and shake her head (laughs) and say we have a great time together.

 

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Enuf!Twit&TwatWriters
Enuf!Twit&TwatWriters

Thanks Michael for another DG interview! We Love Him!

Still waiting for a Christel Adnana interview; been waiting for years! What’s up with that–surely not a bit of sexism is it? LOL!!! Seriously we want to hear from both actors who comprise LANE–Lily and Cane and Christel does have a voice, an outlook to share!

Cassondra Brotzman
Cassondra Brotzman

lovely article

Christina
Christina

Awesome interview! I am so happy I was part of the campaign to keep Daniel Goddard on YR.

mandy
mandy

Great interview. Enjoyed it. Love Cane & Lily!

Michelle
Michelle

Thanks Michael for another AWESOME Daniel Goddard Interview! I enjoyed reading every minute of it!!

Linda
Linda

Great Post Loved it

tasneem
tasneem

Thanx Michael I love ur Daniel. Interviews. Can u plz interview Christel next

Peggy
Peggy

Another great interview with Daniel Goddard! Loved reading every bit of it! Thanks. Maybe at some point you could interview Christel Khalil.

Sammie
Sammie

That was an awesome interview Michael! Can you please interview Christel next? We want to hear from the whole LANE, not just half of LANE! LOL!

Sheryl
Sheryl

Thanks Michael for another great interview.

Jenna
Jenna

That was great, Michael. Thank you for posting this interview.

I like Daniel Goddard and have lurked on his Twitter before. He usually posts a shirtless photo of himself and makes me scratch my head as to why, but this interview put him in a different light. He sounded very down-to-Earth. I enjoyed it.

I do, however, still feel bad that they had to make Tristan Rogers’ character so evil to make Cane look good. It was such a waste of another amazing actor. I guess it is General Hospital’s gain … for a little while.

Barbara
Barbara

Based on the comments, it sounds like I may be in the minority. But I don’t like Cane. The character has done nothing but repeatedly lie the entire time that he has been on Y&R yet everyone, especially Kay and Jill, are dazzled by him. While I like Lily slightly more (which is not saying much), the character’s romantic partner is boring. I struggle to remain interested in scenes between these two. There is no way that I could root for them as “THE” couple on Y&R.

I feel like the writers keep pushing Cane and Lily on us, trying to get us to like them. It sounds like most of you do like them. Personally, I feel like the show is constantly shoving them down my throat in an effort to make them popular.

DeeDee
DeeDee

The writers made him lie silly girl! Bravo to TPTB for finally getting it RIGHT!
Lane Rocks Y&R!!!

Barbara
Barbara

Thanks for your well reasoned and very intellectually response. After fully considering your view, I’ll stick with my original opinion:

Both Cane and Lily blow. The show should immediately dump the actor playing Cane (hopefully, in a plot in which the character lies again and is killed as a result) and send Lily into the land of recurring character seen only at holidays.

kay killgore
kay killgore

When MAB took over the helm she was going to undo everything LML did the character of Cane was originated by LML this character should have just been left alone as is . MAB just kept changing his story I really liked Cane and I still like the actor I just think their were so many holes in the storyline fans were just frustrated.

Carolyn
Carolyn

Thanks for the article Michael! I enjoyed reading the interview with Daniel! Cane and Lily are my favorite couple on the show! I want them to stay and work together against any angst or problems that they encounter! I also helped in the campaign to keep Daniel on the show! Want to see more Cane and Lily!

Syreeta
Syreeta

Thanks. Great interview! I can’t wait to see what’s ahead for my favorite daytime couple , Cane and Lily.

Maya
Maya

Loved reading the interview on Daniel . Now please interview Christel.
Love Cane and Lily there are the BEST couple Y&R has ever had.

Angela Coleman
Angela Coleman

Loved this interview. A year later. A Great read in the face of the ridiculous writing that is occurring for Lane right now where married Lily is pursuing another man. Utterly unbelievable and out of character. I have stopped watching Y&R as a result. Ms, phelps, new executive producer, arrogantly said recently that viewers don’t know what they want to see. Maybe. But we definitely know what we don’t want to see. Destroying the integrity of the Lane love story tops the list. It is only a matter of time before this new leadership regime fails. Mark my words as a longtime viewer. The show is on a destructive path.

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Mishael Morgan Talks on Her Return to Y&R and Tackling the New Role of Amanda Sinclair

So, just how did The Young and the Restless lure back one of the series most powerhouse actresses to take on a brand-new role? Mishael Morgan, who earlier this year was nominated for a Daytime Emmy for Outstanding Supporting Actress in a Drama Series for her gut-wrenching final performances as Hilary Curtis, reveals in a new interview with Michael Fairman TV, what went down to bring her back to the CBS Daytime drama.

As fans know thus far, after appearing as ‘Ghost Hilary” through the late spring and summer, Y&R’s creatives worked behind the scenes to get Morgan back on screen without tainting Hilary’s ultimate demise.  That is when they came up with the role of the sexy yet tough lawyer, Amanda Sinclair.

