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Y&R Poll: Do You Think There Is Any Way To Redeem Victor ?

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This week on The Young and the Restless, viewers witnessed another despicable move by Victor Newman (Eric Braeden) ! This time he goes for the jugular in an arbitration case to gain custody of his grandson, Christian by taking him away from his son, Nick (Joshua Morrow).

Once Victor wins and is granted temporary custody, Nick vows revenge.  Over the years, Victor has stooped to some major lows and skullduggery against his very own family, and his enemies  Have you had enough of Victor always getting his way and never really getting retribution?

Vote now in our latest Y&R poll below, and let us know how you feel about Victor now that he took Christian out of Nick’s arms.

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Jennifer W
Jennifer W

Victor was an accessory to his own son’s murder, then helped Adam’s murderer escape prosecution because she would have exposed Victor’s guilt. You can’t get much worse than that. Filicide is a crime. Now he’s going to warp Adam’s son? Sick, sick, sick.

Cory
Cory

Here’s my thing… I don’t want to say that this was “the last straw”, because it’s not. Victor’s been doing stupid $#!+ FOR. YEARS. and has never once gotten the comeuppance he so richly deserves. I’ve HATED Victor for a very long time. I get that he’s the antagonist on the show, and yes, I think EB is one hell of an actor, but I literally wouldn’t miss him one little bit if the proverbial “Powers That Be” killed Victor off once and for all. This was just the latest in a loooooooooooooooong string of $#!+ that Victor has done.

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su000

hey hey Cory, lol
I luvs Victor…
He is the flame that starts the fires.
Victor is the only one that has never bored me..
Heck, if I were 40yrs older I’d marry Victor, the guy would never bore me and I wouldn’t mind having game on him, would be a challenge.

Nick needs a rude awaking he’s a freeloading punk. aha!

Celia
Celia

LOL….Nick is not a punk, su…C’mon. He loves his son……as I told you a couple of weeks ago, the only reason Victor would get Christian would be in a soap’s kangaroo court…. in his case, arbitration.
I knew the writers’ loophole would be Sharon. This outcome was already written in the soaps-stars. Not in the real world. I can assure you of that. Victor has done so much harm ( equal to Beelzebub) and has so many sins for which to atone, he will have to face himself one day. But, all will be forgiven and forgotten.
But, SuzieQ, I get it…..Victor is a cancer, but a necessary evil, nonetheless. And, EB always brings it home.
Yet, although it would be a great loss, I have no doubt Genoa City will survive without him.
Victor has no heart—-what he did to his son is unconscionable. What father does that. Normal parents try to spare their children that kind of pain ( or any pain). Let’s not forget what he did to his son Adam, either.
On another note…..I finally caught up with Y&R…..I think JT is alive, and he is behind the cryptic call to Victoria and the sender of all those boxes to her office.

and endanger the child.
and endanger the child.

ahaa Celia 🙂
Nick can be a punk and a pouty weenie blaming his entire crap life on his mean daddy and yet love his son dearly.
And– Victors children have never wanted for a thing and daddy never failed to pull their azzes out of their failing screw-ups saving them.
It’s the good with the bad 🙂
Adam and Victor were quite even up and Victor did love and respect Adam, probably the only of the offspring he respected,Adam stood tall against Victor and their game was taking each other down.. I miss Adam.

Violet Lemm
Violet Lemm

Cory, you are so right.Some pathetic people think Victor is someone to look up to and admire. How sad is that? He thinks he suffers, with his crocodile tears, but he only shows punishment and hurtfulness to his own family, out of his own, sick idea of what love is. I will also be glad when he’s gone. To me,if this was a real person, I would dance on his grave.

Sheila
Sheila

Give christian back and that will be a good start.

su000
su000

The poll is missing an option–
‘Victor needs no redeeming’
I vote that ^^ that..
Victor is perfect the way he is, he IS Victor Newman, da`man! and perfection just the way he is.

Lisa
Lisa

In my opinion Victor is irredeemable. He has done far too much damage for far too long to be redeemed. The whole damn Newman family needs long term ongoing psycho-therapy.

