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thaao_black.jpgIn this exclusive On-Air On-Soaps interview, Days of our Lives actor Thaao Penghlis, who has played Tony Dimera on and off for over several decades, talks openly and honestly about being one of the actors and characters let-go by executive producer, Ken Corday, as part of the show’s final budget cuts and cast trimming.

As many “DAYS” and soap fans know, a few weeks ago came word that Thaao was being written off the show in an upcoming murder mystery whodunit. Thaao explains that he feels ageism was part of the decision making process, including what happened with other soap veterans, Deidre Hall, Drake Hogestyn, Stephen Nichols and Mary Beth Evans. Next, we learn what’s going to precipitate Tony’s exit and storyline, and Thaao talks about his feelings on departing the show and embarking on a new career path. We do touch on his thoughts on head writer,
Dena Higley, former head writer, James
Reilly, and former co-executive producer,
Ed Scott.

In this revealing interview, Thaao says goodbye to his fans and talks about his new projects. Always the world traveler, he talks about his upcoming travel plans and gives an in-depth look, and his sentiments, into the daytime soap machine.


How did you find out you were being let-go from “DAYS”?


I was overseas in Cuba doing some mission work. I don’t think that Ken Corday knew, but he left me a message to call him. I kind of knew, or had a sense, because you did not get many calls from Ken unless they are ominous in some way. They used to call you once when you did good work, but those things don’t happen anymore.


Every actor I spoke with in recent months has told me when you get called in to the office it’s usually not a good sign.


Yes, it never used to be that way. I do not know why it happens this way, and I don’t know what’s happened to the heart of things.


How did you feel hearing, once again, that the show was going to “kill” off Tony Dimera? You have been “killed” off “DAYS” numerous times in the past!


It stayed with me for about half a day. You think to yourself, “How many times can you kill me? And how many times do they always have the same feel about it?” And then you go, “Wait a minute? Do I take this personally? Why does this character have to be killed?” I don’t know what that is.


So, what did Ken say to you?


Ken told me the character is going to be “killed” in a “whodunit.” He said, “You’ve been killed before and you’ve always come back,” but not this time. I think this is it for me. I am looking elsewhere, and it wasn’t that I did not anticipate this.


We had talked previously that they were not even using you and Leann Hunley (Anna) on-screen.


Yeah, and this head writer looked me right in the eye and said at the Emmys, “There is nothing she couldn’t write for me,” and the fact of the matter is she was going to bring me into an autism story. Then all these stories were developing with the Dimeras and John, and EJ and Tony, and the estate, and Stefano was dying. Then a new producer came in.


Yes, Gary Tomlin replaced Ed Scott as the new co-executive producer at “DAYS”. How did you feel about seeing Ed go?


I was sorry to see Ed Scott go. He was more hands-on and appreciative of actors. He would come out and really let you know how he felt, but he is a different kind of human being, I think.


What did Leann say when you told her the news of your upcoming departure from Salem?


She was sad, because we did not have anything really to play. Even the writer thaao_leann.jpgsaid to us, “You two have chemistry you can’t buy.” So, I am not taking it personally. It’s their choices. They are entitled to the expression they want to play. I can’t turn around and say to them, “You’re not being fair, it’s terrible.” They’re not really, it’s just someone coming in and creating a different recipe with the ingredients they need for the recipe. I have been around and survived as an actor my entire lifetime, so it’s not like Gary Tomlin is an ogre or the head writer is terrible, its not. They are just who they are, and they want to tell other stories. You just have to know when its time to move. It’s just not pleasant, finishing the character and dying again. I don’t like those kinds of things… death and coffins. James Reilly, ex head writer “DAYS”, put me in a coffin for three days, and Gary was a friend of James Reilly, and they are the two people that have killed me.


When you look at “DAYS” now, with the departure of so many long time veterans and icons of the genre, what do you think?


