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The Brad Bell Interview – The Bold and the Beautiful

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What is the mark of a great executive producer and head writer?  The ability to roll with the punches when the unexpected happens!   And that is exactly what The Bold and the Beautiful’s Brad Bell has been doing after the stunning announcements that series stars, Ronn Moss (Ridge) and Susan Flannery (Stephanie) made decisions to leave the CBS soap after 25 years.

While Moss’ last episode has aired, Flannery will be around till December and as Brad teases below, the series plans an appropriate send-off for Susan and her alter-ego Stephanie.  But what does this mean for the beloved Katherine Kelly Lang (Brooke)?  On-Air On-Soaps sat down with the head honcho of all things bold and beautiful in his office, to get this thoughts on future plans for Brooke, how Ronn Moss’ final scenes played out behind-the-scenes during Brooke and Ridge’s latest wedding, how he is dealing with all the upheaval, and a preview into the fall for the other characters on his canvas, and who will be stepping into the forefront!

And if the two big departures of Moss and Flannery weren’t bad enough, Bell prior to that found out he had to put the brakes on the show’s highly anticipated first same-sex storyline featuring fan favorites, Joanna Johnson (Karen) and Crystal Chappell (Dani).  In our conversation, he informs us what the future holds for this important story that he has clearly wanted to tell.

There are some things that can be said of Brad Bell: He is forthright, smart, and incredibly successful in this genre.  Many feel he has the right formula and prescription to keep making the soap genre vital and viable in the changing television landscape, and you will read what he thinks about that, too. Here’s our chat with Brad!

MICHAEL:

There have been a lot of significant changes that you have to deal with … the fallout from the departure of Ronn Moss, and soon, Susan Flannery.  How has this caused you to shuffle the deck story-wise?  Will the departures ultimately alter the course of what you had planned for the fall for viewers of B&B?

BRAD:

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At first, it’s like being in a car and running 50 miles an hour into a brick wall.  Then, you have that moment of crashing, and then you realize you have to pick up the pieces and turn left or turn right, and continue on.  There is that initial impact of: this is all you have known for 25 years, and then it’s gone, and that causes you to look in new directions.  It’s exciting what I am seeing.  I am grateful to Ronn and Susan for so much talent and their dedication, but I am also excited about these new paths and avenues the show will take.

MICHAEL:

As the show’s head writer and executive producer, when all the shocking changes came about what went down?   Did you have an emergency meeting with your writing team?

BRAD:

It was interesting.  I met with Katherine Kelly Lang, and the writers and producers, and we all just threw out ideas. The path seemed pretty clear very quickly, and it’s always about playing to your strengths and recognizing what your strengths are in terms of cast, and story, and how we are going to use some of these key characters.  It also opened up new avenues for characters that had been back-burnered, or on the sidelines, who I have had great respect for, but we have just not had the chance to give them the amount of airtime that they need and deserve.  So in that respect, it’s very exciting.

MICHAEL:

You are speaking for instance of Jacob Young (Rick)?  You have said in previously published interviews that he would come front and center as he vies to take over Ridge’s seat at Forrester Creations, and as well as his manipulations for the love of Caroline.

BRAD:

Yes.  Jacob, Linsey Godfrey (Caroline), Hunter Tylo (Taylor), and basically the rest of the core cast.  We know that Ronn, Katherine, Susan, and John McCook (Eric) have been front and center for 25 years.  We have great actors and actresses here, such as Alley Mills (Pam)!  We have so many people who will be able to step up, plus the younger group, so I am excited to put words in their mouths!

MICHAEL:

Was there a moment when you were concerned that Katherine Kelly Lang would not re-sign with the series?

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BRAD:

You never know!  Life throws you curveballs.  So before we went on hiatus, I had not heard from a few of the cast members.  I wrote a wedding, and it was written the way it was because I knew anything could happen.  It rarely does, but sometimes it does.  So I was so happy that Katherine and I are continuing on.  She is fantastic!  She is unbelievable, and that we care about her 25 years into the character, and everything she has been through!  How Katherine makes us still love Brooke, and care about her, and makes us want to throw things at her at the same time … is amazing.   I don’t know how Katherine does it.

MICHAEL:

How was the taping of the wedding of Brooke and Ridge?   Ronn and Katherine both told me separately, it was the hardest day they have ever had to get through during the 25 years they have spent together at B&B.   How was it for you?

BRAD:

It was surreal.  It was so unexpected.  But then, we knew it was the last scenes Katherine and Ronn would be doing together … maybe forever, or maybe for quite some time.  But it had a very real feel to it.  When Ridge and Brooke were stating that they love each other, Katherine and Ronn really do love each other.   So, it was incredibly intense, and when the viewers saw it on air, they saw not as much acting, but more reality.

MICHAEL:

Then, they went off on their honeymoon, and Brooke returns sans Ridge.

BRAD:

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Yes, and then Brooke comes back and resumes her life.

MICHAEL:

And goes on to another man?  You have teased in recent interviews that there will be a new man in Brooke’s life.  Do you know who that man is?

BRAD:

Yes, there will be a new man in Brooke’s life, and I do know who that man is.

MICHAEL:

Many of us are hoping … it’s Dr Meade!  We think Jon Hensley (Dr. Meade, Ex-Holden, ATWT) and Katherine would be quite sexy together on-screen!

BRAD:

Dr, Meade is cool!  But you know Brooke.  There won’t just be one man! (Laughs)  As far as Jon Hensley, we are excited to have him back.  He will be in more often and he has a storyline that is developing.  I went to Jon and said, “I don’t have much here, but it’s a role of a doctor.  And, we all know doctors and their history on soap operas.”

MICHAEL:

Yes. They sleep with all their patients! (Laughs)

BRAD:

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That’s right! (Laughs)   But Jon was very trusting in me and now it’s starting to grow.  I can say that with what little Jon has had; he has done so much with it.

MICHAEL:

Do you watch how actors click on-screen to dictate story?  Or, if there is a flick of chemistry … or, if it’s just watching paint dry between them?  I would think it’s key in your position.

BRAD:

That is the really smart way to write a soap.  You can beat your head against a wall writing wonderful scenes, or scenes that could potentially be wonderful.  But, if the chemistry is not there, you are fighting a losing battle.  If there is chemistry there, and you have actors and actresses who know how to define their character, and know how to be provocative, and make something out of nothing, then they are going to make you look good.

MICHAEL:

You’re not too far ahead of yourself in taping vs. storytelling, which is good!  Days of our Lives is three months ahead, and when things aren’t working there, it’s very hard for them to go back.  There is re-editing that would have to be done and scraping of story.  Here at B&B, you have the ability to change something faster, if it’s not resonating with your audience.

BRAD:

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Fortunately, CBS has trusted me, and in order to write a long term story and stick to the long term, it would seem to make sense, but it doesn’t.  The writing denies the writer the writing process.  The writing process isn’t coming up with something and sticking with it. The writing process is about coming up with something and refining and refining it, sometimes up until the scene tapes, or even after it.  That is what screen writers and sitcoms writers do, but in soaps, we don’t have that luxury.  However, it’s essential that the process is allowed to take place, because it usually gets better results.

