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The Ricky Paull Goldin Interview – All My Children

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Take one of daytime’s greatest performers, put him on a real-life road trip with his best bud to tackle questions and believability of paranormal phenomenon, and what do you get?   No, not a remake of Thelma and Louise with two guys, but the TLC special, Seeing vs. Believing airing this Sunday.  All My Children’s Ricky Paull Goldin (Jake) is the executive producer and co-host of the one hour metaphysical, and at times, eerily spooky special television event.   Born out of the last wishes of his dying father, world-renowned hypnotist Paul Goldin, the soap star examines three intriguing subjects during the special.

We then turn our attention to Ricky’s magnetic performances as Dr. Jake Martin on All My Children, and for a revealing look into his many loveable roles throughout his soap career.  From his thoughts on AMC’s move to L.A – to what went down with the Beth Ehlers situation which ultimately saw her exiting the show – the on-screen pairing of Jake and Amanda – his expectations with the arrival of new AMC head writers, David Kreizman and Donna Swajeski – and saying goodbye to GL’s, Gus Aituro… it’s all here! One of the best guys in the business that we have had the privilege to know for many years; On-Air On-Soaps is pleased to bring you this look at all things… Ricky Paull!

Note: You can hear selected audio bytes from this interview by clicking on the player below, and read the feature in it’s entirety below. To view more clips and previews from Seeing vs. Believing, click here.

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The Ricky Paull Goldin Interview

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MICHAEL:

This Sunday is the premiere of your special Seeing vs. Believing on TLC.  I was reading up on this project of yours, and I was fascinated why you decided to do the special.  I understand it had a lot to do with an homage to your father.

RICKY:

Correct.  My dad was the world-renowned hypnotist Paul Goldin and he hypnotized hundreds of thousands people.

MICHAEL:

Did he hypnotize you?

RICKY:

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Yes, many times, and all the people in our family.  He came to Guiding Light once and hypnotized the crew to get them to stop smoking.  There were about 60 people in the room.

MICHAEL:

You mean, he didn’t hypnotize Ellen Wheeler to stop her from doing the shaky camera work? 

RICKY:

(Laughs) He didn’t know that was coming.  I thought he was a pretty good psychic, but he didn’t see that coming.  None of us did. (Laughs)  My dad asked me on his deathbed to please go find “the ones”.  And I said, what do you mean, pop? He said, “I want you to find the ones that are special and that have a gift, and the ones that have a paranormal and supernatural talent.  I want you to show them to the world, because you and I both know, Ricky, that they are out there.”  And he is speaking from experience, because I have seen him do incredible things in my life, as we all have in our family.  I said, “I would do that for you.”  And he said, “At the same time, I want you to expose the phonies and the frauds. I want you to capture that feeling that we have had.”  The ones that have had experiences are called “Believers” and tend to be on the believing side, in this world of ours.  If they experience something they can’t explain suddenly their eyes are open, and their hearts are open to believing.  It doesn’t mean you are not a realist, and it doesn’t mean fickle, and others of us are closed off to it.  And to those people, it’s black, it’s white, we’re born, we live, we die, end of story!  Personally, I think that is not possible.  If we are to believe that we are the only things in this universe and in this galaxy, then that is pretty closed minded, because how can we be the only creatures in existence?  So I know there is something, and I feel it.  And I have had experiences.  Now if I could have you or a viewer experience it, and capture it, then we’re talking!

MICHAEL:

Was it hard putting the special together, of how we as the audience, would relate to what is going on?  What were the hurdles you were facing in production to get this issue out there to the viewing public?

RICKY:

I don’t want to manipulate anything, and that is why I came up with the idea of bringing a “skeptic” with me.  My good buddy, Jeff Gurtman is my smartest friend – an Ivy League Kid.  He is very black and white about stuff, and the perfect person for this journey with me. We don’t always get along as friends. We have spats and stuff, but to keep it real and to keep it honest, Gurtman was the man.

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MICHAEL:

How long ago did your father pass away?  Were you at all close?  

RICKY:

It has been two years last month.  It was tough.  I loved my dad, and here is the thing; he was in another world.  He was in the spirit world.  He was not of this world.  He worked for the CIA.  Everything he did was covert.  He did lots of projects.  For example, one of them was to help clean up the Jonestown Massacre. He also hypnotized 10,000 people at one time!  He used his gift to heal people, too.  He had a clinic in Beijing and Ireland, and they are growing still.  I have over 16,000 hours of audio tapes from my father, and ledgers and books, so that did not leave a lot of time for him to be “daddy”.   So, I can go around all my life with a chip on my shoulder, or I can go around and see the world through his eyes, or I could not care at all.  I am not doing the latter.  I want to see the world through his eyes.  When I am alone with him, and the man is dying, look, I love my father – the words that have been known to come out of my mouth is that I didn’t always like him. This is the catalyst for the show.  There are so many things I did not know about him, and the full capabilities of his gifts.  So, I wanted to know and get to the bottom of it.

MICHAEL:

Did you “believe” growing up?

RICKY:

You believe what you see and that is what I knew.  I was running around the living room while my dad was with the Rolling Stones, or Bob Geldof, or Enya.  I was just a kid then, and to me it was no big shakes, and it’s still no big deal to this day.  They all wanted one person to perform for them, and the man that they wanted, and that fascinated them, was my father.

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Did he want you to go into the same kind of career choice and follow in his footsteps?

