Or not….

Actually, Fox regularly features contributors with perspectives from both sides of the political spectrum…which in and of itself makes it a unique news network! But having said that, I believe Timmm was referring to all the other tv genres that provide precious little to no recognition or representation of the conservative values/opinions held by roughly half of the country who comprises a vast segment of any potential viewing audience. The personal ideals of such individuals are either completely ignored or mercilessly bashed because they don’t comport with those espoused in liberal Hollywood. I don’t necessarily desire to see “equal time” enforced for all entertainment vehicles, but it would be a refreshing change of pace to watch some truly apolitical, non-pc-all-the-time offerings! Anyone who enjoys partaking of retro shows knows that this was the general norm for decades, and not only did it make for excellent—and often timeless—products that appealed to numerous generations, but it didn’t serve to divide the nation with each and every episode, be it through dramatic, comedic or late night chat/variety programming!

CNN and MSNBC also regularly feature guests that represent both sides, so Fox News is hardly unique in that area.

Late night talk show hosts and comedians have been lampooning the president for years, be it Trump, Obama, Bush, Clinton, and so on. They made a cottage industry of telling Bill Clinton jokes, and many do to this day, and as a proud liberal, I had absolutely no problem with that. We didn’t go around whining and telling everyone how persecuted we were. It was fair game then, just like Donald Trump is fair game now. And particularly nowadays, when you say and do the things Trump has done and does on a daily basis, the jokes write themselves really.

But hey, there are always Leave It To Beaver reruns, right!

Oh Brian, you got me!

Excellent post…

Baldwin is a nasty guy. He isnt funny as Trump, he is mean and classless! You are right, Hammond was much better. Baldwin is a terrible husband and an horrible “Father!” BUT, in Hollywood, if you are liberal, you are dismissed!

For me, mean and classless is a candidate that does a mocking impression of a handicapped reporter in front of a group of his laughing supporters…

Shay…EXACTLY!!!!! Personality-wise…give me Darrell Hammond over that Alec Baldwin dude any day. Back in the day, to me, Darrell’s impersonation of Bill Clinton was TRULY LOL FUNNY!!!!! Yep.

Happy Holidays, Shay.

@Jaybird….Thank you, right back at ya….and Merry Christmas!!!! You know, when we speak of Clinton impersonators, the one who stood out for me was the tragically departed Phil Hartman….he truly captured the deeply sleazy, lascivious nature and good ‘ol boy insincerity of 42. Those particular qualities jumped out front and center to me from the very first time I set eyes on the genuine article, and Hartman just absolutely nailed them…it was uncanny! However, Hammond quite capably stepped up to the challenge of replacing his SNL counterpart in the role, albeit in a far less sinister and more comedic, tongue-in-cheek manner since his Bill lacked that innately creepy disingenuousness that Hartman so realistically portrayed. At any rate, Hammond certainly wasn’t at all mean-spirited in his take on Bubba, nor on Donald Trump. Both were always in cheerful, silly fun, as they should have been. Remember how he appeared alongside the real “Donald” when he hosted SNL? Trump was quite a sport about Darrell playing him….and I don’t think he’d mind him doing it now! But the Baldwin farce is another matter entirely….it’s just plain nasty and spiteful and it’s purely intended to insult not only the president, but all those who voted for him, as well! (Unlike Will Farrell’s eternal fratboy “W’….Even though I was once a great supporter of 44—but am certainly not now in light of his behavior during the 2016 election season and since—I could still laugh at one of my own and was not offended in the least!!!! I loved those clever catchwords Farrell’s President Bush used to create like “misunderestimated” and “dignitude!” That was taking a real life quirk of the commander-in-chief and giving it an amusing spin which is actually what good comedy does…)

I am not a Trump fan, but Dio mio, enough. As a democrat I am beginning to deplore my own party. I have eyes and ears and a brain, a fair one. I do not like how negative both the media and liberals are towards Trump. He was condemned and sentenced without a trial. I did not appreciate the lewd remarks, but the people elected him. Let him rule. It is not forever. He deserves as much as Clinton? Bush, Reagan and Obama, the fake, scaredy cat peace-seeker.
Even as a democrat I can see what good he is doing. The media never divulges the positives.

