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Van Hansis and Kit Williamson Chat EastSiders Season Two: What Happens When Thom & Cal Venture Into An Open Relationship?

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On Tuesday, the highly-anticipated second season of the critically-acclaimed EastSiders made its debut on Vimeo on Demand.  The first three episodes were released, and the series continues to chronicle the very human, messed-up, and complex story of Silverlake-living Thom (Van Hansis) and Cal (Kit Williamson), as they struggle to define just what their relationship truly is, and where it is headed.

During season one where we met Thom and Cal, and their friends, viewers watched the implosion of their relationship in the aftermath of infidelity. Now in season two it looks like that these two young men have found a new way to experience one another and to be together – by adventuring upon an open relationship.

Raw, touching, and oh-so-funny, creator Kit Williamson infuses season two with witty dialog, and a no-judgment-look at couples exploring the boundaries of sex and love within the framework of the LGBT community.  Through twist and turns and shared experiences, can Cal and Thom actually find harmony with one another?  Or, will their new shared outlook eventually tear them apart yet again?

On-Air On-Soaps chatted with series stars: Van Hansis (beloved by soap fans for his performance as Luke Snyder on As the World Turns) and Kit Williamson, who continue to make EastSiders a must-see viewing.  During our conversation they discussed: the decision to make an open relationship a major theme throughout the season, and what they thinks this means for their character’s journey as they navigate through some very steamy, yet humorous sexual encounters.  The guys also share what went on during the filming of some of the standout scenes in the first half of the second season, and they deliver a preview of what is to come when the second half of the season arrives on October 1st.  Here’s our chat with Van and Kit!

When creating season two of EastSiders, what went into the decision to have it be about these two guys evolution in their relationship, which was having an open one?

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KIT:  I thought a lot about what I wanted season two to be. I know a lot of people were very invested in the love triangle from season one.  But, I don’t think you can retread the same storyline, especially when you take a break between the seasons.  You have to let the characters evolve and change.  It just seemed like the natural place to go when you have had your relationship completely redefined.  You have to build it back up from scratch.  After Cal moved out of his apartment with Thom and they start seeing each other again, they are tasked with redefining what that relationship is to one another.

Van, when read the scripts and found out that the next turn in Cal and Thom’s complex relationship would be that they would be having sex together … with other men … what was your initial reaction?

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VAN:  I thought the scripts were awesome.  I went to L.A. in April of last year and we had a big sit-down with all the cast members and read through the scripts.  Kit has mentioned that may be the direction the characters would be going in, and I really liked it.  One thing that I liked about the first season was it was telling an old story in a new way – in telling a story of infidelity.  I feel like this now is a logical expansion of that story.  You see the stories that are cautionary tales such as, “Don’t do this, or it will ruin your relationships, etc.”  That’s not the case with EastSiders.  I think a lot of people can throw side-eyes at these characters for this, but they are having a good time for the most part. There are challenges within it, but I think the show does a really good job of exploring those challenges.  Also, not being judgmental about where these characters are taking their lives.

In the third episode when Thom and Cal are having many a ménage à trios with guy, after guy, after guy, it was some of the funniest material I have seen!  These men they hook up with all have twisted back-stories, or weird sexual appetites, and so on, and so forth.  Did you have fun filming those moments?

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VAN:  Oh, my God!  Those scenes were so funny!  But the scenes with all of those guys we basically did that all in one day!  First off, it was 9,000 degrees in the bedroom.   It was filming in a sauna, basically.  We were in states of undress, and I felt really badly for the crew who was dripping with sweat.  But the stuff that those guys were doing was so funny.  Numerous takes were just ruined, because people couldn’t stop laughing.

KIT:  Yes!  We shot in the summer and you have to turn the air conditioning off when you’re filming because of noise, and we were shooting all day.

And so after all of their trysts, they didn’t have a moment thinking, “Wow, this is truly creepy!”  Or, perhaps were they thinking instead, “Wow, this so works!”

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KIT:  What I hope you see in that episode is that no matter how creepy the people that enter their lives and their bedroom are, and whether it’s a good experience or not, it’s actually bringing Cal and Thom closer together as they explore a side of themselves that they never have.  I don’t think either of them got the opportunity to date very much before they found each other.  I think this is part of why Cal lashes out so much in season one, and becomes such a sex monster. (Laughs)  It’s because he was a virgin up until the point he started dating Thom, and put so much stock in fidelity, and in their monogamy. So when that was shattered, he had no idea who he was.