RICKY:

He would have loved for me to expand the clinics.  He wanted to do a Goldin vs. Goldin on stage and maybe do it in Vegas, but I was always too busy with the soaps and my career in America.  We had the pond between us, as he lived in Ireland.  I will tell you a secret.  I was at a party with them and the manager of U2 in Ireland, and again I am not saying this to be cool, but I was honored to be there.  Are you kidding?  But anytime I hung out with him that is how he rolled.  I met Bono, who is one of my idols, and when you shake his hand electricity seems to run through it, and of course, he is an incredible man!  You know the first thing he said to me?  “My God, you’re Paul Goldin’s son.”   It was unbelievable! The first thing Bono talked to me about was my father, and that is how it was all the time.

MICHAEL:

Did you ever feel then, you were in your father’s shadow?

RICKY:

No, no, my father was not an actor.  He never purported to be an actor, and my brother was an inventor and went off and created hair extensions… Great Lengths Hair Extensions, and he is the sole owner of that company, and it’s a billon dollar business.  I am doing what I do.  I have never stopped acting since I did Romper Room at three years old!

MICHAEL:

No!  You did Romper Room? 

RICKY:

I would do, “I see Ricky, I see Michael,” through the little mirror, (laughs).  But look, I have been blessed.  I had a wish when I was very little and that was I wanted to be a working actor, and I got my wish.  Now when it comes to this special, it’s more about what my father told me when I was younger, that I was a “receiver.”  And, I shut it off when I was twelve and thirteen.  Before he left me and passed on, he asked me not to do that anymore, and to open up that avenue in myself.  I would do that by taking this journey.

MICHAEL:

I am sure you have watched back Seeing vs. Believing.  Did it work out the way you hoped it would?

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RICKY:

You work these things out.  It’s the event and the premiere that is the thing that launches the show.  I was on my 726th performance of a certain play I did in New York City, and on the very last night I was still trying to tweak my performance.  I will always be like that.  I don’t think I have left any scene in daytime, primetime, or Broadway, where I am ever fully satisfied with the results.  My mind is always reeling… How can we heighten this?  How can we make it better?  I have seen the special and I love the show, and I hate everything!  But of course, I am really excited about going to a series, and I already know how I would like to end the segments with more information for the audience, if that were to occur!

MICHAEL:

The goal is to obviously go to a series with Seeing vs. Believing.

RICKY:

Yes!  That is how it works now.  They don’t hand you 6 or 12 episodes.  And by the way, if they do commit to that, they can still pull you after the first one if it doesn’t do well.  They yank it, and you never hear from them again.  I am hoping people watch the show.  I think we have already moved mountains!

MICHAEL:

Please explain to me what on earth is going on in the promos with burlap bags over your heads while driving a car?

RICKY:

There is somebody who had a claim about Hellstromism, and that was founded by Axel Hellstrom, who knew my father.  It’s actually about being a human lie detector.  It’s being able to read somebody by their pulse and the shifting of their eyes, or their body language better than a detective.  It’s the most amazing, incredible thing!  So one of the subjects we explore on the special is; that this guy wanted to prove it by being blind and bagged, and driving an automobile on a road, and staying on the road and not crash.  And, this man wasn’t using my pulse.  I wanted him to use the “skeptics” pulse.  So, who would be responsible for the bag that was bought not being a trick bag?  That is Jeff, who does not believe anything, and he is the subject that this gentleman would use during the premiere.

MICHAEL:

Were there scary moments during the filming? 

RICKY:

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Very scary!  There was something terrifying in Hell’s Half Acre, that is in Hot Springs, Arkansas, which is cursed.  You step on something, and if nothing happens right away you think nothing of it.  Meanwhile, I walked out of that place, and I needed 21 stitches on my face, and I am an actor. You think I would do that to myself?   We got so freaked out.  I went to the ER, and Jeff Gurtman went to interview this American Indian, and Jeff said, “Nothing happened to me, but something happened to Ricky,” and the American Indian said, “Nothing yet.” And something did happen to Jeff after we got home.  All our time codes that we used to edit the show with were caput from the Hell’s Half Acre shoot.  So, we had to get spiritually cleansed by the American Indians.  I had Chip, my psychic advisor say to me, “We are going to build you a pile of medals that you are going to put on chains, and when you go back out for this journey, Ricky… and I know you will…  I will build medals for every cast and crewmember, and we will fight fire with fire.  Also, we will not disturb the spiritual world.  We have a game plan.”  I know it sounds when talking like I lost my mind.  But Michael, I have known you for so long, I am going to tell you what I went through, and this is some of it.

MICHAEL:

What is the take away or message you want viewers to get from the show?

RICKY:

I want them to know they can write in to us right away, and they can fire off where they want us to go, what they have experienced, and we are going to go there.

MICHAEL:

So, it is basically a complete reality show, but for the paranormal?

RICKY:

I am not casting this.  I want the real deal.  If it was an experience they had, or a phenomenon, or it’s a local legend… we are there.  And by the way, when it’s a local legend, we show up.  We get off a plane, and we start knocking on doors and start finding out the stories from the people.  This is a docusoap!

MICHAEL:

There had to be a time where even you went: “This is so ridiculous, I cannot believe it!”

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RICKY:

Yes.  Some that wrote in to us were ridiculous, and that is the flip side to this.  We are going to expose the frauds and the fraudulent claims, and the stories that are bogus.  That is part of the fun of the show.  Fans can write us at www.seeingvsbelieving.com. I am on Twitter and Facebook, and I am really accessible when it comes to this project, and I want to stay that way.   

