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ABC and PEOPLE’s ‘The Story of Soaps’: What Was Your Review Of It?

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Tuesday’s night airing of ABC and PEOPLE’s two-hour special The Story of Soaps featured many notable daytime and primetime soap stars, past and present, clips from backstage to classic memorable moments, and some participants who were providing commentary on the erosion of the daytime soaps in our culture.  Still others, maintained and realized that everything today is serialized from the news we watch, to some of Netflix’s most binge-watchable series, and of course, the birth of reality-programming.

Throughout the airing of the special, The Story of Soaps was trending on Twitter and social media either at the #2, #3 or #4 spots for the entire duration of the broadcast presentation, and the cancelled and beloved All My Children was also at one point trending.

However, known soap writers, journalists, ardent fans, and actors of the genre, were all on Twitter last night live-tweeting their thoughts as the special went down, and there was definitely mixed reactions and reviews, when all was said and done.

What the special did not shy away from, but tackled, was Luke’s rape of Laura at the campus disco on General Hospital. and how that moment now, as Genie Francis (Laura), so eloquently put, would be considered as ‘date rape’ in our culture.  The series even included a pivotal moment where Laura addresses Luke (Tony Geary) about the rape years later, after helping Elizabeth (Rebecca Herbst) through her rape ordeal.

John Stamos (Ex-Blackie Parrish, GH) got a bevy of “Right On’s!” for his comment that the soaps do not get the credit that they deserve and clearly came through as one of the soaps greatest supporters, as did former The Doctors and Knots Landing star, Alec Baldwin.

However, throughout the two-hours, Andy Cohen’s commentary was thread throughout; mostly citing soap’s demise and the creation of reality-programming and his “Real Housewives” franchise, that the special touted as the new soap operas.  It continued on the narrative that people preferred to see real-life drama then made-up drama on a fictional soap.  And while, that has been a trend in American culture for decades, the commentary came off as often out of place in a celebration of the soaps; and bringing in a lot of negativity to the special that soap fans were tired of hearing.

In a lighting rod moment, Cohen stated: “I know Susan Lucci doesn’t agree with me, but I think that the Housewives have replaced soap operas because truth is stranger than fiction. Soaps became kind of unnecessary because you could do it with real people, and they’re writing the drama themselves.”

The special did also address the cancellations of All My Children and One Life to Live, (which many were not sure they were going to do – given this special was airing on ABC), where One Life’s leading lady and six-time Daytime Emmy winner, Erika Slezak (Ex-Viki) said what we all wanted to sa ywhen the ax fell on the towns of Llanview and Pine Valley, “People were horrified”.

Clearly, OJ Simpson and his murder trial and reality-programming were also given a chunk of time to show where the once mighty landscape of daytime soaps which once had 13 shows on the air, dwindled town to 4.  But, it would have been nice to see more time spent on how in this day and age, the people in this current landscape of the genre work so hard to get episodes done at an unbelievable pace, and how in that climate the performers still deliver gut-wrenching performances.

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Former Loving, OLTL and Breaking Bad star, Bryan Cranston, did point out how the once powerful soaps, just don’t have the dollars they used to, and need to, to help with production costs and their taping schedule.

Viewers were reminded of soaps’ socially relevant storylines including hankie-inducing moments from: Robin (Kimberly McCullough) and Stone’s (Michael Sutton) HIV/AIDS storyline on General Hospital, to Billy Douglas being a gay teen coming out on One Life to Live, played by a young Ryan Phillippe.

There also did not seem time spent on the contributions of William J. Bell; one of the most prominent writers of the soap genre of all-time.

For many commenting on social media last night, there seemed to be a feeling of some glaring omissions of participants who could speak on this genre, who have been in the trenches as soap producers, soap writers, pundits, actors, and more, who were not included in the special.

So, what was your review of The Story of Soaps? How would you grade it? Do you feel it accurately reflected the history of the genre?  Were you happily surprised,  or when it came to the end where you over it, or somewhere in between? Sound off in the comment section below.  Below are some tweets from notables who have worked as an actor, a writer, and a journalist in the soaps.  

