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THE KYLE LOWDER INTERVIEW – THE BOLD AND THE BEAUTIFUL

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TV SOAP:
Kyle, how has it been working with Hunter Tylo (Taylor) in the new budding romance between Rick and Taylor?  Did it come as a surprise to you?

KYLE:
It has been great working with Hunter.  The switch in storyline was a bit shocking for me, because I thought the characters of Rick and Ashley were going to come about, but it’s now been interesting with the Taylor situation.  The fact that she is Phoebe’s mother and Rick and Phoebe had a relationship stirs the pot.  This show, in my opinion, has been very good at taking situations like that and making them very dramatic and believable, and not out of this world far-fetched. Working with Hunter is great!  She is such a gifted actress. The scenes with her have been fun and challenging, and we have had a good time thus far.

TV SOAP:
Challenging in the way that once again Rick is involved in an older woman/younger man romantic situation?

KYLE:
Yes.  It’s challenging because again, it’s the ‘older woman/younger man’.  Eileen Davidson (Ashley) and I would have that conversation where we would say, “I have never done this before in work and in reality.”   Hunter was the same way.  She said, “This is interesting.”  It’s definitely something new for me as well.  I had a little experience with Eileen last year.  The whole younger man/older woman thing is challenging to make work, not personally because of the actors, but the story itself.  I want to make sure that Rick going to falling in love with Phoebe, to falling in love with Ashley, to falling in love with Taylor, is believable with this character.

TV SOAP:
So, to make it work you need to justify it as an actor.  Does it concern you?

KYLE:
I have to justify it, or it becomes an actor just playing this role and playing what’s on the page.  I think at the end of the day, it could be a bit unwatchable, not because the story is poorly written.  You need a character that people can become emotional attached to and not just blow him off because he is man who has no substance to him.  I want to make Rick a guy with substance and believability, and someone a woman can get attached to; otherwise, the fans are not going to take it seriously.

TV SOAP:
Did Brad Bell (exec prod and head writer) “B&B” give you any heads up that this story with Taylor was coming?

KYLE:
I had a brief talk with Brad.  But to be honest, he did not tell me any details.  But he thought of the possibility, and the seed was planted in my head.  I never gave it too much thought till I actually started seeing the scripts.  Now, I have seen what’s going to happen, and it’s well written, and it’s up to me to get people to jump on board and become emotionally involved with it.  Otherwise, they will say, “Oh God! Rick, he is such a weirdo.”

TV SOAP:
Are you at all concerned that it may appear to viewers and fans that they keep testing the character of Rick with different females on “B&B” to see what works?

KYLE:
That’s a good question and I think about it all the time.  Especially on ”B&B” where you do not have a lot of contract players, where at “DAYS” where I came from, you have an hour-long show with 40 cast members, and the possibilities are endless.  Here at “B&B” it can turn into that.  I have heard fan on message boards saying, “Oh, they are just testing chemistry.”  They are not saying, “Oh look at this story,” and “Oh, B&B is testing again.”  I don’t want it to come across that way.

TV SOAP:
How then would you ultimately like the fans to react to the new Taylor/Rick pairing?

KYLE:
In the first script, Rick shows up at Taylor’s house to give her a gift and we see what the writers want to do, and that’s great.  It’s my job to say, “How would this really happen that somehow Rick would become interested in Taylor and fall all in love with her?”   I want to turn it from a chemistry test for the fans to, “Ooh. I like this sexy, hot story with Taylor.”   Or, they have a strong feeling that its not.   I want the fans not to just look at it as a chemistry test between two actors.  That is the challenge.

TV SOAP:
What about Phoebe?  Have you had scenes yet where she finds out that her “ex” is now dating her mother?

KYLE:
I have.  They are fresh and I have taped scenes like that.  I will say, it’s definitely on my mind, like, “What about Phoebe? What happens when the three of us have a scene together?”   It’s pretty crazy though, and I cannot divulge anything more on that.