Originally, Thom was the dog in the relationship!  Wouldn’t you agree?

KIT:  Thom started out as a dog in season one, for sure.  He was the one that sort of broke the trust and set everything rolling, but then he spends the rest of the season making up for it, and being faithful.  Meanwhile, Cal is sleeping with Jeremy and his boss, and just generally being as self-destructive as a person could be.

Van, do you believe Thom is then truly happy with what is going on in his relationship with Cal at this point?

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VAN:  I think there is a lot of confusion of what is going on, but I think he is happy he is back with Cal, and that they are trying to find a new way of working things out.  However, like most of the times on this show no one is ever just happy.  No one is just upset.  There are shades and variations of what is going on, so I think there is definitely some of that happening.  They have never been in an open relationship before.  I think, as Kit had mentioned, what is important to them is that this is their experience together.  So there is always the thing of, “Are you enjoying this as much as I am?  Is this making us happy?”  It’s now about the “we” instead of … is this making “me” happy?

Is the sex-therapist/waiter, who they are sleeping with, truly, advising them in a therapist capacity? (Laughs)

KIT:  This may be the last advice he gives, but he continues to play an important part in the show. (Laughs)

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What about the character of Jeremy (Matthew McKelligon) at this point?  He seems so lost now!  Who did he truly want to be with?  He slept with both Cal and Thom, individually, last season.

KIT:  Yes.  He’s a total mess.  He is totally turned upside down by what happened in season one and getting his heart broken, and has kind of let his life implode.  He’s lost all of his clients, and has had to move in with his sister and her wife.  Jeremy is kind of freeloading right now in their guest room smoking pot, and babysitting their kids.  I also felt he was most interested in Thom.  I think he became interested in Cal as an extension of Thom, and to be closer to Thom. You will definitely be seeing more of Jeremy in the next three episodes.

What can you preview for viewers to look forward to come October when the final three episodes of the season are released?

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KIT:  I would say that things are not as peaceful as they seem, and that Cal and Thom have a lot more to work out then their sex lives.

There was one thing that remained a staple this season … the booze intake!  There has been lots of drinking going on in season two!

VAN: Yes!  They have an open relationship with alcohol. (Laughs)

KIT:  I think the Cal is self-aware that he actually drinks too much, but I don’t think he believes he is an alcoholic.  Like any other form of excess in his life, Cal is constantly trying to rein things in and finding it difficult.

In season two, Brianna Brown (Ex-General Hospital, Devious Maids) appears on the scene as Cal’s sister, and she drinks quite heavily in EastSiders too!  (Laughs)

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KIT:  Yeah, she also plays a big lush!  You can look forward to Traci Lords coming in and drinking a lot as well! (Laughs)

What do you make of Thom’s journey in all of this?  Has he come to realize that he made any mistakes along the way in his relationship with Cal?

VAN:  I think with Thom there is a sense of him trying to play by the rules, but the rules keep changing.  I think he’s trying to adapt, but I think he has a lot of selfish proclivities, and he’s trying to work on those with Cal.  I think now that they are seeing each other, but living apart, Thom knows what he lost.  He wants that back, but the world that they have set up together now is so different than the world that they were in when they were a couple.  He is just trying to navigate those waters, and figure out who they are to each other with their world being very different.

Do you think the end goal for this duo is … that there would not be three-ways and multiple partners, but they can just be sexually with each other and be content with that?

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KIT:  I honestly don’t know.  I haven’t thought that far into the character’s future.  If we do a third season that would definitely be a question.  For me, it’s an interesting thing and as much as it’s the subject of this season and what actually happens, I think sex has become much less significant in their relationship by the fact they are having all of this sex with other people.  The really core important part of trust and communication happens outside of the bedroom.  That’s what I think they need to work on more than anything.

Overall, what do you think is the takeaway for season two?  It certainly may be very eye-opening to some in the viewing audience.