Celia
Celia

Agreed, Lisa. Bunch of misfits….then again, who isn’t on soaps?!
Yet, albeit all her vanity and stuck-up-nose, Nikki may be sincere trying to warn Abby.
Could Arturo possibly be the Newman’s saboteur? Not JT. Too simple for it to be the latter……the writers are playing games? Steering us in the wrong direction and then back again?

Denise A Daniel
Denise A Daniel

Victor is human garbage. He set Phyllis up to be raped. He drove Sharon to a mental breakdown by gaslighting her with her dead child. I now hate all the Newmans because no matter what he does his family gets momentarily upset, they walk away but always come crawling back. That makes his family complicit to all of his heinous actions. I was so angry they had Nicki return to him yet again.
YR continues to write such unbelievable garbage too. They expect me to believe a man pushing 80 could beat the tar out of JT? JT’s half his age & in great shape. YR expects me to buy any court would give a toddler to an 80 year old man with his criminal record as opposed to Nick? Hell, no! It also stigmitizes mental illness.
I’m also over Eric B. acting like he’s asleep in all his scenes & never making eye contact with his scene partners. Wake up you old fart! Are you reading your lines on your phone/table or are you just too entitled to actually act?

SZima
SZima

No matter how hard they try, TPTB will never be able to redeem Victor. He has done, and gotten away with, too many horrendous things, and as far as I’m concerned, there is NO coming back.
If they killed The Mustache off tomorrow I would be overjoyed…dancing in the streets! The character was in the “Love to Hate” category early on, but moved to the “Hate” column years ago.

Cynthia Thibodeau
Cynthia Thibodeau

I believe Nick will find a way to get Christian back.Nick will find some dirt on his father.Like they say pays back is a bitch.

and endanger the child.
and endanger the child.

Hi Cynthia..
No, Nick doesn’t have a prayer of getting Christian back if he’s married to Saron.
She is poison in the court..
Victor paid for his crime doing his time.
Sharon is forever bipolar and she could go WACKO at any time and burn the house down (so it will be in court)
Victor will not lose custody but he will eventually return Christian to Nick.

Marsha
Marsha

Victor always gets away with murder. He never pays for anything. Wasn’t it being in the hospital enough for Victor to bring the family back together.

Celia
Celia

Agreed, Marsha…..we’re talking about a soap. In the real world no court would have given Victor, an old man, custody…..Beside the fact that Nikki is a an alcoholic with a debilitating disease. It’s dramatically hilarious. The woman prowls the streets of GC, her unwelcome ubiquitous presence stalking Arturo. Victor has one foot in the grave, the other in deep caca…..while Nikki has both hands on a pair of binoculars eyeing her ex boy-toy’s sexual escapades……and the, and the, and then?? She’s there, lurking in the shadows, behind a plant, coming around the the corner of a building……etcetera, etcetera, etcetera….
What a dysfunctional family!! LOL.

Tanis Marsh
Tanis Marsh

Join the discussion…

Tanis Marsh
Tanis Marsh

I got a smile out of this comment; better turn on the recording!

Mimi
Mimi

Victor is the show…he s the reason I watch and we may not agree with what he s done but it is what it is and I love him in the show!!!

Celia
Celia

Of course, Mimi…..as I said, Victor is a NECESSARY evil.
I cannot say I love Victor. He is a terrible parent, husband and human being. The Newmans would not have a tangible story(ies) without Victor. He is the kind of character you love to loath….But, I love Eric.
Unlike Sonny Corinthos whom I simply despise, no matter what.
As a thespian, Victor is one of the best.

Celia
Celia

Correction…..Eric is one of the best.
To clarify, I cannot not like Victor. I don’t know why. I like his scenes….not so Sonny. Inexplicable.

su000
su000

Celia !!
Victor & Sonny are my men (and Arturo)
I would marry all of them.
Victor and Sonny (would need to be 40yrs younger) and they would never bore me and I like a challenge and to live an exciting life.
and! I’d get a new car every year and Spa time.

and as for Arturo, all that’s needed would be pizza delivery and a bedroom..ehhaa! 😉

Celia
Celia

Oh, gee, SuzieQ!! You crack me up….you are a joy to read, LOL…love it.
Well, Victor and Sonny? Hmmmm…..neither has ever inspired the YUUUUMMMYY factor for me.
And, Arturo is my father-in-law’s name. HaHa….so, there goes that. Complete turn-off.
AND, I’m happily married. LOL.
I guess pizza will do with Arturo ( have fun!!)….but, with Victor and Sonny you will need more than that….I’d say, a few bottles of home-made Italian wine to numb the brain, su…..HaHaHaHaHaHaHa!!!!!!

