Interviews
The Michelle Stafford Interview – The Young and the Restless & The Stafford Project

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This past Friday, fans and viewers of The Young and the Restless were dealt a real blow when two-time Daytime Emmy winner, and one of the series leading characters, exited the series! We are speaking of the one and only Michelle Stafford … and … the one and only Phyllis Summers Newman! After almost 16 years with the CBS soap, Stafford’s Phyllis was put in a coma, and needed to be transferred to a facility in Georgia, which keeps her close to her son, Daniel (Michael Graziadei, who returned to the series to help facilitate Stafford’s exit). While many are unhappy of the way Phyllis has been written off, it leaves the door open … if Michelle Stafford was to ever decide to return, or if the powers-that-be at Y&R decide to recast. But as one chapter closes, another chapter begins in life, and that next chapter has started for one of the most extraordinary actresses in this medium, or any other!
Today, Michelle launched her new web series, The Stafford Project,which in many ways mirrors moments in Stafford’s own life, but with a twist, in this reality/comedy hybrid which was born out of Michelle’s real life struggles to have a child, which she ultimately did via surrogacy … and thus gave us one of The Stafford Project’s most precious co-stars, Michelle’s daughter, Natalia! Plus, The Stafford Project, whose lead character is an actress named “Michelle” who appears on a soap opera, will also look at juggling aspects of life and the dating scene by “doing it as single chick”, as is Michelle Stafford’s mantra in her new website www.michellestafford.com, which features blogs about: parenting, men, dating, style, fitness and more! (You can also access The Stafford Project there too!)
On-Air On-Soaps chatted with Michelle, just as fans were seeing her final airdate on Y&R, to get her reaction on her decision to depart the series, and the way Phyllis was written-out, and how The Stafford Project became its own reality. Next, we take a look back at some of the key on-screen relationships for Genoa City’s fiery Phyllis, including: Sharon, Jack, Summer, Ronan, and Nick! And in true soap opera fashion, there are several cliffhangers for Michelle Stafford and her fans: Will we see her on another soap? Will she land her own primetime sitcom? Will The Stafford Project become one of the most viewed and personally minted web series of them all? While we wait for those answers to unfold, enjoy our conversation with Michelle, or shall we say, the coolest chick we know!
MICHAEL:
Last Friday was your final airdate on The Young and the Restless! How do you feel about that when it actually came to pass? Did you watch the episode? Was it at all emotional for you?
MICHELLE:
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I saw a bit of it, and she is very calm and comatose. Phyllis is very asleep. (Laughs) I don’t have an emotional tie to the character, I just don’t. I have an emotional tie to the fans though, but not to the character, because I am an actress, and I want to play a bunch of different things. And, that is what we do as actors … we create a bunch of different characters. I am connected to what the fans care about. It is very important to me how they feel. That is why I did “Phyllis Friday” on Twitter and answered some questions. I am on Twitter a lot promoting The Stafford Project, and it on the web, so you want to touch people already on the web. I care about what they think, and a lot of them are upset about me leaving. And, I am sure there are some that are not upset. (Laughs)
MICHAEL:
Your fans have been so upset about your departing Y&R, but support you on your new ventures, and the new opportunities that will arise for you. At On-Air On-Soaps on the posts concerning your exit, many have written such touching words, and many telling you how sad they are that you have left the show. How does it feel to have such a strong and passionate fan base?
MICHELLE:
It is so nice. It was sad when I saw part of Friday’s episode. And if you were really a fan of that character, it would be really upsetting. I have watched soaps growing up, and I remember I watched Ryan’s Hope, and I loved Delia (originally played by Ilene Kristen) so much, and when she left the show that was it for me. Actually, that wasn’t it. They recast the role with another actress, and so I said, “Nope!” And I was done. I was really was way too young to be watching soaps at the time, but I just loved the character so much, and so it was upsetting for me. Also on Y&R, Phyllis is in a hospital, and she is in a coma, and you want to hear from her. You want to hear Phyllis yell at people, and fight back, and she is not doing that. I think that would be upsetting for fans of the character.
MICHAEL:
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So after Sharon and Phyllis’s war of words, Phyllis falls down the stairs. And since that point, literally scene after scene, you were just lying in a hospital bed … just lying there! Was that ridiculous to you? Or, did you say to yourself, “I am doing my job…etc”?
MICHELLE:
I am doing the job … and the job is for me to lay here, right? (Laughs) I do understand that viewpoint and people have told me that on Twitter that they were very mad that I was lying there, but you know, Y&R wanted to put the character in a coma, and it was actually a pretty nice gesture on their part. They just wanted to make it so the role is still there, if I ever was to change my mind and come back. I don’t feel like they should be blamed. Of course, they could have had the character leave town too, or lose her mind and leave town…
MICHAEL:
But having Phyllis exit this way provided a secret for the other characters, and kept story going, so you can see why Y&R chose to do something like that.