“DAYS” is not “DAYS” anymore. It’s an extension of what it was; it’s not the body or the heart of what it was. We were all part of that, especially those that just left and I think we were the best of daytime. I think, hands down, the James Reilly’s of the world have destroyed daytime. They took the thing that people watched, which was great reality and passions, and made it into somewhat of a joke and cartoons. However, I must say, the fact that “DAYS” has remained on so long is a credit to the show. It has such a wonderful history and I will miss it.


Will Leann be leaving or spending time in the murder mystery?


I am sure she will be visiting my grave.


Do you think she might be a suspect then, to facilitate her exiting the canvas?


She needs to have some kind of mourning period, and then Anna will probably decide she needs to go to a nunnery. (He laughs)


Will Tony be stirring up a lot of trouble in his last month and half in Salem?


Yes, and I am enjoying that! I like to disturb! It’s all coming out that it’s not Nicole’s child and Tony finds out. I am having hassles with everybody. Suddenly, I am having arguments with everybody, so it’s one of those, “Who do I disturb the most?” I know how I go, but it will be something that will set up the battle between the Kiriakis and the Dimeras families.


Will it be a bloody death? You know, bullets through you kind of thing?


Are you asking me if am I dying with dignity? It’s not going to be as bad as that, I don’t think.


So, who will you be mixing it up with to precipitate this murder?


I have got some interesting stuff with some of the females on the show. I know Joe Mascolo (Stefano), is very upset that I will soon be exiting the show.


So, for “DAYS” and Tony fans when can we say you will be on-air till?


I will be shooting about 16 shows, and those will all be airing through the end of March.


Have you spoken to Mary Beth Evans (Kayla) and Stephen Nichols (Patch) since they have also been given the pink slip from the series? In a recent issue of Soap Opera Digest, Ken Corday was quoted as saying, “We are done.” (with the cast cutting) I’m going to let the cast know that this is the week we start our new contract with NBC and the difficult, onerous, painful bloodletting of this transition is over.”


I have not spoken to them, but they knew. Mary Beth had come to me after they had spoken to the producer and were told, “There were too many actors on the show over 40, and they had to let some go.” The interesting thing is Ken said, “It had nothing to do with ageism.” And yet, every one of us who was let go was over 40. To me, it is about ageism,
because these are all wonderful characters
on the show.


Did you feel at some point that “DAYS” head writer, Dena Higley, was not going to write for you?


She did give me a clue one day. She said when she first came to the show, “I noticed you were playing two characters and I thought to myself, who wants to go there”? And I thought, “Well, that does not sound encouraging.” It only got me an Emmy nomination. I do not have complaints about it. They gave me many wonderful years of employment. I used that employment to have my own education to travel the world. In the big picture, “Am I upset about it?” No. I just wish they did not dangle me around for the last year.


How is Deidre Hall (Ex- Marlena) doing?


She is doing great, and it’s the first time in years she felt she didn’t have to run anywhere. She was really upset when she called me and found out I was “let-go”. We had a good laugh, and we are going to meet and have lunch together. She is not bitter.


There are some rumblings that you have a new show on the Sci-fi Channel?


This thing, “Emissary”, I was excited about because I was getting to work again with Phil Morris, who I worked with on “Mission Impossible”. It’s a series being developed for an Internet series on the Sci-Fi Channel website, and beyond that, they are trying to get it sold to television. So, it could be very intriguing.


What would you like to say to your fans?