MICHAEL:

OK, now let’s talk about Jake Martin and All My Children. The new head writer’s work begins to air in May.  And fans and I are hoping that since David Kreizman wrote for you over at Guiding Light, and Donna Swajeski wrote for you at Another World, that this could be a fantastic time to see great material for you to play.

RICKY:

You know, I am getting older now.  I was one who did not burn my bridges, thank God.  David Kreizman was there at Guiding Light for the whole drug addiction storyline of Gus.  I actually broke a blood vessel in my eyeball with that storyline; because I was just a friggin’ mess everyday!  Donna Swajeski was there at Another World when I was just a punk.  So it could be a very exciting time coming up.

MICHAEL:

Donna wrote for you at AW, when you were singing and dancing as Dean Frame?

RICKY:

Yes, and I went in for this role, which I was completely wrong for, and it was just a role.  It was not singer, musician or rock star.  It was a role that ended up being played by Danny Markle for six months, and he got axed.  I was leaving the audition room, and I know I am like “Quirks McGuirk”… I am a quirky dude… and I am walking out the door.  And she says to me, “Oh, by the way, do you play guitar?”  And I go, “No, I don’t play the guitar, but I do play piano.”   And that was the birth of Dean Frame.  And that show had a very dry sort of wit about it.  It did not have a lot of musical stings, and it reminded me of the old soap, Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman.   There was no music and it sort of sat in itself for a while.  I used to play the music on AW with just the piano and me all the time, and it was not produced.  Later on, when it got into the band and the rock star storyline, I would go into the recording studio.  I used to go all over the world and sing for people acappella.  That is how I got Grease on Broadway, because ten-time Tony Award winner Tommy Tune used to watch Another World, and he saw me singing on TV, and I got a part on Broadway.

MICHAEL:

I had no idea on that one!  Now, here at All My Children, how do you feel that things are going for you?  The soap business has become so unsteady for actors that you never know from time to time what shoe is going to drop! 

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RICKY:

I am lucky.  I pretended that there were no Jake’s before me.  I just wanted to be a family member.  I know how it works.  I love Michael Knight (Tad), and he is also a “Quirks McGuirk”, and the two of us together is great fun.  I love Vincent Irizarry (David).   He is one of the best bad guys.  There is a genius to the way he plays that role, and David Hayward annoys the hell out of Jake, but Vincent, he is one of the best.

MICHAEL:

There is a fantastic dynamic between the two of you!

RICKY:

There is no possible anti-hero or Superman movie unless you have an arch-nemesis, or a really bad villain.  So, keep it coming!

MICHAEL:

How do you like playing a doctor?  (Laughs) 

RICKY:

(Laughs) I have to be honest; I did not want to play a doctor.  My actor friends on Grey’s Anatomy or ER, they are like: “The worst thing is having to memorize the medical terms.”  I am so mental as it is, and I am like Rain Man in the corner, going over my medical throws, and I want to make it even better so I can throw it off the top of my tongue like, I got this.  This is the one thing that makes me have to break out another cylinder in having to do this.  But, if I have to do it, I wanted it to be the best.  We are moving at a pace here which is so much faster than primetime, and sometimes it can be really frustrating.

MICHAEL:

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Last week we watched the beautiful James Mitchell/Palmer Tribute episode, where you did an homage to Joe remembering Palmer.  Do you miss Ray MacDonnell (Joe)?

RICKY:

I loved him and he is awesome!  Not having Ray McDonnell here sucks.  He is the real deal old school actor.  And, he would like to have fun with me like the best of them, and so I had to be more on point with my cues for delivery with him.  But, that is a small price to pay to be able to hang with him.  He is a funny, loveable guy, and I miss him a lot.

MICHAEL:

Let’s talk about you and Chrishell Stause as Jake and Amanda.  Were you surprised that this couple captivated the AMC audience, as one of the most popular couples in Pine Valley?

RICKY:

Well, look what she brings to the table.

MICHAEL:

I never thought this relationship would go. I honestly didn’t.  I never thought she would have the acting chops to go with you.  But she has proved many wrong. 

RICKY:

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Well, that’s fair. You are one of the experts in your field.  I read with her, not on camera, and I can tell what somebody can do in a room.  By the way, I am a terrible cold reader, so I say this with that caveat. (Laughs)  I am good at seeing what actors can do, and Chrishell is not like a fluffy girl who had everything handed to her.  She came from very humble roots and has worked for everything she has.

MICHAEL:

So you knew that this could translate on-screen?

RICKY:

I started to dig, as I do, and I found out more about her.  For me, it’s not about the written word.  It’s about wanting to know what my writers want me to convey, but Chrishell is willing to play.  I don’t have a gage if we are popular.  I used to get addicted to what was being said on the Internet, but I know I don’t follow it as much.

MICHAEL:

I need to address with you, the Beth Ehlers situation.   It was sad to see this not work out at AMC for her.  Can you speak to the issues of what happened?

RICKY:

Beth is one of the greatest, and I am not saying this to appease you, or the listeners, or the people who will read this.  But, Beth is one of the best technicians I have ever seen in this medium.  She really is!  I learned a lot from her, and I dare say, she learned one or two things from me, and together it was something great.  I don’t know if it was a round hole/ square peg story over here.  I know that it was powerful enough for All My Children to try it.  I also know it’s kind of a shame, because there was another show in love with Beth at that same time.  I think her loyalties were with me, and can we capture lighting in a bottle twice?  Sometimes, when you try to set out to do something, it’s not how you pictured it.  I have no doubt Beth will come back and slam something home, and even though she is not 19 years old anymore, she has a really big talent.  She is very smart, and she is a medic and an ENT.  Beth is back in New York and raising her two boys, and I think she is filling her soul back up.  You really do give a lot to an ongoing series like a soap opera.  Beth is a very spiritual girl.  I am sure she will blow someone’s socks off again.  I think it will be sooner than later.