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Very mixed feelings. Like others have said it felt like a death knell – with too much Andy Cohen spouting self-serving rhetoric of how his shows are the new soaps blah blah blah and nobody countering it with other perspectives. Way too much ABC and not enough CBS and NBC soaps. Clips roared past way too quickly. A 10 part series on PBS with no network bias would be great. The importance of As the World Turns was almost completely absent (not to mention Another World and almost every other soap). The clips brought back happy memories, I would have preferred more balance though. This is my favorite genre of entertainment and it is depressing that we no longer have ANY east coast soaps. The four remaining soaps are too plot driven and not enough character driven these days, and they are all west coast soaps, which has a different vibe than the east coast soaps (I love them all, just prefer east coast).

It is indeed extraordinarily self-serving to suggest reality programming has taken the place of the soaps while ignoring salient context: (1) reality programming can be produced much more cheaply (so it’s not surprising that networks prefer it to scripted programming like soaps and want to tout it as a “replacement”) and (2) what people choose to watch to get their “soap fix” in the absence of substantial real soap programming is entirely different from what they’d choose to watch if they still had the full complement of soaps at their disposal rather than the badly weakened, largely plot-driven, anemic four we have left (they have their moments but they’re hardly representative of what good, satisfying soap storytelling used to be, and they can’t realistically fill the kind of need the soaps used to fill). As I pointed out elsewhere, you can’t tell “The Story of Soaps” in any honest way without including a substantial treatment of how network and sponsor interference and mismanagement helped kill them–and we all knew they weren’t going to go THERE. So I suppose it was pointless to expect an honest, genuine exploration of the soap genre. But this sounds worse than I expected–even more superficial/shallow and less self-critical than I would have thought.

Major disappointment. And, a self-serving platform for Andy Cohen, even if he did say that was where he was led during the interview. What a pathetic excuse. I cannot tolerate reality TV. It panders to the lowest intelligence level of viewers/demographics, and is so heavily scripted and edited to hook in viewers, nothing about them is ‘real’. It makes participants look like they don’t have a brain in their head.

And, why was Jill Farren Phelps included? She has singlehandedly destroyed every single soap with which she has been involved. SMH.

Didn’t mention Santa Barbara or Port Charles. Heavy on ABC and lite on other excellent shows, both current and past.

It did nothing to celebrate and honor the history of stories that have grabbed our attention over the years. Or, that could continue to grab our attention if more committed and level heads prevailed (TPTB). It did everything to undermine the genre. I feel this is the beginning of the end. I don’t believe our beloved soaps can recover from either this show, or the pandemic. But, I would be thrilled to be proven wrong.

Sassy Duck…oh I agree. To me, that ANNOYING Andy Cohen got WAY TOO MUCH airtime during the special!!!!! As for that Jill Farren Phelps WITCH, I HOPE AND PRAY TO GOD that she’ll NEVER be allowed anywhere near B&B or DOOL…AT ALL!!!!!

Take care.

He ruined the show. Although, I still loved it!

PBS, great idea!

Where are all the Good Soaps

I have to question some of the people chosen to tell us “the story of soaps”. For every legitimate choice like Lorraine Broderick, there was a fraud like former ABC daytime chief Angela Shapiro, whose ridiculous and failed plan to emphasize marketing over story helped lead to the decline of the genre. Her reign was thankfully short, but the destruction she engineered was long lasting.

This did nothing for the soaps..it was all about Cohen promoting his Brava network and his reality shows…those housewives series is so fake-nothing real about them..soaps were always new five days a week so you really cant compare…while other shows were in repeats we still could depend on soaps to bring us something new…too many cable channels hurt…costs hurt-as did the hour format…the hour did work for awhile but it eventually hurt with addition of more characters and filler moments…30 minutes meant fewer characters and easier to include all in few stories plus back then it was character driven…in the last 20 years the shows are more plot driven…

He’s the worst. His time took away from the daytime actors. Such a waste. Although, I still loved it.

Only one thing I have to say…Andy Cohen is a horse’s ass.

Amen!

A BIG ONE. Ugh.

Y-E-P…and even more unwatchable!!!!!

Overall, I enjoyed it. Yes it focused too much on GH/ABC but I appreciated the mention of Loving and Generations, two great shows that never got much attention.

