Interviews
THE JOHN MCCOOK AND JENNIFER GAREIS INTERVIEW – THE BOLD AND THE BEAUTIFUL
By Michael Fairman
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Are you worried that Eric is being taken by another woman, like he has in the past?JOHN:
Certainly not! Eric is not being taken, and this is not just any other woman!JENNIFER:
I am not just any other woman! (She laughs)JOHN:
Eric is not being taken by Donna. Donna is not coming after Eric the way
she had manipulated Thorne, not at all. Eric is surprised at how open, and honest, and
vulnerable this woman is. She is not a girl. She opens the door, and he sees her and he
goes, “Oh, my God!” Donna has things to offer him emotionally, that he has never been aware of.TV SOAP:
Stephanie has perpetrated so much. How has that affected Eric’s decision-making?JOHN:
Stephanie walked out on the entire family after perpetrating this last
debacle, and Eric is finished. There is an emotional void in his life now, as there is nobody living upstairs with him, either.TV SOAP:
Jennifer, what do you think Donna’s modus opperandi truly is, in regards to Eric?JENNIFER:
I think she is just reacting, and not in a mode, or anything like that. She is being honest. Here this great, wonderful, talented guy comes into her life and sweeps her off her feet.TV SOAP:
But doesn’t Donna want to punish Stephanie?JENNIFER:
She wanted to get back at Stephanie and that’s why she got together with Thorne, and that is why she went for him. But, it still wouldn’t have been really nice to be with Thorne, because he is really hot and nice, and everything like that. With Donna’s relationship with Eric, it’s bigger than that. It’s not about revenge.TV SOAP:
So, Donna’s feelings are true blue for Eric?JENNIFER:
Yes, she has honest feelings for Eric. For Donna, that surprises her because she doesn’t know what that is. This is the first time in her life she has really fallen for someone. She has just been blindsided with this new relationship.JOHN:
It’s great! Yes, Eric has had several love interests in the past. What has been delicious for me as an actor, and for Eric, is that Jennifer pretty much has been an unknown quantity. I mean, I have seen her and said, “Hi!” and we know each other, but now it’s really wonderful to open the door in the scenes of discovery. These two characters are discovering one another, and as actors, discover one another, too. We discover what is fun about this and what is deliciously different about it. That is the fun of being an actor.TV SOAP:
So, you were surprised by Jennifer’s commitment and ability as an actress, in regards to this new on-screen relationship?JOHN:
She surprises me damn near everyday as an actor. It doesn’t scare me or blow me away, or anything. But, she will do something and I will go, “That’s nice!”STEPHANIE:
He surprises me, too. I will be in the middle of scene, and he does something when he acts like a little boy and gets all excited, and it’s really fun. John is energetic, and I think seeing that in John and in Eric, makes Donna really happy. It’s wonderful to work with that energy and spontaneity.TV SOAP:
Do you ever think about the older man/younger woman dynamic of this new coupling?JENNIFER:
No, I don’t think about that very much.JOHN:
No, I have been very careful. I have made a concerted effort not to refer to it as a May/December romance. This is a new Eric. He is unburdened by the negativity of his marriage to Stephanie, and the emptiness of it. He is unburdened by it because Stephanie is gone right now, and here is this wonderful woman. She is honest and supportive and energetic with him, and it’s pretty cool.TV SOAP:
But the big dilemma is whether to go back with Stephanie or divorce her and win back the company from Nick. That has got to be a huge part of this.JOHN:
I think he anticipates a dilemma when Stephanie comes back. But, when Stephanie comes back, I don’t think it’s going to be much of a dilemma.TV SOAP:
But Eric could fall back into old habits!JOHN:
He is vowing not to. This is different than before, in his relationship with Stephanie.TV SOAP:
But, what is going to happen to Forrester Creations?JOHN:
He desperately wants his company back. I don’t know what is going to happen there, but I would like to see him get his company back, at any cost. So, let’s see how that goes.TV SOAP:
What about how Thorne feels, now that his Dad and his ex-fiancée are hooking up?JENNIFER:
I think Thorne and Donna made peace, and we wished each other well in previous scenes… but then Thorne ends up catching Donna and Eric kissing. I think after he sees that his Dad is moving in, he is freaked out.JOHN:
He freaks out!JENNIFER:
There is a bit of jealously, and a feeling that it is kind of creepy. There is some disgust and it’s very gossipy to Thorne.JOHN:
Yeah, it’s creepy to him and it offends him. Eric says to him, “Stop it. Just stop it. Be a man here and get over it! And let’s have a little respect here!” Thorne is not coming at it with respect, because Dad has a new woman and it’s Donna. It’s too fresh and it freaks him out. Then, we have other members of the Forrester family, like Felicia… she freaks out.JENNIFER:
Everyone is freaking out, but I don’t think Eric and Donna really care. I think they are going to do what’s best for them and that’s being together.
