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NY Daily News on How Canceling Soaps Is No Sure Road to Success for Network Programming Execs!

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The New York Daily News has a great piece out today about GH getting a renewal and One Life to Live’s replacement, The Revolution being axed with the post titled, “ABC keeps General Hospital after finding that canceling soaps is no sure road to success.”  Ain’t that the truth!

The NY Daily News piece goes on to say:  “The lesson here is some soaps may still draw a bigger audience than some of the cheaper chat shows that replace them. In this particular case, it also could be a factor that Couric reportedly preferred General Hospital as her lead-in, noting the loyalty of  GH viewers and fearing she would be seen as the villain if  GH were canceled. With The Revolution averaging about 1.33 million viewers a day in March, around a million fewer than General Hospital, it didn’t turn out to be a tough call. Still, soap fans call it a win, if only because General Hospital has the lowest audience of the four daytime soaps remaining on broadcast TV and thus was the most vulnerable.

This means GH can now celebrate its 50th anniversary, on April 1, 2013. While that doesn’t guarantee it a 60th, or even a 51st, it does underscore that killing a soap doesn’t automatically solve the networks’ daytime viewership problems. Soap fans argue that even though soap ratings have been declining, so have all network daytime ratings. More people work now. TV viewers have 500 channels instead of three.

Soaps haven’t lost fans in greater proportions than other programming, their supporters say, and they have the added value of being an appointment show that builds loyal audiences.  TV watchers still talk about the wedding of Luke and Laura on General Hospital in 1981. Who remembers a guacamole recipe from a week ago? The tide is still flowing away from soaps. But the fate of this “Revolution” is a good reminder that if you throw away the soap, you better have another way to clean up.”

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Christy
Christy

YEAH! We are thrilled! I have watched One Life to Live and General Hospital since they started and tho I liked OLTL the best and was crushed that ABC would cancel 2 great soaps in one swoop… I am thrilled they finally saw the light that making that decision was not the best idea and best not to repeat the wrath of loyal viewers so soon again by canceling GH.

I don’t think ABC really thought soap fans would boycott their network, especially not in droves or be so vocal all over the web and social networks. I don’t think their daytime lineup could take a final blow of us walking out for good if they took GH off the air. Many fans are watching nothing but GH right now because of AMC and OLTL being canceled.
I’d sure like if Agnes Nixon got back the rights to All My Children and One Life to Live so that she and we can one day see our favorite characters again thriving elsewhere…. We still want our shows!
In the meantime, this is great that it’s going on to it’s 50th year and that is fantastic news!
I would like to hear from the replacement, I mean the revolution cast… didn’t they call soap fans a bad word. Well we showed them!

Jim
Jim

I think this is only another temporary ruse like Prospect Park and ABC will try again to cancel GH next year. They kept the worst of their 3 soaps and it hasn’t improved. They think fans will eventually get tired and go away. IMO Katie Couric is already the villain. Everywhere you read, she is despised by viewers. Her show will quickly fail as well. The revolution failed not due to soap fans but because it was a truly awful show with hosts who were not qualified and were annoying. Myself, I don’t care what any of them have to say.

Rusty
Rusty

I agree that this is possibly just a temporary decision. I think we’ll all still be worried about GH getting the ax this time next year. But I do NOT agree that the The Revolution failed becuase it was a bad show. It may have been; I don’t know because I didn’t watch it and that’s the point. As a loyal ABC soap fan I refused to watch either of the new talk shows when they came on the air. Thousands of soap fans did the same. THAT is what caused The Revolution to be cancelled – the soap fans boycotting the show that replaced their beloved soap. Don’t underestimate the loyalty and power of the fans. We loved those shows, and if ABC was determined to ignore our pleas to keep them on the air, then we were no longer going to support ABC. As of now, I only watch GH on ABC – nothing else, and that includes the local affiliate for news. If GH is ever cancelled, I will not watch the network at all. And of course, I can’t agree with you that GH is the worst of the three that were on ABC; GH is my favorite!

Jim
Jim

Thanks for the reply. Watch the revolution tomorrow, or any other day and see what you think. It is so bad I want to push a pencil into my head. I don’t think it’s fair to criticize something unless you know what it is, so I watched them and IMO they are awful. Soap fans did not put much of a dent in the ratings of the chew which has been about the same as AMC and it has not been cancelled. So it can’t be just soap fans. I wrote GH was the worst because it had the lowest ratings. I should have written that. I’m glad you like it, someone should. IMO Ron and Frank have made it worse. As a GH fan, what do you think about them?

Rodd
Rodd

Christy, I agree with you about wishing Agnes would get the rights to AMC and OLTL and bring them to another channel. In fact, I was recently reading the weekly prime-time TV ratings in USA TODAY and noticed the the CW’s YTD ratings average 1.8. That’s nothing to crow about. Soaps often do better than that. So why doesn’t the CW scoop up these cancelled shows? They’d have fans yakking about it for years and gains tons of loyal viewers who are starved to see their favorites return. It’s a win-win.

BETTY
BETTY

We have all said it over and over again but we who work filmed our soaps to watch at night. And I although we may not watch all the commercials I have often found myself rewinding to watch certain commercials because it got my interest, or because it had someone I like on it. So, what I am saying is you don’t know who is watching, yes I know you gather info on who is filming but I am certain you are wrong because the other people I work with still talk about GH when we get together and everyone wants to know what happened. ONTL was my favorite too but so far we are getting some ONTL/GH blending that may bring some ONTL fans back. ABC should be doing more to advertise that. I like Katie Couric but I think she is making a big mistake, yes we are not about to support anything that is not a soap in daytime programming at ABC, they strong-armed us away.