It is also very demoralizing how Hillary’s misdeeds are never discussed by the media. I am so tired of Hollywood getting on its uneducated pulpit pompously orating nonsense. Let us air everyone’s dirty laundry.

I was prepared to give Trump a chance after the destruction Obama left in
his wake. Prime example NK. Trump is not to be blamed for that debacle. All past administrations are. They were all aware NK was playing with nuclear toys. The missile testing has been going on for years and no one did anything about it. Here is a president who is trying to prevent the potential destruction of nuclear warfare, and he is blamed for that country’s myopic view of a deranged, unreasonable rogue.

Your comments are the best writing can offer, Shay. A pleasant read, indeed. I may not agree with some of what either side had to say, but some growing up is needed here. I would love to see both parties come together and talk productively , to inspire and do whatever it takes for the good of this country. Instead, they rip each other apart like first graders in the schoolyard.

I survived the Clintonesque Era. I never thought there were that many rats in La Casa dei Politici.
Both sides should all be castrated. Women are not objects.
So many tax dollars being spent to clean up these perverts’ messes.

Alec Baldwin should look in the mirror, as so many others with multiple personalities, before casting aspersions. It would not surprise me at all if some rumor came out about him. Irony at its best.

@Francesca Bruno…Molte grazie for the many kind words and thoughtfully-expressed sentiments you’ve posted since your recent arrival here at this website! Buon Natale e Felice Anno Nuovo!!!!

@Timmm.
Ha!!!! And you SLAY me, my T…..

Amen, Shay. You said it. Thanks.

And thank you, Gloria!

And when was the last time THAT happened???? You probably would have to go back decades to the years AB had a role in Knots Landing—which was the only point where I could just about stand him!!! (He was also then briefly engaged in real-life to GH’s—and later, Northern Exposure’s—Janine Turner! What a lucky escape for that lovely lady…she really dodged quite a bullet when they broke up!)

IMPOSSIBLE!

Why? When AJ has the best jokes

you said it Jim, it’s all politics now and there’s no class these days.

Jim, even Johnny Carson. He made fun of Ford and Reagan but it was light hearted and not mean spirited.

There’s no class these days is the apt description for the current President of the United States! Forget talk shows and comedians; it’s amazing how supporters can see ANY class in Trump other crude, rude, vulgar….an infant who spends more time tweeting than reading, who sides with neo-nazis, who sides with an accused pedophile against the women who accused him…it’s a freaking upside-down country right now! Abnormal and amoral is the new norm!

Bring on Alec and others to help us laugh through this twisted reality!

Even Jay Leno, uber-lib that he is, managed to be pretty fair-handed when it came to lampooning politicians of both parties. As far as I’m concerned, the only really notable exception to that rule was when he quipped about Dick Cheney’s medical condition, since heart problems are no laughing matter for anyone. That was definitely not cool….

Shouldn’t surprise you that a comment like that would be made, Steve. One thinks that if you don’t respect a man who slid into the presidency with no qualifications….and I’ll curb the rest of my “descriptives”…then you must be anti-American. It’s just part of the delusional thinking…like voting for a man in Alabama who is an accused pedophile. They vote for THAT man for office, LOL, but Alec is, in their eyes, unqualified to host a talk show.

Just as disagreeing with the previous occupant and the policies of his administration did not equal “racism,” but the left never failed to conveniently pin that term on each and every criticism the political right offered up.