TV SOAP:
Hunter Tylo has a very unique working style on set.  She is very committed to the work and likes to take lots of notes.  How does her style mesh with yours?
KYLE:
She does take lots of notes, and it’s inspiring.  Working with her is different and her approach is, too.   Hunter is very experienced and talented.  I love her process, and she does have a lot of notes.  She takes the dialog that’s on the page, and the scene at hand, very seriously. She goes above and beyond normalcy to make the scene very believable in her own eyes.  She takes everything to heart.  It is evident when you look at her scripts.  There is chicken scratch written all over them.

TV SOAP:
Is your process similar?

KYLE:
Mentally, I am on the same page as her, but I am not as thorough.  I try to take a situation in the script, and I spend a long time seeing how it would play out.  First, I take my own reactions on how I would react to it.  Then I see how Rick would react to it, which is more dramatic and messed up than mine, only slightly. (He laughs)  I then come up with an average between the two and go with that.  The cool thing about Hunter is we recently filmed some dramatic scenes, and I give her credit.  She was so not just standing on set and really was in the situation mentally.  She is very inspiring!

TV SOAP:
How do you think the recent writers strike affected the scripts you were getting at “B&B”?

KYLE:
If I had to formulate an opinion, because the writer’s strike was a sensitive situation and I don’t want to single out “B&B”, but daytime in general kept going.  Scripts kept coming, writers were tentative, or not entirely comfortable, not experience wise, but just going to work.  My perception of it was that the writing was a bit conservative.  I am saying on the safe side.   I am not saying the scripts were bad or good.  I am just saying, because of the tentativeness of the situation, it came through in the writing a bit.

TV SOAP:
How has Eileen Davidson reacted to the defecting of Rick to a new romance with Taylor? Was she upset?

KYLE:
We had a funny talk about that.  It’s no secret that we felt there was something there between Rick and Ashley, and quite selfishly with me and Eileen, in terms of working together.  We love to work together.  We were teased around a bit when we both first came on the show.  Then the show focused on Rick and Phoebe, which was also great. Now, we come back from the holiday and think maybe something can start up again between Rick and Ashley and we find out, no, it’s Rick and Taylor.  For Eileen, and me we were laughing.  We were saying, “Just give us story!”  Then we thought could we have an Ashley/Rick/Taylor triangle?  I don’t know.  That remains to be seen, but at the end of the day, Eileen and I do have a laugh about it, like, “C’mon! Just give us a chance. One chance, to dive head first into the pool.”

TV SOAP:
So, you were both a little upset?

KYLE:
I don’t want to say we were upset, that would be a bit dramatic. We were more tongue and cheek. We were not pissed off about it.  We just felt we dipped our toes in the water, if you will, and we just wanted to dive in and see where the story would go.

TV SOAP:
Over at “DAYS” so much has been going on behind the scenes. First, with the news that the entire writing staff at “DAYS” was just fired!

KYLE:
Oh gees!  Oh dear. I did not know this.   My wife Arianze Zuker, who played Nicole Kirkiakis, is returning to “DAYS”.

TV SOAP:
That’s great to know, but you mean your ex-wife, don’t you?

KYLE:
No, we are married.  The press kind of jumped the gun on that.  We were never divorced.  Long story short, we, like many normal people in this world, we had issues.  These issues have been resolved.  Thank God!  The press jumped the gun a little bit and our personal statements leaked out and they were never official.  We are still married.  Ariane is going back to “DAYS” in March.

TV SOAP:
Have you been watching “DAYS” and all the mentions of your former character’s name of Brady all the time?  Is something in the works to bring you back to Salem?

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KYLE:
Because Ariane was returning I have been watching “DAYS” with her, and much to my surprise, I am like, whoa!  They are talking so much about Brady and it was an issue.  People have been asking me, “What is going on with that?”  It’s kind of a surprise, because in the States it’s been in Soap Opera Digest, and they posted an article, “Is Kyle Lowder coming back to “DAYS”?  And people are calling me, and I am going, “Nothing is going on!”

TV SOAP:
So, are you saying for the record, there has been no contact with “DAYS”?

KYLE:
I do not want to say there was no contact, but from my standpoint, there is never an issue as to where I was going to be.  But, I don’t want to comment further on the details.  At the end of the day, I am here at “B&B” and I want to be here

TV SOAP:
But it must be hard to watch “DAYS” knowing they are talking so much about Brady?