Veronica
Veronica

The biggest reason networks are getting rid of soaps is that they are no longer profitable. They take a lot of money to make and are hardly turning a profit anymore. The Revolution tanking was almost predictable. It didn’t even test well before it aired. ABC can’t say they didn’t see this coming. The “solution” is not rushing a bad replacement on the air just to get rid of the soaps post haste. Actually, the last statement in the New York Daily News is so true.

“The tide is still flowing away from soaps. But the fate of this “Revolution” is a good reminder that if you throw away the soap, you better have another way to clean up.””

Torrey
Torrey

Agree with you. I do think that ABC could have approached this cancellation of the soaps a little better. I’m gonna go on record as saying, All MY Children had a truckload of problems, and it hadn’t gotten to the point that it was completely ridiculous. Although, I don’t wholeheartedly agree with the cancellation, I can see how AMC got the axe. Now OLTL, I am still scratching my head on that one. It was the highest rated soap on the network…and ABC is still feeling the repercussions of canceling OLTL, which speaks volumes for how popular the show was. I just feel that there were better decisions that could have been made, to restructure the shows, in order to save the all mighty dollar that the networks are so concerned with. Cast cuts, reducing the show down to a 30 minute format…people may not have been crazy about that, but it’s better than not having the show to watch at all. Even if they would have gone to a primetime format, where the shows air nine months out of the year and have a 3 month break, some time throughout the year…..they could air September and October…take November & December off…come back in January and run until July, where they have a Summer finale then come back in the fall. It would take a little getting used to, but I’m sure soap fans would have preferred this option over cancellation. My point being is they didn’t even try other options….it was just a clean the house moment, without any thought put into. Now ABC has put themselves in a precarious situation to where they have lost viewers….and lost their trust as well…now they have to walk an extremely careful line, to ensure that they don’t completely sink the network….which is why I think they gave GH another year. I’m keeping my eyes on them….cause this renewal could be a setup, just like Prospect Park was for saving AMC & OLTL….

I am finding myself tuning in a little more each day, with GH…so we’ll see how things go. I wish them the best, and don’t want the hardcore GH fans to have to go through what the fans of OLTL went through.

Keith
Keith

I disagree. Soaps made lots of money for the network. OLTL was always under budget. Ironically, it was GH that was often over. The management just didn’t like them personally. They want more talk to get out their political message. ABC repeatedly tested The Revolution with focus groups and made changes to improve it and they consistently hated it, but they went with it anyway. Earlier versions were worse, imaging that. I do agree they could have gone to several other formats like primetime or telenovella. I have often wished they would have shown reruns or older “classic” episodes.

kay killgore
kay killgore

Could not agree more!!!!

terri k
terri k

and they still are not bringing back oltl or amc : (

Jules
Jules

Nice article. Very well written and has reiterated what we’ve all been saying for a long time.

stephanie
stephanie

Very good points. Hopefully NBC will recognize this and leave Days of Our Lives alone.

MiCHELE
MiCHELE

I so agree,they thought we would sit down ,shut up and watch whatever drivel they put on the air…WRONG ABC.I hope a lesson is learned here,we love our stories and for the record we know how to dress and how to set a table….and we are tired to being told what to do how to do it etc.Bring back OLTL,,,,and we may give ABC another chance…maybe.I think they are beginning to see that we LOVE our stories and we will fight as long as it takes to keep them on.

Trapper
Trapper

Great article! I do agree that daytime viewership has been declining for the last several years. But in the case of soaps, I’d be interested to see how many people don’t watch the soap live, but DVR it for later, or catch up on the almost defunct SoapNet. I think we’d find that viewership hasn’t dropped off at all. The same can’t be said for the game shows, talk shows and infomercial shows that the networks continue to try to replace soaps with. One Life to Live, for example, was a show that I’d use as an excuse to take a break from work, eat lunch and catch up on Llanview. What do I do now? Check my email and keep working. I’ve got no use for these sterile, cheaply done shows. I want programming that engages me, that I look forward to. The replacement shows just aren’t it.

I’ll be one of the ones that watches GH and then turns it off when Katie Couric’s show is on. The last thing I need is one more talk show. We already saw how well a non-soap show did with the titanic sinking of The Revolution. I’ve better things to do with my time.

Elhu
Elhu

I totally agree with Trapper. I think a huge part of the viewership problem is in the “rating system”, because a majority of the ways people tune into their soaps is not being counted (i.e. DVR/Tivoing does not count unless it is viewed within 48 hours (so I have heard),and watching soaps on youtube or on soapnet, I believe, does not count at all). This system is so flawed and must be updated.

kay killgore
kay killgore

I always wondered how it worked thanks for the info!! To watch for me I have to watch DVR most of the time.

Elhu
Elhu

You are welcome Kay. I received the same info from someone on this site as well, and was glad to find out how it worked too. Which also tells me that you and I are not the only ones who did not know how the rating system worked, and if that information was out there more readily for many to see and absorb, than I am sure more viewers would also be counted, because they would know what needed to be done, to be counted.

Sheryl
Sheryl

Great article but, they still don’t realize what the fans want, we want our AMC and OLTL back.

Jan
Jan

“YAY!”

Joe
Joe

Me and everyone in my house only watch GH on ABC now. We refuse to EVER watch the network again unless OLTL is brought back or they make up for it some how like a TV movie or something to wrap it up and if they keep GH on the air.

Christine
Christine

“This means GH can now celebrate its 50th anniversary, on April 1, 2013.”

NO it doesn’t. Not until ABC announces it. Just because they canceled The Revolution is no guarantee.

Out here in Southern California there is an extermination company whose logo features a man wearing a top hat and a long black coat bending over to a mouse (looking like he is making nice) while he has a MALLET behind his back. Folks, we, the fans, are the mouse, ABC is the man in the top hat, and Katie Couric is the mallet.