Soaphound
Soaphound

I know Nick doesn’t want to sink to Victor’s level, but we can see where that’s gotten him. Why don’t they bring in that wimp Nikki’s glorious deeds, including multiple murders, alcoholism, flagrant adultery, public brawling, and umpteen breakups with Victor. If I were Sharon, I’d have stopped off to see Paul right after the verdict and fry Miss Nikki’s overdressed butt.

Violet Lemm
Violet Lemm

I agree with all that, and wondered why some of Nicki’s indiscretions, and what you said, were not brought up, but figured that Nick wouldn’t have allowed Britney to drag his mother through the mud, and actually show that she would be more of a threat to Christian, than Sharon. I wonder where Nick learned to be so loyal and respectful?

Celia
Celia

I had the perfect word for Nikki ( can’t stand her), Soaphound. But, I figured my comment would not post. LOL. I was going to say it in another language, but changed my mind.
It’s funny how some of these actors/actresses are the complete opposite of their characters.
Cane is another interloper I wish would disappear….with Devon…..and that new girl, Shanda?(sp). She overacts—scrunching her pretty face waaay too much.
I never thought I’d say this, but I am getting used to the Winters kids…..especially Charlie.
Hmmmm. These kids are playing with fire, Soaphound. Do you remember your fourteen/fifteen/sixteen-year-old-overacting-hormones? How rebelliously delicious they were?…. could never really grasp that intangible wonder?? Sweet, sweet memories. LOL.

Soaphound
Soaphound

Oh Celia, who put a boomerang up Cane’s, er, case? Why is he so mean to Jack? Is he that insecure at his questionable ability to run Chancellor? I wanted to smash his face right onto the barbie. I don’t mind Maddie but Charlie’s acting is still amateurish. Anyway these “summer romances” don’t click for me. Can’t wait to see what Nick has planned for Victor! And MISS NIKKI is really trying to sabotage Abby & Arturo? Talk about embarrassing!

Celia
Celia

Hey, Soaphound,
How and when has Cane transitioned into such a Chancelor family advocate and defender of the name? He’s afraid of his so-very-tenuous-position as both a family member and corporate exec.
He makes me cringe. I cringe even more when he and Lily go at it. You know why? I don’t know why.
I am still reeling over the disgusting affair between Nikki and Arturo. Why? I don’t get these writers. They only accentuate and perpetuate Nikki’s lack of morals, lack of self-respect and boundless impropriety.
Also, the entire situation was so weird……Artuto is young and good looking with probably girls swooning at his feet…..why oh, why hook up with a senior citizen? If not for the money, then, I ask, HUH??
I hope Arturo is not another Zach. I think he really is into Abby….but, what about that tiny little bra under the throw pillow? LOL….. his sister’s? Too small to be Nikki’s Ha!!

Celia
Celia

PS…..on second thought, Soaphound, would it be feasible to assume that Nikki has a key to Arturo’s apartment and purposely put that bra there? Maybe she stole it from Victoria. LOL.

Soaphound
Soaphound

You know, Celia, if that woman is SO desperate for a young stud, try the yellow pages under ESCORTS. Arturo makes me think some “creative” thoughts too but I’d never have acted on them after I hit age 25. Nikki is behaving like a fool. And to think this her most satisfying relationship since quitting “Mala Woda” (that cheap Russian vodka she used to swill). Maybe she should try to wrestle Paul away from Christine again. It should be his turn on the NIKKI-GO-ROUND!