KYLE:
From my standpoint, quite truthfully, if I am not going to be there, are they recasting Brady?   Because they are talking so much about him, how could they not have that character return?  It’s bizarre!  At the end of the day they will recast.

TV SOAP:
How would you feel about “DAYS” recasting the role of Brady, knowing you had originated the role?

KYLE:
I don’t know.  I don’t want to be one of those soap operas cliché actors, saying, “It’s my role.” At the end of the day, it would be hard to watch somebody else step into that role.  When you invest in any business, or part with six years of your life in an area, and somebody else takes over when your hands are tied…. it is a bit hard to swallow.

TV SOAP:
But of course, you took over the role of Rick Forrester on “B&B” from another actor, so you know what it’s like.

KYLE:
Completely!  I have said that from day one, that the recast situation in this genre is a very sensitive issue because soap fans love their stories and their characters.  My first feature in a magazine, when I came on this show, was about how I looked at the recasts on “DAYS” when I was there, in particular, with Martha Madison jumping into the role of Belle on the show.  For a major contract player on the show, I was looking at it going, “Wow. I don’t envy that situation because fans get attached to the character, and the actor playing the character.”  And that’s been from day one here at “B&B”.  I am still respectful to the character of Rick and what’s been done.  It was not my intention to come into this show and do something new with the character.  I wanted to continue the work of the previous actors, and to add my own spin to it, and not to just dominate the character.

TV SOAP:
Have you spoken to Nadia Bjorlin (Chloe, “DAYS”) about the recent developments there?

KYLE:
We have spoken a bit.  We spoke a bit before she returned to the show, and we did speak right before the holidays.  Nadia received the scripts for the storylines that are airing now on the show.  She said, “We are talking about you a lot.”  And I said, “I don’t know what you are talking about?”  I will just say I find it a little intriguing… let’s just say that.

TV SOAP:
What would you like to see happen with Rick, and what are your goals moving forward with the character?

KYLE:
My goals with Rick in general, in the zany world of endless money, high fashion, high profile, and beautiful women where ever he looks… it’s a recipe for disaster!  My goal is to keep him as likeable and charming as possible, but at the same time, to keep the edge on him to keep him from being boring.

TV SOAP:
It must be tough to try and strike the balance of not being so “goody-goody”, correct?

KYLE:
You want to be charming and likeable, but you don’t want to be the “goody-two shoes”.  I want to create a balance with him.  At the end of the day, he is a chip off the old block with his mom, Brooke.  He wears his heart on his sleeve.  He is the kind of guy who leaps before he looks, in terms of getting involved in situations.  For instance, with the Phoebe situation, he was smitten with her.  He did not look at all the factors; like the age difference, the fact that he worked with her, and the fact that they thought they were related their entire lives.  Now with the Taylor situation, he is not considering the fact that this is his ex- girlfriends mother, and this is his own mother’s long enemy.   He just doesn’t think about that stuff.

TV SOAP:
Will we get to hear you sing on the show sometime soon?

KYLE:
I don’t know.  I hope so.  It’s definitely something I’d love to do, but that remains to be seen.

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The Bold and the Beautiful’s Kimberlin Brown Teases to Fans: “There’s Something Coming Up, But It’s Not What They Think”

Sheila Carter (Kimberlin Brown) is now a married lady! Yup, after a small, very small intimate ceremony she married Deacon Sharpe (Sean Kanan) on recent episodes of The Bold and the Beautiful.

Deacon’s daughter Hope (Annika Noelle) showed up for the nuptial to support her father, but Sheila’s son, Finn (Tanner Novlan) happened by Il Giardino, to pick up some food only to stumble upon his mother’s wedding, causing more trouble in his marriage to Steffy (Jacqueline MacInnes Wood).

All of this, after Deacon figured out that Sheila didn’t really die at the hands and butcher knife of Steffy, back in February of this year, but it was really her lookalike Sugar who had plastic surgery to look like Sheila many years ago ( one of Sheila’s more heinous acts) who was killed. Thus, setting the stage for Sheila’s return.

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Kimberlin Brown visited You Tube’s Michael Fairman Channel for an exclusive livestream one-one-one chat where a myriad of “Sheila-esque” subjects were discussed.  Here are a few of the more intriguing excerpts below.