Speaking of Katie Couric, has anyone heard the rumor about her actually doing an arc on General Hospital to come across as a “fan” of the show? This is such BS it is not even funny. Sure, she comes on GH for a few episodes to get people to like her, her show debuts and then POOF, bye bye GH.

lipstickcat
lipstickcat

Let’s not let Couric use the soaps for ratings the way Doprah did! Don’t watch her! Let her show be an even bigger failure than The Revolution!

kay killgore
kay killgore

You will not have to ask me twice not to watch Perky Katie!! I know people personally who have met her she is not a nice person and she is no lady makes a sailor blush with her trash mouth!

barbara t
barbara t

lipstickcat ,you are right ,Theres no way Im watching katie couric or any other dopy show abc/disney puts on ,as far as I am concerned they renewed general hospital for 1 years that is cheep thats not a network that is committed to the soap,there just passing time and trying once again to shut us up and I am not going to do that ,If abc/disney cared or had faith in general hospital they would have renewed it for 3 or 5 years 1 year ,there trying to shut us up like the pp garbage.And your right about doprah to.

Elizabeth
Elizabeth

As others have mentioned I watch GH, but rarely do I watch it at the time it’s actually airing. I use my TIVO, which I would imagine a lot of other people do as well. There are way more soap fans than ABC is willing to admit….

Barb Harnedy
Barb Harnedy

that is so true!!!

lisa658
lisa658

Thank you for the article. Soap fans are very loyal. I have been watching for 49 years and now I look forward to the 50th.

sue
sue

I cant believe ABC doesnt make a big profit from GH.
If they cancel GH their profits will really drop, all the GH fans will boycott ABC.

jon teitell
jon teitell

great commentary!! soaps are the life-blood of many, many people. Those who work, simply dvr them and watch at night. If the networks counted all the people watching on dvr or online, then the rating would be different. i for one, would never dvr the revultion or the spew in a million years!! the networks need to get into the 21st century and learn how to count those who watch, whenever, not what they might watch if they forget to turn off the television while they are at work!! 🙂

MBmomof3
MBmomof3

Glad to see another great article about daytime t.v. The fans are still here, but our viewing habits have changed. I REALLY miss OLTL and predicted The Revolution’s demise along with many other soap fans boycotting ABC/D except for GH.

angela
angela

ABC made a huge mistake with the cancellation of AMC and even bigger one with OLTL. The way I see it they have all these big wigs over there making all this money and no one understands they daytime audience or even realized the answer to production costs was right under their noses. It’s called SoapNet. They could have taken all 3 soaps put them on SoapNet and then made SoapNet a premium cable channel. Even if they charged $5.00 a month do the math. $60.00 a year times 2 million viewers. They would have made more than enough to cover production costs. I would have gladly paid to keep my soaps on tyhe air and I’m sure many others would have as well. But as we all know that asshole Frons HATED soaps so of course they were cancelled. It’s been a devastating blow to all the fans. So they are letting us keep GH……for now. Me personally I will never trust abc again which is why I watch nothing on abc except GH.

Vickie
Vickie

I, too, would have happily paid to keep my soaps on the air!!

Shelly
Shelly

Great article! But not “new” news. Soap fans have been saying it (screaming actually) for the past 10 years with the cancellation of Passions, Sunset Beach, Guiding Light, As the World Turns, All My children, and One Life to Live. We went ballistic last year when 2 were cancelled at one time and still, some idiot said “we’ll retrain you to watch the new stuff”. I hope ABC has learned a very valuable lesson: soap fans matter! I truly believe this GH extension is just a temporary reprieve to 1) shut up the fans 2) try plan “C”, GMA in the afternoon, and give it a chance to build an audience. 3)Get GH to the 50th anniversary next April. That network is determined to kill all the soaps. WATCH GH!!!

Kelly
Kelly

I don’t watch anything on ABC anymore except General Hospital. I will not stay loyal to a station that takes off my favorite shows. I have been watching All My Children and One Life to Live for over 30 years. To just cut them off is so mean. I wish another station would take these shows on. A lot of fans would be very grateful. We miss the characters, the stars and even the sets. (Screw the Chew!!)

andrea
andrea

long live soaps. It keeps me out of the mall!

kay killgore
kay killgore

I guess we could send the soaps to China since they almost do everything else! Can you imagine Victor & Jack on Y&R talking Chinese or Jason & Sonny on GH! Just kidding!!!

Barb Harnedy
Barb Harnedy

If someone would simply develop a way to count the number of people who watch the soaps on DVR or on SopaNet, they’d realize the soaps have A LOT MORE viewers than the Neilson ratings show. And as for watching the soaps on DVR and NOT fast-forwarding through the commercials or watching it doesn’t “count”….that’s total bs, because how many of us watching any show “live” doesn’t use the commercial to raid the kitchen, use the bathroom, etc. I am so happy that GH will live on for at least another year, but I still miss One Life to Live and All My Children!!!

Heather
Heather

Congratulations to all soap opera fans for our success in getting rid of The Revolution.

However the fight must continue. Realistically, there’s nothing that can be done to bring back AMC and OLTL. It would cost too much to bring the soaps back. Not to mention many of the actors and crews have moved on to GH and other soaps.

However the battle must continue to insure that both GH and Soapnet remain on the air. So keep sending your letters to Disney.

Having GH renewed is one battle. But keeping on the air for many more years is another battle.

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GH’s Steve Burton & Bradford Anderson Give The Lowdown on Their New Series ‘7 Questions’ & Their Creative Partnership

What started out as an unlikely on-screen pairing and friendship several years ago on the daytime drama, General Hospital has flourished, and become something even much greater than that. Knowing they struck gold with their characters being the antithesis of each other – one’s a hit man for God sakes, and the other an awkward computer geek, Steve Burton (Jason) and Bradford Anderson (Spinelli) began to conjure up how they could parlay their on-screen and off-screen friendship into other creative avenues.