So, enter Mishael in a new wig and style that defines Amanda as her own character.  Question is, since Amanda is a dead-ringer for the late Hilary, are they related? And, what will ultimately be proven to be in her DNA?  In story, Amanda entered the scene as the often-mentioned Chance Chancellor’s attorney.  She shows up in Genoa City to contest the legitimacy of the late great Katherine Chancellor’s will and the fortune she left to Devon (Bryton James).  With Devon directly in Amanda’s line of fire it sets the stage for potential fireworks down the line.

We sat down with Mishael backstage at Y&R for this informative and entertaining chat as we officially welcome back this truly kick-ass performer.  Here’s what Mishael shared below.

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What transpired behind the scenes to make it possible for you to come back to Y&R?

MISHAEL:  Tony Morina (executive producer, Y&R) kind of gave me a little bit of a heads up.  They called me back to come in and do the ghost episodes as Hilary, and it happened really quickly.  It was like, “Hey, Mishael, do you think you can do this?  Yeah?  Okay.  We’ll work it out with your team.  Alright.  We’ll see you tomorrow.” (Laughs) It was really, really fast.  I was hesitant for a second about the whole Hilary ‘ghost thing’, because I felt good about how we wrapped up Hilary’s storyline.  I’d only left for a couple of months, and I still felt funny about it, but I was like, “I’ll do it.  She’s a ghost … so she hasn’t returned from the dead.  So, it’s fine.”

Originally, I was concerned that they were going to have you as Hilary keep popping up as a ghost to Devon for an indefinite amount of time; when the show has already done that with Jack Abbott (Peter Bergman) and his father, John (Jerry Douglas).  Because of your previous performances, and Emmy-nominated performance for the final arc of Hilary’s story, I thought, in the end, it might detract from that.

MISHAEL:  Yes, and I think that’s how I felt too, but I agreed to do it because they said that it was going to be a max of seven episodes.  So, while I was doing that, Tony was on set watching the scenes.  Next, he just called me up and said, “Well, how do you feel about coming back?”  I was like, “Coming back?  Hilary is dead.  Like, Hilary is dead-dead.  Is this going to be an alternate universe?” (Laughs) He said, “Well, no.  You’d be coming back as a different character.”  That was really intriguing to me, because one of the reasons why I left was because I felt like creatively I’d played a character from beginning to end, and it felt like it would just be nice to go off and play somebody new.  I never in a million years thought that I could come back to Y&R and actually play someone new!  That was weird to wrap my head around when they said, “You’d play a new character,” but then when they said she was going to me a lawyer, my ears really perked up! I’ve always wanted to play a lawyer, because I have the background where I wanted to be a lawyer in real life.  So, then I’m like, “OK. Now I get to play a lawyer on TV.”  They really got their hooks in to me with that … and just hooked me in from there.  Then, I got open to the idea and the story that Josh Griffith (head writer, Y&R) wanted to tell.

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Once you learned the idea of the story from Josh, it seemed that things happened very quickly!  We all found out about your return via a social media post where you got to tell the fans yourself that you were coming back … but as a new character.

MISHAEL:  It happened relatively quickly in terms of me tentatively coming back, but then they still had to write the story.  So, everything wasn’t really confirmed until a couple of weeks before I started taping again.  We were in talks for about two months, and we worked it all out.  I said, “I’d do it,” and then it was 100% confirmed around August of this year, and I was airing in September.  It was kept was very, very quiet.

Are you still figuring out what Amanda’s back-story is?

MISHAEL:  I am.  I feel like every writer is a little different, and I feel like Josh likes to keep things very close and tight to his chest so that you kind of don’t know what’s happening.  Josh gives you enough information to play a little bit of something that is coming down the pike, but he doesn’t really disclose everything.   I’ve gotten little hints, and I kind of know where we are going, but I still don’t know the whole back-story of Amanda.  I’m still trying to figure her out.  If she’d been the polar opposite of Hilary, I think it might have been easier, but if you read her description, she’s very much like Hilary: A-type, strong, driven, all of those things.  Hilary had this very malicious, unscrupulous side to her, but I don’t know if Amanda has that.  In terms of the general description of the character, they’re very similar, which I was happy about just because I like playing strong women on TV.  If they had said, “We’re bringing on this character, and she is homeless” … or somebody who was super quiet… that would pose a different set of things for me as an actress.  I think seeing strong women of all different colors, shapes, and sizes is so important right now on TV, and it is very relevant.  I am happy to be a part of that.

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What was it like playing all of these entrance scenes as Amanda where your former and current scene partners had to suspend belief? There’s Bryton James, Christel Khalil, Daniel Goddard, Jess Walton, and you, and Amanda walks in like, “Hey there!” (Laughs)

MISHAEL:  We just laughed about it.  It’s one of those things that is so funny, and it can only happen in the world of soaps.  A lot of the fans said, “This is weird,” in the beginning, but the fans love the show, and they accept it, and they do suspend their disbelief, and then it becomes normal.   We just had fun with it.

You’re like, “Hi, do you like my new hair?” (Laughs)

MISHAEL:  That was the thing too.  (Laughs) I don’t even think Christel even saw my hair until she came to set, and she was like, “Oh wow! I like your new hair.”

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What happened when you and Christel taped the scenes where Lily sees Amanda for the first time, after the former contentious relationship of Lily and Hilary that ultimately changed the course of both their lives?