After Kimberlin was informed she was exiting the show, did she have any idea, if or how, they were going to bring her back via the Sugar connection? Brown shared “I didn’t. As a matter of fact, when Brad Bell (executive producer and head writer B&B) called me asking if I would come back to the show, I said, ‘Well, how are you gonna pull this one off?’ And he goes, ‘we’re researching it right now.’ So, I guess that’s where their research took them to Sugar, and Sugar was on The Bold and the Beautiful at one time with me as well. Remember, when we had all of the Forrester boys, and we were holding them against their will and and at the foundry? Robin Mattson played that part brilliantly, and then back on The Young and the Restless is when she ‘unfortunately’ had the surgery to look like Sheila, unbeknownst to her.”

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With Sheila being married to Deacon, does she think it will last more than a month, before her vendetta streak against others takes major hold of her? Kimberlin weighed-in, “I think for the first time in Sheila’s history, she has found a man who truly does love her. And yes, she does love him. Sheila desperately loved Eric Forrester too, but there were too many people around her that would never allow that to happen. And even though there are people around Deacon that prefer that this doesn’t happen, he’s actually stood up to them and said, ‘No, this is who I want to be with. She makes me happy. There are a lot of things that  make me a little crazy, but I go crazier when she’s not there’.  Sheila has finally found true love, I believe, and it’ll be interesting to see if she can hold onto it, and it’ll be interesting to see if a good man in her life can truly make a difference in hers.”

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Everyone has waited and hoped, that when Lauren makes cross-over appearances to B&B she will bump into Sheila, but still years later that has never happened. Brown feels it’s just a matter of time, sharing, “I believe that they will cross paths one day. It’d be too good to not have that happen. Tracey Bregman and I, really did create something fabulous together. It was at the time, villain against really not a good girl, but a girl that never wanted what she had until Sheila wanted it. So it’s definitely a storyline that I think could resurface, there’s no doubt about it.”

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Finn’s adoptive mother Li played by Naomi Matsuda may not be what she appears to be either. Might we look forward to the two moms going at it again?, Kimberlin teased, “Working with Naomi Matsuda is great. She’s fun a lot of fun to work with. But let me tell you what, Li has a mean streak. She really does. I have a feeling it may come out, or it may not, but she’s no angel herself.  She may be one calling the tea kettle black, you know?”

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Fans of B&B have come up with many scenarios of where Sheila’s story is going, from an attempted murder mystery of her, to a plan to get Hope and Finn closer together to put the screws to Steffy. Kimberlin previewed, “There’s some big stuff happening on the show coming up that. I wish I could say more.  I got the script and when we were filming it, I was going, ‘Oh my gosh, this is just too good.’ There are a lot of characters involved in it. There’s something coming up, but it’s not what they (viewers) think.”

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It’s clear that Finn wants to appease his wife, to stay away from Sheila, but seemingly can’t. “I mean, he definitely has Sheila in him. It is her son,” shared Brown.  But, I think it’s really difficult for him to be in that position. I believe that he wants to give Sheila an opportunity and wants to get to know her. He feels a pull towards her and being he doctor that he is, he wants to explore that and figure out why, be it good or bad. But, Steffy is just not going to allow that to happen. So for Finn to always being stuck in the middle is definitely going to cause conflict.”

Watch the full conversation with Kimberlin below.  Then let us know, based on Kimberlin’s comments, what do you think is the big story coming up on B&B she previewed? Share your thoughts in the comment section.

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OLTL’s Erika Slezak Recalls Viki’s Breast Cancer Battle, Pays Tribute to Andrea Evans, and Shares Heartfelt ‘Thank You’ to Those Who Reached Out on the Passing of Her Daughter, Amanda

One of the all-time classic breast cancer storylines of the soaps was that of Viki’s on One Life to Live. Back in 2000 and into 2001, the character went through many trials and tribulations trying to face the disease, which again afforded the iconic Erika Slezak to be featured in another dramatic storyline, which at the same time helped so many female viewers.