Fallon does do political humor but much less than the other two and you are right, his ratings do suffer. It shows you how mean and angry Americans can be.

clairificaton..those who didn’t support him…(President Obama)

According to various reports from the “Save AMC & OLTL” Facebook page, ABC is “actively searching for an online partner” to re-boot OLTL and AMC because ABC only owns three hours of the daytime slots (The View, The Chew, and General Hospital).

Syndicated time is tough to get back from affiliates. Affiliates need that time so they can make money. And in a good chunk of the country GH is on at 2PM (with syndicated fare on at 3PM)

ABC doesn’t have to take the time back from affiliates. The network has a syndication group which released the Katie Couric and Tyra Banks debacles. If the Baldwin show goes daytime, it could be syndicated and carried by all the ABC owned/operated stations.

su0000, I just want to thank you for your reply below, and I want you to know how much I enjoy your posts and respect your opinions, even when we might disagree.

Merry Christmas to you and your loved ones… 🙂

This will probably be the only thing I say on this. I’m working hard in my own little corner of the world to enjoy the holiday season in spite of what’s going on in politics and sex scandals. Really don’t want another talk show on daytime or nighttime…I don’t care who it is. And I don’t watch much daytime except for soaps. But I do find it amusing that some who profess to not like what they call liberal news and programming, or chapter verse on Alex sure do seem to spend a lot of their time watching or listening to it. Add that to their own conservative programming and gurus, when do they have time to sleep? And if they can see the flaws in everybody else and even some soap characters, can’t ever figure out why they can’t see them in their choice of country leader when by actions and worlds it right there in front of your face. Unbelievable.

correction…”by actions and words”

You’re absolutely right, Rebecca. Sadly, the current U.S. president has done many frightening things and said (or tweeted) many frightening things.

Thanks for the backup, my dear Friend Rebecca… I was awaiting slings and arrows — and they may come — but so nice to hear from you! 🙂

As always, you make terrific points! And your first paragraph, wherein you address the pedophile endorsement and the shout-out to white supremacists, is spot on! That’s one thing I left out in my original post: the way the current U.S. president gives these continual “dog whistles” to white supremacists and racists. Of course, as you also allude, he did the same thing during the campaign. Also during the campaign, among all the many terrible things this man said, I will never forget the way he mocked a disabled man… I mean, what kind of person does that?!?!?!

I know we have friends here on the other side who I respect, and I know there are indeed good Republicans. But this classless president is in a class all to himself. He is bringing his party down while he brings the country down and has disastrous effects worldwide. It is frightening… I am indeed, as you say, “waiting for this surreal madness to end….”

Thanks for sharing your what you saw on the Jimmy Kimmel Show. Having been the target of homophobia more times than I care to remember or acknowledge, that type of attitude by that Republican is offensive. But you don’t have to be a member of a certain group to be offended by homophobia, misogyny, racism, or xenophobia. Those who spout hate and intolerance are sadly being more vocal, thanks to the cues they are getting from a certain commander-in-chief…

Ending on a more positive note, I also agree with your take on the comedians who give us some much needed laughter, including Alec Baldwin (I spelled his name right this time!). I would also give a shout-out to the “President’s Show” on Comedy Central. IT has been on fire! Some levity in these turbulent times are just what we need! In case we don’t connect beforehand, I hope you and your loved ones have a wonderful holiday!

Hi James…

We share much of the same reaction…horror, disbelief, disgust, etc…regarding this “presidency.” But I disagree in terms of party and certain reactions. It’s primarily the Republicans, the conservative, right-leaning demographic that is the least tolerant to alternative lifestlyes…except, it seems…pedophelia and the sexual abuse of women. Since voting for Trump AFTER hearing his tape where he admits to grabbing women and gloating that if you have power they “let you do whatever you want”…and voting in a congressman who bodyslammed to the ground to many who support an accused pedophile…there just seems to be a whole lot of twisted values, loyalties. I also can’t say I respect those who want to srip away health benefits, social security, medicaire and give more tax breaks to the wealthy under the guise that the wealth and jobs will eventually “trickle down” to the poor and consequently they’ll be more jobs. The utter train of thought is bull shite and greed. Greed, racism, anti-semitism; I’m just disgusted by the lot of them. (with a few exceptions who seem to be the “good guys” and get slammed for it within their own party.)