I must say fans can be fleeting, but I have had a core of fans. I know the actors that have gone before me have, too. You can’t have lasted this long and be able to come back this many times without having a base to support you, and the fans are terrific. It’s something you do that makes them feel that you have changed the way they have looked at things, or you have amused them in some way, or scared them, and they have stayed around to support you. They have been amazing, and so supportive. And it’s almost like you become an extension of them. Their responses have been interesting. I have had great stories and gotten the chance to play challenging things. I have no animosity. I go to work and I see wonderful faces and people who I appreciate, and through their reflection, you see how much you have grown. In the 80’s people would day, “Thaao’s on set!” thaao_outdoors.jpgThis was back in the 80’s. I could be a bit difficult in the way I would approach getting to things, but as I have matured, I have been able to be very quiet in my approach to work, so I do not upset those around me. In other words, when I come into the room, I like when people get excited. I don’t want to waste time, and I know my lines and I am going to surprise them. In many ways you support the fans that way. For them to keep guessing, you have to be able to keep that mystery going. I have certainly hooked enough people through the years to feel embraced ,and I have really appreciated it. Also, I really appreciate Ken Corday. It does not matter what people will say about him. My whole thing is when I step away from Ken, I just say, “Thank you for letting me be the best of it!” He and I have always clicked well.


So, will there be no on-set ceremony commonly known around “DAYS”, as “The Cake of Death?”


The way I am going to do it is do my work, give my embraces to a few, and go home and go on to the next thing.


As you are set to exit, and “DAYS” fans prepare for the next month of storytelling, what can we do to tease to the fans?


I would say, there is going to be a tinge of Andre in the work, and this mischievous side of Tony that likes disturbing happy people.


What gets Tony so riled up?


I think, in many ways, he talked about not being appreciated, because EJ is the “Golden Boy”. Even though Tony knows Stefano loves him more than anyone, suddenly the storyline went from EJ and me being friendly against daddy, to where he goes with daddy and I am left alone. It’s hard because the through line has not been clear. What I am left with are all the ingredients of what is going to be passionate, disturbing and volatile. The trouble is that there won’t be romance or any love. I don’t know where my poor wife is! It’s strange. The fans will get some of the old Tony and Andre. I have not seen the death script yet, but I think I am just being used as a ploy to bring up the war between the Dimera’s and Kiriakis’s


Since the soap industry has fallen on some very hard times recently, due in part to our nations economic struggles, do you think “DAYS” will survive and be on the air for sometime to come?


I will put it this way: My astrologist last November said, (and he is really terrific), I will be finished by May of 2009 and that the show will not be on past January 2010.


Where will your travels take you next?


I am going to Iran next. I have not worked that out yet. I would like to see Iran and Lebanon. I also want to go to Sicily and China.


Really, you want to go to Iran? Don’t you worry about safety when traveling with so much conflict in the world


I am not stupid when I travel, and you learn what to trust and what not to trust. As I said to a Turkish Rug dealer in Istanbul, “I have been through the crooks in Hollywood!” (He laughs)

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Wisdom excelleth folly, as far as light excelleth darkness: The wise man’s eyes are in his
head; yet he goe’s the way of
the fool in the dark.

Brave Thaao of the Penghlis, may your many journeys be filled with joy and excitement,
hope you find many golden fleeces along the way. Watch out for Apate’ she can be
tricky, but I’m sure Athena will give you all the protection you need.



The darkest part of the night is just before dawn.


May GOD be with you in all you do.

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Eric Martsolf Talks Brady Being Duped & His Co-Stars; Galen Gering & Camila Banus Chat Hernandez Siblings On ‘Inside Salem: Days of our Lives Podcast’

On the latest episode of the Inside Salem: Days of our Lives Podcast, Eric Martsolf (Brady Black) chats with host. Michael Fairman as Brady’s story hits a major turning point!  As DAYS fans know, Brady recently hit the sheets with “Nicole” who was Kristen in disguise.

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During the podcast conversation, Eric explains how he has to sometimes suspend belief to make stories work in daytime which included Brady not figuring out that “Nicole” was Kristen, although it certainly re-ignited his thoughts of her!  Plus, he chimes in on the fun he has had working with his co-stars: Arianne Zucker (“Nicole”) and Stacy Haiduk (Kristen/Susan) in their many scenes

Later, Eric tries to remember all of the loves of Brady’s life that crashed and burned, and is posed the question, “What would he think if Days of our Lives SORAS’d Brady’s son, Tate, to an 18-year-old?