MISHAEL:  For me, it was super fun and easy because I don’t know any of the Hilary/Lily back-story.  I just play very oblivious like,“Hi, I’m just here.” (Laughs)  So, it’s very easy for me, but I almost envy a lot of the other characters who have to play all of these layers because Lily does have that back-story because she was charged for Hilary’s death, and the guilt associated with doing something like that, and also the hate that she had for Hilary.  Then overcoming that hate, and then going on that entire beautiful journey that they had together as women.  But now having that as a layer, and adding on top of it this woman who looks exactly like Hilary, but is a completely different person, is really interesting. Even for Bryton, I feel like he has a golden opportunity as well, because to have that love of your life, and then a new love of your life there in Elena, and then see a woman who looks just like your ex-wife is, I’m sure, really difficult.  Your mind would just be exploding!

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How did Bryton find out that you were coming back, and what was his reaction to the news?

MISHAEL:   Well, I came in for the ghost episodes, and I just couldn’t hold it in any longer.  I told him before we finalized this new deal.  He’s a friend of mine.  I wanted to get his opinion, and he was like, “You should do it!”  I was like, “Really?  It feels so weird because I just left a year ago, and I was so happy and content with leaving, so it feels weird to come back.”  He was like, “No, it will be fine.”  He’s like, “The fans will love you either way.  They’ll want you back.”   I was worried about how the fans would feel because it is such a quick return.

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What is the feedback you’re getting from the fans thus far on your transformation from Hilary to now Amanda?

MISHAEL:  I feel like it’s pretty positive for the most part.  There are always going to be a couple of fans who are skeptical … or who don’t like the storyline … and even if they don’t like it they say, “This is kind of weird to bring her back as a different character.  We miss Hilary, but we love that Mishael Morgan is back, so, that kind of makes it all OK.”

The story that brings Amanda to Genoa City revolves around the legitimacy of Katherine Chancellor’s (the late Jeanne Cooper) will, and she comes in and says there was a counterfeit will etc.  She’s the messenger at this point and her client is Chance, correct?

MISHAEL:  Yes, Amanda’s client is Chance.

Isn’t she starting to question the legitimacy of her client?

MISHAEL:  Yes, but I think she still believes that it was Chance.  She’s kind of wondering now … because she even accuses Jill (Jess Walton).  She’s like, “It’s your grandson.  He’s all out to lunch.  He’s not getting back to anybody.”  Jill is very much in the headspace where she is like, “Well, this is probably not my grandson.”  Amanda is like, “I’m pretty sure it is.”  So, I think Amanda still thinks that it is Chance, even if he is a criminal, and even if he is doing something tricky.

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How did Amanda get contacted by Chance in the first place to take this case?

MISHAEL:  It was an email, and then Amanda spoke to him on the phone …  or at least to who she believed was Chance.  He signed the papers, he scanned them over, and he forwarded Amanda the retainer. She had no reason not to believe that it was him.

So, when Amanda came to see Devon and company, she had no idea that there was this lookalike of her that was intertwined with this family?

MISHAEL:  No, but then after Devon tells Amanda about all of this, she sees pictures of Hilary online, but this is all done off-camera.

Does Amanda now suspect that she could be a twin? 

MISHAEL:  I think so.  I’m kind of playing that or keeping that there.  I’m kind of playing that as part of the reason why I want to stay in town because Amanda is intrigued by this other person who looks like her.  This could possibly be family.  I think it adds an extra layer as to why she wants to stay on Genoa City.  It is not just because she likes this person, or that person.  I think it is because she wants to figure out her connection to this person who looks just like her.

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We’ve seen Amanda be a little shifty.

MISHAEL:  Maybe a little bit. (Laughs)

What do you think we, as the audience, should be feeling at this point about Amanda?

MISHAEL:  I think we just have to wait and see.  Hilary had a lot going on before I left, and this is a new character who is slowly building.

I think that one of the things that daytime shows often have done wrong is that when they bring in a new character, they shove them down the audience’s throats too fast that they get sick of them.  I don’t know if that’s the tactic for the emergence of Amanda, more of a slow burn?

MISHAEL:  I feel like they are definitely doing a good job of building her character slowly and adding layers.  It’s not all coming out right away.  I feel like people should be feeling excited to try and figure out who this woman is because that is what it is eventually going to be leading to.  Right now, we are all just together in trying to figure out who she is.  I feel like everybody is really excited (and I am too) to get going, but even when Hilary came to Genoa City, it took about a year for her to catch her stride.  I think it’s going to take a while to really understand the meat of this character and how she fits into everyone’s lives.

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Do you think Amanda feels badly about what is going on with Cane and Devon with the will, and how it would change both their lives forever?

MISHAEL:  Yes.  I definitely think that she feels badly about that.  In the beginning, it was very much her job.  I think when Devon is contemplating giving over his fortune, it makes Amanda see him in a different light, and her empathy for him starts to increase because she sees that he is a good guy, and that there wasn’t anything that he did that was malicious.

I think there is an attraction brewing here between Devon and Amanda.

MISHAEL:  Possibly.  I mean … Devon was attracted to someone who looked like Amanda.

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Will she like him if he has no money, though?

MISHAEL:  I don’t know… I mean, Hilary definitely wouldn’t. (Laughs)

What do you think about working with Brytni Sarpy (Elena)? I see a triangle or quadrangle brewing and I see catfights in your future!