MICHAEL:

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But what went wrong?  The storyline was a mess for her and for the viewers! 

RICKY:

I will say this: they wanted to tell one of the best stories ever on daytime, they wanted it to be Coming Home with Jon Voight and Jane Fonda, and then these two fall in love, Taylor and Jake.  Taylor saw her fiancée blow up, and then he shows up six months into these two getting to know one another and she is letting her guard down, and she can’t not be with him.  Now, there are a lot of corners to be easily painted into.  How do you tell that story, and then turn down this fantastic war hero and not be with him, and be with the Jake Martin character?  How do you do that successfully?  You can’t, because then you are the bitch.  You are painted into a corner.  It’s worse than raping or killing somebody on these shows, which is usually the kiss of death… for most…but now it’s not putting the old Ricky Paull Goldin and Beth Ehlers together, it’s doing the opposite.  But it’s the best efforts, and it was a great idea.  By the way, JR Martinez (Brot) has been doing a great job. The guy never acted.  I am thinking, looking at the history and what he has been through in Iraq, it makes him a full human being, and gives him an opportunity to shine… and look at him!

MICHAEL:

So what you are saying is that the Brot/Taylor/Jake storyline was a conundrum?

RICKY:

The storyline was an absolute conundrum, and Beth was on the horns of the dilemma the minute she took the gig.  And listen, everybody loved her and respected her here.  You are going to have creative differences, and we were trying to have it have the ending we wanted it to be, but sometimes that just doesn’t happen.

MICHAEL:

Ok, so I know this may be a hard question for you.  Since you are always looking to be better and better with your work and your scenes, are there a few favorite moments over the years on daytime, where you can say, “I was good in that”?  

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RICKY:

I had some moments on Another World with the music, and I had a couple of moments on The Young and the Restless, where I played this guy with three personalities with Heather Tom.  I had a few of those moments on Guiding Light with Gus doing drugs, because he was the guy you love.  Gus was such a great guy.  He was human and I really enjoyed playing that.  I had a few moments of the death of Gus Aitoro.  I did not watch that for six months, and when I watched it I wept.  My mother, who was my biggest critic, usually calls me and says something like, “I saw you operating on Tad today.  It looked like you were eating Spaghetti Bolognese.”   But, she was a mess from the death of Gus Aituro.  I am still looking for that great moment here at All My Children.

MICHAEL:

What can we preview next for Jake?

RICKY:

There is something big coming up for Jake and Amanda that we are taping now.  It is something different.  It’s quick and pivotal.  I am looking forward to the new writers and the new material.  I am looking to load up the bases and have a man on every base, and I want to slam it home.  That would not feel good coming back to the dugout by myself; you have to do it with the team.  We have one of the greatest casts now, and there is not a bad apple in the bunch, and the energy here is great.  We are at a great new place with new sets.  We were not allowed to be happy when we left New York, because we were leaving so many people behind.  We were not allowed to be happy because in the hair and make-up room, they weren’t coming with us.  That was sad, but when you turned the page this past January 4th here in LA…. you have never seen a happier group of people.  We had to stick together because it’s a bunch of east-coasters now on the west coast, and it’s really the greatest feeling in the world. 

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MICHAEL:

So you were obviously at the Town Hall meeting at The View set, when Brian Frons (ABC President Daytime and SOAPnet) informs the cast you are headed out of the Big Apple for Sunny L.A.  What was your initial thought?

RICKY:

My jaw was on the floor, but I am used to that.  You see, back to my dad, I went to 20 schools growing up, and that moved me around.  I used to be in three different schools in one year.  I am used to being the new kid.  Some people would call that a survivor!

MICHAEL:

You are so extremely popular, dare I say, “A Fan Favorite”, and because of that, there had to have been a fan or two along the way, that has touched you personally.

RICKY:

I was with a kid when I did a personal appearance, and that child was fighting for her life with her lungs, and did not make the fight.  I went and sang for her in the hospital room, because that was one of her last wishes.  I don’t really feel those moments as much when we are meeting thousands of people at one time.  I bow out of lot of those things because it’s so rushed at those big fan events and fans get upset.  So there is no way to win. Sometimes, I feel if I just extract myself from that equation nobody will feel bad.  The thing that moves me the most is when I come across somebody whether they are 99 years old or 9 years old, and I have. If I made them smile, or took them away from their problems for awhile, or took them on a journey of any kind – and I don’t mean a fluffy depthless journey – I would like them to really experience something.  I would like to take them on a journey away from their life, even if it’s for an hour of the day during daytime.  I think one of the most amazing things is when people have named their children after characters that I have played or named them after myself. 

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MICHAEL:

OK Ricky, as we close, this Sunday, May 2nd on TLC at 8 and 11PM EST for the premiere of Seeing vs. Believing, do we need beer, chips, and hankies for this?

RICKY:

I’ve got to tell you, it’s a little bit of a roller coaster for sure. You will need all of them! (Laughs)

MICHAEL:

And, any final words on AMC’s, Dr. Jake?