Anyway, yes, the ol’ cliche “laughter is the best medicine” holds true. Out of sorrow, fear, dark times…these hilarious recaps of the current climate is “a blessing.” 😉

Happy Holidays to you and yours, as well. 😉

Pray, the USA never losses our freedoms–
The five freedoms guaranteed by the 1st Amendment are ‘
speech,
press,
religion,
assembly and petition.
Collectively, these are sometimes referred to as freedom of expression.

I’ll weigh in on Roy Moore – have to

he’s running our government

I vote for reason – rationale – reality

etc

when they say – i’ll vote for Moore because he’s republican and keep the GOP in the running

because of their decision

it’s a majority not the floodgates

we vote again in 2018

People – unite – your word… keep within yourself first

@Rebecca1 ; @jamesj75

I LOVE YOU

to “all” posts ; LIVE

It is frightening… I am indeed, as you say, “waiting for this surreal madness to end….”

I don’t know the outcome

cheers i’m with you

@ you you and you

I stand by my post

solidarity on any given subject matter… outside of our fertile imagination … is

be it soapland or this past tumultuous year and looking onward

I can share with.. and it has a calming effect

thanking you for “listening”

Hi Patrick…

Love back at ya! Glad you’re “with us.”

Rebecca, thank you for your further reply and support. When it comes to politics, you are preaching to the choir! You make some great points with your political observations. Let’s hope and pray for the best…

You have my respect and fondness. I don’t visit this site as often as others, so I am not as well versed in the interactions of my fellow posters. As I mention below, I hope that any animosity here can be dissolved and that all of us, myself included, can do our best to be civil and understanding, even when we disagree. As I have experienced, one of the best feelings we can sense is the satisfaction, relief, and joy when we can transform a negative into a positive…

Best to you always, Friend. 🙂

@Shay…And yet you personally denigrate other posters on this site…delighted in an onsite argument here which started years ago, feel gays shouldn’t be in the military, don’t see any problem with a president who defended the alt right and encourage group bullying here. You denigrate actors you don’t like, mock them for how they look, how old they are and how they dress…and throw “slings and arrows within messages for all who care to read. Huh. Imagine that!

Speaking of denigrating, Shay, he or she of many names turns around and calls others crazy and downgrades their lifestyle. Isn’t there an American saying? Something about a kettle and a pot?He or she of many colours impersonates a diversity of both men and women with the same spiel. He or she is the typical man or woman without discretion, or country.

Our side? I am a democrat, by definition. There is a huge difference between democrats and liberals who take the democratic ideals of equality, freedom and truth and grossly spin it to the extreme. Therein lies the problem. There should not be a side. “United we stand, divided we fall”. That has been my belief in this country when I took an oath to become one of its naturalized citizens ( veni, vidi, amavi).I may have been young, but I understood enough and took it to heart. I can’t believe what I am reading. I find it extremely disheartening to look upon one’s fellow-American in such a light. What does that say about a person?

I would have buried my head in shame after that exposure of insulting anyone who does not agree with him or her, under a myriad of names. It still continues if you search hard enough.

There is no comparison between Jamesj and him or her. Jamesj is a gentleman. He speaks of what he believes and expresses his thoughts without hurting and perpetrating on others’ feelings, morals and sensibilities. That is or should be the American way, not this radical, incendiary bull. It is a sin to even associate his name with his or hers. I am still questioning his or her gender.

I know many republicans and Trump supporters, and many are so offended by being treated as lepers. They had a choice to make and Hillary was not it. Ironically, many of my democrat friends did the same thing. They would not touch Hillary with a ten foot pole. But, they do not voice their opinion for fear of being ‘banished’.