MISHAEL:  I love Brytni.  I definitely see that because Elena is definitely in the state of mind where she can’t stand this Amanda character.  The second she walked through the door, she couldn’t stand her.  I’m sure there are going to be some catfights coming.  I’m sure that it is going to be very entertaining for everybody! We’ll see.

Because you were considering being a lawyer … wait until you get into the courtroom set for some scenes!

MISHAEL:  I know, I’m excited for that!

Christian LeBlanc (Michael) always loves the courtroom monologues because he says it’s like doing a stage play.  Will you be up for that?

MISHAEL:  I think it’ll be ready for it.  I had a little one already to kind of warm up.  I won’t tell you what it was about.  I was like, “I can do this,” and I think it would have been even more fulfilling if there were an actual jury there where it feels like you’re performing.

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What kind of lawyer is Amanda?  Does anyone know? (Laughs)

MISHAEL:  Well, right now she specializes in estates and trusts, but the one thing that I do know about attorneys is that technically with your license you can kind of do anything.  It is just that your experience will be in a specific area.  So, certain people may not want you to defend them, because you’ve never defended people in these cases.  I feel like it is not the same as a surgeon.  A surgeon specializes in the heart, and they don’t really do anything else, but as an attorney, you can kind of do anything.  You can defend anyone if the price is right and you feel confident.

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When you were thinking of being a lawyer, did you think of the kind of lawyer you wanted to be?

MISHAEL:  Well, when I wanted to be a lawyer, I wanted to be an international human rights lawyer.  So, something very different.  I wanted to save the world.

You know what they should do?  Maybe Amanda could have a courtroom show.  Instead of Judge Judy, it could be called Judge “Mandy”!

MISHAEL:  Put people in their places.

That’s if Amanda doesn’t get a talk show gig on the side, like Hilary did with GC Buzz! (Laughs)

MISHAEL:  With the courtroom cases, and the talk show, that would be a lot.

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We talked about Hilary and taking her through everything she had gone through, and it really was the perfect ending when she passed.   Do you look back on that time and that work which we all loved so much?

MISHAEL:  Yes, I do.  I still look back on it, and I feel so blessed to have gone through that journey with her and to have created such a great character.  There are times when I’m like, “Yeah, coming back as Hilary would have been a lot of fun,” because I read the lines, and I know how Hilary would say everything, and now I have to figure out how Amanda says it – and it never feels the same, because I got so used to this being Hilary’s home.  I feel like Amanda is a little more like me, so there is a little less playfulness happening.

You want more of that which is reminiscent of Hilary, or not as much with Amanda?

MISHAEL:  I feel like naturally there is not as much now with Amanda, but I do want more of the playfulness to happen. It’s fun to play that on camera.  I feel that’s the fun of acting and pretending in that you get to be less of yourself, and more like a character.  Hilary was so different from me that it was just so fun to play her.  I feel like I’ve got to find those things in Amanda that make her unique and different that I can indulge in.

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In real-life you’re now a mom of two.  When you leave your kids to come to work, is it hard for you?

MISHAEL:  It is, but it’s okay because my husband stays at home with them.  We bounce back and forth.  He doesn’t work when I am working, and the days when I am not working, I am at home, and I get to enjoy time with them.  Then, when I am working, he stays home, and he gets to enjoy time with them.  It sucks to leave them, but at the same time it’s great to know that they are getting to spend time with their father, and I’m getting some ‘me time’.  I think that is necessary, because being a stay at home mom was a lot harder than I thought.  It is exhausting, and you are always on call.  You feel like you’re a surgeon.  It is just too much at times.

You always have the best Instagram photos with your kids and their outfits.  Are you going to have them dressed for Halloween?

MISHAEL:  Oh, yes.  They are going to dress up.   My son is going to be a firefighter, and I am going to be the fire, and my husband is going to be the fire hydrant, and my daughter is going to be the fire dog, the little Dalmatian!

Were you thrilled that you had a daughter this time, after previously having a son?

MISHAEL:  Yes.  At the time, I was okay with whatever the gender turned out to be.  I know everybody says it, but as long as they’re healthy, that is the most important thing.  I even thought about if I did have another boy, there would be that brother bond.  I grew up with sisters so to give him a brother would have been great, too.  Everybody always wants to have one of each because you want to be able to see what a boy would look like, and what a girl would look like, and their temperaments and all of that.  So, it’s nice that we got one of each.  We are happy.  We are good.  No more kids in my future.  (Laughs)  I shouldn’t say that too much because what if I do get pregnant, and my kid is like, “I was definitely an accident, Mom?” (Laughs)

We don’t know who Amanda has ties to at this point, but would you like to see her in another romantic relationship with some guy who is not Devon?

MISHAEL:  I would like to see that just because it would be something that kind of defines her as her own kind of person with her own journey and her own likes and her own dislikes.  I even feel that if she just ends up with Devon, it would be kind of weird.  We don’t know if Hilary and Amanda are related, but if they are related somehow, you would not have the same experiences, you would not have the same connections as this person.  As far as who I would want to work with, I don’t know.  I don’t know how to judge.  Well, Sean Dominic (Nate) has been awesome.  It would be kind of cool to be with Sean character-wise, because if Amanda ends up with Nate, that’s a relative of Devon, so Devon would have to see that all of the time … so that’s interesting.