RICKY:

You know me, I always try to deconstuct this stuff.  I am always trying to serve it up to the audience in a way that you don’t know what you’re eatin’. (Laughs) I just try to keep it fun.

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  1. Debbie U

    April 29, 2010 at 6:38 am

    Your interviews are always fascinating and this is one of the best….thank you. It’s a great read. Just love Ricky and this interview gives a very candid insight in to different facets of him that are both interesting and perhaps unexpected. Bravo to both of you!!!!

    • dian_kane

      April 29, 2010 at 8:54 am

      I love that you are real and so very open and honest about your relationship with your father. Too many times, everyone thinks “other”people…especially on T.V. have perfect families or lives. I love that you are on this search. I love that you are doing it for the right reasons and to fill in the spots/voids. I have loved you in everything else you have done. ….thank you…. 🙂 GO forth, can’t wait to watch and I pray you find what your heart desires and needs for peace. 🙂 take care….good luck…..

  2. lynel helmers

    April 29, 2010 at 9:23 am

    i went t 30 different schools ,lol

  3. lynel helmers

    April 29, 2010 at 9:24 am

    this was a great interview

  4. Stephanie D.

    April 29, 2010 at 6:16 pm

    Great interview Michael! Ricky seems like such a great guy, has a great personality, and a good outlook on life. Can’t wait to see his new show on TLC.

  5. Doe

    April 29, 2010 at 9:15 pm

    Michael, once again you have hit it out of the ball park with this interview with Ricky. His is a fascinating background and life story. I hope this new series will complete his quest for him and his father, And who knows, maybe he will be able to contact his father. Wouldn’t that be life altering? This was the most interesting and different interview I have been privy to. Thank you, Ricky, for sharing this part of your life with us. And thank you Michael, for bringing this story to all of the fans.

  6. semaj

    April 30, 2010 at 7:11 am

    love jake and amanda on amc they are amc next big supercouple they are golden together and they have amazing chemistry

  7. john power

    May 25, 2010 at 6:50 am

    ricky, about 40 years ago, paul was doing show in dublin. they were selling little booklet written by paul[not the 6 sence]. there were several mentions of freud.[freud wrote about paul,he said someone may come who’ll use the copper of direct suggestion, with the gold of psychoanysis, and use hypnotin tecnique”,]. i’d give anything to get copy of booklet. i thought it was magical, brilliant, in it’s ordinarinees. my address is ”john power, flat 10, 9 moreton st, pimlico, london, sw1v 2pw” sincerely john power

  8. Carol

    June 28, 2010 at 5:21 pm

    I have heard that Ricky Paull Goldin and Michael Knight are both Jewish. Is this true? Their humor leads me to believe it is!

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‘Strahan, Sara and Keke’ Canceled by ABC; Show Aired In Timeslot That Once Housed ‘All My Children’

No matter a network tries to do, replacing All My Children, which ran for 41 years on ABC has remained as everyone that follows the world of daytime drama knows, problematic.  Now come word via Page Six that Strahan, Sara and Keke has been canceled.

The show hosted by Michael Strahan, Sara Haines and Keke Palmer if you recall, replaced the foodie show, The Chew which ran for seven seasons and was the first show to air in the timeslot that belonged for over four decades to All My Children. 

Back in March of this year, Strahan, Sara and Keke took a break to make way for ABC’s News  Pandemic: What You Need to Know, a daily coronavirus report anchored by Amy Robach, Dr. Jen Ashton and sometimes TJ Holmes.

However, because the show did well in that two-week experimental run it morphed into GMA 3: What You Need to Know.  The new version of the show also talked about hot topics in the current news cycle, as well.

ABC’s Catherine McKenzie began producing the “GMA3” show four months ago and the network officially announced her as Executive Producer of the program on Thursday.

While ABC has yet to officially announce Strahan, Sara and Keke is over, a spokesperson told Page Six: “We’re proud of our teams at ‘SSK’ and ‘GMA3’ and how quickly they transitioned to producing a daily show to give people the news and information they need during an unprecedented pandemic, and conversations continue about how the show will evolve in the months ahead.”

It appears that Strahan, Sara and Keke won’t be returning; the future as many of their staff have transitioned over to ‘GMA 3’ with producers from ABC News Live, (the streaming division), helmed by McKenzie.

As for the futures of Strahan, Haines and Palmer; Strahan will continues to host Good Morning America, and they are all actively under contract with the network.

So, what do you think of  ‘Strahan, Sara and Kek’e being replaced by ‘GMA 3: What You  Need to Know’?  How long do you think that show will last in the timeslot once taken up by residents of Pine Valley? Comment below.

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Eva LaRue Talks On Her Daytime Emmy Nomination, And Opens Up About The Loss Of John Callahan

For Eva LaRue, the past two months have been some of the most emotionally gut-wrenching and challenging of her life, following the passing of her ex-husband, father of her child, and dearest friend, John Callahan (Ex-Edmund, All My Children). The outpouring of support she has received not only from her former AMC cast mates, but the soap world in general illustrates just how dear Eva is to all of us, and how many people had special memories of their time with John.

While mourning the loss of Callahan along with their daughter, Kaya, there was some heartwarming and re-affirming news that any actress would love to hear. Eva was nominated for a Daytime Emmy in the Outstanding Guest Performer in a Drama Series for her work as Celeste Rosales on CBS’ The Young and the Restless, and she is great company as her former AMC co-star Michael E. Knight (Ex-Tad) is also nominated along with her for his work on General Hospital.