MICHAEL:

Having steered the ship at B&B for 25 years, how often now do you listen to your viewers and what they want, as opposed to staying on course with what you want to write, or projected story-wise with your team?

BRAD:

I have always enjoyed the viewer’s comments.  They are interesting and great.  My dad, Bill Bell was into Daytime TV Magazine, when they had a poll in it.  He would look at that and have the magazine open on his desk and he would refer to it.  And, why not?  We are foolish not to pay attention to these people who are specialists and analysts.  So I enjoy reading the feedback all the time.  I don’t tell story according to it, but if I say it doesn’t have an impact, that is not true either.  It does.

MICHAEL:

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Fans have been quite critical that the Steffy/Liam/Hope triangle is way overplayed.  Is it overplayed to you?

BRAD:

The fans are saying that this triangle is overplayed right now, and they are absolutely right.  I feel that too when I watch the show right now.  We are just about to take a break from that, as they have been front and center for a long time.  And they have proven themselves and defined themselves as Brooke/Ridge/Taylor were overplayed in the 80’s and the 90’s.  We are going to take a break and see more families in the fall.  I was ready to take a break from them, but then I heard Ronn’s decision to leave and there were so many things up in the air.  So there were a lot of behind-the-scenes shake-ups.  Part of the reason of this extended version of Steffy/Liam/Hope was that I was not sure who I had on the canvas.  I knew I could count on Jacqueline MacInnes Wood (Steffy), Scott Clifton (Liam) and Kim Matula (Hope).  They were delivering.  So now we are gearing up for a new chapter, but all three of them were so fantastic.  We are up in the ratings from last year due to them. They have all grown so much as actors.  I could not be more pleased.  They have all been a hit for us.

MICHAEL:

When Susan Flannery announced her departure to you, how were you with that?  Was it emotional for you?  You two have been so paramount to the success of this show.  

BRAD:

Susan had talked about leaving for quite some time.  She basically came into my office and said, “I’m leaving.”  She did not beat around the bush.  And I said, “I can tell you mean it.”  And we hugged, and she said she would be here with me to bring a conclusion to the story and the character.  We have a great mutual respect for one another.  We have enjoyed locking horns once in awhile.  I can be difficult, and she can be difficult, but that is all part of this, and what we really love and how we learn from each other.  I will miss her.  Susan had made her impact on this show, obviously.  She is our matriarch forever.

MICHAEL:

You also have teased that you have a big story for Susan to set up her exit from the series.  Will that be front and center this fall?

BRAD:

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We have not written Susan’s exit yet, but I can say it will be a great send-off and a tribute to a woman and a character that has been so much a part of our lives.  I would really like to do justice to her, and show the highlights of her career on this show.  I think the audience is going to love it.

MICHAEL:

Many executive producers and head writers in daytime use a major star and character’s exit to propel future story.  Do you see that with Stephanie’s exit, or will you try to have closure for the character and satisfy the audience in a dramatic fashion?

BRAD:

Well, both!  We won’t be using Susan’s send-off as a vehicle.  I think she deserves better than that.  So it’s going to be all about Stephanie, and all about Susan.  Hopefully, it will be one of the great tributes on daytime, ever!

MICHAEL:

In regards to Ridge, would you recast the role?

BRAD:

The role of Ridge Forrester is so integral to The Bold and the Beautiful that I don’t like to think of anyone else playing the role other than Ronn Moss.  But, I have gone on record as saying, I will recast if the time comes, and I feel we need the character.  Then, I will bring back the character.  Ronn will always be my first choice.  I hope he does return to the show.  But if he is not up for that, then I will recast it.

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MICHAEL:

When Ronn made his decision to leave, did you have any idea it would happen so suddenly?

BRAD:

No.  I think everyone was shocked.  So off he went.   Ronn has been such a great gentlemen and such a great leader, and adored around the world.  Ronn is a great man and a great actor.  He just made the character of Ridge Forrester so singular, that he became iconic around the world.

MICHAEL:

Bill and Katie will be big in the fall, I see!  Does he do some more evil stuff?  And, will that mean more Emmy worthy material for Heather Tom (Katie)?

BRAD:

I hope so!  With Heather, she can basically read the phone book and make it good.  But, we have a great women’s issue storyline coming Heather’s way this fall … like a freight train!  We are so excited about this.  It will give Heather a storyline that she has never had before.  Something that affects so many women around the world, and Heather is going to ace it for sure.  It’s exciting to have powerful material heading in the direction of an incredibly powerful actress.  This is a must-see storyline!

MICHAEL:

In another curve ball, here you just started the first same-sex storyline in the history of B&B, and Joanna Johnson notifies you she has to leave right as you were getting into it.  The question on many people’s minds is: what are you going to do with the super popular Crystal Chappell … anything?

BRAD:

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This was another curve-ball! (Laughs)  Of the two, Joanna Johnson has a great history with this show, and so I would like to play them as a couple.  I reached out to Joanna the last few weeks, and she is still unavailable.  Joanna is very busy and a multi-talented woman, and I want her to be on the show.  I want to play Crystal.  I am going to go play Crystal, without Joanna, if Joanna cannot shake loose from her commitment.  But Joanna said she will return.  It’s just that our timing has been off.  I am very committed to telling the story of Caroline and her parents.  I think it may be in a lull right now, and I hope Crystal Chappell will hang in there through this.  We can have some very interesting story, because we just barely scratched the surface of it.  So I am blaming Joanna for this one! (Laughs)  No, but she did warn me, and I have to say this.  She said, “I have this thing coming.”   But you know me, I was like, “Oh, it’s show business.”  And now Joanna has another hit with Emily Owens M.D., in which she is the producer.  She is just that good.

MICHAEL:

Many fans also ask: if now that Ridge is gone, will Thorne get involved in the power struggle at Forrester Creations, which would mean more airtime for Winsor Harmon (Thorne)? 

BRAD:

Thorne will be involved in all this, and Taylor, too.  They have a story that is coming up but is slow in the making.  It’s a little bit difficult, because I love Winsor and he makes a great Thorne, but that generation has fractured a bit.  So we are focusing down a generation to the Thomas and Rick side of the canvas.  Thorne is an island currently, but he will be seen, and Hunter has a great story coming up.

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MICHAEL:

Is that a story specifically Taylor?

BRAD:

It is a story for Hunter and Taylor.  We will see her very much as a professional and a doctor, and as someone who is really in the middle of a great dilemma.  I am excited that Hunter will be front and center again, because she is so gifted.

MICHAEL:

Y&R’s 10,000th episode will air next week.  Recently, we were all at the Paley Center for Media in Beverly Hills event honoring the milestone.  Your sister-in-law, Maria Arena Bell, was on the panel saying her goodbyes and well-wishes for her time at Y&R, meaning you are the only Bell left as a current EP and/or head writer.  There truly feels like a shift and changing face of daytime.  How do you feel about it?