Then, the podcast goes behind the scenes for a dressing room segment where Galen Gering (Rafe) welcomes his on-screen sister, Camila Banus (Gabi).  The two banter about their on-screen and off-screen relationship as brother/sister and friends, and how much they value one another as they create the Hernandez sibling dynamic.

To download the episode via iTunes click here.   To listen to the podcast via Salem click here.

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So, what do you think Brady should do now after the mess he finds himself in due to Kristen’s manipulations? Comment below.

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DAYS Promo: What’s Going To Happen At Jarlena’s Wedding Anniversary Shindig?

Coming up next week on Days of our Lives, prepare for drama, drama, and more drama! From the looks of the latest promo for the NBC soap opera, the action takes place at Marlena (Deidre Hall) and John’s (Drake Hogestyn) surprise one-year wedding anniversary soirée, where things could take a deadly turn!

But with the Kristen (Stacy Haiduk) masquerading as “Nicole” plot reaching new heights, Anna DiMera (Leann Hunley) and Tony DiMera (Thaao Penghlis) back in Salem, and the promo telling viewers “For one guest, the party, is over” followed by Sonny (Freddie Smith) yelling, “She’s got a gun!” and Brady’s (Eric Martsolf) ending line, “Oh, my God!” there is plenty to conjecture.

Also seen in the teaser is Kate (Lauren Koslow) trying to rip off the face of Susan Banks (Stacy Haiduk), and Stefan (Brandon Barash) and Gabi (Camila Banus) getting hot and heavy and Eric (Greg Vaughan) yelling, “No!”

So, check out the promo below and then let us know via the comment section below, what you think is about to go down at Jarlena’s party, where last August at their nuptials … things did not go off without a hitch, either!

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DAYS Stacy Haiduk and Eric Martsolf Talk Kristen & Brady’s Twisted Relationship : The Mask, The Deception, The Sex

Last week on Days of our Lives, Kristen (Stacy Haiduk) was able to get the man she craves in between the sheets.  So, just how did that happen when Brady Black (Eric Martsolf) had no idea she was alive?  Well … he still doesn’t, really.  You see, Kristen returned to Salem disguised as another ex flame of Brady’s, Nicole Walker (who everyone believed died in the warehouse explosion).  And Kristen has been parading around town donning an incredible likeness of Nicole’s face – via a prosthetic mask – and some other tricks to sound and look just like her!

Kristen’s goal is to infiltrate Salem, remind Brady of the love and passion they shared, take over DiMera Enterprises, and who knows what else!  And everyone who stands in her way, better watch out as we have seen! We are speaking to you (the late) Ted, and (once kidnapped) Kate, et al.

Fans of the NBC daytime drama series have followed the tortured relationship between Kristen and Brady for years and through many plots; Kristen was first played and brought to life by Eileen Davidson, and for well over a year now by Stacy Haiduk.  Not only has Haiduk reprised the role of a frustrated, vengeful Kristen, she is also playing at times multiple roles: the wacky and often misunderstood, Susan Banks, Kristen playing Susan, or Kristen pretending to be Sister Mary Moira.

As for Daytime Emmy winner, Eric Martsolf, this latest story arc puts him front and center as viewers watch to see if what Brady senses, and the clues, and the feelings he is having, bring him to the conclusion that he has been duped by Kristen, and that her horrendous scheme – pretending to be Nicole (Arianne Zucker), and dumping Nicole’s longtime love Eric (Greg Vaughan) to be with him have a result that is unexpected or catastrophic!

Michael Fairman TV sat down with Stacy and Eric for this conversation about: all the plot twists, and playing the drama and the humor of the situations they find themselves in as actors in a wild story that only head writer Ron Carlivati could pen and keep the audience on the edge of their seats in the process. Check out this oh-so-fun, direct, and enlightening chat with two of DAYS most shining stars.

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Eric, what has it been like working in this part of your storyline; where there’s the character of Kristen in its many forms: Arianne Zucker playing “Nicole” (but it’s really Kristen), Kristen as Susan, and the real Kristen, etc?