It is what it is. I do not like Trump. But, since he has been at the helm, I can’t find anything so dramatically drastic to want to unseat him.

“La vita e’ questa,
Niente e’ facile
E nulla e’ impossibile
Giuseppe Donadei

La vita e’ troppo breve per mangiare e bere male”.
Words to live by.

As you can see, Shay, food is affectionately incorporated within many Italian adages, lol.

Shay, first, I can ‘t thank you enough for your thoughtful, respectful reply as well as your generous comments. I am truly not worthy… I so much like you and respect you and your opinions. I feel the same way about other dear friends here, whether they share your political bent or mine. I will say it again: there are truly great people on both sides. I don’t like to see any animosity here, and I won’t get involved in any conflicts. I will implore my fellow posters: let’s do our best to be civil, understanding, empathetic, and forgiving, even if we disagree, soaps, politics, or whatever…

My dear Friend, Shay, I don’t paint all Republicans with same broad strokes. I know that not all Republicans are anti-gay. And I will make a promise: I won’t make any more posts of a political nature. My thoughts on politics are well known. I won’t beat a dead horse…

Now, Shay, I am sorry that you have faced racial discrimination. There is no reason or justification for that…at all! And I sincerely thank you for being supportive of gay people, and that includes me…

Further, I didn’t mean to be melodramatic — especially here at a soap site! — bringing my personal slights into the discussion. I faced bullying in high school, but that was a lifetime ago. In my senior year, everything became better, and I survived and later thrived. As an adult, there were instances of subtle discrimination or homophobia when someone learned or suspected I was gay. All those moments, ingrained in my psyche, helped make me who I am. But I never dealt with violence, and I have always stood up to bullies, in high school and beyond. Humor has also been a godsend to me, as have understanding friends and loved ones. So I am blessed…

Shay, thanks for the dialogue. I wish you and your family a Merry Christmas— and all the best always! 🙂

@Patrick.
Wow!!!!!!! You, you and you?????? You truly surprised me , Patrick. Well, shocked is a better word. I assume I am one of the ‘you’?????? Am I animal, vegetable or mineral? I, certainly, did not expected such from you.
We are all people, Patrick!!!!!!
After a hectic few days of canned/ dry food drive, toys for tots; feeding the needy…..I found a few minutes to check ‘it’ out, and here we go again. May we please end it? What will it take?
Is it not enough to hear those idiots at CNN ridiculing the President and his ‘habits’, such as drinking soda, in the midst of a terror attack in the city? Fools—FAKE NEWS!!!!!!
Thank goodness I do not watch daytime TV…….except for Spongebob and Disney programming , and some Peppa Pig.
Alec Baldwin is a madman……ask his brothers.
Aside: Shay, I apologize for monopolizing your inbox….could not find a link….smile, mon amie…

Thanks for your reply, Shay!

Grazie, Shay. Riverso gli auguri e felicitazioni. Altrettanto.

Me,three!

PS: he has a respect for the genre… he speaks so well of Knots Landing

you know.. if it’s in daytime… would he … prop daytime serial ?

he loves to speak about the art of acting… and it would be a boon for

something light, real, and give credit to.

ummm..
Alec is an actor..
He is paid to portray Trump in a comic satire way..
The words he speaks are not his words, the writers of SNL get the praise for the scripts.

Again, Rebecca, you make great points! I, too, disparaged Baldwin over that voicemail. Thanks for putting things in perspective. Take care, Friend! 🙂

You are not only a gentleman, but also a gentle man.
Thank you fervently, Jamesj.

I have recently and sparingly begun participating, but have been an avid fan of MF for years. I held my tongue for so long until I could not any more. I have a little more time on my hands as I only work three days a week.

I am very familiar with your sentiments and wether you agree or not, your comments are always written with care . Your courtesy and cautious manner of choosing your words caught my eye.

I echo your felicitation, Jamesj. Happy Holidays.