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How is working with Sean?

MISHAEL:  Lots of fun.  He actually has the same birthday as my dad.  He’s a really cool guy, and we get along great.  That is half the battle because every now and again (and you rarely hear about it) you can’t stand the person you’re working with, and every time you get into scene work with another character, you’re always wondering, “Am I going to get along with this person?”  I love Bryton because we definitely have a special connection when we are on camera and when we are working together.  We’ve known each other for so long, and we’ve done so many amazing scenes together, and I think there is a lot of trust there.  It’s easy to just work with him.  That being said, the challenge of working with another character would be great as well.  We’ll just see where the chips fall.  Either way; I’m going to have a blast.

So, Camryn Grimes (Mariah) and you obviously have this great relationship together on-screen.  Mariah was Hilary’s dear friend.  Did you ever see her performance after Hilary died and her heartbreaking monologue on the set of GC Buzz?

MISHAEL:  Yes, I did.  It was amazing.  She’s an amazing actress.  She’s an amazing person.  I was so happy to work with her, and I am so happy to be back, because we are such good friends.  My first day back on set when I walked in, Camryn was the first person I saw.

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Did Camryn know you were coming back to the show as Amanda?

MISHAEL:  Yes, she knew I was coming back.  We had a big hug and everything like that, and we were laughing about the fact that she’d come back to Y&R too as a whole different character.  So, I was like, “What pointers can you give me?” I would really love to figure out how Amanda and Mariah can work together.

The big question … I wonder if Amanda will have friends in Genoa City? (Laughs)

MISHAEL:  I think she would.  I mean, I know she is a little uptight, but I think she’ll have friends.  I hope so.  I don’t know who though. Guess everyone will have to stay tuned to see.

So, are you happy to see Mishael back at The Young and the Restless? What do you think of the character of Amanda Sinclair thus far? Do you want to see her with Nate, Devon, or someone else on the canvas romantically?  Do you think it will turn out that Hilary and Amanda were twins? Share your thoughts via the comment section below.

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B&B’s Matthew Atkinson Talks On Thomas’ Vendetta With Brooke & Playing The Manipulative Bad Boy Of The Forrester Clan

Since coming to The Bold and the Beautiful earlier this year, Matthew Atkinson is making his mark in the role of Taylor (Hunter Tylo) and Ridge’s (Thorsten Kaye) son, Thomas Forrester.  But while Matthew was a recast for his predecessor Pierson Fodé, his Thomas is quite different.  The new Thomas is a bad boy capable of horrific manipulations to get what he wants, and a young man who has caused so much suffering already for the Logans, Spencers, and the Forresters  But is there a heart underneath that often volatile exterior?

After all, Thomas went to great lengths to keep Hope (Annika Noelle) in a relationship with him and for her to be a “mother” to his son, following the death of Caroline.  So, what did he do? He covered-up and blackmailed many people to keep their mouths shut to the truth – that his sister Steffy’s (Jacqueline MacInnes Wood) little girl, Phoebe, was actually baby Beth, the child Hope and Liam (Scott Clifton) believed had died at birth!

Following the big reveal, and getting a bit of comeuppance, Thomas landed in the hospital with a questionable push from Brooke (Katherine Kelly Lang) after a fall.  After promising to change his ways, looks like Thomas is back to scheming and conniving – this time to make sure Brooke gets payback and that her marriage to his father blows up to smithereens.  Meanwhile, Thomas needs to be a better father to his little boy, Douglas (Henry Joseph Samiri), but will the Logans and the Spencers come between father and son?

Michael Fairman TV chatted with Matthew Atkinson to get his take on: the emotional make-up of his incarnation of Thomas Forrester, what his ultimate takedown of Brooke would be, and how he thinks Thomas can find a way back into the family good graces, and more.  Here’s what Matthew had to say about it all.

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Thomas really has a vendetta with Brooke.  The scene where Brooke slaps him illustrated just how deep-rooted his issues apparently are with her. What did you think about what Thomas said to Brooke that came to a boiling point with the slap, and what was it like performing the material with Katherine Kelly Lang?

MATTHEW:  Katherine rocks every chance I get to be around her.  She is such a sweet human being and so fun to work with and takes her job seriously and puts a lot of work in, and I think it shows.  As far as the scene goes, every chance that I get to work with her is fun.  She’s just a great actress.  Brooke basically had this vendetta against Thomas for a while now, and she was the one who unjustifiably went a little crazy about Thomas before anybody knew Thomas was off the rails.  So, it’s kind of this interesting culmination of having that where she has built herself up to hating Thomas at this point, and she is just scared of him and what he could possibly do.  Then you have Thomas, who has hated Brooke ever since she came in and destroyed his family.  There is so much emotion there and so many levels to it.  It’s just so much fun to play around with, and in those scenes especially, it is kind of like neither one of them really has a filter.  They are both just going at each other.