ERIC:  It’s been a nightmare Michael.  (Laughs)  I don’t know who I’m sleeping with anymore.  I’m at the point where I go home at night, and I just tug on my wife’s cheek just to make sure that she is not my ex-girlfriend from high school.

When you first heard of this storyline, and that it was going to facilitate how Arianne was going to come back to the show… and that it was supposed to be Kristen in a Nicole Walker prosthetic mask with a voice alternator, what went through your mind?

ERIC:  I think in the back of Ron’s Carlivati’s (head writer, DAYS) mind, he was thinking to himself, “This dude started his soap career on Passions, he’s okay with this kind of thing,” and honestly, nothing surprises me anymore.  When you’re thrown into that supernatural, crazy reality, doesn’t-live-here sort of atmosphere for you first soap gig, you don’t sweat a mask and a voice modulator.  That’s just par for the course.  My biggest problem was the body thing … that Brady is not able to distinguish one body from the other, because I would as Eric.  My God, I know every inch of my wife’s body.  So, it’s difficult to get my head around that, but at the same time, I’m going with the whole “love is blind” thing here. (Laughs)


(Laughs) I was going just going to say that Brady would absolutely know Kristen’s body from how passionate their relationship has been in the past, as well, he would Nicole’s body from his relationship with her.

ERIC:  Since Kristen did finally just succeed – let’s use the word in “seducing” him, and using her wonderful feminine wiles as only Kristen has to get Brady in to bed, there was also another twist.  What plays after that is that he notices the tattoo that’s been removed, and she plays it off as scarring from the fire.  What’s going through his mind as he is making love to Nicole is a “Kristen train”.  He can’t get Kristen out of his mind, and the guilt that he feels about that is horrendous.

Right! Brady is thinking: “Why am I feeling this when I am supposed to be with Nicole!?”

ERIC:  Right!  Brady has been waiting for a relationship for God knows how many years now – at least a successful one.  He is so eager to have this work, even though he has been concerned about how Eric (Greg Vaughan) would feel about this.  In Brady’s mind, Eric is done with Nicole.  He’s good.  He loves Sarah (Linsey Godfrey).  This is fair game.  Brady and Nicole have always been close … they’ve been close before … so, for him, it’s, why not give it a fair try?   However, he finds himself now thinking about another woman the whole time.  That’s rough.


Do you think in the back of his mind, that this whole time, he possibly knew that “Nicole” was Kristen?

ERIC:  Well, you just have to wait.  There will be a reveal eventually, obviously, but until then, let the games play on.

So, once Brady and “Nicole” have sex, he keeps thinking about Kristen?

ERIC:  Constantly!  She just plagues his mind.  I think he’s realizing that his affection for Kristen is anything but dead and is very alive, and I think this is Kristen’s master plan from the very beginning.  She knows that she pervades his soul, and once she does reveal herself, I would guess he would probably be surprised, maybe a little angry, but in the end … you can’t deny what your heart and your body wants, right?

One of my favorite recent scenes had Brady half-naked and Kristen as Susan getting into his room, because she was looking for the MIA Nicole mask she so desperately needed.  She finds herself gawking and lusting after Brady under her disguise, and he tries to remove himself from the situation and says, “Susan, I’m going to get in the shower…”

ERIC:  Yeah! And, “It’s not going to happen, baby.”

What was that like doing that scene?

STACY:  I loved it!  I thought Eric was brilliant in it.  I watched it, and I thought, “Oh, my God!”  (Laughs) It is one of my all-time favorite scenes.

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ERIC:  Kristen is a tiger.

STACY:  She is a tiger.  She’s got a goal, and she is going to go after that.  She has obstacles that are going to come in-between her goal, but she will go after whatever she wants.

When Stacy comes in to Brady’s room as Susan, were you not laughing?