As fans of the popular soap stars know, these guys travel around the country performing their comedy act, Stone Cold and the Jackal to packed houses. They have a weekly podcast, now on the Podcast One network, That’s Awesome and have also been concentrating on delivering even more content to their audience via their You Tube page, with their latest collaboration 7 Questions with Steve and Brad; where the two take on some questions and answer them with some clever elements wrapped up inside of each installment.

Not a week can go by without Steve and Bradford releasing something new to whet the appetite and keep engaged their enduring fan base. While everyone is facing together the disruptions in our normal everyday lives due to the coronavirus pandemic, Steve and Bradford are using this time wisely to expand their reach while creating even more fun content within their wheelhouse.  So, who know what could be next, right?

Michael Fairman TV chatted with Steve and Bradford to get the Intel on their success, their new You Tube series via their page, and more.  And of course, we couldn’t let this opportunity go by without putting them in the hot seat and asking our own ‘7 Questions’.  Check out what they had to say below.

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How did the idea originally come about for 7 Questions with Steve and Brad?  What was the inspiration behind it?

BRADFORD: We want to put out as much content as we can and as much entertainment as we can for people, especially during this time.  We’ve done a lot of work on our Facebook page, and we realized that we make so many videos, why the heck aren’t we putting them on our YouTube page?  With that, Steve kind of had this idea. Steve will talk about his inspirations for the visual component of it, and it was kind of a no-brainer.

I just also would like to know whose idea it was to have the MTV-ish voice-over gal for the interstitials of ‘7 Questions’.  That’s one of my favorite parts, by the way!

STEVE:  That’s me! I’m a kid of the 80s.  I love the 80s.  It’s what our brand has been.  We use a lot of colors that are 80s, and that’s our demographic. They relate to it.  With ‘7 questions’, I had no idea what it was going to be, really.  Bradford and I talk multiple times a day, and we are always thinking of ideas. We do our podcast, “That’s Awesome!” and then, we do a bonus podcast now every week that is 15-20 minutes, and that we put it up on YouTube as well.  With the way things are, we want people to laugh and have fun.  Now, usually Bradford does all of the heavy lifting with the technology.  He edits the podcast, he uploads it, he does all of that stuff, and I’m like, “Let me just try it.”  So, I do the sound effects and graphics in these.  I’m laughing while I do it, so I’m hoping people laugh, too.

BRADFORD:  In the beginning, Steve kind of wanted to make it like a morning show, and it my head, I thought he meant like a morning TV show, so I was a little confused by that! (Laughs) What he meant was like a disc-jockey from the 80s on the radio – the kind of show where they use the silly horns when there is a joke, or a lot of ‘whiz-bang’ sound effect, and stuff like that.  It’s fun to see Steve’s creative self come out and play.

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STEVE: The ‘7 questions’ episode out now with Josh Swickard (Chase, GH), is amazing.  Well, it’s amazing because of the sound effects I put in of course, but it’s also amazing because Josh Swickard is on it. (Laughs)

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You guys have been able to get along so well it seems from your podcast, to your YouTube videos, to your regular on-screen relationship at GH, and then, you do comedy clubs appearances around the country together.  Why do you think it works so well between the two of you? 

BRADFORD:  That’s a good question.  I think we have very similar goals.  We understand each other’s instincts a little bit.  So, we can navigate.  Sometimes, I can tell when something is going to frustrate Steve.  I steer that around him, and he certainly does the same thing for me.  He knows what frustrates me, and he’ll take care of that.  The cool thing about us is that neither of us are combative people.  We never bring our outside crap into our relationship.  We’re not that kind of people.  We are very positive people, and I think that really helps.

STEVE:  It’s always dangerous to get into business with friends.  That’s the first thing I can say because in the past that’s happened to me, and it hasn’t worked out.  I think Bradford and I just have a great mutual respect for each other.  I don’t want to say that it’s almost like a marriage, but it kind of is, because we are together so much.  We work together, we talk every day, and we are always collaborating on things.  There are always things that come up.  Most people wouldn’t even know the stuff that comes up with the podcast or with the live shows, and it takes a really special partnership to forge through that and still have fun.  That’s what the key is because I know plenty of people who are in business relationships who aren’t happy.  They’re just doing it for business.  If we ever get to that point, he and I just need to walk away.  It’s just a really great relationship where we are continually pushing each other, and where we are continually growing.  I never have to worry about what he is doing, and he never has to worry about what I am doing.

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BRADFORD:  That’s a really big deal.  I’ve never even thought about that because we’ve never had a ‘come to Jesus’ moment where it’s like, “Hey man, you’ve really got to start pulling your weight here.” (Laughs)

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Ok guys, I have a lighting round of ‘7 Questions’ for you.  Here we go! Question number 1! What one word describes your initial impression of each other when you first met?

BRADFORD:  “Muscle-y”

STEVE:  That’s not a word, dude!

BRADFORD:   It is.  I made it.

Steve, what’s your one-word initial impression of Bradford when you first met him?

STEVE: “Interesting…”  Can it have an ellipsis after it?

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Question number 2: When rehearsing your comedy show, which one of you has the most trouble remembering what comes next?

BRADFORD:  I’m going to say Steve, but there is a caveat.  The way that his set is designed, he does about 20 minutes of just talking.  Mine is song, talk, song.  So, there’s an order for mine… but for Steve, remembering half an hour’s worth of stories is hard.  That’s what I would say.