As part of last week’s virtual event, Daytime Stands Up – A Benefit for Stand Up To Cancer – We All Have a Story, Slezak chatted with co-host Michael Fairman about her remembrances of the important storyline, the passing of her co-star, Andrea Evans (ex-Tina) to breast cancer, and took a moment to address the fans and those who reached out to her following the sudden death of her daughter, Amanda Davieback at the end of January of this year.

While Erika has still been in mourning, she took the time to be a part of the night and wanted to contribute her voice to the benefit, and we cannot thank her enough.

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Speaking on how Viki dealt with her diagnosis of breast cancer, and at the time being in a relationship with a younger man, Ben (played by Mark Derwin), Erika shared, “It was a very good story to tell because Viki, who had always been strong and by herself and tough and ‘I can deal with anything’, suddenly couldn’t deal with it. She was afraid. There was the whole relationship with Ben that was going on, and she didn’t want him to be a part of it. So that was separate, and the day that Vicki checked into the hospital, the last shot was me sitting on the end of the bed, sort of my dangling my feet over it, completely alone because she didn’t want anybody else to know.”

“Ben was around in the hospital and eventually found out that she was there and wanted to be a part of her life. But she didn’t want it,” Erika added. “She couldn’t deal with it. It was a frightening thing for her because it had been caught too late to treat. She had to have a mastectomy and a reconstruction and she had never been faced with such a very personal trauma. I mean, yes, she had Niki and all the others (Viki’s alters), but this was a physical thing that she could not control. It was a very powerful story, I think.”

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One of the memorable moments from the story was when Viki sang the Gloria Gaynor hit, I Will Survive. Slezak remembers, “That was at Crossroads. She was singing to herself, I Will Survive, and she was desperately trying to believe it, as we all do when we deal with something horrible.”

In tribute to her former co-star, Andrea Evans, who started on One Life to Live as a teenager in 1978 and who died in July of 2023 at 66-years-old, Erika expressed, “Andrea grew up so beautifully and she was so talented that the person that she really was, who was a a kind and loving woman, could play so many different levels of Tina. I had such admiration for her for that. It wasn’t in her nature to be Tina, but she played the hell out of it. She really did. Her first day on the show, her hair was down to the back of her knees. She was just a kid, and she grew up to be a wonderful woman.”

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Speaking emotionally about Andrea’s personal life, Erika recalled, “I think one of the proudest moments of her life is when she got her daughter Kylie, she was so happy. Audrey, Andrea’s mother, used to bring Kylie to the studio, all the way from California she would fly in. I first met Kylie when she was a year old.  I watched her slowly grow up and it was wonderful. Andrea was a fabulous mother. I never met her husband Steve. I wrote to him after she passed, and he wrote me back a very, very sweet letter. But when Andrea met Steve, it was like her life was almost complete, and then she had Kylie, and that was complete. And it is so, so sad that she died so young.”

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During the conversation, Erika took a second to acknowledge all those who contacted her with their condolences, thoughts and prayers on the passing of her daughter, Amanda, sharing, “I thank all the fans and the people who have written to me. I’ve saved every single card. I’ve responded to every single person because the amount of people who reached out to me is just astonishing. I have a pile that it’s two feet high of cards and letters that people wrote to me. And I’m very, very grateful because this is the hardest thing that’s ever happened to me in my life.”

You can watch the conversation with Erika below on the replay of Daytime Stands Up – A Benefit for Stand Up to Cancer. The six-time Daytime Emmy-winner appears at the 34:17 mark in the show. Below that is a playlist of scenes from Viki’s breast cancer storyline on One Life to Live.

Now let us know, what did you think of Viki’s breast cancer storyline? Erika’s words on the late Andrea Evans and her “thank you” to all for sending their condolences to her and her family during their difficult time? Share your thoughts in the comment section.

 

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Y&R’s Eileen Davidson Talks on Ashley’s DID Storyline, the Challenges of the Alters, and Working with Trevor St. John

The Young and the Restless two-time Daytime Emmy-winning actress, Eileen Davidson, has recently been given the ball by series executive producer and head writer, Josh Griffith to tell the ltin the latest of Ashley Abbott’s emotional struggles. This time, Ashley has splintered into multiple personalities: Ash, Mrs. Abbott, and Belle.