The coronavirus pandemic has hit our country and world hard, but through it All My Children virtual reunions emerged as fans were engaged by the content, transported to happier times that brought them back to familiar faces in Pine Valley in which Eva participated along with her good friends, Kelly Ripa, Mark Consuelos and so many more, thanks to the EW. com weeklong event which concluded on Friday.

Michael Fairman TV talked with Eva in this very candid, at times heartbreaking, and open conversation where she shares details into the final days of her beloved John, her last moments with him, and how she tried to plan a memorial in his honor during the COVID-19 pandemic.

For so many of us, 2020 has certainly seen more lows then highs, but in the end for Eva, to receive a nomination now (an award she was last nominated for back in 1997 as Outstanding Supporting Actress in a Drama Series for her work as Dr Maria Santos on All My Children) couldn’t have come at a better time. Here now is our conversation with Eva.

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I’ve been thinking so much about you.  I’m glad we could do this, and in the midst of the tragedy of losing John Callahan, and then receiving a Daytime Emmy nomination.  What was your reaction when you learned you were nominated in a category with none other than your former AMC castmate and good friend, Michael E. Knight (Ex-Tad, AMC, now Martin, GH)?

EVA:  Oh, I know!  He’s the first person I texted!  I was like, “Congratulations, Michael!  Did you ever in a million years think that you and I would be in the same category of anything?”  Then I said, “And when you win this, can I just borrow it for the weekend just to dress it up and take pictures with it… just want to borrow it, just babysit the trophy for a weekend, please?” (Laughs)

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What did you end up submitting that landed you the nomination for your role as Celeste on Y&R?

EVA: I submitted a scene with Peter Bergman (Jack, Y&R), who I have been friends for 30 years, if not more, and in all that time we had never worked together.  I met him when I was married to John O’Hurley (Ex- Dr. James Grainger) because John was over at The Young and the Restless at the time.  I went to a Christmas party with John to Peter and Mariellen’s house, and do you know who else was there?  Lisa Rinna (Ex-Billie, Days), and it was before she had gotten Days of Our Lives. She was dating Peter Barton (Ex-Scott Grainger, Y&R) at the time. We both ended up on soaps at the same time.  So, I submitted a scene with Peter, who is amazing, warm and open and such a great actor. Then I submitted a scene with my on-screen daughter Sasha Calle (Lola, Y&R) – I love that girl, and another one with Michelle Stafford (Phyllis, Y&R) who has also been my great friend for a couple of decades. The other scene I put on my reel was with me and Jordi Vilasuso (Rey, Y&R) who I also adore.  He is awesome and such a sweetheart.  I only had two months worth of material to draw upon.  So, I just submitted the scenes that I liked the best, and they all were within story, and all made sense.

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Where is Celeste supposed to be now?

EVA:  She went back to Florida, and that was that. I would never say never to anything, but it was always supposed to be a short stint, and it was great.

So not only is it you and Michael E. Knight, but Jeffery Vincent Parise, Chrishell Stause, and Elissa Kapneck. This Guest Performer category is loaded!

EVA:  I know! I know and love, Chrishell (Ex-Amanda) because we worked together on All My Children, too, right before I left, and she is a doll.  She just might be the sweetest, kindest, girl on the planet.  She literally might be the sweetest person who ever lived!  I don’t know the other two nominees personally.  So, I’m excited for them too.  It’s such a diverse category.  It’s just really fun to be nominated with all of them.

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You were nominated before, though, for your work as Maria on All My Chldren during the emotional baby switch storyline; working opposite Susan Lucci (Ex-Erica) for a lot in it.

EVA:  Yes.  I was nominated for Best Supporting Actress for All My Children, and I was nominated for Best Original Song.  I wrote a song when Maria came ‘back from the dead’ to All My Children, with a producer friend of mine from Miami Sound Machine.

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So, you’ve been doing all of these All My Children virtual reunions, which is so interesting that in this pandemic, people are looking for content, and they dip back into these beloved shows.  Was it fun doing the EW.com Santos Family reunion with everybody?

EVA:  Oh yeah, it was really, really fun.  I only saw in the big picture everybody else’s photo who was a part of it, and the people who I actually do hang out with the most, and see the most, and talk to the most, are Kelly Ripa (Ex-Hayley), Mark Consuelos (Ex-Mateo), and Sydney Penny (Ex-Julia).  I don’t see Sydney as much, but I do see her probably once every two years at least, but Sarah Michelle Geller (ExKendall) I see all the time and talk to all the time.  Kelly, Mark, and Sarah are the ones who walked me through that first week when John Callahan passed.  They literally were on the phone with me, the three of them, almost every day, but I got beautiful outreach, from what seemed like everyone.  This is when no matter how many years have passed since you have been in daytime, that the daytime family as a group – there used to be fifteen shows, now there are four – and people have bounced around and they are on other shows- – but the entire soap opera community reached out,   I cannot even tell you how much that meant to me.  It was overwhelming, and it was really, spectacularly beautiful.

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I hope it was some solace to you knowing how much people loved John, and also that they love and care so deeply for you.

EVA:  I mean, people who did not even work with John reached out.  Every soap was represented by getting a hold of me, sending a text or a phone call, or if they didn’t have my personal information, they tweeted, or whatever it was… literally from every reach of soapdom.  It was amazing.

And your relationship with John was amazing with all of the ups and downs you went through; that you remained such dear friends.

EVA:  We remained really great friends all the way.