JOHN:
That is something that has been very important for us to keep this going. We deal with the other characters on the show, and when we are alone together is when we get to show each other about what this relationship means to the audience, and us, too. And hopefully, the audience will see that. And then they see us dealing with everything else out there, and it’s hard to deal with everything else. But, when we are alone together we are very happy!TV SOAP:
Brad Bell (exec. prod. and head writer, “B&B”) often changes direction in the middle of storyline and takes it off its course into another story arc. Are you concerned about that with Donna/Eric?JENNIFER:
Well, I hope it doesn’t change. It would be a shame if it did.TV SOAP:
Did you see this coming? That after the fallout from the Thorne/Donna Wedding, that Donna would be paired with Thorne’s dad, Eric, of all things?JENNIFER:
No, I did not see that coming. I don’t think anyone saw that coming.JOHN:
No! It was a nice surprise to everybody. Then, when Rhonda Friedman (supervising producer, “B&B”) said to me, after we were just wrapping up the wedding scenes with Thorne and Donna….JENNIFER:
(She interrupts him)….Oh, yeah, John said to me, “Do you know what I know?”JOHN:
And I go, “Yeah I know!”JENNIFER:
And I go, “We are not supposed to talk about it.”TV SOAP:
But when you first figured out that you would be romantically paired, what was your initial gut thought?JENNIFER:
Wow! I can’t believe we are going there.JOHN:
Me too! Rhonda whispers to me, “Donna falls in love with Eric” and I went, “What? Cool!” The first thing you think of is, “Wow, this will be fun to play.”…and the next thing you think is, ”This is going to impact every other character on the show… it’s cool.”TV SOAP:
John, what do you think is the core of Eric Forrester?JOHN:
The core of Eric is that he is an artist and he enjoys the beauty in life, and he only wants to do that. That is what drew him to Stephanie when they were 20 years old. That she was this business person. She was practical about things, and the two of them sparked things in one another. They thought that this was a great partnership, and they were right, it was for a long, long time. What happened to Eric is that the enthusiasm of their young time together went totally away. Stephanie focused more and more and more on her children and less and less on Eric and the business…. and her offenses have been numerous. She has offended the law. She has crimes, misdemeanors and felonies for her protection of her children, and Eric has been trapped in that. I think that it is not so much that he is weak…. because he is my Eric! I think of him as manipulated and squashed down, and inhibited. He’s been pushed into a corner by a relationship that has evolved into something that is not very good.TV SOAP:
In reality, you do see many men in long-term relationships with domineering, tough, and powerful women, where they have the feeling of being stifled. So, it is an important issue you are representing.JOHN:
This is why I am very proud of Eric, for keeping Stephanie out of his life right now.TV SOAP:
Jennifer, what about Donna’s feeling for her sister Katie? Does she resent her?TV SOAP:
I thought for a while Katie and Donna would have some problems, but she is my sister. I guess if Katie would have not stopped the wedding, I would not have met Eric and been with him the way I have. So, it is hard to be too mad at her when her actions caused me to fall in love with the man of my dreams. I have mixed feelings with Katie. She is always a pain in my butt.TV SOAP:
So, how are you going to play Donna when Stephanie returns to the mix? Will you set out to get back at Stephanie through Eric?JENNIFER:
Am I trying to get back at Stephanie? No. I think it’s a fringe benefit, and it’s not a cause anymore. If anything, I don’t have vengeance in mind, but more justice in mind, because she has done criminal acts.TV SOAP:
Who is perpetrating what on whom then, seems to be the central theme coming up. Will it be Donna or Stephanie?JOHN:
That is a good speculation! (He laughs)JENNIFER:
She has been wrong before, and it’s not Donna wanting revenge. It’s just that Stephanie needs to get the hell out of our lives. It’s not just my life; it’s everyone’s life. She is nuts!JOHN:
She has offended everyone on the show with what she has done. There is no reason for anyone on the show to let her through the door when she knocks.JENNIFER:
But of course, her children are going to try to defend her. If you are a woman, you should know what Stephanie did to Brooke was wrong, and stand up for Brooke.TV SOAP:
What did you think about the recent Brooke storyline where she was raped?JENNIFER:
I thought, “Ooh, that is going to be really hard to play.”TV SOAP:
John, what did you think?JOHN:
I think those things are always hard to play. I salute Katherine Kelly Lang (Brooke), because she did an amazing job. It is hard to imagine that and play it, and execute good scenes, but Katherine does it every time.JENNIFER:
She did an amazing job!JOHN:
It’s a cool story! The thing that has happened with us is, that Stephanie has narrowed her cause in life so much in the last ten years, that there is hardly any room left for sympathy with her. I think that the characters are more and more feeling that way. I don’t know how the viewers feel, but as I said, I don’t even know why anyone would answer the phone for her or let her in the house. When she comes in the front door, she is already in a tirade.JENNIFER:
She throws Jackie off a balcony…. takes Brooke’s kids away…. gets Brooke raped….TV SOAP:
Are there emotions or things in scripts that are harder for you to pull off?JOHN:
Not for me. I think the hardest thing I am asked to do on this show is to be angry, and to be in confrontational scenes, because I am not a controversial guy.JENNIFER:
I love being angry! I don’t know. One time, I had to play high on heroine, cocaine and pot, in a movie. I felt like, how I am supposed to know about heroine and pot!