BRAD:

My sister, Lauralee Bell (Christine), is still acting and doing amazingly well on Y&R.  She always amazes me when I watch her.  So we are around and a driving force in this industry.  B&B is the number one soap opera in the world, and we are totally focused on being around for some time to come.  Y&R has such an incredible group of actors and writers.   Maria came in during the strike, and had an incredibly successful run.  Y&R and B&B are strong. We are the only back-to-back soaps on a daytime lineup now. I think it’s going to be a challenging time for talk shows now.  There are just so many of them.

MICHAEL:

Speaking of talk shows, do you think Katie will eventually have long term success, after all the fanfare heralding to daytime?

BRAD:

I would expect Katie would have had good ratings, but I think the production on that show needs to be fine-tuned a bit.  It’s a bit slow to me, but they are just getting started.

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MICHAEL:

It has been a shock to the system of soap fans and the industry to see Peter Reckell (Bo, DAYS), Steve Burton (Jason, GH) and Ronn Moss (Ridge, B&B) all announce their departures, and all within a relatively short time of one another.  It’s like all the veterans are walking out the front door of the genre.  Being in your position, do you think that now the genre will get more on a steady course after this stream of big name exits?

BRAD:

I feel that we will and are.  People exit, and those are three big names you mention, but there are other people who are eager and hungry, and the writing teams are very committed.  We love this art form.  And, as the bigger names come into talk series, so are the bigger salaries that they demand.  Now we are starting to see comparatively that our costs structure is in the ballpark of some of these talk shows.  So we are trying to streamline, and if we can do that successfully, we are in for a very bright future.

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BETTYEJ
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BETTYEJ

There is nothing that I can say, except without Ronn and Susan, there is no show Brad Bell.

ashlee
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ashlee

I think the show will be better. Ronn, with all due respect to his stardom and international popularity, is a terrible actor. Scenes where he is required to emote dramatically always cause me to snicker…which is opppsite to the intention of the scenes. A recast Ridge…with an actor who can ACT…like say Grant Aleksander…that would be awesome!! Grant could bring fire and passion and life and depth to the character that Ronn never did or could. As for momma Steph…she should die of cancer…and then pop in as a ghost every now and again to torment Brooke or.comfort her children.… Read more »

BETTYEJ
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BETTYEJ

And you think that KKL can act? Whenever Ronn is with any of the Logan’s he looks good. If Brad Bell want to be Bold, he would stop picking up od scripts from the past and stop using them over and over again.

ashlee
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ashlee

Don’t get ahead of yourself. LOL. I never said KKL was any great thespian. Her vocal inflections sound the same whether she is saying “Hi”, or “Stephanie, get that telephone cord off my neck!”. I was just mentioning RM and SF because they are leaving. Come to think of it, Grant Aleksander and Beth Chamberlin would be an AWESOMELY recast Ridge and Brooke! Never happen, just wishful thinking.

Egolf
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Egolf

Please Crystal’s character could be used as Momma bear for Rick/Caroline story. Blah Blah Blah, put up or shut Brad as CC. I’ve already stopped watching the Lame show.

Marc
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Marc

Great interview! Sad to see Susan Flannery leave the show. Stephanie will always be one of daytime’s greatest divas.

Stephanie
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Stephanie

The difference between Brooke/Ridge/Taylor in the 90s is that it was stable and it was balanced by other storylines. Ridge and Taylor had a happy and supportive marriage for a number of YEARS. Years, not weeks. And instead we got to watch Thorne destory his realtionship with Macy for the upteenth time for Brooke (I LOVED Thorne and Macy). I actually cared about Ridge and Taylor making it in the 90s. I don’t care about Liam anymore and any girl he ends up with is unlucky enough to have him.

joyce
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joyce

I hope B&B will start showing Danielle more even if Karen is out of town as they said.Have Danielle be there for Caroline she needs to talk to her mother about Thomas issues.

SonnyBgirl
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SonnyBgirl

I’m happy to read viewers will get a break from the triangle, but I want more Steffy minus the triangle. Great interview!

anothercc
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anothercc

Crystal Chappell brought me to B&B. I am thrilled that Mr. Bell plans to continue “Caroline’s Two Mommies” story. BUT, Chappell fans would REALLY LOVE to see Dani on their screen in the meantime. It’s like Dani has crawled under a rock since Karen is “out of town on business”. Caroline really needs her OTHER MOM to be active in her life.

Thanks Michael for a great interview as always !

Brinard
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Brinard

Interesting interview, Michael. It seems like his favorite line is “We have a great storyline for _____ coming up!” But we never actually see these come to fruition in the caliber to which he exclaims. I’ve seen this in previous interviews as well. And in that last question, pretty much what he was saying is that these big name stars, when they want bigger salaries, and seeing how that could put the show’s budget in jeopardy and when the network looks at it compared to a talk show, they would slash the soap over it all because the show was… Read more »

dionne
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dionne

Why don’t they expand B&B to an hour so that more characters can have some attention?

VERA CAMPBELL
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VERA CAMPBELL

PLEASE MAKE IT A HOUR BILL BELL I THINK YOU DOING A GOOD JOB ON THE SHOW IF PEOPLE DONT LIKE THE SHOW TELL THEM TO TURN THE CHANNEL I BEEN WATCHING SHOW EVERY SINCE I WAS A LITTLE GIRL SO KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.

nadia
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nadia

End this triangle now and don’t let steffy win that girl needs to be raked over the coals as does Bill why have you let them get away with so much for so long why can’t you give them both what they deserve and that’s to lose everything and be humiliated in the eyes of all. I speak for 99% of your viewers who say enough is enough why haven’t you ever let a couple be happy and last. wow not everything has to be so hard and what you’ve done to Liam and Hope is the cruelest of all… Read more »

citygirl
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citygirl

Nadia… I could not agree with you more… I am sure the writers/ Bell are fully aware of it… I believe Liam and Hope deserve to know all the ill Steffy , Bill and Rick has done to complicate their relationship…. so they can be happy together .

sherry
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sherry

Sorry but you do not speak for 99% of the viewers. I think there are WAY more Steffy fans out here than you realize.

nadia
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nadia

I wasn’t referring to how many Steffy fans there are I was stating that this triangle has gone on long enough and that all the shenanigans that Bill and Steffy have pulled should be exposed and some punishment dealt

nadia
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nadia

Thanks Citygirl

Veronica
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Veronica

Why put everything on Steffy, If you are going to be mad at someone, Then be mad at LIAM, He Started this by KISSING Steffy first, Hope got mad, and left. So that’s on her. It wouldn’t been a Triangle, If Hope would of made up her mind, one day she love him, The next day she don’t. So it’s not Steffy, IT’S HOPELESS…And Bill & Brooke made Love and a baby, Now get mad at Brooke. Bill & Brooke have pulled should be exposed and some punishment dealt. Not Steffy, But since Brooke help write the story line, Taylor… Read more »

Kristen
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Kristen

B & B is my addiction Brad Bell : )

Imane assi
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Imane assi

I can’t wait to see more of Taylor.I hope there will be a new man for Steffy,Sick and tired of seeing her wasted on boring Lope,.She deserves better.

cr
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cr

I think she belongs with somebody just has sneaky and slutty has she is, and i think thomas belongs with hope, not horn dog liam, he is just as bad as the women.