The main problem with the whole documentary is that it was poorly planned and vetted. The special was called “The Story Of Soaps”. Not the story of celebrating reality TV. What do Andy Cohen, The Kardashians and Bravo TV shows have to do with the story of soaps? The reality TV franchise is a force to be reckoned with but it has NOTHING to do with drama. The parallels to shows like Dynasty and Dallas, Knot’s Landing, and Falcon Crest had their place. Those shows would not have succeeded without daytime television. The first hour of the special was informative on the beginnings of the genre. It told the tale of Irna Phillips and Agnes Nixon but left out William Bell and his impact on the daytime industry. What about Douglas Marland? ABC is self serving in touting the Luke and Laura storyline. It was an important period for General Hospital but did they mention how they are basically leaving General Hospital to die? In the ideal world here’s what should have been done in two hours of television. Part 1 – History of the genre, from the beginnings to the successful period during the 80s and 90’s and towards the future for the remaining shows. Part 2 – feature the storylines that changed generations from Erica’s abortion, to Holly’s rape, to women in business with Alexandra Spaulding, to mental illness and gay rights. Show powerful performances from these stories. Part 3 – Speak with performers on these shows. Not just Genie Francis or Susan Lucci. Let’s face it, there are huge stars in the daytime world. Focus on the super couples. Focus on some of the greatest villains. They showed the scene where Valentine threw Ava off the turret but there was no explanation to why that scene even was placed there. Talk with the directors and producers – minus Jill Farren Phelps who singlehandedly did everything in her power to destroy the storylines of every soap she had a hand in. Did they ask her why ratings went down on every show she worked with? Did they mention she was fired from every show she worked on? Her and Andy Cohen must be laughing in a bar somewhere (a thought, i know most parts of the country are shut down) Part 4 – where are the remaining shows going now? What is their future? How can we protect them from ending just to replace it with another show with some wanna be starlet hosting a talk show about women who eat toe nails while really wanting caviar. They could have made an impact on the industry but instead decided to attempt to put another nail in the coffin. As for Andy Cohen’s comments regarding his housewives franchise, they are not real life drama. They are stories of made up in some think room. They do not cover socially relevant issues. They do not tell stories. They are instant pieces of gratification which is what is wrong with most reality TV shows today. Andy Cohen is not knowledgeable on daytime television. He is not qualified to make any comments on the genre because he has never done any research, watched a drama for years on end. He was the person who said, “oh that Erica is crazy” after watching an episode in a college dorm. He read about Luke and Laura in a magazine, but let’s ask him about some of the storylines from As The World Turns, Another World, Guiding Light, Santa Barbara and which four shows remain. I bet he can’t name two out of four. I am disappointed in ABC for taking a beloved genre that has made mega dollars for television industry people for years and basically giving it the finger. My thought as I watched the show was why can’t we get a network together like a Netflix or Prime or AppleTV and start a soap opera resurrection line up? Imagine each current show plus a few of the canceled shows back and running again. Some of the daytime stars have done some acting in digital limited run dramas on the streaming networks, let’s look into that avenue. The story of soaps is not coming to a close. The beginning is just a heartbeat away. Let’s let creative force intervene and see what we can create. I’d offer any services I could to help that happen. I currently watch 3 out of the four remaining shows. I have for years. I still cry when I look for As The World Turns and all I see is The Talk interviewing a Kardashian about her latest lipstick. Let’s fight people!

I muted Cohen & the talentless Kardashian’s. – so ugh!

Bravo, Matthew! Your critique of the program and ideas for the future are most insightful, impeccable, rational, and illuminating.

This special was ostensibly an opportunity to champion and respect the soap genre, but, like the Daytime Emmys, it fails miserably in part by showcasing (and thus wasting invaluable screen time on) celebrities who have no link to daytime. After decades, the networks still just don’t understand their audience.

Haven’t watched yet, but Real Housewives is not real. It’s contrived. They’re not all housewives, not friends before being cast. Trips and scenarios are set-up so don’t call it real.

Exactly. & Such talentless people.

Momo
And are ready to tear each other’s throats out at any given moment!