He is punctuating his plan by telling Brooke that she may, “Have his father tied around her slutty little finger, but her reign of terror ends with him!”  I was just like, “Uh-oh.” (Laughs)

MATTHEW:  Yeah, and that’s how Thomas sees Brooke.  He sees her as this slutty woman who came in and kind of giggles her way into his dad’s life and flirted with him and destroyed his entire family.  Thomas sees her and all of her sisters as these air-headed women who are kind of just family-destroying kind of people.  They come in, they do whatever they can to get what they want, and he doesn’t care about them at all.  I think he has kind of gotten to this point, especially with Brooke … considering what happened with Hope and that he has this genuine love for Hope.  Brooke won’t even accept that, or think about that as a possibility with how she views him.   It’s that crazy dynamic and those scenes were definitely an emotional peak for both of them.

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Thomas seems to become obsessed, and laser-focused on people like Hope, and now Brooke.  What has happened to him?  How are you playing this behavior pattern of his that we are seeing established?

MATTHEW:  Some of the most successful people in the world are people who obsess over things.  I think Thomas is like that, but I think that since Caroline’s death, his obsessive nature has been so focused on things other than fashion.  They aren’t his job and what his talents are, which is where he should focus all of that energy, but instead it’s been on his son needing a mother.  So, getting Hope in his life was key to him, and with Brooke, it’s a woman who has destroyed his entire family.  He wants his dad to be better off.  He wants his entire family to be better off.  He honestly feels that they would be better off without Brooke in their lives, and so that is what he is focused on.  I don’t think it’s necessarily a bad attribute to have when it is focused in the right direction, but for Thomas, since the death of Caroline, his focus has been on things that are a little abstract and are not necessarily objectively sound decisions.

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What was interesting was that I did not know how they were going to be able to save the character of Thomas on the B&B canvas after all that he has perpetrated.  But then, there were scenes in the hospital where he is recovering from his “fall”, and Thomas is having big emotional scenes with Ridge and Steffy.  In those moments as the viewer, you say to yourself: “Oh, they’re going to redeem him,” but then they don’t.  He goes right back to a new vendetta.  What did you think of those plot twists?

MATTHEW:  The interesting thing about this character is that I don’t think this guy is a bad guy.  I think he is a guy who is doing a lot of bad things, but I think a lot of people can relate to him and the struggles that he is dealing with: being a single father and having a rough childhood with his family being broken up.  This is a guy who wants his father to approve of him and respect him and he has never really felt that way.  I think a lot of people out there know what it’s like to have a parent who they just want approval from but can’t get it … couple that with the fact that he let his sister down.  Everybody knows what it is like to think that they are making the right decision and end up making the wrong decision and possibly hurting someone in the process … and the kind of shame that you feel from doing something like that.  I think this makes Thomas an interesting character where viewers could say, “Well, he is doing bad things, and I don’t agree with anything that he is doing, but I can relate to him, and I want him to be better, and I want him to get better and become the good person we all know he can be.”  Yet, Thomas just keeps making all of the wrong decisions.

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I predict that in short order, Thomas will be in cahoots with Shauna (Denise Richards)!

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MATTHEW:  Okay, we shall see.  (Laughs)  They have aligned interests; especially at the moment, when it comes to removing Brooke from that situation.  I think with Shauna, it’s fun that Denise Richards has come into this role and what she has done with this character.

Denise Richards is doing a great job in the role.

MATTHEW:  She’s amazing, but I think that behind the thought process she has is this woman, Shauna, who is not so dissimilar from Thomas, and is willing to blur the lines of what is acceptable and morally sound to make sure that she gets what she wants.

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When you were taping those emotional hospital scenes where Thomas admits he has lost his way, and reaching out to his dad to try to find forgiveness, how were playing those scenes with Thorsten Kaye?

MATTHEW:  I respect Thorsten a lot as an actor.  I just love having scenes with him because I feel like we play off of each together so well.  When we enter a scene together, we are both in it.  When you are both in it, something real happens from that, and those real moments are kind of magical in a way, and it makes you feel great about the work that you do.  Thorsten shows up, and he’s prepared, he knows what he is doing, and at the same time, there is this connection between father and son.   I think Thorsten and I have definitely done that as father and son, and Jacqui and I have done that as brother and sister.

Since the show usually has you shirtless or sneering in scenes (laughs), I was so happy that they finally let you have some crying scenes.  It was at the point that the audience was able to see you bring another emotional level and dimension to the character.

MATTHEW:  I think he is not a guy who breaks down and cries very often.  It takes something very serious (especially for him) to get to that point.  For Thomas, the most important thing in the world is family, and he has kind of destroyed his relationship with his own family with what he has done, and I think that from the inside out is what breaks him.

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Speaking of shirtless scenes; in a short amount of time you have been with the show, I think you may have set a record there.

MATTHEW:  (Laughs) Yep.  It’s all the time because the wardrobe sends me mostly pants – no shirts (Laughs).

Obviously, there is the issue of Thomas’s son, Douglas … and will he lose him because Hope and Liam want to gain custody of him. Brooke wants Thomas out of Douglas’ life for good.   This poses a major obstacle for Thomas moving forward. Agree?

MATTHEW:  Sure.  However, Brooke has no legal right to stand on.  You can’t just take a guy’s son.  There’s no legal way to do that, but they can try their hardest to either sign adoption papers or sign over custody, or something like that, but there’s not a legal way they can go and just take his son.  There are a lot of people who I understandably think Douglas would be better off with being raised by Hope and Liam, but I think Thomas has a point of view too, and just because he is going through a bad part of his life at this time, doesn’t mean that he is unfit to be a father.  I think Thomas will prove that he is fit to be father and all the while, a great force to be reckoned with,

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But, Thomas hasn’t been so great to Douglas, either.  Hasn’t he yelled at his son, manipulated him for his own gain, etc?