Celia
Celia

I will never understand this writing, Soaphound.
TPTB may want to think about making Nikki relevant in a more palatable role—charitable work….strolling through the park with her grandchildren…..having lunch with her friends. Oh, wait….her friends are probably too wary…..she might hook up with their husbands, one by one.
And, I will never understand this farce of a marriage. Victor and Nikki profess this everlasting amour for the ages, when, at any given moment, they could kill each other. How can you love one person and sleep with another? This is nuts!!

Celia
Celia

I meant to say ‘overactive’, not overacting….My train of thought was stuck in limbo….between fiction and reality. LOL

Jynx0854
Jynx0854

Heck YES. They have redeemed many soapers.

Alan
Alan

Of course, Victor’s redeemable…with talented writers. Unfortunately, today’s soap scribes just serve up plot driven stories instead of character driven stories and as a result the characters have no subtext or true motivation other than to move the story along. Today’s soaps lack the three dimensional characters Agnes Nixon, Bill Bell, and Douglas Marland were known for: characters neither all “good” or all “bad” — they may have leaned more one way than the other but they still had shades of gray that made the viewer root for them even when they were doing the wrong thing because we knew they were doing it for what they thought was the right reason.

and endanger the child.
and endanger the child.

hi Alan..
No, victor IS victor and he should never ever be redeemed.
Redeeming has killed many a character. it has destroyed grey characters and ruined their vivid personalities and turned them into boring wallpaper.

Redeeming is very dangerous to a character.
and- it takes the danger intrigue Drama out of the soaps.
Soaps are about betrayal, tragedies and not so much sugar and honey.
All the memorable great characters were never redeemed and have never been forgotten. The all left their footprints never to be washed away and many still to this day are spoken of.
Redeeming kills intriguing drama-full characters and soaps.

Alan
Alan

Victor doesn’t need to be redeemed in the sense that he makes amends for all his misdeeds — the writers just need to quit painting him as so hateful and vindictive all the time. Few people are all good or all bad; clearly Victor is not going to change but the writers need to show us a few of his good qualities from time to time to remind us why we should care about him even when he is doing despicable things.

Pjc
Pjc

Its time that Victor dies on Y&R. I dont say it because i do not like Eric Braeden, its more that over the years Victor has gotten away with so much and he family disowns him only to reown him months later. It falls flat.

Plus, victoria, his daughter, was in a domestic abuse storyline and Victor is the most abusive man on daytime tv. He has mentally abused every single woman on the show Knowingly.

The pure fact that nikki needed to make a lame distinction between Victor and Jt to Victoria proves the writers realize this part of the character is enormous. victor is abusive. PLUS he knew of JTs abuse and instead of going to Paul he offered JT the chance to run if he didnt continue his search for evidence against him.

Sure.. JT IS DEAD, sort of. I have a feeling he isnt buried dead but soon will reappear because no judge should let nikki off again for UNINTENTIONALLY KILLING A THIRD PERSON and hiding that fact!

Back to Victor… his pompous reign of terror is over.

and endanger the child.
and endanger the child.

hi Pjc–
If, Victor were to die so would Y&R.
Without Victor, the Newman family would be wallpaper and Jack would have no real purpose if no Victor to battle with.
Victor is the pillar the cornerstone of Y&R, and that is fact.

Pjc722
Pjc722

Its time for the mantle to be passed to the next generation. It would be perfect if the person behind the cyber attack on Newman was none other than Adam. Revenge for seeing his father has not changed and only diverted attention and attacks on his eldest son now that Adam is “dead”.

Without Victor on the scene, Adam, who is cleared of killing Delia when the real drunk drover – the witness who saw his vehicle years earlier – confesses. At his side in his return is Chelsea. Adam, proving his wealth and power gets her community service.

Adam orchestrates a bold take over with rhe board of directors before Victor can do anything. He snarls and snarks and snaps but in the end Victor is voted out. Victoria is fine with it until the next morning when Nikki discovers Victor passed in his sleep.

Then the true battle – DALLAS STYLE / JR vs BOBBY BATTLE – ensues between all 4 siblings for ruler of the Newman empire.

Abby will drop out when she realizes its really not what she wants. Nick sees the damage and that he is turning into Victor and drops out. BUT NOT VICTORIA, with a half blllion dollar trust and her current inheritance, buys Chancellor from Jill and demotes but keeps Cane on. Adam wins Newman and becomes the new head of the family.