I had mixed feelings about the special too and to Andy Cohen, its not only Susan Lucci who disagrees with you about the RH franchises, wish I do enjoy, but sorry buddy they have not replaced the soaps. The landscape for all of TV has changed so to suggest that the soap genre is dead is wrong. Money is a big factor, so I believe soaps cut budget has hurt them significantly, still, as was pointed throughout the special almost all of tv is serialized a format clearly stlolen from soaps. Oh, and yes, clearly ABC wish only has GH left geared the special more to showcasing their shows, ( maybe not fear, but smart) and or balance, but I wouldn’t spend time advertising the other existing shows, but thats just me. Oh and to my local station who had the bad timing to interrupt for a weather update during the Luke and Laura piece, Your Fucking morons. thank you not.

It was great to have Bryan Cranston as a host discussing the importance of soaps and their impact on serialized TV series, such as Breaking Bad. However, there was far too much time spent on reality TV and not nearly enough coverage of the soaps themselves. I was very disappointed that my favorite soap, Port Charles, was not featured.

Santa Barbara wasn’t either. Sunset Beach. I don’t remember if Passions was.

I still miss All My Children. I made a vow to never watch ABC at noon the time AMC aired and I have not watched AMC at that time of day since.

Bring back All My Children and One Life to Live! Really Andy Cohen? Your dumb, fake Housewive shows are NOT preferrable to the soaps! Get real dude!

It would be nice to bring back All My Children and One Life to Live. However, in my opinion, not possible at all. ABC executives are not going to finance the return of those two shows.

No one wants reality TV.
Where did you get that idea?
It’s cleary a joke and has no story and no purpose.
I personally will not watch those shows they stink

What a bore. Not one thing new was shared. And what’s up with Andy Cohen dissing the genre in favor of his Housewives franchise? Real people behaving badly.

I really really really wanted to enjoy this and have a nice two hour break from our “pause,” but what a disappointment. If the focus was not only going to be on soaps then choose another title for the show. It was incredibly disjointed and didn’t know what to focus on. This should have been a celebration and booster for the soap genre Given the amazing talented performances over the years, but instead just came off praising reality tv and almost being proud of its power over the soaps, it left me with a bad taste in my mouth and it was not enjoyable at all. I should have just watched yesterday’s GH again!

Hi, “DiDi Bannister” of EDGE OF NIGHT here! The show did a disservice to the contribution of the black actors to the genre. Here’s a link to my Facebook post that addresses It. It struck a chord with a lot of people and has over 30 shares, so I’m obviously not the only one who felt that way.

https://www.facebook.com/mariann.aalda/posts/10219268276192574

Mariann, Thank you! I was particularly annoyed there was no mention of Angie and Jessie.

Mariann…I gotta tell ya’…to me, EDGE OF NIGHT was the ABSOLUTE BEST when it came to telling, unraveling and solving murder mysteries!!!!! Oh how I miss those days!!!!! Yep.

Mariann…thanks for listening. Have a good one.

I was very disappointed. It was supposed to be a homage to soaps not a place for Andy Cohen to spout off that reality tv is better than soaps. I don’t watch reality shows such as the Kardashians or the Real Housewives. It’s a waste of time. I was a big AMC fan and watched it from 1974 until it ended. I watched AMC when it was online and hoped it would continue. I haven’t watched another soap since. I would watch AMC if it was brought back

I LOVED IT! I got goosebumps watching the old scenes. Loved the Sonny & Brenda scenes. Loved the old footage. (I did not love Cohen. He didn’t need to be interviewed). UGH!

I too thought towards the middle of the show, what the h$$$ is this? I didn’t tune in to watch the self-serving promotion of reality shows or listen to how much trouble the daytime soaps are in. IMO , none of this belonged on the show, which I thought was supposed to be a celebration of the genre. I do not watch reality shows at all.
Of the soaps that remain on the air, I only watch GH and look forward to it returning, especially with the last episode ending in a cliffhanger.

I’ve never seen one minute of a “Real Housewives” show or anything to do with the Kartrashians. And I have no idea who Andy Cohen is but it sounds like he ruined this special so I will delete my recording-no need to watch. Get our soaps we have left back in production ASAP!

Too fast to really remember or enjoy anything. As the host, Andy Cohen was right at home as he is in his real life Soaps, that he calls reality. I have watched those shows over the years and if he thinks they are better than script written, he is as nutty and unrealistic as most of the characters he is so crazy about.

Sorry, my bad calling A.C the host, when he was only a commentator whose comments were unneeded and as usual, didn’t know what the he’ll he was talking about.