ERIC: No!  I thought she was hot. (Laughs)

STACY:  He did … he loved it.  You liked me, didn’t you baby? (Laughs)

ERIC:  I don’t think anybody can deny that Stacy Haiduk’s portrayal of Susan Banks is ridiculously good.  Everything from her delivery … to her facial expressions.  I think it is amazing.  I mean, it is corny, and it is fun, and soaps need characters like that once in a while to lighten the load of the heavy dialogue and the drama.  It’s a welcomed addition.  So, I love playing scenes with Susan.

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Eric, you always have been able play the straight-man so well in comedic scenes with impeccable timing,

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STACY:  You’re brilliant, Eric.

ERIC:  You guys are being very nice to me.

STACY:  You are.  I remember on the day how much fun we had, but then, seeing it back and the crap that I was giving you, and just the stuff you were giving back was so beautiful, and innocent, and so alive.  It was so funny.

Does Kristen think that now that she finally got Brady into bed that she won … that she got what she wanted … even if she had to don a “Nicole” mask to do it?

STACY:  Well, no, because she still can’t be really Kristen.  I think she is grateful that she gets to be with him.  That’s one of her biggest goals: to be with Brady and she wants to have him fall back in love with her again.  But for her, now it’s all about, “How do I reveal myself so that he doesn’t get scared away?”  That’s the toughest part for her.  Kristen’s love is so deep that it goes beyond this mask.  So, how is it going to be when he sees her?   Is he going to freak out?  What’s going to happen?

ERIC:  Did you think Kristen would be a little pissed off and think, “Oh my God.  He did go for Nicole?”

STACY:  Yes!  I do, because she’s like, “Finally, I got him!  But wait a minute … did I get him because I was Nicole … or because I was Kristen?”  As Kristen, she always believes there is something deeper between them and a deep connection.  That remains a driving force to her.

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ERIC:  That’s why I love these characters so much, because of you and the history of Kristen with Brady.  She’s always wanted him as much as he has wanted her.  She’s always wanted to be loved.

STACY:  Yes … and very much so.

ERIC:  Kristen had always wanted to be a part of the DiMera Empire, just as Brady has always wanted to be a part of the Kiriakis Empire, and they’ve always wanted love.  They’ve never had it.  They believe in the back of their minds that anything is attainable.  So, I can see why Kristen would just forgo the Nicole disguise and just go, “He wants me.”

STACY:  Kristen wants to believe that Brady knows it.  She says to herself, “He knows it’s me inside and behind the mask.  When he finds out, he will fall back in love with me.”

Now that she actually had sex with Brady, wouldn’t that make Kristen even more insatiable to be with him? Like, “I’ve got to have him!?”

STACY:  The fear is still .. what happens she takes this mask off?  She always says, “I’ll reveal myself, but I have to do it slowly when it is the right time.”  I think there is that built up frustration now for her, absolutely!

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Arianne Zucker really has Stacy’s mannerisms down as Kristen.  It really comes into in scenes where “Nicole” goes off on someone or loses her temper.  Eric, you have worked with Arianne for years on this show.  What do you think about her performances in this storyline?

ERIC:  I have worked with Ari over the years, and I have enjoyed it a lot.  Ari did do her homework.  She did study Stacy’s tape, and she watched her mannerisms, and she took it very seriously.  I know that because she is a hard worker, as much as a goofball as she is, she does work hard, and she wanted it to be good.  I think my favorite parts were the Kristen meltdowns.  You have to understand though; Stacy and Ari get along very well!  They’re kind of two peas in a pod.  So, it wasn’t a big stretch for her to take on how Stacy would play those types of scenes.  They’re both animated, they’re both wild people by nature, and so, it was a good fit.  It was a smart idea from the writers.

STACY:  It was a good fit!

ERIC:  I’ve been out with the two of them, and it’s hard to tell the two of them apart. (Laughs)

STACY:  We are just like two cuddly bunnies.