STEVE:  I would say me, too.  We are both pretty on it with our structure and what comes next pretty naturally, but there’re times when Bradford is like, “Hey, over here.”  What the audience doesn’t see is I go, “Oh yeah!  Hey!”

BRADFORD:  But we’ve been doing this for so long that we’ve both had our senior moments.  Neither of us is immune to a hiccup here and there.

Question 3: You both are super-high energy guys. After your performances, who has more trouble decompressing and coming down to earth after the adrenaline rush of playing in front of a crowd?

BRADFORD:  I can sleep anywhere at any time… so can Steve.

STEVE:  Usually, I can sleep anywhere, but after a show, I’m hyped!  I’m like, “Let’s go!  Where are we going?” Bradford’s like, “Give me a glass of wine, and a nice meal, and I’m going to bed,” and I’m like, “Oh, no, you’re not.  You’re not going anywhere near a bed!  We’re going out.”

BRADFORD:  Part of the problem is that we drink a Five-Hour Energy before the show, and our show is only 3 hours.  There’s that extra 2 hours. (Laughs)

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Question 4:  What do your wives; Kiera and Sheree think of your ‘7 Questions’ and your comedy show? 

BRADFORD:  I was nervous the first time my wife came to our comedy show, because she’s actually a pretty talented comedian.  She knows comedic timing really well.  The first time Kiera ever saw our act was when she helped us do a GH Fan Club Weekend show.  She told me afterwards, “I don’t want to hurt your feelings, but I had kind of low expectations, and you guys are hilarious.”  You know, I was a guy who kind of waited for the phone to ring because that’s what the life of an actor kind of just tends to be, and now what’s been so wonderful for me is becoming a creator, becoming a collaborator, and how it has really just changed my approach to work in general.  So, my wife is proud of me, and thankful to Steve for that.

What does your wife think, Steve?

STEVE:  My wife saw 7 Questions, and she loves that.   She’s seen some comedy bits that I have shown her on my phone, but she hasn’t seen a full comedy show yet.

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Does Sheree like the comedic side of you?

STEVE:  Yeah, I don’t know if most people know that I may have a sense of humor because literally when we go to the shows, people are looking at me like I’m an alien like, “What the hell is going on up there?”

Right! It’s such a departure from what they envision as this image of you from your role on General Hospital to when they see you do something different. 

STEVE:  Right.  I’ve always kind of been kind of high-energy, and I don’t want to say funny, but I at least have a sense of humor and can crack jokes.  That was one of the first things that kind of connected my wife and me.

BRADFORD:  On stage, Steve’s a great storyteller, but what we’ve done over the last couple of years is really try to hone those stories in a specific way, like really make sure that the timing is there, that the setup is there, and all of that.  I think at the beginning, both of us were a little self-conscious about that because it was new to us.  I could sing a song and not be self-conscious about it because that’s what I did for most of my life.  This is new to us, and what I have loved seeing over the last couple of years, is Steve’s growth as a performer.

STEVE:  Thank you, buddy.

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Question 5:  Do your kids understand what you do for a living? What do they think that you do?

STEVE:  My kids aren’t sure.  My daughter who is 16, she gets it.  My son, he hasn’t seen a lot of scenes from GH, but I showed him once he was able to understand some and he was like, “What do you do?”  I said, “I’m the Fonzie of daytime.”  He said, “Who’s Fonzie?”  (Laughs)  My 5-year-old really doesn’t know.  She thinks I go on the road more than I go to work.  She’s like, “Oh, are you doing your thing with Bradford?” She sees me working on my stuff with Bradford, and she’ll be like, “7 questions with Steve and Brad!”  She’ll walk around the house and say that.

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BRADFORD:  My 8-year-old, Juna knows that I’m on TV.  There’s been a couple of times when we have been watching the news over the last couple of weeks, and the California governor will have press conferences, and it will then cut right into General Hospital, and there was one time that it just cut into me.  It’s been a long time since they’ve seen me on the television.  So that was cool.  There are a couple teachers at their school who are fans of the show, so that gives the kids a bit of a chuckle.  Juna will say to my 5-year-old, Finola, “Hey, Finola, come over here.  We’re going to be on dad’s podcast.”  So, anything technical, any video, she calls “a podcast”.  She doesn’t quite get that part of it.  She probably thinks YouTube, and everything is a podcast. (Laughs)

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Question 6: If you guys could go on any late night TV talk show together, which show would it be and why?

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STEVE:  My sensibility would be The Tonight Show starring Jimmy Fallon.

BRADFORD:  I would probably say Jimmy Fallon too, although I love Jimmy Kimmel because he’s on ABC.  Also, our sense of humor is pretty dumb, and Fallon’s sense of humor is pretty dumb.  So, I think our senses of humor match up with him better than anyone else, probably.

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Question 7: On soaps, do you think more comedy should be injected into them?

STEVE:  Let me answer this, because when Bradford came on as Spinelli, he turned it into the comedy relief in a lot of ways.  We didn’t have a lot of comedy on the show.  Back in the day, you had some people like Steven Kay, who played Reginald, and you had people who had some comedic moments, but Bradford really kind of came in and was that.  People knew that once Spinelli was on the screen, something funny could happen.  Just with his encounter with somebody, or how he was going to try to approach me, or hug me, or how he was going to try to figure something out and spaz out, and people love that.  I think there needs to be comedy on a daytime drama.  There is so much heaviness all of the time usually, and that’s why I think Bradford (obviously he is a fantastic actor) is able to stay on for so long because he brought something new, something different to the table, and that’s what made him so valuable.