MICHELLE:
Yeah. It provides more story for the people remaining on the show, and that’s true. Also, it also provided no one knowing about what really happened …. no one knows except Phyllis. Sharon was looking through the window and Phyllis freaked out and then that was it … and then I had my massive seizure! (Laughs)MICHAEL:
How was you last day at The Young and the Restless?
MICHELLE:
I was nervous. It was not an overnight decision, and there were a lot of personal reasons, that of course I am going to keep to myself. Even if I told everyone all the reasons, they would still speculate. (Laughs) I felt like this is it. I went to work and I was on instagram doing a whole countdown on it, and I felt nervous like, “Am I going to lose it?” And, I didn’t. It was very sweet, and people were lovely. They all wished me well, and Y&R writers Brent Boyd and Josh Griffith came to the party, and CBS Daytime’s Margo Wain came to the party. Everybody was really cool.
MICHAEL:
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Did you feel when you walked out of the studio (after nearly 16 years of playing this one-of-a-kind character) that you had done everything you could have done with Phyllis?
MICHELLE:
For me, I feel that way. I am sure if they choose to bring the character back and have somebody else play her, there is a whole new thing they could do, just because there is another actor. They bring something different to the role. It’s a tough character, and usually villains who turn nice it’s a tougher character to write for, because you are always sort of walking the line between good and bad. I felt like that was it for me with that character. I think that sometimes you want to do something in your life, and life presents itself, and you go, “This is the time for me to do something,” and that is how it kind of all worked out. This is not to be taken at all that I did not want to work on the show because of the new EP, Jill Farren Phelps, and head writer, Josh Griffith. I am a big fan of Josh’s and he was on the show before, and it was great. I think that my sister getting sick, and the contract coming up a few months after made me realize that there is a time in an actor’s career that sometimes you think, “If I don’t jump off the cliff right now, I may never do it.” I don’t look at the job at Y&R as being stuck, I don’t, but there were so many things that I desire to do as an actor, and so many goals that I had, that I just thought maybe now is the time to jump. And that is mainly it. It all sort of came together at one time, and I was like, “You know what? Let’s just jump off, now!” And so, I did!
MICHAEL:
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In your lifetime, you have been thrown so many things to deal with, and to overcome, and so many obstacles, and the fights you have had to fight. So, when I saw your new web series, The Stafford Project, it made me smile, because knowing you as I do, there was a realism to the ridiculousness of the real life situations that happened to you. I thought it was well done! You were playing a version of yourself within these real-life moments that happened to you!
MICHELLE:
The whole situation was so intense and so insane trying to have a kid, and the doctor’s appointments and the surgeries, which I had documented and filmed in my real life. It was so crazy, and every time I turned around it was so oppressive. Then when Natalia was born new things occurred, and I thought this was also nuts, being a single working mom to this kid, and going out and dating. Then I talked to my friend Paige, who is one of the producers on the Stafford Project, and I said to her, “Let me pitch this to you!” I said, “I really want to write a comedy web series in the vain of The Larry Sanders Show, where he is trying to keep it all together with the crazies around him. I want it to be that she is just trying to keep it together, and every time she jumps off, she meets a crazy.” Paige thought it was awesome, and wanted to get her writing partner in on it, Paige Long. We just jumped in, and Paige and Paige’s comedy is just awesome! I did the scenarios and I have very specific lines I wanted to use. So I said, “These lines have to be in it, and it has to go like this…” That is why all three of us are writers on the series. (Laughs)
MICHAEL:
And then … who knew? Your daughter, Natalia was a scene-stealer!
MICHELLE:
Well, I did of course! (Laughs) She was so professional. She did not whine, or bitch, or do anything. In the second episode of The Stafford Project, Natalia is totally improving with me. I am like, “Geez, look at this kid!” I have an actress on my hands. If she wants to go down that path, I am going to have her originate it; I am not going to push it. But if she says to me, “Hey, I want to do this acting thing,” I just feel if your child excels, or is gifted in an area, you should cultivate that. I do see an actress in my kid … and it is tormenting to say! (Laughs)
MICHAEL:
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In the first episode of The Stafford Project, I loved when the reality show producer popped up in the backseat of the car with the “mulatto” line, while “Michelle” is trying to explain about her surrogate, who was actually mixed-race or bi-racial!