Jabot is still a HUGE player in town with Jack back at the helm with the reveal that Dina, to spice up their marriage was carrying on a faux affair with John and that BILLY is not an Abbott but the son of someone else when Jill finally reveals she had an affair with the gardener when was wasnt getting pregnant from John. (Remember for years we have all heard Jack looks JUST LIKE john)

Fix the mess.

Celia
Celia

You are so right,Pjc…..the crime is in hiding the fact. Protecting her daughter was self-defense, which any mother would have done.
As far as Victor dying? Hmmmm. He has a young heart….Colleen’s. LOL.
And, I agree….I never believed JT was dead. He probably managed to emerge from that makeshift grave. Unless, the PTB are teasing us. Someone else could be using JT’s credit cads.
Would he so blatantly use his cards knowing he could be found?
Someone must be aware of what the women did and using the ‘situation’ to the hilt. But, who?……someone who despises Victor with a vengeance.

Tani Sterling
Tani Sterling

I learn so much by reading this instead of watching; of course, as a fan, I will watch. It is the writers that, obviously, put Victor over the line of comfort for me. The torture storyline, plus assumed assumptions crossed that barrier.

Somehow one couple or family carrying on in a warm or perhaps loving and honest manner can hold a whole script together. Maybe that is why Mariah is so appealing for me.

Victor’s acting has been superb. It has gotten a bit lost that he still has not recovered from the accident but has stepped forward far to fast.

The stupidity of how JT’s “death” was handled must have had the writer’s in stitches!

If EB is not well he could pull back, but writers have placed him in line with the most Machiavelian schemes which might present a challenge to even Lucifer!

It is the writer’s that take Victor too far too often.
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Celia
Celia

Hey, Tani,
Very well phrased, my friend. I have been asking so many “whys” lately. Why? LOL…..well, what the writers want us to accept, eat it all up, goes beyond the pale.
I guess when I was younger, stuff was just soap stuff….now, as an older viewer, I expect more; in that, I need something more reasonable….something that whatever takes place in a court of law bears a little resemblance to reality.
Not even Victor has more power that the Almighty.
This is exactly how Victor is portrayed…..a pagan god. Equating him to God is blasphemous, actually….so, ” pagan” fits him to the letter. Victor and God in the same breath would qualify as an oxymoron.
Even Machiavelli knew his place, at a certain point. And Lucifer? You are right !! He is terrified of his Creator and Banisher.
Thus, are we to believe Victor Newman, a mortal, afterall, is invincible? More powerful than God??
Inspiring post there, Tani….great abstracts. Are you an educator?

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Sad news to report on Sunday as the soap opera community and its fans learn of the passing of Daytime Emmy-winning and noted soap opera producer, Lisa de Cazotte,

Lisa passed away yesterday on Saturday December 7th after a long illness at the age of 58,   From early in her career her love of the soaps and passion for it were evident.  She began right out of college as an intern on ABC’s One Life to Live, where she worked her way up to Coordinating Producer.

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Next, Lisa eventually became the Supervising Producer of NBC’s one and only Santa Barbara.  She spent time also on All My Children, before heading back to NBC and Sunset Beach where she assumed the role of Supervising Producer there.

However, it was in 1999 where de Cazotte became the  Executive Producer of Passions, which she helmed and remained till the end of its run in 2008.  It was a show that she loved so much.  She continued her career in the soaps in 2012 stepping into Salem and Days of our Lives where Lisa was named Co-Executive Producer of the series winning two Daytime Emmy Awards. for her efforts.

Sadly, now her final gig began in 2017, when she became Supervising Producer of The Young and the Restless and won her third Emmy in the process this past year.  De Cazotte was said to still be producing Y&R at the time of her passing. She is survived by her husband, Antoine de Cazotte, and her beloved brothers: Michael Patrick Smith, Robert Terence Smith, and Brian Charles Smith.

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Jason Thompson (Billy,, Y&R): We lost a member of the family last night, one of our producers, Lisa De Cazotte. I first worked with Lisa when she produced the 2nd season of “Night Shift”. Years later and currently on @YandR_CBS  She was kind and smart. Our thoughts are with her family.”