BRADFORD:  Thank you, Steve!  I think the best way for comedy to happen in daytime is through the organic instincts of each individual actor because the times where soaps try to be funny is where it doesn’t work sometimes.  That’s kind of a rule anywhere!  The best comedy is where it is found rather than planned.  So, when you look at someone like, for instance, Steve, when he moved the fuzzy balls the other day, that is the best kind of humor in our show because that is something that his character would do anyway, it showed a little bit of Steve’s personality, which I love, and it was just a little moment of levity.  You look at actors like Roger Howarth (Franco), Michelle Stafford (Phyllis, Y&R), or Maura West (Ava, GH), everyone that finds moments in their performance to do something that maybe wasn’t planned; it lets the audience breathe a bit.  That’s where I find that the best comedy is in soaps.

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Bonus question 8! Surprise! Which comedians have influenced you … and which actors have influenced you the most?

STEVE:  Oh, I love Jim Gaffigan.  I love Sebastian Maniscalco.  There are a lot of guys out there.  Acting wise, I’m a huge fan of Tom Cruise, and I’ll tell you why.  From what I know the guy’s work ethic is like nobody else’s.  That’s what always inspires me.  I’m like, here’s a guy who has made 500 million dollars and still gives 120% to this day!  So, there’s a ton of actors that I could pick, but Tom Cruise delivers.  Every performance that guy has done has been amazing.

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BRADFORD:  For me, it didn’t occur to me until later, especially thinking about my comedic influences as a kid.  What I love about GH and the way that they film is that I really can use my whole body.  It’s not just a shoulder-up kind of show.  They have four cameras.  They can catch pretty much anything that you’re doing.  So, I realized that when I think about the way I use my body that I was influenced a lot by Don Knotts.  When you see something on his face (and granted his facial expressions were amazing and huge) you also saw it in his whole body.   Not only do I love Don Knotts, but I also love Donald O’Connor from Singin’ in the Rain.  Now as for an actor, I’ve always talked about Gary Oldman, because I love character actors who, if they weren’t playing a character and they were just themselves, you don’t know what that looks like. You only know them as the characters they play, because every character they play is different.  , If you look at Gary Oldman in The Professional, he is playing a villain there, but he’s this Russian guy with slicked back hair, and then, you see him play Commissioner Gordon in Batman with a flawless Chicago accent, and then, you hear him talk and you’re like, “Oh, he’s from England.  He’s a British actor.  I had no idea.”  That’s what I love.  His physicality, his voice, everything is built from the ground up when he plays a character.  A comic that I love to watch is John Mulaney.  Even though he’s like a preppy little guy that says crazy things, it’s very smart, and I just love his style.

In closing, here we are in the middle of this COVID-19 pandemic, what would you say to your fans, some of who, may feel lost, isolated, worried, etc?

BRADFORD:  I would say watch General Hospital!  At a time like this, routine is very important.  One of the great things about General Hospital is that it is part of peoples’ routines.  It’s not just a plug to watch our show, but it’s something that is comforting in that it is there.  Then, outside of that, you know, we try to provide not just entertainment but connection too.  That’s what we are there for.  We’ve been going live a lot on our Facebook page, on our YouTube page, and our reason for that is that we know people are available, and people can actually talk to us in real time, and as I said, we are trying to create moments of connection.

STEVE:  The best compliment that we get is, “We had so much fun.” or “Oh, you guys made my day.”  I try to answer all the You Tube comments we get, and many of them are similar right now like, “Man, I needed to laugh today.  Thank you for putting this up.”  Obviously, we are all dealing with something crazy right now with this pandemic, but just to give someone even 10 minutes on 7 Questions where they can laugh 3 or 4 times and then go back to whatever they were doing, that’s really what matters to us.

So, what do you think of Steve and Bradford’s new You  Tube show ‘7 Questions with Steve and Brad’?  Have you seen their live comedy club appearances, and if so, what did you think of it?  Do you enjoy seeing GH”s Jason and Spinelli in scenes and hijinks together in Port Charles? Comment below.

 

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GH’s Eden McCoy Chats on Tackling the Role of Young Carly, Josslyn’s love life, and Her Co-Stars

The rivalry between Carly (Laura Wright) and Nelle (Chloe Lanier) has deep-rooted history in the past, not just the present, as viewers learn today on a special episode of General Hospital.  In it, we go back to the 90s, before Carly stepped foot in Port Charles.  This gave Eden McCoy, who usually plays Carly’s on-screen daughter, Josslyn Jacks, the chance to play a young Carly as fans of the ABC daytime drama series also see that the episode sheds come clues to a story that will play out in the present in the weeks and months to come.

McCoy got the opportunity to work with a different set of players than her normal scene partners in Port Charles in the episode – Cynthia Watros (Nina), James Patrick Stuart (Valentin) and young Willa Rose (young Nelle), who comprise the Benson ‘family’ in the flashbacks.

However, while Eden got the chance to travel back to the 90s, Josslyn is also in the dark in the present to that kiss shared by her best friends, Trina (Sydney Mikala) and Cameron (William Lipton).   If that lip-lock came to light to Joss, will that finally get her to admit she may feel more than friendship with Cam?

Michael Fairman TV chatted with Eden to discuss: the opportunity to play young Carly, having Laura Wright as her on-screen mom, and going to battle on-screen with her good friend, Chloe Lanier, plus if she would like to share more screen-time with Josslyn’s dad, Ingo Rademacher (Jax), and of course, the burning question, who has Josslyn’s heart? Is it Cameron? Find out when you read on as to what Eden shared below.

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On today’s April 8th episode of GH, we see you portraying a young Carly.  Tell me when and how you found out that you were going to play Carly, and what the experience was like for you taping those scenes?