That was a challenge.TV SOAP:
What about when called upon to cry?JENNIFER:
I kind of have to walk around miserable all day, if I have a crying scene that day. The hair and make-up people are asking me, if I am all right? And I go, “Yeah. I am just thinking about my scenes,” and they leave me alone.TV SOAP:
John, is it hard for you to cry, on screen?JOHN:
It’s hard to cry a little bit, from time to time. That is the beauty of being on a soap opera with people for decades, when someone I love on this show, their character is dying. Or if there is an emotional sweet thing that happens with my daughters, and when I look at them, it’s easy for me to well up. I don’t have to go, “I am going to well up here.” I will do it if it happens and when it’s appropriate. We love each other here, and we have emotional connections with one another. It’s not about the show or the script; it’s about each other. We depend on each other so much.JENNIFER:
But there are two types of crying, though…. there is eyes welling up, and then there is tears dropping out.JOHN:
Tears dripping out, I can’t do.TV SOAP:
Do you joke on the set with one another?JENNIFER:
That is what is really fun about this. If there are really serious scenes, Patrick Duffy
(Stephen) and John McCook, are so funny together. They will exit the scene and pretend to bump heads in the door. Laughter and crying are so close, so its fun to have some comic relief.TV SOAP:
It helps relieve the tension during a hard day’s work?JOHN:
When you have serious scenes that day, Mr. McCook is not going to be as funny and as goofy as he wants to be. But, I am still going to do that, because you want to blow off steam when it’s building up.TV SOAP:
Who is the goofiest “B&Ber”?JOHN:
I am goofy, and Ronn Moss (Ridge) and Patrick Duffy are great. Patrick is great coming back on the show, because he worked with Larry Hagman (Ex- JR Ewing, “Dallas”) all those years. Those people were crazy on “Dallas”. So, it’s really goofy and fun.JENNIFER:
All the girls are giggly. Katherine Kelly Lang and I are giggly. Heather Tom (Katie) is pretty giggly, too, but not as giggly as Katharine and I.JOHN:
Heather came in with two copies of a magazine that had someone else on the cover besides Forrester. She came in and her first line is, “Have you seen these?” And we’re talking about PR, and she’s wearing this pretty low cut dress. She came in and put the magazines down and said, “Have you seen these?” (He laughs) She is such a funny girl.To hear this audio snippet, click back to The Global sections,
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How is it rolling around together in bed, on screen? Is it fun?JENNIFER:
Yeah, sure it is. Why not?JOHN:
We have to have a matter of fact, point of view about it. You can’t be 17 years old and come in here and be naked in a tube top, and come into a bedroom scene.JENNIFER:
I think on Monday, I got too into it. I think I forgot where I was.TV SOAP:
What can we tell fans to look forward to from Donna in the coming months?JENNIFER:
Look for Donna to stand up to Stephanie, and stomp her into the ground.TV SOAP:
And Eric?JOHN:
Look for Eric to tell Stephanie to get a room somewhere.TV SOAP:
Jennifer, in a few words describe John McCook. John is…?JENNIFER:
Funny, silly, handsome, good kisser… did I say that? I am embarrassed!TV SOAP:
And John, describe for us Jennifer Gareis.JOHN:
She is a sexy girl! I love that she has opened her creative side to playing this woman, and being touched in a different way in the character, than she has done before. I have seen all of her stuff and she is a sexy girl, and I love what she is doing with this material. I love what we get to do together. She is not only sexy and beautiful; she is conscientious and working really hard on it.TV SOAP:
What is better… being on the front burner or back burner with storyline?JENNIFER:
Front, front, front.JOHN:
Front, for me, too. I want to be out front all the time.JENNIFER:
It makes me feel anxious when I am not.JOHN:
You go, “Oh my God, now that I am this age, am I less important to the show than I was ten years ago?” That happens, too. We are all children and we are afraid when we are not being used. When I am on the back burner, it bores me. I love to come in and work, even when I am on the back burner, if I am being cavalier about it.JENNIFER:
I guess the thing is, being on the back burner helped me with school. I am half way through my MBA, and now I don’t have time to continue it at the moment because of the new storyline.TV SOAP:
In the soap world, you never really know from week to week, month to month, what direction your character may go. How do you deal with that aspect of being a soap actor, and the insecurity it can bring?JENNIFER:
You’ve got to take it one day at a time and one week at a time.JOHN:
The cliché is true. If Eric is having pain in his heart before dinner; you better call your agent!TV SOAP:
What do you think Donna thinks of Thorne/Katie’s budding romance?JENNIFER:
I think if it hadn’t been for Katie breaking up the wedding, I wouldn’t have met Eric, so I don’t think I can be too upset. It’s not like I really loved Thorne. So, when you are really not in love with someone, there is not that weird jealousy thing going on.TV SOAP:
Can you see the four of them, Katie, Thorne, Donna and Eric, having dinner together?JOHN:
That would be an interesting dialog.JENNIFER:
Yeah, I think it’s fine. As long as Donna gets her way, Katie can do what she wants.JOHN:
Once in awhile I think, “This is a silly thing for an adult to do for a living!”
Days Of Our Lives
Matthew Ashford and Melissa Reeves Talk Return to DAYS for Doug’s Funeral, Susan Seaforth Hayes, and Their Enduring Friendship
Last week, Days of our Lives celebrated the taping of their 15,000th episode which is tentatively scheduled to air on December 3rd. The story will feature emotional and heart-tugging scenes of Doug Williams funeral and honor his portrayer, the beloved Bill Hayes, who passed away on January 12th at the age of 98.
While the actors, producers, and crew took a lunch time break to pose for some pictures and speak with the press, they knew they would have to get back to taping the funeral, which was going to make it a tough day, but also cathartic for all who loved Bill Hayes.
Several returns have thus far been announced including; Melissa Reeves reprising her signature role of Jennifer Horton (a part she first played in 1985), and Matthew Ashford as Jack Deveraux. Reeves had last appeared on the show back in 2021, and she was replaced by Emmy-winner Cady McClain in her absence when Jennifer was in storylines. In real-life, Melissa had moved full-time to Tennessee along with her husband, Scott Reeves (ex-DAYS, GH, Y&R). Now, and as previously reported, Reeves will first appear back on DAYS for the Thanksgiving episodes with the Hortons.
Michael Fairman TV caught up with Matt and Melissa during the 15,000th episode celebration to get their take on: being back for these special episodes, how it has been working with and watching Susan Seaforth Hayes portray Julie’s grief over losing Doug, and how they have supported each other through the years. Check out what they shared below.
Melissa, you are back on the set of Days of our Lives for this very emotional and special moment in the series history. How does it feel?
MELISSA: Oh, my goodness. I am honored. I wouldn’t want to be anywhere else but to be here for Bill. He was like my real-life dance partner. He taught me how to ballroom dance. And to be here for Susan, of course, who’s just been our sweet hero this whole week. We’re just following her lead. She’s just been this incredibly strong example for us in the midst of this trial and season of her life. She is like just lifting us all up with her. It’s been incredible.
I was at Bill Hayes memorial service which was truly incredible and I know at the time you were in Tennessee. It was moving and celebratory of his life, all at the same time.
MELISSA: That’s all I have heard. I have to watch it on You Tube. They said it was just a real celebration of his life and I love that.
This must be difficult for Susan Seaforth Hayes depicting the death of Doug, when she is still grieving the loss of her beloved husband. (Susan pictured above with the returning Stephen Schnetzer who plays her on-screen brother, Steve Olson).