Imane Assi
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Imane Assi

Steffy is not slutty or sneaky.She’s very upfront and hinebst about wahts he wants.Both Lima and Hope know exactly what they’re dealing with when it comes to Steffy.Steffy went after Oliver,Bill and Liam for a purpose:Revenge on the Logans.In the process she developed real feeling for Bill and Liam,Hope is a hypocrite who pretends to be someone she’s not, who makes a show of her sex life.Steffy is smart,sexy,strong…she will be herself again once they stop using her to prop boring Lope.She should be with an equaly smart,strong and sexy MAN.She”s too much of a woman for Liam.Liam is a… Read more »

Smartperson
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Smartperson

Steffy is a snake. Anyone who sets out to only hurt others because your daddy left your mommy when you were a grown up has some serious mental issues. She needs therapy for her “abandonment” issues. Hope is beautiful and much more “reel” than slutbag Steffy will ever be. Just because Steffy says she is going after unavailable men while she is doing it does not make her behavior acceptable. And she is definitely sneaky. If she is so honest and forthright, why did she lie to her whole family about going to Italy in the first place? If there… Read more »

Veronica
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Veronica

Thomas is Steffy Brother,

Mitchell
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Mitchell

I wish there was a little more seperation on the age groups. Let Liam/Hope/Steffy/Thomas/Caroline etc, hang out in the kiddie pool, with their own story lines. And let the adults Bill/Katie/Brooke/Taylor etc. have their own story lines.

Tina
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Tina

Liam/Steffy and Hope are backburner and I LOVE IT

Tina
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Tina

Brooke’s major SL is coming up.Can’t wait

Deb
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Deb

The only reason B&B is gaining viewership this past year is because all the other soaps died and it has Y&R in front of it! It is NOT due to the Liam/Hope/Steffy triangle! I agree with comment above…in the 80s and 90s, the Brooke/Ridge/Taylor triange was a Hell of a lot more interesting, and broken up by other cast memebrs storylines. This BS we have now is just that. No woman watching today would have ANYTHING to do with Liam. And i saw somewhere else BB thinks Liam is the new “Front and center man in daytime…” HA! How stupid… Read more »

Damien
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Damien

I agree with you 100% Deb

kay/kay
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kay/kay

Deb have not watched in 6 months my sister just called she still watches she tells me they have taken Taylor’s home away Bill & katie bought it that just confirms what I know about BB Hunter Tylo will still be used as a prop makes me sick Don Diamont looks like a pimp no professional business man dresses like that. No wonder Susan Flannery wanted to retire.

Larkin
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Larkin

AMEN!!!!

Danielle
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Danielle

It will be sad to SF go –but as for RM – glad he is gone and hopes he never comes back. Bell previously said he felt “obligated” to keep Bridge together and happy and that really came through on the show. You always knew that Bridge would survive no matter what — there was no reason to watch the story – you already knew how it would end. I think having to have Bridge happy together was bad for the show (unless you were a bridge fan) – for everyone else — it sucked. It seemed like the whole… Read more »

maryanne
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maryanne

I, for one, loved Bridge. Ridge and Brooke really meshed well together and as time went on, it was nice to see this couple grow into a mature married couple who still wanted each other both inside and outside the bedroom.

I truly hope that RM changes his mind and decides to re-join the cast and bring Ridge back. I will miss him.

Prunhild
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Prunhild

100% agree! Bridge winning all over was the show killer number one! Nr two was the LOganwoman win ever again and again…

Smartperson
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Smartperson

B&B is the number one soap in the world!! Obviously, they are doing something right. Brooke and Ridge were a very popular couple, much more so than Tridge could ever be. They were meant to be from the very beginning of the show. Bridge wasn’t a show killer. Bell was catering to what worked world-wide, as he should.

kay/kay
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kay/kay

He has been promising Hunter Tylo a story forever and Winsor Harmon Thorne is the true heir. They should be front and center another man for the mattress Brooke I am so thrilled.

Damien
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Damien

I agree Kay…but I think thorne’s character needs to be pepped up or something…he just don’t do anything for me especially with Taylor…they’ve always been a mismatch to me…she should be with somebody like Bill…Thorne would be a better fit for Katie or Donna…she’s a core character and needs to be with somebody more powerful…they should’ve kept her with Nick or even Whip.

kay/kay
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kay/kay

I know the fact she ran over Darla did not help! Also the baby Jack had to turn out to be Brooke’s another stupid plot and by the way where is RJ not even at the 27th wedding of Brooke & Ridge. Personally I was hoping KKL would leave when Ronn Moss did. Brad Bell tell’s lousy stories when Dad was alive he kept him in check people just disappear with no explanation drives me crazy.

Tina
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Tina

I want not a SL for Taylor.She is boring.More Brooke please and kill Taylor off

Anne
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Anne

GA

citygirl
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citygirl

Tina…. I agree with you comment… except for kill Taylor off…. on Friday’s B&B Taylor conveniently went over to Liam’s office to do what really psyco bable Liam into going back to her daughter (Steffy)…. well is that the new improve professional therapist Bell is talking about ….. Liam could have gone to see a talk show host and get better advise…. Taylor! what you should have told Liam is take some time out to heal …. jump into another relationship… well if it is your daughter then that’s fine ….. but forbit if it is anyone else …. let… Read more »

Min Mucy
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Min Mucy

No way, kill off the whore Brooke..Brooke is a total waste and can’t act her way out of a paper bag, she and Ronn should have left at the same time. What a waste of time with those two bores…. At lest Taylor could act and she was beautiful to look at,. Brooke was nothing to look at. Barf.

Sven
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Sven

ITA TINA.Can’t stand Taylor..I’M sick of her.Brooke is back with a major SL.I love it..No more Steffy and Taylor please.

nadia
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nadia

I,m with you I can’t stand the sight of Taylor she’s just a wasted part of the show.What is she good at besides moping over Ridge.

gloria
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gloria

Oh I LOVE Brooke. I cannot believe anyone would want her “killed off” Forget about it. She is gorgeous & I think very sweet & I just have always loved her. Not to mention she is the mother of so many important characters! Could she get back w/Eric when Stephanie leaves? Would we want her to? I don’t know but I hope something great comes her way. Nothing against Taylor but they each need a good storyline that does NOT involve the same DAMN MAN!

Tina
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Tina

Taylor is the Logan and Forrester mattress lol

kay/kay
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kay/kay

Trust me I did not like the storyline of Taylor involved with Rick hated it. But at least the actor was kyle Lowder in the part sorry I know this is the original Rick back in the part but he is just creepy. and the love fest at the 27th wedding for Brooke and Ridge I tuned in it made me throw up. A tribute to Brooke who took Stephanie’s husband had a baby by her daughters husband carried on at a party with her other daughter’s boyfriend a bit much. But during all this she was thinking of her… Read more »

kay/kay
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kay/kay

Oh I forgot they had Taylor sleep with Stephen Logan when she had became a drunk after drinking too much wine for 2 days.

nadia
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nadia

Not just Stephen Logan there are many more to add to the list. This entire stoyline is ridiculous it’s time to move onto more interesting sl’s like Bill getting his just deserts and more Deacon.Enough with the kindergarden stuff we need more drama and fashion on the show.