MICHELLE:
Did you not almost die? (Laughs) You know all those comments that he made are comments that were truly said to me like, “Well, your kid is going to be mulatto!” I said, “Well no, it’s my egg.” And they would go, “Oh no, well he or she will still be black!”… and other various racial comments. And as the show continues on, the third episode is a flashback episode of what I went through, and it’s pretty cool. As we go along, we enter more into her job and the shenanigans at the show she works at. It’s Michelle Stafford, and she is on a soap, but we never mention the name of the show. It’s not Y&R. And, the character she plays is named “Francis”. I make it very clear we not goofing on soap operas; we are goofing on actors, which is completely fine! (Laughs). So we are goofing on actors, and the human condition. There is a surprise guest in episode four, and the person is awesome and amazing, and people are totally going to dig it. We have shot four episodes thus far, and we are going to keep doing them until people say, “Please stop doing it!” (Laughs) I think we are going to release them every three weeks, and you are talking to the main producer here! (Laughs)
MICHAEL:
Do you think it’s hard in Hollywood for a soap actress to be considered for primetime or motion pictures roles? Is there still the stigma?
MICHELLE:
I think it’s very hard for a soap opera actress to be many times viewed as a serious actor. There is just an idea out there … there just is! It’s wrong, but you have to break through it like with anything, and be funny, and that is one thing I know I am.
MICHAEL:
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Would you love to have a sitcom? Remember, when Judith Light went from doing Karen Wolek and her stunning courtroom confession on One Life to Live to becoming Angela Bowers on Who’s The Boss?
MICHELLE:
Well, yeah you could make a lot of money! (Laughs) I loved Judith on One Life to Live.
MICHAEL:
Your new website is also very clever, and has great branding to it, especially the tag line, “Doing it as a single chick”!
MICHELLE:
I came up with that hash tag on instagram and people started using it like crazy. People would say, “I’m doing it as a single chick too,” and others would say, “I am married and I am doing it as a single chick!” (Laughs) Listen, I found there is such a large group of women who are on the web who are working their asses off. They are either single mothers, or married and handling the entire household and working, and the ones who are still single are out there still dating. It’s a lot to juggle, man. Back in the day, just taking care of the kids in the house was your only job, and that was a huge job in itself. That is a lot of hats to wear, but my take on it is: I am doing the same thing, but I am just making it funny. And, the blogs will be funny on the website, and it will be a portal into my life at how I am being a hot bitch in my forties getting my groove on, and taking care of my kid, and being a mom at the same time.
MICHAEL:
The blog piece you wrote on men on your website, that actually men get a bad rap, I thought was terrific. We all hate on guys a lot, and they don’t deserve it … well, not all the time!
MICHELLE:
I wanted it to be very gay friendly, too. That can apply to my boys too, and it can apply to a lesbian too… it is all of us out there. The guys do get shit on. Sometimes I read these blogs, and they are so linear, and it is just for a mom who is married with a husband and has everything taken care of for her. And I think, “Wow, you are not even writing for a chick who is single, and who works and who is trying to live her life, and you are not writing for a woman who is celebrating how hot she is!” (Laughs) I love making women feel like they are important. I love making people feel important. It is a tough gig out there in life. Everybody is just trying to do the best job they can. I really want to give to people, and make them feel validated, and make them laugh. I am really excited about the site.
MICHAEL:
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Alison Sweeney (Sami) of Days of our Lives has been extremely successful building her brand from first: her soap career, to hosting Biggest Loser, to her website, to all her other projects. What do you think of how she cultivated her audience, and how she speaks to women?
MICHELLE:
Alison is a smart girl, and an ambitious gal, and she got it. I also think she had something to say. I think she understood, and that would attract women who had a problem with their weight too, and that is a huge thing. The blog I have on my website on weight, that is the most asked question; “How do I keep my body in such good shape?” It’s an interesting thing that body image is so on the forefront of women’s minds.
MICHAEL:
You also talk about dating experiences in The Stafford Project, and on your website. How is dating going for you now that Natalia is a three-year old?
MICHELLE:
I was dating this guy recently and he started spending the night, and I was really like, “Oh, my God, I am a filthy whore!” (Laughs) I was like, “You can’t be here when my daughter’s here! You cannot be here!” So my mom takes my daughter every Friday. So I suppose whoever wants to have sex with me, it’s only going to happen on Friday or Saturday when my mom has Natalia! (Laughs) But it’s going to be really good; it’s going to be a Mardi Gras! (Laughs) It is very legitimate question you ask. I think I am better about it now! (Laughs)
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MICHAEL:
As a wrap-up to your time on The Young and the Restless, let’s take a look at some of the key relationships you have had on the show. You and Sharon Case (Sharon) have this long standing rivalry as Sharon and Phyllis. How do you feel that relationship played out on-air?
MICHELLE:
I wish that we had more of it. I liked it. I think it worked. It was really great with Sharon Case and me, because we really understand the viewpoints of our characters. When we did the scenes both of us actors knew how we felt going on into the scene and about each other. So there is never any fear of “I don’t want to be mean to you” because some actor will pull back with those emotions. She and I never did that. I am not Phyllis, you know? I am OK screaming at you, because I am just playing a role. I don’t mean anything by it. Sometimes actors will back off of each other, and Sharon and I never did that to one another, and I think that showed. It was very real to people that these two women had such jealousy of each other, and there was so much emotion born from the death of a child, and the husband leaving. It was such a great real story. I loved Sharon and Phyllis’ relationship. It was vicious and very real.