MELISSA: I’m sure Susan has those moments at home by herself, but she’s so good at being a leader and leading all of us. We’re following her, you know, and she’s like, “This is how I want to feel today.” And we’re just going along with her, you know? It’s so sweet.
How is it to see Matt Ashford again live and in-person?
MELISSA: You know, Matt and I can go years without talking, or seeing each other, and then the minute we see each other we’re chatting away.
MATT: Melissa was out on set doing a scene yesterday on the phone talking to a stage manager; as she was telling some really tough news on the phone. I’m like crying in the background, literally, I’m off-stage crying.
MELISSA: And then we get like back into normal life, and we’re like, okay, “What’s happening? What’s happening with this … or what’s happening with that?”
I had read, Melissa, that you were in touch with Matt about if there night be a possibility for you to reprise your role as Jennifer for these special episodes?
MELISSA: Yes. Well, Matt was like, “Hey! Would you want to come back? “And I was like, “Matt, you know, I would always come back. ”
MATT: Every time I come here to Days of our Lives, they ask, “Where’s Missy? How’s Missy?” Everybody backstage says, “I miss her.” All of the crew is asking about her and saying, “It would be nice to see Missy. Nothing wrong with you Matt, but …” They said, “Where is she?” I said, “She wants to come!”
There are some beautiful photos of Missy and Bill and Susan thorough the years that I found. It just reminded me of just the deep and entrenched history we all have had with the show, personally and professionally.
MATT: Missy is roughly the age where Francis Reid (ex-Alice Horton) was when she started the show, which is just crazy.
I’ve always said Missy was going to be the next generation Alice. Do you feel that Jennifer is the heir apparent matriarch of the Horton family?
MELISSA: Yes. I mean, this has been greatest blessing of my life, and that would be great. I told Ken Corday (executive producer, Days of our Lives) when I was 17 that this show would be my life. Ken always told me, “This is your home,” and I’ve always felt like that.
How have gotten through the scenes watching Susan Seaforth Hayes as Julie go through the loss of Doug?
MATT: Susan is bringing her best performance life for her and Bill. I mean, she’s a showbiz baby. She always has been one hundred percent, and she’s doing it for him, and this is who they’ve always been. So, you’re seeing this amazing performance colored by her life. She has her private life as Susan, but she has enough plugged into Julie that she’s done amazing work. The director, producers and writers are giving her room to live in these moments and it’s quite wonderful.
Have you already broken down in tears during the taping?
MELISSA: Yesterday, but today’s taping of the actual funeral I think they want us to try and be just more celebratory.
MATT: I mean, it is a beautiful long life for Bill Hayes and his character of Doug Williams, and so it will be about that. Then, you get a bunch of us together in the church pews, and there’s going to be hijinks.
MELISSA: We all have been through the waves of grief. You have that awful cry and then all of a sudden you feel okay. There are those family situations we are portraying where you’re like, “What do we do? What do we do now? You know, no one knows what to do. But, it’s so sweet. I’m looking forward to seeing how the scenes all turn out.
So, are you glad that Matt and Melissa are back for the 15K episode and Doug’s funeral? From what we can tell, it’s going to be quite an emotional journey for Days of our Lives fans, and especially the performance of Susan Seaforth Hayes,
Days Of Our Lives
Ron Carlivati Talks on Decision to Make Days of our Lives 15000th Episode About Doug’s Funeral, and Previews Chances for WGA Award
This week, Days of our Lives celebrated the taping of their 15,000th episode. In of it itself, that is an incredible accomplishment for the long-running soap opera currently streaming on Peacock.
However, this on set gathering was a bit different. Though the show is celebrating their achievement, they are also in the middle of taping scenes surrounding the death and the funeral of Doug Williams, played by the late Bill Hayes, who passed away on January 12th of this year at the age of 98.
As previously revealed many longtime favorites are back to honor Bill and the character of Doug including: Gloria Loring (Liz), Melissa Reeves (Jennifer), Matthew Ashford (Jack), Maree Cheatham (Marie), Victoria Konefal (Ciara) and Stephen Schnetzer (Steve) to name but a few.
Michael Fairman TV was in attendance and spoke with Days of our Lives head writer, Ron Carlivati to gain some insight into how the 15,000 episode was crafted and the decision to honor the character of Doug Williams and Bill Hayes as its epicenter. In addition, Ron weighed-in on this Sunday’s April 14th WGA (Writers Guild of America) Awards, where he and his writing team are facing off with General Hospital for the daytime drama prize. Here’s what Ron shared below.