ERIC:  They’re like flirting with each other, and hugging each other.  You find yourself thinking, “Are they going to start ordering the same food at the same time?  This is getting weird. (Laughs)


In the recent scene that aired; where Kristen as “Nicole” turns off the light while having sex with Brady, is she worried her plan will now go awry?

STACY:  Yes.  I think she is worried about her body because it is burned.  You know, how they take a tattoo off, and it’s as painful as can be.  Not that I’ve had that done personally.  I like my tats, but I hear it is painful.  So, in the storyline, the burn is that pain that she has and the tattoo. There’s a part of her that thinks,  she has to cover it up, and turn the lights down low.

ERIC:  “Nicole” is sleeping, and Brady is rubbing his hands over her shoulder and touching her body, and as he goes over the burn marks.  He sees a flash of the tattoo!  That is a pivotal moment when he starts to put some pieces together.   He thinks, “Woah! That’s exactly where that tattoo was.”  It’s a slow little rollercoaster ride.


In the past, Kristen then played by Eileen Davidson, drugged and raped Father Eric.  Stacy, did you ever see that story arc?  Literally the sex scene is playing on the screen at Kristen’s wedding to Brady and then all hell breaks loose.  This to say Kristen is notorious for the ways and the lengths she goes to get her men into bed.

STACY:  Yes! I saw her Eileen do those scenes.

ERIC:  You also saw how close Kristen and Brady were to their dream, to their happiness, their goal, which was they were going to marry each other.  Brady is looking upon his loved ones in this town and thinking, “I know what you all think of her, but I’m going to show you our love on this screen, and once you see the connection that we have here as a couple, you all are going to be convinced that we belong together as well.  This is the happiest day of my life,” and the screen comes up and it’s his brother banging Kristen instead.

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STACY:  It was so good.  See, I try to find as much info as I can on the character’s past, because all of the time I’m trying to find where these characters have been in their dark and twisted past.

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ERIC:  You’re putting your own stamp on Kristen.  You got a direct call from DAYS casting department, didn’t you … when they were recasting the role?

STACY:  Yes.  You have to understand, I had two really separate characters to play when I was on Y&R.  One was a doctor, and one was this crazy passionate, wild, little minx.

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ERIC:  I will say to find the wild and the beauty in one package is not easy in any town, yet alone Los Angeles.  I’m glad they called you, because you have that.  You have that villainous nature, but you also are able to show a vulnerable side to Kristen that is going to be a lot of fun and interesting to see.

Stacy is one of those people that will leap off of the screen at you and you will remember her.  She is one actress that will have fans talking about their work, like when you played crazy Patty Williams on Y&R.  The audience was on the edge of their seats going, “Oh, my God!  What is Patty going to do next?”

STACY:  I never knew what she was going to do!

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Eric, has Stacy come to you at any point where she been overwhelmed by the task at hand; playing Susan while playing Kristen, etc, and the two of you have a moment where you work through some of the challenges of complex scenes  … and ones where she is playing multiple characters?

ERIC:  We’ve had many moments  to speak of.

STACY:  I always come into Eric’s room, and am like, “I’m scared!”

ERIC:  It’s funny you mention it.  We have had some very emotional scenes, and Stacy – who cares so damn much about this job and portraying this character correctly – that she gets a little overwhelmed, and the material that they give her is overwhelming for any anybody on any level.  I have looked at her in the eyes, and said, “You’ve got this gig.  You are this character.  You are knocking it out of the park.  Just do it.  Just be you.”   I can’t wait for people to see some of the stuff we have shot recently and have been doing.

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Stacy, do you think Kristen can be redeemed? Many characters on daytime … and on DAYS … have done horrible things and later turned over a new leaf.

STACY:  The thing is that villains are bad and all that other crap, but they’ve got a lot of stuff going on inside and insecurities, and they’ve got a heart.  I’m sorry, the villain with a heart of gold, can be very  true.  I never see villains (and I play them a lot) as bad.  You have to find where it comes from … how far does this go … where did that little seed change … and what made them go into the dark, but also, where is the good?  You want to bring the good to it, too.