EDEN:  It was really one of my favorite experiences at GH, hands down.  I think if I had to choose favorite episodes, this would be this one for sure. My other favorites prior to this have been: the fight scene with Nelle, the dance scenes I did, and the fake drunk scenes with William.  Those were all so great.  I found out that I was going to do this episode and play a young Carly from Laura Wright.  I ran into her on set for blocking.  We weren’t even working together that day, and she’s like, “Oh, I’ve been told that you’re going to play a young me in an episode,” and then she literally walked away – because she had to work.  So, I was like, “What?”  It was kind of this thing hanging in the air, and I rushed to tell my mom, because I was so excited.  I didn’t get the script until maybe a month after Laura told me.  I didn’t want to ask more about it before then, because I kind of wanted to be surprised, too. Then, when I got the script and read it, I was completely blown away.  Then, when I got the news that Cynthia Watros was going to play Carly’s mom and that James Patrick Stuart was going to play Carly’s dad, I mean, I just about had a heart attack! Those are two actors that I’ve watched and admired so much and haven’t worked with a lot.  So, it was this perfectly gift-wrapped opportunity to get to know my fellow castmates and dive into a whole other character.  Everyone was so involved in that episode.  Look at the set design, for one thing.  You can totally tell that it transported us into the 90s.  Everyone did an amazing job with that style of architecture ….everybody had been researching it …everybody pretty much except for me as I lived through the 90s!  The wardrobe was one of my favorite things ever, because the 90s, for me, is my favorite era of fashion.  I feel like my own wardrobe is heavily inspired by the 90s.  I have vintage pieces; my favorite jeans are 90s Levis. I watched Friends and obviously was obsessed with it.  The wardrobe team did an amazing job focusing on all of the 90s trends with the cardigans and the clogs and the jelly shoes and all of that.  I have three outfits in the episode, and we literally named them “Monica”, “Rachel”, and “Phoebe” after the women on Friends.  It was so much fun.

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What’s your take on what happened in the episode; as we learn about Carly’s troubled-past with her adoptive parents, and her past with Nelle?

EDEN:  It starts as a look into a young Carly’s everyday life.  She gets home from a job interview.  She is looking for work, and she gets the job, and Virginia and Carly are talking.  However, the conversation turns into how Carly wants to leave home, and have a very different life than Virginia, but she needs money to do it.  So, she leaves her mom, Virginia, to go find Frank, her dad, who, by the way, is a complete turnoff of a dad.  She thought he was going to have some money, and she could be rich, and get it from him, and move to New York, and see the world because that’s her overall goal.  Carly is a very passionate, goal-driven person as we know, so she goes to see Frank.  It will be a heart-wrenching moment for Carly as a character; and you will see how Nelle factors into this.   All of this in the past shows the internal conflict that Carly has towards Nelle as a person and as a character.  It’s not just that Nelle came into her life and hurt her kids and hurt her family, but it’s because it’s that desperate need for validation that Carly had growing up.  I think, she has had this resentment towards Nelle, because of it.

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How old were you supposed to be in the flashbacks as young Carly?

EDEN:  I was playing like 18-19 years old, and Nelle was around 6.  Willa Rose was such an adorable little actress.  She and James were so cute together, and James was phenomenal.  He just went 110% on this, and it was so, so fun to work against that.  Every take was different.  James was walking at this pace, or he was eating in this scene, and he totally took it to the place that I knew that he would take it.  Same with Cynthia!  Cynthia was amazing.   I’ve watched them together since Cynthia first came on the show as Nina, and I’ve watched James forever, so I totally scored.

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Has Laura Wright seen your portrayal of Carly yet?

EDEN:  I’m super excited to see what she has to say about it.  Frank Valentini (executive producer, GH) and I were discussing it day-of taping. We were kind of dissecting Laura’s mannerisms so that I could kind of plug them in to my performance. We used when Laura as Carly tucks her hair behind her ear, and Frank was like, “Oh, yeah!  Do that!”  I’ve grown up with Laura, and watching her, and acting against her, and people clearly compare us all the time and are like, “That’s insane.  Do you try to do that on purpose?” It’s like, “No, I’ve just been with her since I was 12, almost every day.”

You realize when working and talking with Laura that she truly gets and understands her art and acting in this genre.  She’s really one of the best there’s ever been in soaps.  She can dissect a scene and understand it from different points of view, etc.

EDEN:  Oh my God, I know.  She’s phenomenal to watch, and I am not immune to that whatsoever.  It hits me every time I see her act.   She’s just been the best teacher.  The comments I get the most are: how much I resemble her looks wise for one, but also acting wise.  So, I’m so excited to see what people have to say following the airing of this episode.

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What do you think about Josslyn’s combative relationship with Nelle?  I loved on today’s episode that we got to see the scenes where Josslyn clocked Nelle again!

EDEN:  I would love to slap Nelle again!  Chloe is one of my closest friends on that set.  Even though we haven’t worked together as much as we used to, we are still very close, and I learned a lot from her.  Scenes with her are always so juicy.

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Where do you think Josslyn is at this point in her love life?  Is she still really into Dev (Ashton Arbab)? Does she truly loves Cameron, but can’t admit it to herself? 

EDEN:  I think that’s it. With Dev, he was an intriguing character with a very different background than Josslyn.  They say opposites attract, and I think that goes along with this story a little bit.  He’s just something that’s new, and someone who she is intrigued by, and I think that’s realistic.  I know that’s happened to me in my love life before.  I’m not sure where it’s really going to go between Dev and Josslyn.  Then for Cam, I think she doesn’t want to admit the feelings that she has for him to herself because that’s a whole big can of worms. I think she feels that once she admits that it might – not necessarily ruin their friendship – but taint it.  Cam is such a safe place and such a home for Josslyn.  I feel like if she were to admit that to herself, she’d be like, “Oh, no.  I’m going to make this uncomfortable and weird, and I can’t lose Cam as a friend.”  That’s always kind of been where her head is at, but I think as she spends more time with him, her feelings become more and more clear.  You never really know what’s going to happen, and I don’t think she’s set on anything.  Teenagers are just all over the place with feelings, and one day they feel this and one day they don’t.  So, it’s always such fun to play because I know some fans are dying to see Cameron and Josslyn get together that and some people don’t want to see that.  It’s fun to hear everybody out and to hear everyone’s opinions on it.  For me, I just hope it can be something fun to watch.  That’s always the goal.