Given Ashley’s history (which has included several mental breakdowns), Y&R has chosen to revisit her psyche in a brand new twist in 2024 by launching a Dissociative Identify Disorder storyline. When things spiraled downward to her marriage to Tucker (Trevor St. John), and a flashback to a car crash which took her unborn baby in 2003, Ashley began to hear voices in her head and her alters began to emerge.

Speaking live on a virtual appearance on Tuesday on You Tube’s Michael Fairman Channel, Davidson shared her thoughts on the storyline, how she crafted Ashley’s various alters and what she thinks of her co-star, Trevor St. John.  Here’s a few key remarks from the chat below.

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Eileen talked about Ashley’s overall emotional make-up, explaining, “Everybody always talks about her being so strong and so together, and they don’t like seeing her weak. I’m like, ‘Ashley’s never been as strong and together. She’s had issues from the gate out of the gate … years … forever.’  She had amnesia. She had all sorts of issues. I love her fallibility and her vulnerability.”

Taking on the different personalities is a challenge, but Davidson pointed to one, in particular, that she feels is the hardest to play, “Ash has been the most difficult one,” explained the actress. “Because I didn’t want to do anything too broad and too ‘teenagery.’  So it was just trying to be honest about somebody who’s kind of young and sees the world in a certain way and is perhaps defensive and is an angry teen.”

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However, embodying Ms. Abbott was a lot easier for Davidson. “It wasn’t hard for me to figure her out,” she expressed. “It was the very first time she was introduced on paper. She’s in Tucker’s hotel room. She’s breaks in. I’m like, ‘Okay. she’s sitting in the chair and it, it says kind of like a ‘Sharon Stone-type moment.’  I felt pretty comfortable embodying that in control, kind of toying with a man. She knows how to put on vulnerability and softness to get what she wants, but is always in control. And her ugly side shows more and more as the story has been coming out.”

The newest alter to emerge was Belle. Davidson shared how much she knew of the alter before she began playing her, stating, “They gave me southern, flirtatious, likes tequila, and always looking for a guy’ and I was off to the races. It’s been really, really fun for me. I didn’t want her to sound like she’s from the South completely, because Ashley is not from the South. It’s just a persona of how Ashley thinks a southern person sounds. So, she’s not playing a southern character. She’s playing a personality that thinks she’s southern. It’s very different.”

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Currently, it looks like Tucker’s life may be on the line as Ashley’s alters want to get rid of him once and for all.  Eileen explained why, revealing, “The most fascinating thing about DID and what I kept trying to inject into the performance is these alters are created to protect somebody. They all believe they’re protecting Ashley. Ms, Abbott thinks the way to protect Ashley is to kill Tucker because Tucker’s caused Ashley so much pain. So I mean, from that aspect, it’s good daytime drama.”

A lot of times in DID storylines, a very traumatic event from the childhood is revealed which caused a person to fracture into a multiple personalties. When Davidson was asked if she thinks something will come to light that the audience never knew happened to Ashley, she responded, “You would think so, right?  I mean, why not? The one thing that’s true about Ashley is that she had a traumatic childhood. Her mother abandoned her when she was very young, and then found out in her early twenties that her father wasn’t her biological father. So, who knows what happened. Whether or not they choose to explore that, I’m not sure. You have to kind of keep reinventing things to keep them interesting. I think like that stands true for characters (on a soap) as well.”

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Over the years, Eileen has worked with several leading men. When asked how she feels the dynamic is working with Trevor St. John, she enthused, “I love working with Trevor. I just told him you breathe fresh air into the scenes. We work well together. We don’t really know what the other one’s going to do (in a scene), but we play off of each other. There’s a huge trust factor and that has been there from the get-go. When I first started working with Treb, I told him, ‘We got lucky.’ When you meet somebody out of the the blue and you start working together, we just had something and it just worked beautifully. I always know that when I work with Trevor, it’s going to be a terrific experience.”

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Watch the full conversation with Eileen below.

Now let us know, which of Ashely’s alters do you enjoy seeing the most? Do you think something happened to Ashley as a child that we never knew about that is causing her DID? Share your theories via the comment section below.

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