ERIC:  Let’s face it!  Star Wars is all about Darth Vader and how he became that because it’s intriguing.

Because of the pace in which DAYS tapes its episodes; do the two of you find time to run lines together before you go hit the set?

ERIC:  We are running out of time to run lines.  It’s pretty wild.  Funnily enough, I was recently filming a movie and I was so underwhelmed at the pace of everything.  I’ve gotten so accustomed to moving at this militant style, that as hard as it is, it is preferable to me now.  I almost like it because you don’t have time to overthink what you are going to do, and you end up getting more visceral and natural reactions to the material.  You can overthink a scene, and you can come to a wrong performance that way.  When you burn your fingers on a hot stove, that’s the most natural reaction you are going to get.  You can’t have ten minutes to think about how you are going to scream about that pain.

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But, would you like the pace of shooting the show to be a bit slower?

STACY:  I would like to, but I do think sometimes just jumping in, and going and seeing what happens is great.  I love that.  I do appreciate that.

ERIC:  It’s scary.

STACY:  It is scary.  I would love if we would get to do a rehearsal and then two takes just to see, and then they can mix  together what happens.  Sometimes I am hard on myself as an actress.  I’ve always been.  It’s that jumping in when you only get to do one take.  You have to just give it everything you’ve got.

ERIC:  You can have a second take.  Want me to give you a little secret?  All you have to do is screw up your last line.

STACY:  I can’t do that.   I don’t even need it to be perfect because nothing is perfect.  It doesn’t matter what I’ve done if I sometimes don’t feel it.  I need to feel it when I’m on that set.  I need to feel something because when I shut down, I close myself off.  It’s like an athlete who has just got to  train as hard as they can to reach their goal.

ERIC:  You’re an Olympic swimmer!

STACY:  You’ve got to do it as hard as you can.  You practice, and you practice, and you practice, and you practice, so that when you come to that day, you do the best you can, but sometimes you are disappointed because you didn’t get that one last thing you had hoped for.


How do you view what happened to Eric with Kristen, who disguised as Nicole, tricked Brady into bed with her?  Some fans commented that that they thought it was akin to a rape.

ERIC:  No, I would disagree with that theory.  I believe there is a high degree of deception in this, but there is a willingness on behalf of Brady.  He’s not drugged.  He’s not being forced to do anything.  Deception, yes.  Rape, no.

Stacy, what do you think?

STACY:  Total deception.  There is no rape.  There is absolutely no rape.  These are willing participants; he just doesn’t know exactly who he is dealing with.

ERIC:  I appreciate the context of how somebody could construe that, and the seriousness of the matter.  I don’t think it really has a place in this particular storyline.

Do you guys think that Brady and Kristen are each other’s star-crossed lovers in a weird, twisted, bizarre way?

ERIC:  I don’t know.  I think they’re magnetism can’t be denied.  I think the hurdles that they’ve jumped through are astronomical.  Will they end up together in the end?  Who knows!  Will there ever be an end?  Who knows!  It’s definitely been one of, if not the most, in-depth relationships Brady has ever had.

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And intense!

ERIC:  Yeah.  They’ve just gone through so much to be together, and when you do that, anybody who is married knows that, that’s where the good stuff is; the wars that you win together and the battles that you go through.  When you come out of the war, and you’re still together, that’s the bond.  That’s what lasts.

What would Kristen do if she couldn’t have Brady in the end?  Would she find a new obsession?  What if she could not nab her man?

STACY:  Wow!  Hmmm. (Laughs)  She’s going to get her man.  She wants her man.  She wouldn’t settle.  She’d keep fighting.  I would say to her, “Kristen, keep fighting the good fight.”

So, do you think Kristen will reveal herself to Brady sooner than later? Will Brady figure out what Kristen has been doing to get to him?  Will Brady turn Kristen away if he knew she was alive and back in action  … or would he fall back into her arms? Share your theories via the comment section below.

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