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I so remember when the two of you first got together and it was this storybook real life soap couple romance.  John was always so sweet to me.  I was so, so sad, and you know, my heart just broke for you.

EVA:  I think it was just such a shock.  I don’t think anybody, and even Kaya were talking about it, because she graduated this week, and her dad is not here.  We’re not having a graduation, because of COVID-19, which sucks on top of it, but we were just kind of talking through the feelings of it.  She said, “You know what’s weird?  I guess I never pictured dad getting old, and I always wondered why, and now I know.”  When I would get on John about his heart or his health, he used to always say, ‘Oh, don’t worry Evala, (he always called me “Evala”).  I’m going to be here.  I’m going to be here a long time.  I’m fine.  I’m going to be here to walk Kaya down the aisle and see her kids and all that.  Stop worrying,” Every time he said it to me, something in my gut said, “I don’t think he is.  I don’t think he is,” but I always just dismissed that.  But never in my wildest dreams did I think John wouldn’t make it to her high school graduation.  He was only 66.

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I had heard you ended up running to Palm Springs to be near John.  I can’t even imagine what that must have been like.

EVA:  The only good thing about this pandemic is that we had been shut down for only two weeks at that point.  Kaya and I got in the car.  John had some heart procedures the day before, on a Thursday.  I called him in the morning before he went in for the procedure.  I said, “Call me as soon as you get out of there.  Call me as soon as you come-to again, and you’re good,” and he said, “Okay, I will.”  I said, “I’m going to send Kaya out to you on Friday for the weekend, just so you have somebody to hang out and watch you, and I might come out too,” And then, I said, “Maybe, I’ll come down too in case you are feeling weak, just to watch out for you for the weekend.”   So, he called me after the procedure.   I said, “I cannot believe they sent you home! You just had some major heart stuff done.”  He said, “Oh no, they said I’m fine.  It was just run-of-the-mill heart stuff, angiogram…”  I was like, “Are you sure?”  He said, “Yeah, I’m fine.  I’m just tired.  I’m going to go to sleep.”  I said, “Do you want me to send Kaya out tonight?” and he was like, “No, no, no.  Send her tomorrow.”  So, in the morning, I called him at 9:00am.  No answer.  I texted him.  He always texted me like Johnny on the spot, and then texts me immediately back.  So, I call him again at 10.  Nothing.  His best friend calls me about a half-hour later, “Hey, I talked to John at about 8:00 this morning.  He said he was feeling really, really shitty and was going to go back to the hospital, and then, I texted him again at like 8:30 to just tell him something, and he hasn’t texted me back, and he always texts me immediately back.”  I said, “Oh my, God, I’ve been trying to get a hold of him for two hours; he hasn’t texted me back,”   I said, “You know what, I’ll call you back.”  So, I called his friend who lives down the street from John, and I said, “Go to his house, please right this second, knock on the door, jump the fence, knock on his bedroom, he might be asleep, I don’t know.”  So, he gets there, nobody is answering.  I said, “Break into the house please.  So, he did, and John was collapsed in the bathroom.  They called the paramedics, and as soon as they called me back and said, “John is unresponsive in the bathroom,” Kaya and I threw everything in the car, and what usually takes us two and a half hours without traffic, we made it down there from Los Angeles in an hour and forty-five minutes.

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I don’t know how you made it down there in one piece. Thank, God!

EVA:  I drove so fast, like literally broke all land speed records and thank God because we got there just in time.  He was in emergency.  He hadn’t been put up in ICU yet, where we wouldn’t have been able to see him.  They weren’t going to let us in the hospital.  Thank God the person answering the door was an All My Children fan.  She was the one saying, “Sorry, no one is allowed in the hospital, no one can come in,” and I was like, “No, no, no, my ex-husband just came in.”  She said, “Was it Edmund?” and I said, “Yes, it was Edmund!”  She said, “Okay, follow me.”  Thank God for All My Children.  Thank God.  So, we followed this woman secretly, and we get to spend a half-hour with him in Emergency.  He was already on life-support, totally unresponsive, but we got to play John his favorite music, we got to just sit there and hold his hand and talk to him, and tell him how much we loved him.  Sarah Michelle Gellar called right when we were in the hospital in Emergency, and she said, “Put the phone by his ear,” so I put the phone by his ear, and she talked to John too, and she told him how much she loved him.  She used to always call him “GP”, which was short of grandpa, because she came on the show when she was 15, and she didn’t have a dad, and John acted like a dad to her – but she used to always call him “grandpa”, and he hated “grandpa”, so he was like, “You can call me “GP”, but not grandpa,” so she always called him GP.  I just put the phone by John’s ear, and what was crazy is that when she talked to him, his feet started twitching.  He started moving his feet.  Then, when Kaya was talking to him about Yankee season, he started moving his feet.  We were kind of hopeful that something was changing for the better.  We had about a half-hour with him, and then, they took him up to ICU, and then, we knew we couldn’t see him again.  They called us later that night that he had passed.

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I am just so thankful that you got to see John one last time.

EVA:  I thank God every day that we got to say goodbye, because if we hadn’t gotten there in time to say goodbye, I just don’t know.

It’s very rare that a couple after a divorce, who have a child, and went from romance to dear friends, end up maintaining that relationship so many years later in their lives.  I know so many people who were together at one point in their lives, for years, and they don’t even talk to each other now.