Derrick
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Derrick

Hunter & Windsor needs a storyline BADDDDDDDD!!!!!

cr
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cr

Yep they do

Damien
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Damien

I’m so glad we will be seeing more of Taylor…it’s about time for her to be front and center again where she belongs…not interested in brooke at all…she is tired and played out…I wish they would kill her off for a change…I’m sad to see Stephanie go though…I will definitely miss her…it should be Eric or Brooke going instead never cared for there characters.

yvonne
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yvonne

I’m so happy to hear Taylor/Hunter will be front and center again. But Bell has promised fans that Taylor will have a sl several times before and it never happened so I will be in a wait and see mode. Will not tune back in until I hear or read that Hunter Tylo is front and center. If that happens thank you, thank you Bradley Bell!!

TF101
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TF101

Promises, promises! Promises of storylines for Taylor, Thorne, Stephanie…never seem to pan out. Will this time be any different? Time will tell and do so quickly. Recently Hunter Tylo did scenes with Scott Clifton that were some of the best material I have seen on this show all year ! I think TPTB need to find an effective way to use the younger set WITH the veterans in order to support the writing, foster better acting, help them to grow in their craft AND entertain all fan bases. This show can’t afford to disregard any group of fans, whether it… Read more »

kim
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kim

the reason that the hope liam and steffy triangle is overplayed is because liam is going back and forth every day or other day , in the beginning when hope was with liam it was a great love story then steffy got added and a lot of people think the only reason steffy wants liam is to win over a logan , steffy was hotter when she was with bill when she got with liam it just made her look sad and weak , and now we seem to see the same thing day after day and we all still… Read more »

koji bobis
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koji bobis

well good thing bell realize that hoe liam and ssteffy love triangle are overplayed yes but we want the end with hope and liam thats all because we inspired their love story to us. hope character are awesome as a women and dignity but liam character last 2 months was messed up because they want to try pleased steffy character which is not good enough to watch. were hoping hope and liam have happy ending till the end.

Prunhild
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Prunhild

NOT O N E word about STILL….. WHY this interviewmakers can not ask the RIGHT questions???? ask about the fans waiting for STEFFY & BILL together again! STILL win POLLs, They are HOT & could rock the show with interesting storylines about power, not only sex….

cr
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cr

Steffy and bill are just alike, might be good one another or cut each other throats.

Larkin
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Larkin

It is like the mags have a B&B manual Bell gives out before interviews so they know what to ask and what to keep out…One more time robbed with STILL after all the other times with , Tridge Thamber 2004/ Thip/ Naggie all these couples never had a chance.. This show is just beyond ridiculous about the layout!! Like we cannot fell in love with different characters and couples cuz Bell will not approve as only the Logans can get the go ahead.. “eyeroll”

Parker
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Parker

I liked the Liam, Steffy, Hope storyline up to a point. (It reminded me of the days of Brooke/Taylor/Ridge storyline.) But it did get to be too much. I like the return of Deacon. I had heard that RM was leaving but didn’t know till now that SF was leaving too. Very sorry to see her go. What is going to happen to Eric’s S/L? I am so glad though that B&B is on along with Y&R…The talk shows are overkill. Although I like the Talk and Ellen and Dr. Phil. They are the only ones I watch these days… Read more »

sherry
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sherry

I hope you mean what you say Mr.Bell and that Taylor/Hunter really does have a storyline coming up. Her fans have missed her terribly. Seeing her only here and there, is not enough for us.
The problem with Hope/Liam/Steffy is that Liam is too indecisive and cannot be taken seriously. Steffy and Hope both need to move on from this loser. And sorry, but Taylor/Ridge/Brooke was millions times better than Steffy/Liam/Hope.

Jd
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Jd

I agree with you Sherry I would say that Nadia don’t speak for 99% of the viewers because I in no way want Liam with Hope, The chemistry between Steffy & Liam is so much more exciting to watch. Liam & Hope bore me to death watching them.

nadia
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nadia

So you want me to believe that 99% of the viewers are happy about this infernal triangle every comment on all the boards are saying that they want it to end with the exception of Sherry and yourself. As far as the chemistry you say between Steffy and Liam well it comes across as a mother and child Steffy is way to old for Liam and No I don’t want him with Hope either he needs to grow up before he is with anyone.Can you honestly say that you’d be happy for it to continue for the next 25years with… Read more »

cr
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cr

Steffy belongs with nobody, liam needs to grow up, and hope needs to mature more as well and hook up with thomas.

Ms. Pennsylvania 2004 Maria Frisby
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Ms. Pennsylvania 2004 Maria Frisby

I met Jeanne Cooper(Mrs. Chancellor) in Arizona. I called her by her screen name. Who do you think will end up with Liam?

LJ
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LJ

The show is boring and ridiculous. They should call it The Bold and the Incestual. The old days were much better. Maybe JFP can fix this one too.

cr
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cr

You are so right lj. Young players like liam, hope, and steffy are not only characters in the show.

Therese
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Therese

“What is the mark of a great executive producer and head writer?” How about the ability to juggle multiple storylines with balance and write characters and stories that viewers want to watch? Whether you liked Brooke or Taylor, both Bridge and Tridge had rooting value among their respective fan bases. Steffy, Liam, and Hope could become sister wives and WE WOULDN’T CARE! That’s the reason why B&B won’t get another contract renewal.

cr
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cr

You talk with a lot sense and you right on the spot, when it comes to any soap opera.

cr
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cr

Brad bell is good story teller but is not so good when it comes to telling stories for more than 4 characters at a time.

kay/kay
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kay/kay

Well i had 30 minutes to kill watched it today and will not do that again ever I felt like i had taken a razor blade to my wrist and I was bleeding out. And know that is not funny it is sad.

cr
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cr

I feel your pain and im watch days most of time.

Min Mucy
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Min Mucy

Please Bell kill off the town Slut Brooke, I c an’t stand the sight of that ugly witch. What is she good for..Falling on her back with her legs up in the air waiting for her next bang. She will sleep with anyone who is married. BrookeHO is nothing more then the Forrester Mattress.

gloria
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gloria

Your comments are unnecessarily ugly. Keep it classy, it is just a tv show.

Min Mucy
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Min Mucy

A ugly comment for a ugly Whore Brooke.

cr
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cr

Brooke is not ugly and lets not forget it a character your talkin about, you no what how long have you watch bold and beautiful anyway, have watch it for past 8 years and longer that on and off, taylor is been with all men brooke been with.

cr
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cr

I agree with gloria, if how see brooke than who must hate steffy, because she is constanly doing that.

Min Mucy
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Min Mucy

I don’t see Steffy ever do that. Sex with only two men one she married and the other she was engaged too. Haven’t seen Steffy pop out any illegets to her daughter’s husband the way BrookeHO has. Steffy needs a thousand years to catch up to BrookeHO.

cr
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cr

News flash min mucy she slepted with a married man bill spencer jr. , ring a bell and going after liam while he was married.