MICHAEL:
How did you feel when they told you that they were going to SORAS your on-screen daughter, Summer, to 18? And, how Hunter King (Summer) has done in the role? She has done an amazing job over the last few months! She has an Emmy reel for next year, for sure.
MICHELLE:
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Well, they aged Summer before Hunter, and they kept aging her. And, so we had a baby, then we had a two-year-old, then we had a five-year-old, then we had an 8-year-old, and then an 18-year-old, and Hunter. Hunter is great, and such a little doll, and I love her. She has a great career ahead of her. I miss my little Hunter. I cannot say enough nice things about her.
MICHAEL:
At the end of your run on Y&R, Phyllis was once again paired with Jack (Peter Bergman). What were your thoughts on this duo getting back together?
MICHELLE:
Peter Bergman and I had worked together off and on so many times, and so I was like, “What can we do new with this?” I was like we have been together more years than anyone else, or probably equal with Nick, and I wanted to find something new in it, and probably would have had I stayed on. Of course, I love Peter Bergman. He is a lovely and beautiful human being.
MICHAEL:
I think we all loved you most with Joshua Morrow (Nick Newman)!
MICHELLE:
I know. It was just clearly what these two actors had in a scene together, and it was so interesting to see. We just had so much chemistry, and they weren’t really telling sexual type of stories on Y&R then. They were never doing things where people were just ripping off each other’s clothes. We started writing every scene like that! (Laughs) It was very dynamic, and I loved working with Josh. Josh and I literally just had to say the words and it really, really worked. It was a huge spike in ratings, too. I am really proud of that time on Y&R. I think it was really great.
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MICHAEL:
Jeff Branson (Ronan) and you also had some serious chemistry going on. What did you think of Ronan and Phyllis? And how ultimately, Jeff was written-off the show?
MICHELLE:
I thought their relationship was really interesting, but when they ended it, I guess they had him come back on, and he was totally in love with Phyllis. I was not sure about that, but Jeff was great. I am never a fan when they write a man totally heartbroken over a woman; I am just not a personal fan of seeing a man be like that. I like to see men be strong. I don’t like seeing them be desperate, and Jeff played it great. He is a great actor, and he was let-go when Jill and Josh came in. I said, “Jeff, you are great. Just go do your gig and go be a star,” and he is working a lot.
MICHAEL:
Christian LeBlanc (Michael, Y&R) is your buddy. Is it weird that he is there at Y&R, and you’re not?
MICHELLE:
I know he is sad, because it was first losing Jeanne Cooper (Katherine Chancellor) and now me … two main actors on the show. Listen, Christian and I will always know each other, and know each other when we are 108!
MICHAEL:
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… And you will always hijack each others interview? (Laughs)
MICHELLE:
Yes, and I will always be funnier, and he will always remind me he has three Emmys and I have two. (Laughs)
MICHAEL:
What is the last word you would like to say to your fans?
MICHELLE:
I hope they watch The Stafford Project like 25 times each, and backwards. If we get 50, 000 to 100,000 hits in the first week that is great, and means it’s successful. If they are sad about Phyllis not being around, just watch The Stafford Project.
I watched The Stafford Project this eve and loved it. Its going to do well I think.
I watched The Stafford Project last night and thought it was wonderful.
OMG…the “mulatto” comments! lol. Viewers could tell this was ripped right from Michelle Stafford’s own experiences. What some people will say! I love that Michelle sees the humor in the ridiculous, and that she shares it so sublimely 🙂
My only other comment is that I think an episode release every three weeks is much to slow…not only because I would like to see episodes more frequently, but I think the series will lose forward momentum with viewers. Just too slow a pace for interested viewers. Just my opinion.
Love it, though.
Nice shout out to Delia on Ryan’s Hope! I can actually see that character may have influenced Stafford’s early Phyllis who was desperate for the security of Danny by having his son, just as Delia was desperate for the security of Pat (and had an adversary in Kate Mulgrew’s Mary who was disgusted by her, just as Cricket was disgusted by Phyllis.)
I haven’t watched Project yet, but I will.
I just have a comment…that top picture of Michelle is SO wierd to me…very un-Phyllis like. Never in a million years would Phyllis be caught in a princess dress like that!
She’s Michelle Stafford, not Phyllis
Thank you so much for letting Michelle clear it up once and for all that she and Sharon Case enjoyed working together and do not hate each other I was so sick of that story being told. I think she has a flair for comedy so good luck. The show is so different now that I think she was right to move on.
OMG what cave am I living in? If not for you, Michael, and this interview I’d be wondering how long Phyllis was going to be gone lol. Great interview!!! Happy for her and wish her continued success. SO SAD for us Y & R fans. Show will not the same without her!!!!! I’m going to start my mourning process now.