I thought it was sad. So many clips of long-cancelled shows and actors no longer working in the business. It was a vivid reminder of how far the entire genre has declined in the past 15 years and how little of what was good about it remains.

I’m so glad to learn I was not the only one annoyed by the attempt to convince the viewers that soaps are no longer necessary because, “Oh my, we have reality tv!” I despise reality tv. Please skip the housewives, the bachelors and bachelorettes, etc. There is nothing REAL about them. And the O.J. trial? I was so glad when that ordeal was over and my soaps were back. I can get news on the evening news. Reality tv is just a means for the networks (are you reading this ABC?) to save money. I watch tv to get a break from reality. If I want to watch rich people fretting about problems of their own making I’ll take my soaps, thank you. At least I’ll get some real story and great acting. I prefer fiction. It was great to see clips of old episodes but most of them zipped by so fast with little commentary about the characters and story involved. I really miss All My Children and One Life to Live. I was always an ABC soap loyalist and General Hospital is my absolute favorite. I did follow a couple of my favorite GH actors to The Young and the Restless and watch it now. Warning to ABC, if you cancel General Hospital I will delete my ABC channel from my tv’s channel list.

I would love to see All My Children come back, if not to ABC, but to Hallmark. AMC never jumped the shark with crazy storylines at the level DOOL has done for the past few years. I would LOVE to see Bianca, Kendall, Erica, Jesse, Angie, Jackson, Opal, Brooke, JR, Krystal, Tad and Dixie on my screen again. I miss their faces and would love to see a new generation of young actors.

I want all of the soaps back. We never really got a final ending on the soaps that have ended. They really need to continue! It is sad for us that loved our soaps no longer have them. Reality TV is definitely not as good as some seem to think! Bring back AMC,OLTL & GH, B&B. & GH! I miss my soaps & so do so many others! Please & Thank You.

I thought it was good. I really appreciated how much Bryan Cranston respected the daytime process. I was surprise Eric Braeden wasnt on much. Its an ABC show but Melody was on quite a bit. I wish they would have had longer interviews with all the current daytime stars and some from the past. Where was Ricky Martin and Jack Wagner? What about Kin Shriner? You can always count on soaps when a cooking show fails or a world pandemic hits!

LoL, I just watched it on YouTube. Didn’t notice much, except the same old ABC stories, justifying the cancellations, if you say it enough “they’ll believe it” sort of thing…
ABC,is what I’d call a ‘SLAG’,
at least ABC isn’t feeding the public ‘The Story of Oprah’!
just sayin’

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Mark Consuelos Celebrates One-Year Anniversary as Co-Host of ‘Live’ Alongside Kelly Ripa

Today, April 17th marks a full-year since Mark Consuelos (ex-Mateo, All My Children) took over the co-hosting duties of ‘Live” alongside his wife, and longtime co-host, Kelly Ripa (ex-Hayley, All My Children).

Consuelos replaced Ryan Seacrest who are six seasons decided to be back on the west coast full-time. For Consuelos, now having the opportunity to work off of Ripa as co-hosts has been something of adjustment for him, but viewers have been eating it up.

Live with Kelly and Mark has remained the No. 1 entertainment talk show on television over the past year, growing 3% in average total viewers to 2.23M per episode.  It is also the most-watched daytime talk show in the last year in key demos of women 18-49 and women 25-54. All of this, since the real-life marrieds teamed-up.

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Speaking with Deadline, Kelly Ripa shared why the two are gelling on-screen, “I do think that there is something very possibly relatable about our relationship. We have disagreements like a normal couple, and we’re not afraid to let them unfold on the air and in front of America, and I think people find a lot of themselves in that.”

Mark weighed in how he has progressed as a host, and what he could improve at, sharing, “I’d like to get better at my interviewing skills. I’d like to get better at reading a teleprompter…I think I’m getting better at throwing to commercial. The other day in the middle of the show as we go to commercial, my sign off was ‘See you guys around.’ I mean, the show wasn’t over. The most obvious thing to say would be, ‘We’ll be back right after this.’ But I just said, ‘See you around.’ So we went to commercial and one of the producers (goes) ‘What was that?’ I don’t know… So for the next few sign offs, as a joke, I’d say ‘See you around.’ We got a kick out of it.”