MATTHEW: Right, this was kind of right before the truth about Beth came out, and Thomas was on this massive downward swirl where he wasn’t thinking clearly; he wasn’t himself. I  think in reality, you have a person who went off the rails, he wasn’t being himself, he found the person he wasn’t, and I think that the “accident” of Brooke pushing him off a cliff, the slip, kind of clarified his intention in life to be a good, standup person from here on out.  So, I think his priorities are straight now, and I think he is thinking clearly.  I don’t think he is in the same mental state that he was before, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that he won’t be manipulative and that he won’t get what he wants, because he will.  There was a time that he went through a headspace when nothing was really clear for a minute, and he didn’t really have any moral backbone, but I don’t think that moving forward you’re going to see a Thomas Forrester that would hurt his son.  You’re going to see a Thomas Forrester who will stop at nothing to protect his son.

How does Thomas feel about Hope now, especially since Hope wants to raise Douglas? 

MATTHEW:  Well, here is what I will say; I think that Thomas has always had a love for Hope. I think he respects her as a person, I think he has seen her be a mother to his child, and that is undeniable … how much of a connection that she has to Douglas, and she is incredibly important to him.  Thomas can basically discard any Logan except Hope.  Hope is kind of his kryptonite.  So, going forward, I think you’ll maybe see a guy who wants to discard Hope as a person who he cares for (her and the rest of the Logans), but he may not be able to do that, because she has got a place in his heart that he can’t compartmentalize and leave behind.

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What can you say about working with Annika Noelle, because you as Thomas had been terrorizing Hope for many months?

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MATTHEW:  Well, she’s a sweetheart, but also, secondly, she is a badass.  She could kick my butt any day of the week.  So, I just had to make sure that in between takes I said, “You understand that I wouldn’t do this to you.”  She’s so sweet, and she was actually one of the first people to talk to me about taking over a role on the show, because she had been one of the most recent people to take over a role, and that was something that was really hard for me.  Coming into a character that has already been there for 30 years, you have a lot to live up to.  She was amazing from the beginning just helping me through that process.

On that note, what did you think of the epic fight scene on the rooftop opposite Scott Clifton; right before all the truth came out to Hope that Beth is alive and Thomas was lying to Hope and up to no good?

MATTHEW:  So much fun.  The shots they got were incredible.  Shooting those fight scenes was so much fun and I love Scott to death.  So, every time we get to work together it’s fun, but just getting outside and literally pretending to beat the crap out of each other is a blast.  We got to go out to Malibu, and I got to fall over a cliff.  What else can you say about that? (Laughs)

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There is another interesting relationship Thomas has on B&B, and that is with his friend, Vinny.  How has it been creating the on-screen dynamic with Joe LoCicero (Vinny) as these two scheming dudes?

MATTHEW:  I like it, and I love Joe.  This dynamic between these two guys is really funny because you have this shrewd, alpha male, Thomas Forrester, who is extremely driven, and insanely smart, but also very manipulative and he has got a thousand things going on.  On the flipside, you’ve got Vinny, who is just this guy who he has been friends with for a really, really long time, who just kind of lives life.  He is living in his apartment in Venice, he sells some not so legal substances just to his friends, and he’s a decent guy.  It’s just fun when we have these scenes together, because essentially you’ve got him looking at me like I’m an alien creature, and thinking, “I don’t understand this guy.  I don’t know why he is acting this way, but who cares; I’m going to eat my Chinese food.”  (Laughs) I think it kind of grounds some of those scenes especially when you see Thomas going off that rails, and his friend doesn’t even seem to notice. (Laughs)

I know! (Laughs) Thomas has got his own sidekick.

MATTHEW: I think Vinny wants to give sound advice, but he gives all the worst advice.  He’s like, “Well, the way you described it Thomas, it sounds like a good idea, so yeah, go ahead with that,” but maybe doing a little behavioral cognitive therapy and questioning would be good for Vinny.  He just kind of goes, “okay,” (laughs) but I think that’s what makes those scenes so much fun.

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Having appeared on The Young and the Restless previously you know how soaps go.  There is always this fear of: “Will they kill me off if my character has gone too far?” Did at any point in Thomas’ storyline, and as you got the scripts and read all the terrible things Thomas was doing, that the character might get murdered, kicking off a murder mystery, and you’d have to make an exit?

MATTHEW:  I’d had discussions with Brad Bell (executive producer and head writer, B&B) and I kind of knew where the character was going, so I kind of knew that he was going down a rabbit hole, but that Thomas wasn’t a lost cause.  I knew that he would at least be present for the upcoming short future that I know of, that Thomas wasn’t going to find his demise, which was very nice of Brad to give me that insight into the character to not only know what was coming up, but also know where his head is at by this point.  It helps me with the character work that I do for each scene and prep for each day; because I know where Thomas’ head is going to be at two weeks from now.

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Have you had any interactions with fans, or are you checking out on social media what the viewers are saying about Thomas?  Do they love him?  Hate him?  Is there a great debate going on?  What is your take on where Thomas sits with the audience?