Thank God I have cookies in my cupboard 🙂
I wished they did not get rid of Phyllis. I loved her on the show and gonna miss her. I hope she comes back and get Sharon.
i hope that phylis comes back and sets things right with the sharon thing,i wish you success on your new adventure, but you will be so missed on my favorite soap..i have watched this show from the beginning, love it.
I smiled all the way through! Great job! I can’t wait to see more.
I watched the Stafford Project and I completely loved it. It was so very funny, which really fits Michelle well. She is such a great actress and I’m sad that she left Y&R but I am loving seeing her in this project of hers. Keep up the great work and I look forward to a lot more!
Michelle Stafford’s future is just beginning. I look forward to
Her star becoming bigger and brighter everyday.
I watched The Stafford Project It was funny and I wished Michelle would had stayed on Y&R ,Phylliss would had kicked ass and loved itwhen she battled Sharon and Christine Blair> I can’t wait until she does a primetime sitcom do 2 & a half men she would be funny with Ashton Kutcher and Jon Cyrer or Mike and Molly
Oh yes! Great idea
I would love to see Michelle team up with Colleen Zenk (Barbara) and Kim Zimmer (Reva) the 3 of them could do a sitcom together
Not everybody liked Phyllis with Nick.
Loved Nick and Phyllis together, show will not be the same without Phyllis. I wish Michelle well and will be tuning in on her show
She left because of Scientology. She refused to work with Michael (Murphy), because he came to his senses years ago and left the cult. She is doing a web series now, with all Scientology members. Talk about mind control.
I heard that to but he is never on could not figure out how that could be who knows. You have any idea how much money you put into this thing I call it a Pyramid cult. Lol
Scientology is her belief, who are we to judge. She is missed on Y&R – she’s an amazing actress, but I love that she’s got balls and isn’t afraid of doing what she wants. I didn’t want to like the stafford project because i was upset that she left Y&R – ha! how egotistical is that!? but i love it, she and the show is hilarious. and incredibly well produced
Michelle what can I say, I hate to see you leave the Y&R but if that’s your wish, I wish you the best of luck. May you prosper in all you do; God bless you and your beautiful, little girl.
I love Michelle on Y&R . Hope she return if only to get Sharon lie straight. I pray your success in whatever you want to do . I know that you would be good at it.
Does anyone know if Michelle is married in real life?
So Phelps fired Jeff Branson too. This witch just loves to kick actors out on the street. She’s a witch.
Interviews
‘The Bold and the Beautiful’s’ Heather Tom Talks Daytime Emmy-Nominated Scenes and What’s Behind Katie’s Deep-Seated Issues with Dylan (Exclusive)

The Bold and the Beautiful’s Heather Tom (Katie Logan) is heading into the 53rd annual Daytime Emmys next month with a chance to win not one, but two gold statuettes to add to her collection of six!
Heather is once again a nominee for the Outstanding Lead Actress in a Daytime Drama Series, and for the first time a nominee as part of B&B’s writing team in the Outstanding Writing for a Daytime Drama Series category.
Currently, Heather is tied with One Life to Live icon, Erika Slezak (Ex-Viki) as the actresses with the most wins in Daytime Emmy history. An acting victory by Tom would break the tie, although Slezak’s wins have all been for Lead Actress, while Tom literally grew up before our eyes over 35 years in daytime, and has won in all three actress categories: Younger, Supporting and Lead.

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Whether Tom wins the gold this year, next year is looking even like stronger lock with Heather delivering some of the best work of her career, over the last several months. Who can forget Katie’s showdown with her sister Brooke (Katherine Kelly Lang) over the creation of her own fashion house named Logan, that slap from Brooke, and eventually being disowned from the Logan family by Brooke and their sister, Donna (Jennifer Gareis).
This fall, Katie is in full momma bear-mode and being overprotective of her son Will Spencer’s (Crew Morrow) heart and pocketbook. In story, Katie has a massive distrust of Melissa Dylan, who has made her move on her son, while Will is still trying to deal with the break-up with the love of his life Electra Forrester.
During a live chat this week on the Michael Fairman Channel, Heather opened up on a myriad of subjects, including why Dylan gets under Katie’s skin in such a major way, and what scenes earned her a shot at Lead Actress gold at the October 30th Daytime Emmy ceremony.

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HEATHER TOM’S DAYTIME EMMY SUBMISSION
In daytime, Heather Tom does it all, she acts, directs and writes for The Bold and the Beautiful. When deciding what material to submit for Emmy competition with its eligibility rules of episodes from 2025, it relayed heavily on scenes with her longtime B&B scene partner, Don Diamont (Bill Spencer).