Was this your idea to make the 15,000th episode centered around Doug’s funeral and passing?
RON: It was. When you’re looking at it, and laying out the calendar for the whole year and you see 15,000 is coming up, we’re like, “What are we going to do?” And then, we got the news that Bill had passed away and something kind of clicked. I was like, “We should honor Doug on that show.” So then, we started to kind of build around that … when does he pass away? How does he pass away? Who could come back? You know, it’s a lot. I’m very pleased with the returns that we got as there’s so much that you could do. We wanted everybody we could get. So, we put together a wish list and Janet Drucker (co-executive producer, Days of our Lives) made it happen.
You have Melissa Reeves back as Jennifer, when the role was last played by Cady McClain. What has it meant to have Missy back for these shows?
RON: It was so nice to see Missy Reeves. I think Cady has done such a good job, but on the 15,000th episode to see Missy as Jennifer, it’s a big deal. So having her was great, and overall, the milestone was a big undertaking, because you want to live up to it. You want the 15,000th episode to be good. Now, it has a lot of real emotion that you’re playing. because for the cast and the crew they’re honoring Bill Hayes just as much as we’re honoring Doug Williams.
Was it hard for you and the team to write this episode?
RON: Yes. I’ll tell you why it was hard to write. When I wrote, for example, Asa’s (Phillip Carey) death on One Life to Live or Victor’s (John Aniston) on DAYS, Asa is a different type of character. Like, you could have characters going, “Oh! I’m glad he is dead.” You could have different points of view, but with Doug, you’re not having that. Every person loves this man. No one had a bad relationship with him. So, you’re challenge as a writer is how do you make it that not everybody’s saying the same thing and doing the same thing. And so, we tried to find ways to make the episode about all the familial relationships and yet, how do you make it about Doug and yet broaden the scope.
I had spoken to Susan Seaforth Hayes (Julie), a week after Bill’s memorial, for an interview. She said that she felt very fortunate that you did include her on discussions of how you would tackle Doug’s passing. How did that conversation go?
RON: First, I attended Bill’s funeral, which was incredible. I said to so many people it was an emotional service, but it was hard to be sad at this. The guy had an incredible life and it was an incredible celebration. And so, you’re sitting there watching this knowing that you now have to write something similar. And how do you write something that lives up to what you just witnessed? I wanted to talk to Susan to get her thoughts about, you know, how much do you want this to be about keeping Bill separate from Doug. How comfortable are you sharing your grief. She was incredible to talk to. It was a great chat.
You’re in the middle of taping these major scenes for the 15,000 episode to air in December. How do you think it’s going? Have you seen any of the scenes?
RON: I haven’t seeing anything. I mean, we were still making changes to the script up till this morning!
The Writers Guild Awards are this Sunday, April 14th and once again this year there are two daytime drama nominees, General Hospital and Days of our Lives. How are you feeling about your chances this year?
RON: It is often just GH and us in the category. I’ve won three years in a row, so I’m kind of feeling like it’s their turn.
What episodes did you submit for contention? If I recall, they had to do with Victor’s memorial.
RON: The episodes we submitted were centered around Victor’s funeral. I think one has story with Vivian (Louise Sorel). We had some fun stuff, we had some emotional stuff at Victor’s death, and I am pretty sure that our submission was three episodes right around that time.
Did you make the decision to go with those episodes because there was a mix of humor and drama?
RON: I like to have some humor, but it was also the funeral, then there’s Sarah (Linsey Godfrey) giving birth, and then Vivian’s crashing the reading of the will. So, we had a lot of fun and it’s hard sometimes to pick three that tell a story, as opposed to submitting for the Daytime Emmys, where the writing team only submits two shows. So, we shall see how it goes on Sunday.
So, are you looking forward to the emotional 15,000th episode of Days of our Lives? Do you think DAYS will take home the WGA writing award for daytime dramas for the 4th year in a row? Comment below.
Days Of Our Lives
(INTERVIEW) Eric Martsolf Previews DAYS Stars on ‘Weakest Link’, How He Fared in the Game, Plus Welcoming New Tate, Leo Howard
Tuesday night on NBC’s Weakest Link (9 p.m. ET/PT), the stars of Days our of Lives test their knowledge, and try to win big money for the charity of their choice on the newest season of the popular game show hosted by Jane Lynch. In case you miss it, you can also catch the episode on Wednesday streaming on Peacock.