MATTHEW:  Oh, yeah.  I definitely pay attention.  The fans are the reason I have the job that I have.  All the feedback that I have seen is positive, and by positive, I mean that it is emotionally effective.  Now, that doesn’t necessarily mean that people are happy with Thomas because most people are not happy with Thomas.  They don’t like what he is doing, and that obviously gets them angry or sad or whatever, but that is kind of the point of the show.  If you’re watching a bunch of characters who are all great people and who all do nice things, then it wouldn’t be that much fun to watch.  You’d be watching 40 Liam’s talk to each other, and it would be like, “Yeah, it’s just another day in Happy World.”  (Laughs)  I think that Thomas especially has been such a driving force in the last couple of months and caused a lot of drama.  I think there are a lot of storylines that people have connected to in the past that are really making people enjoy the drama happening now. You have the people who hated Ridge getting together with Brooke in the beginning that are happy with what Thomas is doing now.  You have the people who are pro – Liam and Steffy.  Thomas has been a big advocate of that since the beginning.  There are some people who just can’t stand Thomas and don’t like him, and he makes them mad, but the reality of it is that there is a thin line between love and hate.  So, as long as they love me or hate me, I’m happy.

So, have you been enjoying Matthew’s portrayal of Thomas? Do you think he will rip Brooke and Ridge apart for good and succeed in his plans? Do you think he should somehow pay for his manipulations? Share your thoughts on the current B&B storyline involving Thomas via the comment section below.

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Eileen Davidson & Vincent Van Patten Talk ‘7 Days to Vegas’, Their Relationship and Y&R, DAYS & RHOBH

Today’s the day for the highly-anticipated film, 7 Days to Vegas which bows in selected theaters. The motion picture which stars Vincent Van Patten and his real-life wife, two-time Daytime Emmy winning actress Eileen Davidson (Y&R’s Ashley and former Kristen/Susan Banks, Days) is a comedic gambling romp, centering around the character of Duke (Van Patten), an out-of-work actor turned poker player who makes a prop bet that he walk from the San Fernando Valley in California to Sin City, Las Vegas in 7 days.

There are some catches to this bet that make it even more challenging  … Duke has to wear a suit the entire time in scorching heat.  The events in the movie are loosely based on Van Patten’s Hollywood Poker game nights.  7 Days to Vegas features a fictional gang of betting entertainment industry bigwigs, who are hardcore gamblers and of course, jealousy strikes.  Davidson plays Duke’s wife, KC.

Michael Fairman sat down with Eileen and Vincent at their home, and at their famed poker table for the Michael Fairman Channel, to chat about the making of the movie, their relationship and some intriguing tidbits for fans of Eileen’s work on The Young and the Restless, Days of our Lives and her time on Bravo’s hit reality franchise, The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.

In 7 Days to Vegas, Eileen says that Vincent fashioned her role of KC after their real-life relationship adding, “They are in it together. This is a lifestyle that they both enjoy.  That is what somebody does when there is a home game; you call people up, and make sure who is going to be there.  Van Patten said, “There is a host of the game, and that is her role in the movie.”

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As to the scenes where Duke is walking to Vegas, Van Patten shared, “We shot the film in Santa Clarita, California in the hills and the mountains and all of that, and then we out five days after with a second unit shoot and shot with drones in the desert.  So, I must have walked 10 miles a day, shooting, sweating, but you don’t feel it, because when it’s your baby, it’s a labor of love.”

When asked if she would go back to daytime, Eileen shared she would be back for more Ashley on Y&R: “I am supposed to go back to Y&R in a couple of more weeks. So I am popping in and out at this point.”  Davidson also shared she wishes nothing but the best to Stacy Haiduk who inherited her roles on Days of our Lives as Kristen DiMera and Susan Banks. Eileen said she does not watch the episodes of the show anymore, because it makes her feel sad.  The roles of Kristen and Susan were so close to Davidson’s heart.

In speaking of her time on RHOBH, Van Patten shared, “I think she (Eileen) did a great job. It went by real quick. I think she did like three years on it.  I was in the background carrying her purse, going, ‘Yes, yes, here I come.”  (Laughs)  Davidson expressed: “Listen, reality TV … it’s a crazy, wild, Wild West.”  When Michael asked about the time a drink was thrown in her face, Eileen explained:  “I think Brandi (Granville) felt she needed to be relevant to be on the show, and her role was to be a troublemaker. I understand more of it now.  At the time, I was a deer in the headlights for the first couple of years.”  Vincent shared, “People always ask if this stuff is scripted, and it’s actually not, but you can spice it up”   As to if ‘Housewives’ makes up the drama, Davidson elaborated, “Before the season starts they will ask, ‘What is going on in your life?’, and maybe there is some of that behind-the-scenes stuff.  It didn’t happen with me.  I’m not saying it doesn’t happen, but it is a reality show, but it is also entertainment, and if all we did was sit around, how fun would that be?”

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Watch the full interview below with Eileen and Vincent and make sure to “subscribe” to The Michael Fairman Channel for more celebrity interview features.

Now let us know, will you be checking out 7 Days to Vegas, which will also be available on iTunes and VOD come September 24th? Do you hope there will be more Ashley on Y&R? Share your thoughts via the comment section.

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