“I submitted material having to do with the Luna (Lisa Yamada) storyline and having to do with Katie and Bill. I love that Katie and Bill have been really trying to find their way back to each other for, honestly, five years. He’s been trying to woo her back. Katie’s been like, ‘No.’ However, they come together, especially over their son, Will (Crew Morrow) and they have a very real relationship-type of discussion. It wasn’t an argument. It was more about, ‘I know you. Don’t do this.’ That’s always kind of been Katie’s relationship with Bill. The scenes with Don Diamont were about Katie and Bill’s history, the pain, and the drama, and especially about their son, seemed very familiar to me.”
Heather added, “There’s also a couple scenes with Will and Luna, when Katie finds out that Luna is pregnant. Katie was like, ‘Nope! Our son is having a baby with somebody, and we’re going to figure this out. We’ve got means and the ability to do this. I don’t care if we have to take this baby away from Luna because she’s crazy, we’ll figure it out.’ They were some really good scenes that I felt very proud of. I thought to myself, “OK, this is Katie really taking a stand for her son, and having these conversations with Bill where I just felt they were real and honest.”
In conclusion to standing by her choices of scenes, Heather explained, “It was nice to see Bill and Katie operating as a parental unit and have her be like, “Yep, we’re not doing this. You know, you can’t force Luna to do anything, so let’s just figure out how we’re dealing with this.” Katie was kind of the adult in the room. Then, the scenes where Bill says to Katie, “You have to come back to me and I need you,” while Katie shed a few tears, she still didn’t take him back, not yet.”

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DYLAN BROKE THE ‘GIRLFRIEND CODE’
There are specific reasons why Katie has it out for Melissa Dylan. In fact, Dylan went so far as to get her mother Darcy Dylan to town to shut down Katie’s suspicions of her, but it still isn’t swaying Katie away from her stance on the matter. Heather revealed how she is playing the scenes.
“So, here’s the deal. It’s multifaceted,” began Tom. “This girl pushes Katie’s buttons. She reminds her of her sister, Brooke (Katherine Kelly Lang), and what Katie’s going through with her sister right now is very unpleasant. I think she looks at this girl and says, “This girl is going to crawl over anyone to get what she wants. And right now, she wants my son, and she’s willing to throw her best friend (Electra) under the bus.”
Heather also said, “Honestly, there’s something known as the ‘girlfriend code.’ Would you like to know what the girlfriend code is? ‘The girlfriend code’ is if your girlfriend, who is also your best friend, dates a guy and is especially in love with him, it doesn’t matter if you break up, that guy is off limits. You need to find yourself another guy.”
KATIE’S TROUBLES WITH BROOKE AND DYLAN MAKE HER TAKE A STAND
Katie clearly draws a similarity to her sister Brooke and Melissa Dylan which is also driving her attitude, which Heather confirmed. “So to Katie, it’s like Dylan broke that code. She is someone who follows her heart just like Brooke and leaves carnage in her wake,” said Tom.
She continued, “I think Katie looks at her and goes ‘Okay, one, you were living in your car. You didn’t call your mother who clearly loves you and ask her for help, but you were more than willing to take help from this, lovely rich guy.’ I think Katie feels like the fact that Dylan has been so expressive of how in love she is with Will, I think she finds that a little weird. She’s telling him that she’s e in love with him, and he doesn’t say it back to you. So, clearly he’s in not in love with you.”
In story, Katie can’t trust a young woman, who knows her son doesn’t feel the same way about her and yet is still hanging around. Heather shared Katie’s viewpoint to Dylan: “He’s clearly in love with your best friend. So, isn’t it a little unsettling that she kind of keeps saying she’s in love with him? So that’s my multifaceted reason why Katie doesn’t like her. It really has nothing to do with the fact that she came from humble beginnings because Katie did too. That being said, the Spencers are billionaires, so she would have to also look out for that. However, I don’t think that’s the main reason why she doesn’t like this girl or doesn’t trust her. I really don’t.”
You can check out the full conversation from our livestream conversation on the Michael Fairman Channel below.
Now let us know, are you rooting for Heather Tom to win the Lead Actress Daytime Emmy? What did you think of the scenes she submitted? Will Katie be proven right about Melissa Dylan, or will her distrust blow up in her face and she will wind up respecting Dylan when all is said and done? Weigh-in via the comment section.
Interviews
‘The Bold and the Beautiful’s’ Kelly Sullivan Talks Becoming Darcy Dylan, Who’s Melissa’s Dad, and Future Love Interest (Exclusive)

Kelly Sullivan made her triumphant return to daytime on recent episodes of The Bold and the Beautiful in her new role as Darcy Dylan, the mother of Melissa Dylan (Sydney Bullock).
In story, Melissa, better known as just “Dylan,” phoned home to her mother to come to Los Angeles, in an effort to calm the waters with Will Spencer’s (Crew Morrow) nosy mother, Katie Logan (Heather Tom), who doesn’t trust Dylan one iota.