Eric Martsolf (Brady, DAYS): The kindness and opportunity this woman furnished me was immeasurable. We have lost one of the hardest working and graceful producers in our genre. I will miss you terribly, Lisa. #RIP”

Michelle Stafford (Phyllis, Y&R) “Sometimes you recognize those women who are part of “the tribe”. Whether you know them for 20 years or 20 minutes… they are still part of your tribe. Lucky for me. Godspeed beautiful Lisa”

Angelica Rosas McDaniel (Ex-CBS Daytime Exec) “Last night we lost a light in this world with the passing of Lisa De Cazotte. Lisa was smart, strong, kind, vibrant, an incredible friend and an Emmy winning producer on many beloved shows. I was blessed to know her. Sending love to her family and friends.”

Michael Logan (Former TV Guide Columnist): “RIP Lisa de Cazotte, one of the truly great soap producers. A real nose-to-the-grindstone talent, she never wanted personal glory choosing instead to do the work, quietly and fabulously. Her partnership with James E. Reilly on #Passions was epic.”

McKenzie Westmore (Ex-Sheridan Crane, Passions):  “Heart broken at the passing of my Passions EP Lisa!!”

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Michael Fairman TV will continue to update this section of the post as more remembrances are posted over the next 24 hours.

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Three of the four network soaps received nominations in the category of Daytime Drama for the upcoming 72nd annual Writers Guild Awards.  Nominations in television categories were announced on Thursday.

The annual scribe-fest is based on voting by 15,000 WGA members, and awards will be handed out in coinciding ceremonies in Los Angeles at the Beverly Hilton and in New York at the Edison Ballroom on February 1st, 2020.

The eligibility are shows within the 2019 calendar year.

The nominated writing teams competing in the Daytime Drama category are as follows:

Days of Our Lives, Writers: Lorraine Broderick, Ron Carlivati, Joanna Cohen, Carolyn Culliton, Richard Culliton, Rick Draughon, Dave Kreizman, Rebecca McCarty, Ryan Quan, Dave Ryan, Betsy Snyder, Katie Schock; NBC Universal

General Hospital, Head Writers: Shelly Altman, Christopher Van Etten Associate Head Writers: Anna T. Cascio, Dan O’Connor Writers: Barbara Bloom, Suzanne Flynn, Charlotte Gibson, Lucky Gold, Kate Hall, Elizabeth Korte, Donny Sheldon, Scott Sickles; ABC

The Young and the Restless, Writers:  Amanda L. Beall, Jeff Beldner, Sara Bibel, Matt Clifford, Annie Compton, Christopher Dunn, Sara Endsley, Janice Ferri Esser, Mellinda Hensley, Lynn Martin, Anne Schoettle, Natalie Minardi Slater, Teresa Zimmerman CBS

So, which soap do you think should receive the WGA Award for the best writing on a daytime drama series in 2019? Share your picks in the comment section below.

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On Sunday night, it was time for a Tinseltown tradition for the 88th time, when performers, floats, costume characters, bands and celebrities, took part in the 88th Annual Hollywood Christmas Parade.

The parade which strolls down famous Hollywood Boulevard each year saw participants from the soaps including current and past cast members including: GH’s Jon Lindstrom, Kin Shriner, Carolyn Hennesy, Leslie Charleson and Ian Buchanan, to Y&R’s Kate Linder and Sean Carrigan to DAYS favorite Patrika Darbo to B&B’s star Lorenzo Lamas and Ex-OLTL’s and B&B’s Andrea Evans.

Other stars in attendance included parade TV co-host: Erik Estrada, James Maslow, Bret Michaels, Mario Lopez. Josie Davis, and Scott Baio

Look for the national two-hour television premiere on the CW of the parade on Friday night, December 13th beginning at 8PMEST/7PMCST.   With rebroadcasts to come in your area so check local listings.

Check out below some of the pics with the soap stars below.

Will you be checking out the Hollywood Christmas Parade to see these soap stars when it airs beginning next week? Let us know in the comment section below.

Photos: JPI

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