The question on everyone’s mind is … who will be revealed as Salem’s weakest link? Who will be left standing at the end of the game? DAYS favorites: Eric Martsolf (Brady) Brynn Dattilo (Lucas), Galen Gering (Rafe), Martha Madison (Belle), Victoria Konefal (ex-Ciara), Zach Tinker (Sonny), Tina Huang (Melinda) and Lindsay Arnold (ex-Allie) play while literally having the task of throwing their co-stars under the bus. The contestant who receives the highest number of votes leaves the game throughout, as Lynch declares their exit with the now iconic phrase, “You are the Weakest Link. Goodbye.”
Michael Fairman TV caught up with Eric Martsolf, who daytime fans know is great as a host in his own right and oh-so-fun at playing any trivia game you throw at him. Martsolf gave us the inside scoop of what it was like to be on the set and backstage in a rather nerve-wracking environment, and trying to come off as smart while Jane Lynch roasts you at the same time!
In addition, Eric shared his thoughts on the new Tate, as Leo Howard takes over the role of his on-screen son from Jamie Martin Mann on the April 5th episode of Days of our Lives, plus working with Emily O’Brien as Theresa, and the loss of the legendary Bill Hayes. Check out what Eric had to say below.
Did you know about the game before? Had you watched the original version of the Weakest Link, or this latest incarnation?
ERIC: I was very, very familiar with the game because I found, as someone who enjoys hosting, that has to be one of the best hosting gigs out there because they just have extreme liberties in belittling the contestants, and it’s all done in jest of course, but it’s great. Jane Lynch is a master.
Did you get to meet Jane Lynch before she hit the stage for the taping?
ERIC: I don’t think any of us met her prior to being on the set. So, we’re standing there behind our podiums and these cyber lights just point all in one direction. At one point when we’re out there, it was kind of a hurry up and wait thing. We’re just like, “When is this going to start?” Then, here Jane comes and in all her glory in a beautiful navy-blue suit. She just prances onto stage and just glares over at us, and starts making fun of a silly soap opera actors like you wouldn’t believe. It was just great. I’ll let the public see what how she crucified us. But it was all done in fun.
Did she crucify you?
ERIC: I don’t think anybody got out unscathed to be honest with you.
For those that don’t know the game, you try to eliminate those that are the weakest in answering questions.
ERIC: Correct, and therein lies the problem. Historically, I think the Weakest Link is comprised of contestants that don’t really know each other, and in this case, you have not only coworkers, but almost family members because we all know each other very, very well. It’s a tight circle and even more so when you’re on the same show. So, we all went in into it pretty nervous because the premise of the game is to expose the inadequacy of people’s knowledge of general facts and information. So, essentially, you’re voting each other off because you don’t think they’re as smart as you are and that they’re the least smart in the group. So, I mean, that in itself is pretty, pretty tough to swallow. It was really hard, because you have to look at your friends in the eye and go, “yeah, I don’t think you’re going to get the next couple questions. You’re not the smartest, you’re not the crispiest chip in the bag. I’m going to let you go. ”
Did you feel bad about some of the eliminations?
ERIC: At one point, without giving away any spoilers, I voted off someone that without a doubt, has more smarts and education than I do. I just felt silly. But, you know, the way the game was going, I just felt it was the right. There is a bit of strategy involved. I’m worried about the airing of this particular episode because I did fumble some questions that people are going to turn their heads and go, “Really? You didn’t get that one?” It’s so much easier to answer these questions at home in your pajamas than it is, you know, looking at Jane Lynch in the eye with 6,000 lights at your face in front of cameras. Your brain tends to wander. So yes, we all had had some answers that we couldn’t believe we didn’t get at the time!
Did it get very competitive?
ERIC: There was little competition there. If I recall, it’s Galen and Bryan that went at it a little bit and had some laughs. But again, I can’t stress this enough, it was all done with fun. At the end of the day, every one of us wanted to win. I think the smartest person did actually come out victorious.
Now in the game, for those that have never seen it, you’re on your podium, and then Jane gives a question, right?
ERIC: It’s a firing squad of questions. You only have a certain amount of time to answer. If you get the correct answer or the wrong answer, you immediately, go to the next contestant and you have a certain amount of time. And then, at the end of that line of questioning, everyone gets to vote as to who they believed was the biggest dummy in the group. (Laughs) Some questions are simple. You know, “What color is Santa Claus’ suit?” And then, the next question is “What is 648,000 times 14?” or what’s the population of some obscure country? So, that was the biggest challenge. Someone else might get, “What is the main ingredient of a banana split?” And my question could be like, “How much is 9,430 times x 59 million?” There’s an intimidation factor that Jane Lynch brings to it when she’s staring you down.