Soap fans remember Sullivan from her previous Daytime Emmy-nominated role sas Kate Howard/Connie Falconeri on General Hospital and as Sage Warner on The Young and the Restless. During a livestream conversation exclusively on the Michael Fairman Channel, Kelly spoke about her time on GH and Y&R, and the wonderful co-stars she shared the screen with, and her excitement on her brand new role on B&B.

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As to her thoughts on if Darcy will ultimately prove to be a gold-digger, opportunist, but still has a heart of gold (as we saw in recent scenes with her daughter, seemingly), Sullivan explained, “Characters like Darcy can be dangerous. I think Darcy is a survivor and she can charm. She’s a flirt. She knows what she wants. Darcy is self-made, according to her, and she made it.”
THE DYNAMIC BETWEEN DARCY AND HER DAUGHTER, MELISSA DYLAN
However, Melissa plays a big role in what’s next for Darcy! Kelly explained, “She’s got this beautiful daughter and that was her entire life who is now making her way. Let me tell you, I don’t know what Darcy’s retirement plan is, but one would assume she doesn’t have much savings. This is a great opportunity for her to connect with her daughter and get the lay of the land.”
Finding out that Melissa has been dating Will Spencer from the rich and powerful Spencer family in Los Angeles, while initially a shock, could prove interesting if the mother/daughter were to work together for a common cause, their survival.
Sullivan explained, “Darcy’s all about the tabloids and all about this life of illusion and the haves and have-nots, essentially. She would never shy away from an opportunity to see what’s around the corner. I think the interesting thing for me, that I’m excited about is to explore the dynamic between Darcy and Melissa and what is that going to become?”
From all accounts, Darcy is here to stay in Los Angeles, and fans will see much more of Sullivan on their-screens. “Darcy’s not going anywhere”, confirmed Kelly. “I always said to Sydney Bullock, Darcy didn’t buy a round trip ticket. If you think about it, Melissa could be her ticket. She might be Darcy’s only hope. There are serious stakes here if Darcy has been waiting for this moment.”

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SHARING SCENES WITH HEATHER TOM
Last week, Sullivan had her first on-screen confrontation with Heather Tom. In the scenes, Katie was disapproving of Dylan and let Darcy know it. Eventually, Darcy takes Dylan with her to leave Will’s beach house apartment, but Will stops Dylan.
Recalling the taping of the scenes, Kelly said, “Heather Tom is a real special artist. In the story between Katie and Darcy, you’ve got momma bear and you’ve got momma bear. You can’t fault either of these women for how they feel, and how protective they are of their children.”
There are many things viewers and perhaps the writers have not totally fleshed out about the Dylans. Are their Dylan sisters coming, or to be revealed to rival the Logan sisters? Who is Melissa’s biological father? Plus, some more nuggets as Kelly revealed.
“I think there is a juicy, juicy story there of the Dylans,” previewed Sullivan. “It would also be interesting if they decide who Melissa’s dad is. Who is that? I mean, that’s interesting. You know, when I auditioned for this role, it said on the page that the character was charming, from the Midwest, and dance skills a plus. and I was a Broadway dancer. So, I hope this means there might be an opportunity to dance on the show at some point.”

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DARCY DYLAN AND WYATT SPENCER PAIRING?
As for the men on the canvas, Kelly was asked what she thought of a potential Darcy and Wyatt Spencer (Darin Brooks) pairing? To which she responded, “That would be so much fun. I’m such a fan of Darin’s work. Oh, I would have a ball working with him. One of the things that really excited me about Darcy when I was coming into audition for her was that they said that they wanted her to have a comedic sensibility, comedic chops as they said it.”
Sullivan concluded, “To work with Darin, I would be so lucky. He’s such a great actor and he’s got great comedic timing and he’s just really present and phenomenally talented. He’s a great actor, so I would love that. I mean, anyone on the show would be really fun. You throw it at the wall (in daytime) and say, ‘Is there a thing? Is there something here?’ Chemistry is chemistry.”
Now below, and in case you missed it, you can check out our full video livestream chat with Kelly Sullivan below.
So, what have you thought of Kelly’s performances thus far as Darcy? Do you think Darcy will turn out to be an opportunistic woman, but who deeply cares and loves her daughter, or will it turn out to be a ruse? Would you like to see Kelly paired with Darin Brooks on-screen as a love interest, and who do you think truly is Melissa Dylan’s biological father? Weigh-in via the comment section.
General Hospital
GH and OLTL Alum Patrick J. Gibbons Reveals the Story Behind Writing Trina’s Song on ‘General Hospital’ (Exclusive)

At the conclusion of today’s August 21 episode of General Hospital, Trina Robinson (Tabyana Ali) sings a lullaby to baby Dez, that went into a montage to close out the episode as her father Curtis Ashford (Donnell Turner) reports to Pentonville and winds up in his jail cell.