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So now Trina has shared a kissed Cam, and Josslyn doesn’t know that yet.  What do you think her reaction is going to be when she finds out? 

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EDEN:  It will be interesting to see how the writers do that when she does find out, because Trina has been a great friend to Josslyn, and Josslyn wants to be a great friend back, and of course, Joss is a great friend to Cam.  These are her two best friends.  She doesn’t really want to be anything but supportive.  I feel there is going to be a lot of internal struggle with that because I think that action is probably going to make her realize, and come to terms with some feelings that she has probably been avoiding, for sure.

Do you think that Josslyn has truly moved on with her life following her last boyfriend, Oscar’s heartbreaking death, so that she can welcome and accept new love into her life?

EDEN:  I think she’s moved on, at least I hope so!  That’s a pain that she’ll take with her for the rest of her life, and an experience that she’ll always have in her back pocket. That’s great as an actor … to have had a deep, influential experience because you can bring that into certain scenes and make them stronger.  Right now, I think she’s just trying to be normal and feel normal things, and that’s where I hope that her story will continue to go.  Life goes on, and we have awesome teenage characters that I’m happy to be a part of and working with.

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Whenever the fans have seen William Lipton and you together, they have noticed that you get along so well. What can you say about William?

EDEN:   We do get along so well.  William is the best.  He’s really like a sibling.

Would you like to see more scenes between Jax and Josslyn? Don’t you think he should be more involved with his biological daughter’s life?

EDEN:  Yes!  From day one of meeting Ingo five years ago, he just made it so comfortable for me.  We have had a complete connection.  We share so many similar traits.  For instance, we both love the beach and we have a similar drive.  I will say that our relationship outside of the scenes is what makes those scenes what they are and what makes them fun to watch, and why when you’re watching, you feel like, “How is this not real?”  So, that’s why he is one of my all-time favorite scene partners.

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Your mom was, and is, a big GH fan, right?

EDEN:  Yes, she grew up watching GH in her sorority house, and her two crushes were Sonny (Maurice Benard) and Jax (Ingo Rademacher), and I’m their kid on the show!  I remember when I auditioned for Josslyn.  I was given a fake script with a fake character name on it, so, we didn’t really know what my family tree looked like, or anything.  When my mom saw Maurice and Ingo in person for the first time, and I remember her freaking out.  I can’t even imagine what it was like for her.  My mom was just as excited as me to have this opportunity.

Are you at home quarantining, and taking care of yourself during this COVID-19 pandemic that we all find ourselves facing together? How’s that been going for you?

EDEN:  It’s going good.  I’m not complaining about staying in bed. (Laughs)  No, it’s been fun just trying new things and spending time with the family. You know, I’m usually so busy that it’s nice to have a little down time for a minute, but I naturally like to stay present and connect with people on social media, et

What are the fans saying to you most on social media that they want for Joss? 

EDEN:  I am hearing a lot about Cam.  It’s a big, “Is that going to happen?  Is that not going to happen?  Team Cam/Team Not Cam.”  That’s always fun because I love to have rivalries.  That means that people are invested in the story.  I get a lot of Jax things, like, “Where’s Jax?  We need more Jax and Josslyn,” and I completely agree.  However my dream, (and I think what a lot of people want to see) is Josslyn’s rebellion and gearing away from the goody-two-shoes person she is for a minute.

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That would be in-line and typical for the daughter of Carly, right?

EDEN:  Yeah, that’s what I’m saying.  When I hear about what Carly had done at my age and in the past, I’m like, “I have that DNA.”   Carly had a very painful upbringing with not a lot of parental supervision and support.  She had no father figure growing up, and Josslyn has had two. That really shapes a person and makes them who they are, but I do feel like with all of the pain the Josslyn has gone through; some kind of off-the-rails moment would be fun to play and will be hopefully in her future.

So, what did you think of Eden’s performance of young Carly on today’s episode of GH? Do you want Josslyn to end up romantically with Cameron or someone else? Do you think Josslyn should display a more rebellious side given that she is Carly’s daughter? Share your thoughts via the comment section below.

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GENERAL HOSPITAL: Nina Has a Feeling She Has ‘A Daughter Out There’

The latest promo for this week’s episodes of General Hospital has been released and from the looks of it – and a key episode set to air on Wednesday April 8th – the mystery surrounding if Nina’s (Cynthia Watros) biological daughter is alive, and if so who is it, looks to be kicking into high gear.

There is that necklace that Nina is looking at in the promo, Nelle (Chloe Lanier) who seemingly now is being given an opportunity to work with Nina thus getting closer to her who notices the necklace, and then there is Willow (Katelyn MacMullen), who many have thought could actually be Nina’s daughter given their original tense relationship.

And coming up on Wednesday, look for a special episode where the show looks at Carly’s (Laura Wright) past with her adoptive parents Frank and Virginia Benson before she came to Port Charles in 1996.

Look for Eden McCoy (Josslyn) to play a young Carly, Cynthia Watros to play Virginia, James Patrick Stuart to play Valentin, and Willa Rose to play a young Nelle.  What will we learn from that episode?

Now below watch the latest teaser from GH, and let us know if you think Nina will finally figure out who her real bio-daughter is via the comment section below.

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