When the cast finished the entire game, what happened backstage?
ERIC: The best part was there were these post interviews that the Weakest Link conducts where you have to go into a dark black room. I think my first question was, “How did you feel about that wrong answer?” They don’t let up. They just keep jabbing at you. “Did you feel ridiculous getting the wrong answer to that fourth-grade level question?” (Laughs) There was also a lot of trash talk with that happened after the show. It got so competitive. If I recall, we were all supposed to go out together and get a meal with everybody, and that never happened. They’re like, “I’m not eating lasagna with you right now. You just voted me off!” Now, even the first person that gets voted off, you’re going to be shocked, because I thought this person would probably win it. In the game, you want the best people to remain on the panel because that’s what drives up the money.
Later this week on DAYS, we will see the debut of your new on-screen son, Leo Howard, taking over from Jamie Martin Mann as Tate.
ERIC: How about that? I just did a post on Instagram, because I saw that Jamie Martin Mann had liked and hearted a post about Leo Howard coming on the show. I just thought that was so classy of him. That’s the way it’s supposed to be, “This is the new guy. Embrace him. He’s good. I’ve met him. He is a good guy.” It’s about handing off the character baton sometimes, sort to speak. I was really proud of those guys. I reached out to Jamie. He just wants to go to college and be a student. I understand that. That’s important.
Is that challenging for you as an actor since you’ve built this relationship with the one guy as your son, and now you’ve got to pivot and create a different kind of energy with someone else taking on the part?
ERIC: Leo Howard has been in the industry for a while, with some very good credits to his name. He brings a certain charisma to this role that I think people are really going to love. And yes, he’s older, but he plays younger, and he has that ability and he’s pulling it off brilliantly. I can’t wait for people to see him, but of course I miss Jamie. Emily O’Brien (Theresa) and I really grew to love him very quickly because the storyline got so deep, so quickly, with the drug intervention and then him getting beat up in in prison. I mean, as a father, that’s the kind of stuff that you have nightmares about, you know, your kids being in pain.
I still love the fact that Emily O’Brien is still noticeably wearing a blonde wig as Theresa. What are your thoughts on how the transition has been for you, and for her pivoting to a completely different role?
ERIC: I hadn’t worked with Emily much before, because Gwen and Brady never really crossed paths. We all saw the transition that she had to make. When I became Brady, the character hadn’t been on the map for three years. When she became Theresa, she walks out one gate and comes through the other as Theresa. We all had a good giggle about it. That’s hard to ask an audience to go, OK, I’m Gwen, now I’m Theresa.” I was scrolling through X (formerly Twitter) and I saw a couple posts from fans that said how they were really weary, at first, about accepting Emily O’Brien as Theresa. But after today’s episode, they shared, “I’m loving her as Tate’s mom, and the chemistry she has with the family.” I texted Emily and I said, “I just want to let you know that you’re just bringing it home really brilliantly, and people are starting to come around.” I think they’ll do that with Leo Howard too.
What had it been like without the iconic Bill Hayes (Doug Williams) coming to work and being part of the Days of our Lives cast since his passing?
ERIC: You really do miss that presence in the hallways. He was a song and dance guy and I am a song and dance guy. as well. I kind of find myself the lone singer in the makeup room sometimes, but I could always count on Bill. He’d be humming some old tune from the sixties. I’d start humming along and he’d just kind of lean over and take a look at me, and give a little smile. Everyone else was probably irritated at us, but we just kept singing along. and it’s like 6:30 in the morning. I think Bill was a lot like the late John Aniston (ex-Victor), in the sense that I don’t really feel like he felt he was working. He was just always having fun right up until the end. That little number he did with his wife, Susan Seaforth Hayes (Julie), and Dick Van Dyke (guest starring as Timothy Robicheaux), where he was singing along, he was just living it. It was so cute and so adorable to watch.
Your final tease for the Weakest Link tonight is, “Fans should watch because …”
ERIC: Fans should watch it because if they thought we were smart before, wait till they see the show.
You can check out the cold open for tonight’s Weakest Link “Days of our Lives special” below.
Now let us know, will you be watching Eric and his co-stars, past and present, attempting to showcase their knowledge on the ‘Weakest Link? Intrigued to see Leo Howard and Eric in scenes as new Tate and his father, Brady? Share your thoughts in the comment section.
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