However, in a fun fact, the song entitled, “A Lonely Heart To Give” was actually written by none other than former One Life to Live and General Hospital actor, Patrick J. Gibbons.
Daytime fans first met Gibbons as Sam Manning on One Life to Live. At the time, when he started on the soap, he was just 5-years-old. Gibbons played the part from 2010-2013 on ABC and Prospect Park’s editions of the show. Fast-forward to 2018, Gibbons shows up on General Hospital as Wyatt Hoover, the scout who seemed always be injured, but in the thick of the drama. Patrick had appeared on GH multiple times as Wyatt including: 2018, 2019, 2021, 2022, 2023.

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FROM HIS GRANDMOTHER’S DEATH CAME THE INSPIRATION FOR HIS SONG
Now in 2026, General Hospital fans are getting to learn about another side of Gibbons’ talent as a songwriter and guitar player after “A Lonely Heart to Give” debuted today! Michael Fairman TV caught up with Patrick, who is now a senior at Penn State entering his final year as a finance major, to get the back-story of how his song wound up on GH!
Gibbons explained he wrote the song in honor of his grandmother who passed away a few years ago with whom he was, very, very close with. “Randomly, my grandmother had a downfall and passed away during the second semester of my sophomore year. I was in my dorm a lot and I was just playing with my guitar. And at the time, I was really into finger-style playing. I wrote the lyric and music to it (with a little help from my guitar teacher Lou), and my mom showed the rough demo to Frank Valentini (EP, General Hospital). He’s like an uncle to me. Frank loved it so much he said, “Finish that up. I want to hear the whole thing, and I want it on the show.”
MAKING MUSIC FOR GENERAL HOSPITAL
Gibbons and his parents took the next steps! “So now, all we needed was a female voice, because I thought that would fit the song well,” Patrick shared. “At the golf club we go to my parents were at a dinner. They liked the singer that was performing and spoke to her about the song, and she says she would like to bring it to her ‘boss’ who ended up being Eric Bazilian of the Hooters fame!” (Bazilian also wrote the smash hit song “One of Us” for Joan Osborne).
Next, “We went in the studio and recorded it and the song came together and it was beautiful. We loved it. They loved it at General Hospital and now they’re putting it the show and they are coming in with a piano, instead of a guitar. Paul Glass, the GH musical director, has been keeping us updated over the last six months of how it was coming along, and when it would air, and how GH put their own arrangement to it. I can’t wait to see and hear what they did with it.”

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PATRICK’S ONE LIFE TO LIVE FAMILY
Everyone knows that the One Life to Live extended family share a very tight bond, and Patrick said he does stay in touch with a few of his former One Life to Live co-stars, especially those from the Manning family! “I stayed in touch with Kassie DePaiva (ex-Blair) and sent her little videos here and there. She was like my second mom for five years. We keep in contact with Kristen Alderson (ex-Starr) over X the most, and she can’t believe how big I’ve gotten. Like, none of them can! (laughs). I also loved working with Roger Howarth (ex-Todd) and Trevor St. John (ex-Todd and Victor Jr.), and to me since I was so young, they were just my friends, ‘Roger and Trevor,’ not Todd Manning or Victor Jr.”
It was a trip to California and a visit to Port Charles that ultimately led to Gibbons second soap role of Wyatt Hoover. Patrick explains, “In 2016, Frank Valentini invited us out to Los Angeles to visit the set of General Hospital. I think he heard me say, ‘This is so much fun. I miss being on the set.’ He goes, ‘You should come out. I’ll bring you on the show. We can make you a character.'”
A few years later, Patrick’s dream became a reality! “Then, by the summer of 2018, I was playing Wyatt, the scout, and shared scenes with Wes Ramsey (Peter August), and the best was when I shared a scene with Roger Howarth and Michael Easton (ex-John, OLTL and ex-Silas, Finn et al, GH), it was like chemistry from the old days.”

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IT’S ALL IN THE NUMBERS
As to his future aspirations, it’s a career in the finance game that has piqued Gibbons’ real-life interest. But never say never to a return to acting. Patrick explained, “I’ve always enjoyed numbers. And on top of that, one of the biggest parts of finance is being personable and outgoing.”
He continued, “That’s one of the greatest skills I developed growing up. I really love the markets. I’m super interested. I’m never going to close the door to acting. I’m always open to that because I just love it so much. It’s such a great art.”
Take note! If there are any investment bankers or private equity folks among the GH faithful looking for a young analyst next year, Patrick’s DMs are open. You can find him on X at @PatrickJGibbons.”
So, what did you think of the song sung by Trina on today’s GH that was written by Patrick J. Gibbons? Did you enjoy Patrick’s performances as One Life’s Sam and GH’s Wyatt? Would you like to see him back on GH at some point? Let us know via the comment section.
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