Min Mucy
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Min Mucy

News Flash cr ..Steffy never slept with Bill Spenser, ring a bell And Steffy never slept with Liam TILL YESTERDAY after Hope the Dope left him…second news flash, ring a bell./.. DUH!!! Taylor slept with the men she married unlike the whore Brooke who sleeps with them while the men are married to someone else. Taylor never has a illeget to her daughter’s husband either. Too bad you don’t know the difference.

Smartperson
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Smartperson

Newss flash for you Min – Taylor did all sorts of sleeping with Rick, and never married him!! Also, she has been with Thorne, but never married him. Oh, and Stephen Logan, and never married him. Shall I go on?

lindee
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lindee

Just hurry and put the talented Crystal Chappell back on my screen…..

gail
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gail

I am so disappointed in what Brad Bell did with such a wonderful love story of Liam and Hope. You were giving young woman a chance to know that they didn’t have to have pre-maritial sex to keep the man you love and then you changed everything. Steffy with Liam what a joke. You have put in the mind of young girls if you act like Hope you will lose your love if you act like Steffy he will fall in love with you, this is truly sad and for this reason I have stopped watching your show. Steffy and… Read more »

vfocused
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vfocused

RON MOSS TWEETED THAT ONE REASON HE HAS NOT RETURNED TO END STEPHANIES STORY IS THAT HE WAS NOT ASKED! This is so disappointing to the fans that have watched for 25 years. If all is needed is for someone to ask him then, I WILL ASK HIM! GET RON MOSS BACK ON THE SHOW AT LEAST FOR STEPHANIE’S LAST DAY PLEASE. You can surprise us if you want, JUST GET RON BACK FOR THE CONCLUSION TO MAKE EVERYTHING RIGHT WITH ALL CHARACTERS AND THE SHOW. Afterwards if Ron wants to continue on with other opportunities then fine, he will… Read more »

Dee Bickford
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Dee Bickford

I want Steffy with Liam only because it is what she wants….. But if another, bit more mature man came along and Steffy had a change of heart… Will not hurt my feelings! I feel Hope just not adult enough for serious relationships. She is silly, giggly, like a teeny bopper. They should re-develop her and Oliver! She can grow and mature with him. And he loved her so much, she just tossed him away! They could work around that Brooke/Oliver joke that happened. Leave Steffy with Liam, send Hope off to college to grow up! Give Taylor the new… Read more »

Michele
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Michele

Does he realize that a lot of fans are so disappointed in the Pro Logan Writing as of late, especially this week, after Steffy loosing her child! And is he prepared for the viewership to start to decline? I am just fed up with the fact that in the same week we lost Steffy and Liam’s child we are about to temporarily loose Jacqueline and Hunter, and my reason’s to watch BB are now gone. I hope he realizes just how much those two actresses have given of themselves. Especially Hunter Tylo who in the wake of her own real… Read more »

Larkin
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Larkin

Bell is completely delusional “the writers are completely committed” to who??? Since when… Committed to drag this show in the ground and make all B&B fans mad as hell.. Nobody with a minimum sense of objectivity and decency will agree to how this man is running things.

Lisa Garcia
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Lisa Garcia

Are you gonna give Liam and Steffy another chance to have a baby but this time be born and grow..you should let hope be with another man dont let the triangle come back we dont need that..Eric should stay with Taylor..but if Taylor goes to Thorn that would be good also..i think the Logan i mean (Brooke,Katie and Donna)should all suffer…Thomas needs a Latina Girl who is not gonna break his Heart..

BETTYEJ
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BETTYEJ

This is old crap. Brad Bell still can not write worth a damn and KKL and KM can’t act.. you’re going to get rid of JMW and HT for the show to become Brookie Nookie broke back play pen open only to brothee in-laws and ex-husband/father-in-law and daughters husbands and boyfriends.

Interviews

B&B’s Scott Clifton and Don Diamont Talk on the Plight of Liam & Bill and Their Cover-Up of Vinny’s Death

If you are watching current episodes of The Bold and the Beautiful then you know that Scott Clifton (Liam) and his on-screen father, Don Diamont (Bill Spencer) have been spending plenty of time together in scenes in very dramatic and intense fashion.

In story, Liam is guilt-ridden over running down Vinny Carter (Joe LoCicero) by accident when he was driving Bill’s car.  Since the moment that Vinny was killed, Bill leapt into action, destroying any evidence tying the two to the scene of the crime and continually demanding that Liam let this go and move on with his life, or the implications for the both of them could certainly be a long jail sentence, or worse.

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Now as Liam is finally making headway in a reconciliation with Hope (remember his last secret – sleeping with Steffy – was quite the doozy), this new secret of what he has done, and hiding, could up the stakes even more and take him away from his family for good … or would Hope (Annika Noelle) after finding out what Liam did be the nail in his coffin that ends their relationship once and for all and kicks him to the curb?

Courtesy/CBS

Both, Scott Clifton and Don Diamont chatted virtually with Michael Fairman exclusively for You Tube’s Michael Fairman Channel to offer up for viewers and fans of The Bold and the Beautiful: an inside look at what goes on when they tape their scenes, how they see their characters motivations, and they serve up a preview of what may lie ahead in this tangled web that Bill and Liam have unfortunately weaved.

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Check out the humorous, candid, and enlightening conversation with two of the leads and mainstays of this CBS Daytime drama series below.

Then let us know; how do you think Liam and Bill can get out of the mess they find themselves in? Will Liam crumble and spill the beans? Will everyone in town get on to them and figure out the secret they have been keeping? Share your thoughts and theories via the comment section after taking a look at the virtual conversation.

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Days Of Our Lives

Kevin Spirtas Talks ‘After Forever’s’ Digital Special ‘Riley’s Unforgettable School Project’, The Loss of Michael Slade, and a Chance to Reprise DAYS Craig Wesley

The coronavirus pandemic has put to the test many content creators on just how they would keep their projects moving forward in ways they never dreamed of. However, out of that situation has come some of the most compelling, unique series, specials, and features currently streaming for viewers. One of which is Riley’s Unforgettable School Project, brought to you by the team from the six-time Daytime Emmy Award-winning series, After Forever.

Former Days of our Lives star, Kevin Spirtas (Ex-Craig Wesley) has starred in and created the first two seasons of what has become the most honored Emmy-awarded LGBTQ-themed drama series on any platform.  Along with his ‘After Forever’ writing/producing partner, the late Michael Slade (DAYS, OLTL, Passions, Another World), the two also conceptualized and delivered this latest documentary-style offering now on Amazon Prime Video.

What makes Riley’s Unforgettable School Project so noteworthy is not just how they were able to execute the series based on fictional 11-year-old Riley’s virtual school project and utilize its cast, which includes: Spirtas, Cady Huffman, Jamison Stern, Lenny Wolpe, Erin Cherry, Anita Gillette, Christopher J. Hanke, and Finn Douglas, but that it was made while Slade was succumbing to his battle with cancer, and that this special marks the final script from this talented writer.

 

Michael Fairman TV spoke with Spirtas about making the special during Covid-19, how the death of Michael Slade has made a lasting impact on his life, what After Forever has personally meant to him, and how an official third season is still in the works, and … if he would consider a return to Salem and Days of our Lives, should they come a-calling.  Here’s what Kevin had to say about it all.