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Meanwhile, Kelly has given huge props to Mark, “I find Mark utterly compelling, really interesting, super funny, and he’s bold in a way like nobody else. He says what’s on his mind. If he’s thinking it, he says it.  I’ve done this a long time and oftentimes people will adjust their natural personalities to pander to what they think the audience wants to hear, and Mark will tell people what he thinks, and he doesn’t care if it’s not a popular opinion. It gives him an edginess that I think is really missing in the landscape today. Everybody’s so afraid to say anything, and Mark is unafraid to say exactly what he’s thinking.”

In a statement, Debra O’Connell, President News Group and Networks, Disney Entertainment shared, We could not be more thrilled with how Mark has seamlessly joined the show family as permanent co-host. His undeniable charisma and his and Kelly’s natural chemistry are evident as they deliver the laughs and smiles to our viewers each morning. We are incredibly proud of how Live has continued to evolve and that the audience is responding so enthusiastically.”

So, do you think Mark Consuelos is the best co-host his wife Kelly Ripa has ever had on ‘Live’? How would you say he is doing as co-host after one full year on the job? Comment below.

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Susan Lucci Joins the Cast of Jonah Hill’s Movie ‘Outcome’

Look who will be part of the ensemble cast in motion picture and film star Jonah Hill’s new film project! That’s right, none other than Susan Lucci (ex-Erica, All My Children).

According to Deadline, the daytime television icon joins other notables including Laverne Cox and David Spade who have been added to the cast of Outcome. The film stars Keanu Reeves, Matt Bomer (ex-Ben, Guiding Light) and Cameron Diaz.

In Outcome, which is written by, and will be directed by Hill, the dark comedy centers around Reef (played by Reeves), a damaged Hollywood star who must dive into the dark depths of his past to confront his demons and make amends after he is extorted with a mysterious video clip from his past.

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Soap fans know that following her iconic run as All My Children’s Erica Kane, Susan went on to be featured in Lifetime’s Devious Maids in the role of Genevieve Delatour.  Since her Pine Valley days ended (when AMC was canceled in 2012), Susan has appeared in numerous shows and made numerous appearances.  n December of 2023, Lucci was awarded the Daytime Emmy Lifetime Achievement Award.

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Outcome will debut on Apple and is an Apple Studios production. The film marks the latest collaboration for Hill and Apple Original Films, who are also developing a Grateful Dead biopic with Martin Scorsese’s Sikelia Productions, to be directed by Scorsese, with Hill starring in it and as one of the producers of the project, as well.

So, intrigued to see what kind of role Susan plays in Jonah Hill’s new film ‘Outcome’? Comment below.

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Jacob Young Shares Production Pic of Cast of His New Film Featuring Joan Collins and Nadia Bjorlin

Last month, during a livestream conversation on the Michael Fairman Channel, while promoting Jason Cook’s film, Four for Fun, and featuring soap notables Jacob Young (ex-AJ, AMC, ex-Lucky, GH, ex-Rick, B&B) and Brytni Sarpy (Y&R), Young revealed some intel on his upcoming movie project.

Jacob shared that he was set to direct, produce and star in a Agatha Christie-like murder mystery feature film, Murder Between Friends shooting in Prague.

The actor/director expressed, “I’m flying at the end of the March to Prague to direct, produce and star in a film with Joan Collins (ex-Dynasty). Nadia Bjorlin (ex-Chloe, Days of our Lives) is in it, and Toby Alexander Smith from Eastenders (ex-Gray Atkins). Plus, a couple of my Broadway friends and a very well known Czech actress (Hana Vagnerova). It’s very ‘Knives Out’ without having a hundred million dollars to shoot it, but still will be a lovely film nonetheless.”

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Young is currently shooting the film’s principal photography abroad through April 17th.

Over the weekend, Jacob took to his Instagram to share a photo with the cast of the film where pictured is former Dynasty star, Joan Collins (ex-Alexis) and former Days of our Lives star, Nadia Bjorlin (ex-Chloe). In addition, former All My Children star, Trent Garrett (ex-Asher) is seen in director-mode kneeling.

Trent and Jacob are both co-directors of Murder Between Friends Joan Collins shared the pic on her Instagram citing, “This was the #secret I posted about several weeks ago!”

So, looking forward to seeing Jacob’s film when it is released with Joan, Nadia, and company? Let us know in the comment section.

 

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