EVA:  Well, you know, like any divorce, the first four years afterwards were super contentious but then, by year five, we kind of had this major breakthrough, and from then on, he was one of my closest friends, and one of the things we always kept alive for each other was we loved to  dance together. We fell in love, I think, dancing because originally our characters on AMC met at this country-western bar, and we had to take country line dancing lessons on the show.  They hired a choreographer for us so that during those scenes where we were falling in love, we would actually be able to do a two-step! So, we went out and practiced at Denim and Diamonds, which was a big country-western place in New York City at the time.  We used to go out with a whole group of us.  It was me, and Teresa Blake (Ex-Gloria) and Kelly Ripa, and her boyfriend at the time, Winsor Harmon (Ex-Del), sometimes Walt Willey (Ex-Jack); we just had a whole crew of us who would go out country dancing.  John and I also loved singing together.  He had the most amazing gravely kind of rockstar voice, but his real talent was harmonizing.  He could harmonize to anything.  So, when he would come over, we would sit in the kitchen and sing, and sing, and sing until the late hours because that’s what we loved to do, and that’s what he loved to do.  That’s one of my favorite last memories of us.  He was just over the month before, and Kaya’s bedroom is near the kitchen, so she came out and was like, “Can you two shut up?”  It was like two in the morning and we were still singing in the kitchen. (Laughs)  John was my dear friend and my confidant.

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Were you able to have some kind of service during this stay-at-home pandemic we are all dealing with, in order to mourn the loss of John?

EVA:  It’s been so crazy.  We couldn’t even have a funeral.  That’s what made it all the more heartbreaking.  There were less than twenty of us, and we just got on a Zoom call and memorialized John.   I thought we were going to do a big Zoom memorial, but it seemed so overwhelming and so impersonal, it just was rubbing us wrong in every way.  Every way we were looking at it, we were like, “Oh my, God, we just can’t.”  We wanted to invite everybody he had ever worked with, and we were like, “No, we want to do that when everything can open back up again, and invite every person, and have a party” because John was always the life of every party.  Maybe we can do that in the fall or next year.  I kept trying to write something for the small memorial we did do for three days.  I kept coming back to this one song, because John was always the consummate bartender, too.  I sang a song that Bette Midler sang on the very last episode of Johnny Carson.  It was “One for My Baby (and One More for the Road)” and it’s about a bartender who has got a big personality and a lot to say.   I changed some of the words around a bit just to reflect who John was, and so, I ended up singing for it instead of speaking.  We always talked about that last episode of Carson; how stunningly emotional it was when Bette sang that song to kind of sing Johnny off for of all of his years on the air.  So, that’s what I did and because we loved to sing together, it just made sense.

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I do think you touched upon something, earlier, too.  I don’t think any other genre would have that kind of unbridled camaraderie.  It’s such a family, like you said.  I don’t think you would find that quite like this; certainly in show business. 

EVA:  I really don’t think you can. Even though there is always a good amount of competition in the soaps as well; between the soaps it’s like they are any sports team, but there is always a level of respect, love, and familial connection within the community.  I think that is why they have stood the test of time.  I really do think that is what hooks our audience, that is what keeps them there after all of these years, even though unfortunately the genre is antiquated looking, there is something about it that is nostalgic, familial, and comfortable for people.

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Every time I talk about All My Children, why do you think everybody go ga-ga for it, when it’s been off the air for several years now?

EVA:  It speaks to people’s childhoods.  It speaks to how we grew up.  You can’t undo nostalgia.  You can’t.  It’s in the way we grew up, the things we loved, the things that we scheduled our lives around, the people we fell in love with on the shows that we watched, who we cared about and loved their storylines. I grew up watching All My Children, General Hospital, and Days of Our Lives.

It must have been a spectacular moment for you when you realized you were actually in Pine Valley and a member of the cast of All My Children then?

EVA:  It was amazing.  I was a fan when I got the show.  I was a straight up fan.  I fangirled walking through that dressing room hallway for the first time! I was trying to keep it in check, but you know … (Laughs)

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So, in closing, you would say, “Thrilled to be nominated”?

EVA:  Yes.  So fun.  It has really been a rollercoaster of a couple of months here.  That nomination was literally the bright, shining spot in all of this.

So, happy to hear Eva is in the running for a Daytime Emmy? Were you moved by Eva’s sentiments she shared on her relationship with the late John Callahan? Do you miss Pine Valley’s Dr. Maria Santos? Share your thoughts in the comment section below.

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All My Children Reunion with Josh Duhamel, Ricky Paull Goldin, Cameron Mathison and More; Later Debbi Morgan Live

It’s a big finale of the weeklong virtual celebration of the iconic All My Children.  On tap today in EW’s series to benefit Feeding America during the COVID-19, some major names from the history of Pine Valley and who had story with each other participating in the chat, premiering at 10 a. m. EST.

Taking part in the walk down memory lane are none other than Josh Duhamel (Ex-Leo), Ricky Paull Goldin (Ex-Jake), Chrishell Stause (Ex-Amanda), Cameron Mathison (Ex-Ryan), Rebecca Budig (Ex-Greenelee) and Melissa Claire Egan (Ex-Annie).

But that’s not all folks! Daytime Emmy winner, Debbi Morgan will participate in a live virtual chat with EW.com today beginning at 3 p.m. EST/12 p. m. PST.  Now will be your chance to hear from the one and only Angie Hubbard from the beloved ABC daytime drama series.

Over the week, EW.com has posted other virtual conversations with notables from Pine Valley, you can check them out here.

So, will you be checking out today’s one-two punch of AMC favorites? Comment below.

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