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I think the entire story of this digital special has become even more meaningful with Michael Slade’s passing. What was the genesis of the concept? You wanted to continue the telling of the story of After Forever … but we are all in the middle of a pandemic?

KEVIN:  Yes and… when we filmed season 2, we had the scripts for season 3 already completed. It was our hope and desire to film them at the same time, back-to-back, so that we would have had all of our cast and crew together, and we could have gotten through it because we’ve always imagined this story being told in a trilogy so to speak – a beginning, middle, and end to Brian (Spirtas) and Jason, (Mitchell Anderson) and Brian’s healing or his steps towards healing through grief.  Schedules turned out that they couldn’t really work out for us to hold all the people and hold all of the sets for that amount of time.  So, we thought, “We’ve got the scripts for season 3 ready.  We’ll come back to it in the following year,” and that was always the intention, and then the pandemic hit.  So, it was shut down immediately that we weren’t going to do anything, but we wanted to stay current, and instead of going back in and telling the third installment of After Forever as a Covid-19 story as well, Michael and I sat down and looked at a way of staying relevant and current with a story within COVID, and there was born the idea to do this documentary style story/special about the characters of After Forever told through the lens of the character of Riley, the 11-year-old boy, who is now being homeschooled during the pandemic. He gets an assignment to do a project about the most unforgettable person he has ever met, and he, of course, chooses his best friend, the late Jason Adams, and he enlists all of Jason’s friends and family to join in.  Michael actually said, “What if we tell a story about Riley being homeschooled?” And, not only is Riley a technical genius at 11-years-old in the story, but Finn Douglas, who plays Riley, is a technical genius.

And didn’t Finn perform and write the song “Forever There” contained within the special?

KEVIN. Yes. He is this incredible musician.  Michael thought, “What would it be like if we asked to have the character of Finn sing a song for Jason?”  I said, “Well, what kind of song would we have him sing?”  Finn could play anything, I’m sure, because he’s self-taught, he plays by ear – guitar, piano, and drums.  Michael said, “What if we ask him to see if he could write a song?” and when we heard this song, we all called each other and we all got on Zoom and went, “Can you believe this song?  Can you believe this came out of this 11-year-old?”  It’s pretty incredible.  Michael did a gorgeous job of weaving the stories in and out and how they just sort of dove-tailed into each other, and then it was framed by Riley opening the project and ending the project.  During the Zoom reading we wanted to hear the song out loud.  We said to Finn, “Would you want to sing the song?”  We all just watched everybody on that Zoom call just fall apart.  It was just so beautiful. He’s an amazing talent.

Where is your character within this?

KEVIN:  I still stand in the center of the story of Jason because my character, Brian, was married to Jason, and it sort of connects us all, and through Riley’s understanding of how we all connect to Jason, is how we are all sort of spread out throughout the story.  Michael jokingly said, “You know, you’re not going to be the star of this special,” and I said, “I don’t think it’s about being the star.  It’s really about the storytelling.”  The beauty of Riley’s Unforgettable School Project is that we get to see moments of each person’s relationship with Jason, which Riley sets out to say, “Answer these three questions: What did you like most about Jason?  What did you like least about Jason? And what’s your favorite memory?”  Those three things, cut back and forth is where we all kind of fit in.  Nobody has more of a story than the next person, and it’s all telling honest portrayals of how they’re dealing with their loss of their good friend, or their child, or partner.

It’s a very inventive idea during Covid-19 to continue it in a way where you weren’t having to go shoot a full season of episodes.

KEVIN:  Well, we couldn’t. I have to say, Allison Vanore, who not only produced this special, but she also stepped up saying, “I’d love to direct this,” and I said, “Yes, please!”  She knows the characters.  She understands the story because she’s been a part of it for the last two seasons.  Allison also has this extraordinary amount of knowledge and expertise with the camera and what was needed for a remote shoot, and to also be able to organize filming 13 people in 2 different countries and 5 different cities… that’s just the technical side of it, but having that in our back pocket, knowing that it was a remote shoot, we had to send the camera, the computer, the ring light, and the microphone to each person’s house.  We had to location scout over Zoom.  We had to do wardrobe over Zoom.  It was all this big puzzle putting it together, and once you look at that board of storytelling and how we were going to do it, it kind of fell into place.  I feel blessed that a) we still had Michael with us, at that point, and b) Allison had the know-how to do this.  We all feel that at least this pandemic didn’t keep us from doing what we love.

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In terms of the contribution of Michael Slade in this special, was it the construction of the story, and how was he able to work and write this during his illness?

KEVIN:  Michael’s contribution to the special was no less than the contribution to season 1 and season 2, and the future of season 3, because the scripts are written.  We did everything on Zoom, and we worked around his schedule of treatment.  We scheduled 2 people per day, and we spread them out over two weeks.  He was very present, and when there would be a day where he would say, “I’m going to be an hour late, let’s just push that call time,” I would ask, “Is this too much right now?  We can shelve it; we can stop it.” He’d then say, “Absolutely not, otherwise cancer will win.”  He was determined to stay focused and to stay active because it took his mind off of what was happening to him.

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It would be lovely moment if you both were to win a Daytime Emmy for this project. 

KEVIN:  It’s our last collaboration together as a team, as I said, season 3 has been scripted, and it is on the calendar to get made.  We are just waiting for the COVID restrictions to lift a little bit and everyone to get vaccinated.  Michael was really hit hard with cancer – to stay healthy was so challenging for him.  Sadly, he didn’t make it to see the final edit of the special, and he died four days before we launched, but he had seen the cuts before that and was very approving of it, and had made some decisions, and offered some suggestions, and if God gives him an Emmy for this, it’s not because he died.  It’s because it’s great work.  It just happens to be that the work that was involved in this particular special was very tricky.  It brought up everything, like life itself to have to deal with.  Here we are dealing with the loss of a colleague, the loss of a friend, someone’s brother, someone’s son, this is life imitating art, imitating art imitating life. I can’t tell you the darkness that I went through just experiencing the need to stay focused on getting everything edited, and everything ready, and everything aligned for a release of this project that we had put into motion.  On top of it, our editor lost his mother just before Michael passed, and Allison’s mom was sick at the time, as well.  It took a lot of heavy deep breaths with Michael’s death, and the pandemic, and the loss has, for me, on a personal level, sent me back to really questioning my spiritual muscle and to help remind me that we have to come out of this better than we went into this.  I had many dark nights of the soul this last year, and December was probably the darkest.  I feel like I’m just kind of coming out of it now with the spring revealing itself.

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It must have been extraordinarily difficult for you to also go to New York during a pandemic and also knowing Michael did not have much time left.

KEVIN:  I will say this: I am grateful that I was able to stay in touch with my heart and my instinct and go out to New York to let that be my remote location.  Yes, maybe there was some risk involved.  I wore my mask; I was Covid-19 negative, and I was determined to be fine.  Once I got to New York, I would visit him very protectively with our masks and our gloves, and I’d sit across the room, and then I’d go back to the house I was at.  It was a gift that I was able to see him at that time.  We had some good talks then about how he was feeling, and I think he was still being optimistic, and then once we got the project in the can there was maybe this psychic letting go. That’s when everything really started to reveal itself as this could be the end.  I did go back to see him when he was in hospice.  I think I was there the last two days that he really was able to really stay coherent.  He would close his eyes and be at peace and quiet for a minute, and he would finish a conversation and sort of close his eyes, not to sleep and not to go away, but I remember watching him going, “Look how peaceful he is,” and then he’d open his eyes and he’d remember that he is in this body that has been given a time limit of life, and he’s on his way out.  I’d watch the fear go back in his eyes.  At one point, he did say, “I’m so scared,” and I just held his hand, and I said, “I’m scared too.  Let’s be scared through this together.”  I don’t know how to navigate grief like that.  We are all going to be in a position at some point where we are going to be on the other side of the hand holding.  The wonderful thing is that we were able to have honest communication about our feelings.  I thanked him for everything that he has done for me and how he believed in my talent and creativity and our partnership.  I will always take that with me.  I waved my finger at him, and I said, “Listen.  Now, we wrote a series about a man talking to his deceased husband.  You’d better talk to me!”  So, we laughed about that.

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You’ve done a lot of things in your career from Broadway to television, and of course, daytime fans know you best as Dr. Craig Wesley on DAYS.  How does the entire After Forever project stack up to you within all that you have done?

KEVIN:  Former DAYS casting director Fran Bascom, sought me out and offered me this 2-day role on Days of Our Lives, and those 2 days turned into 8 years, and unbeknownst to me at the time, the final 3 months of that contract of those 8 years, Michael Slade was brought in to write.  We didn’t cross paths at that point, but years later, when we did cross paths in New York, and then After Forever was born, that was that universal crossing point.  I am most proud of the fact that we were able create something fresh, and real, and personal to ourselves that we didn’t have to cater to any “powers that be” that had their vision and their tinkering, that they thought that it could be better in this way or that way.  Then for After Forever to gain such recognition, within the film festivals, and the Emmys, and then, just after Michael died, we won the GLAAD award for Special Recognition this year.  We don’t even fit into one of their categories!  They found a way to acknowledge this project.  If another Emmy happens again, that might be another one to put up on the shelf for After Forever that would be beautiful, and I couldn’t have done it without Michael.

For the Daytime Emmys this year, what category have you entered Riley’s Unforgettable School Project?

KEVIN:  We are not a series this year, we are a daytime fiction special, and the “Daytime Fiction Special” category is a special class.  It’s anything that’s digital in the construct of less than 40 minutes.  NATAS (National Academy of Television Arts and Sciences) is being bombarded with so much content, they’re trying to find ways to put categories together.

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So, now, when we last saw Days of Lives’ Dr. Craig Wesley, where was he? (Laughs)

KEVIN: (Laughs) He was in a flash from the past or something in the DOOL app’s Last Blast Reunion series. I had a fun time working with Patrika Darbo (Nancy) and Nadia Bjorlin (Chloe), once again.

So, if they were to want Craig to come back to DAYS, would you be all for it?

KEVIN:  Hell yes!

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Now, what story would you want to be told involving Craig? 

KEVIN:  When Craig was first on the canvas in Salem, there was a lot of mustache twirling and a lot of hand wringing.  He was always plotting; most of the time with Nancy.  It was kind of this high drama, evil villain storyline being told, but when the writers created an opportunity for us to be on after those first three months by bringing on Chloe without a father, there was something real about it.  It may have been told under the construct of soap opera storytelling, but there was a reality-based story about, “You have a daughter, and we are just now finding out about it?”  Then, finding a cure to her health was another realistic story, and finding out that Craig was her real father.  Anything that’s reality based is what I’m getting to.  I would welcome any job that brings me back and gives me an opportunity to dive into something real.

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Would you welcome the opportunity to play a gay character on daytime; in a medium where there are very few represented in storylines?

KEVIN:  I’d have no problem with that.  Do you know anybody who is starting that?  Let’s do it!  (Laughs) First of all, there’s nothing to hide anymore.  There’s nothing to pretend you’re not anymore.  I would think that bringing in a storyline that deals with anything outside the norm that we are used to seeing would be interesting.  How many times can you retell a story?  How many times can you set the same story up with another couple?  So, why not be diverse and have a stylized story being told through the lens of a gay person.

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In closing, so many go through life without acknowledging people who had an impact them.  We don’t give pats on the back, often enough, and especially in Hollywood, where people can be very self-involved.  You have already paid tribute to Michael Slade in our discussion, but what gift from him is your personal takeaway?

KEVIN:  The gift that Michael really gave to me is to remember to be kind to myself and to others, and to acknowledge and salute the person who is in front of us, because we don’t know when we will have, or if we will have, another moment to do that.

Now below, check out the trailer for Riley’s Unforgettable School Project.  Then let us know, what do you think of its concept? Kevin’s thoughts on the passing of his collaborator on the project, Michael Slade? And, do you hope DAYS brings back Dr. Craig Wesley? Share your thoughts via the comment section.

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GH’s Kin Shriner Talks on Franco’s Demise, Scott’s Budding Romance with Obrecht, and His Enduring On-Screen Partnership with Genie Francis

One of the most beloved actors in the history of General Hospital, Kin Shriner, currently finds his alter-ego, Scott Baldwin, in a new budding on-screen romance with none other than Liesl Obrecht (Kathleen Gati).

This comes on the heels of Scott learning the devastating news that his son, Franco Baldwin was shot and killed, thus writing-off the ABC daytime drama series, for now, popular actor, Roger Howarth.

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Throughout his now almost 44-year-run on the ABC daytime drama series, Kin Shriner has brought his unique acting chops that helped mold the character of legal eagle Scott Baldwin into the humorous, at times cutthroat, endearing and many times heartbreaking character we have all come to love.’

 

In a brand new exclusive virtual sit-down interview with Michael Fairman on You Tube’s The Michael Fairman Channel, Shriner opens up about his history with GH and the times he stepped away to take on roles on Texas and As the World Turns, and then back again to the town of Port Charles and GH.

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As well, Kin reveals his reaction to learning the news that Roger Howarth would be exiting the show as his TV son and how he shot the key emotional scene where Laura (Genie Francis) tells Scott that Franco had died.  Shriner shares that he does not see how when Howarth returns to the show in as a yet-to-be-revealed character, that it would be a stretch if the two were some how related, but that he will miss working with the talented Howarth as a scene-partner.

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As to the women in Scott’s life, Kin addresses each of them from: Lucy (Lynn Herring), Bobbie (Jackie Zeman), Dominque (Shell Danielson), Laura (Francis), Ava (Maura West) – to which the character could never get that close to – and now Liesl (Gati), and working opposite all the powerhouse actresses who portray them.

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For fans of General Hospital who have watched the series for decades, Kin also shares memories of working with his late TV parents, Peter Hansen (Lee), Susan Brown (Gail) and his friend and former GH castmate John Reilly (Sean), plus backstage stories with his longtime scene partner, Genie Francis.

Watch the entire conversation with Kin below.

Now let us know, are you all for the Scott and Liesl romance? Will you miss scenes between Scott and Franco?  Would you ever want to see Scott and Laura reunite romantically? Share your thoughts in the comment section.

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