VAN:  I think this season is a bit more thought-provoking, because of its theme of open relationships and because it’s a story that is not told that much, nor is it a story told without judgment that much.  I think when people hear about that, they can get a bit closed off, because maybe they don’t know about it, or they don’t know what that world is.  We live in a society that it is looked down upon for people who choose to live like that.  I think it will be interesting to see how people respond to a love story, especially in regards to what happens when two people are in love, but they are not exclusive with each other.

Do you think that Thom or Cal have any concerns that one of them could potentially fall for one of the guys they are having a threesome with?

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KIT:  I think they aren’t even thinking about that.  And at this point in the season, there isn’t anybody who’s emerged as a danger. (Laughs)  Mostly, they have been having sex with a lot of weird guys. (Laughs)  For them, sex and friendship are kind of occupying a similar space, which is an angle on open relationships which I haven’t seen explored as often as the love triangle.  They may not be entirely done with jealously, but this season is not about a love triangle.

Van, if there is a third season for EastSiders, would you love to continue telling the story of this screwed-up yet, very human and compelling couple?

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VAN:  I would do season three in a heartbeat!  I love this show.  Kit is an incredible writer, and one thing that I love about this season is that it is really, really funny.  If we take this show further and after what Kit has told me, I am really excited about it.  I, for one, want to see what Cal and Thom are doing when they are in a retirement home in their 80’s, and how much trouble they could be getting in there! (Laughs)

What do you think about the series taking a look at the ramifications on an open relationship between a couple trying to find their way back to each other?  What did you think about Van and Kit’s comments on the second season of the acclaimed series?  Have you checked out the new season yet?  If so, what has been your favorite scene?  Make sure to watch a trailer for season two below.  Then, let us know your thoughts in the comment section below!

 

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For some SERIOUSLY odd reason SilverLake/WestHollyWood/Downtown LosAngeles gays are supposedly all the rage..well if you think it and make it so in your own head then you are…IT’S JUST A LIVING SPACE…NOT ALL THE RAGE…I wanna cuss but I won’t…

Kit Williamson is a genius beyond compare and Van Hansis is brilliant as always. The entire cast and crew have brought us something magical. I didn’t think it was possible to improve on season 1, but with season 2, the impossible has happened. You don’t want to miss a single minute of this webseries masterpiece!

Yes, let’s continue to portray gays as over-the-top promiscuous bc they don’t get that rep bad enough. Not to mention all the STDs out there among ALL people, we’ll just gloss over that and act like there couldn’t be consequences for such prromiscuity.

Even more fun than Season 1, and that’s a pretty high bar. Kit weaves such a multi-layered story, the new characters really add to the fun and intrigue, and Van demonstrates yet again what a truly fine actor he is. An absolute must see….and please let there be a Season 3!

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ATWT Alum Martha Byrne Pays Tribute to Eileen Fulton: “The Original Soap Star Who Paved the Way for the Likes of a Susan Lucci or Andrea Evans”

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Tributes and remembrances are pouring in for the the late Eileen Fulton, who passed away on July 14th at the age of 91. Fulton broke the soap opera mold back in the early 60’s when she was cast to play Lisa Miller on As the World Turns, who would turn out to be the first villiainess, vixen, and homewrecker of daytime television.

Fans of the soap loved to love to hate her for how she destroyed many lives in her quests to nab a husband; especially one she had set her sights set on. In fact, Lisa was married 8 times during the history of the show. Fulton was with ATWT on and off until the final year of the show in 2010.

Martha Byrne, who has been Fulton’s castmate for a time (Bryne played Lily Snyder from 1985 to 1989 and then again from 1993-2008 where she also played Rose D’Angelo), took to her account on x to share her thoughts on what Eileen meant to the genre, and also spoke on how Fulton handled not being as front and center on the soap operas as the years went by.

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“What can I say about Eileen Fulton. The original soap star who paved the road for the likes of a Susan Lucci or Andrea Evans,” began Bryne. “Since Eileen started on ATWT when the show was live, there aren’t enough pieces of history for us to truly grasp the enormity of her stardom and presence in the entertainment business. I remember being so impressed that she was a writer. The best part was she would use real stories from behind the scenes and change the names. Maybe that was her way of giving the audience a wink to include them even more.”

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Bryne went to share, “She (Eileen) loved her fans and she had many. I went to her one woman shows and the place was always packed. As the years went on and her role wasn’t as prominent as it had been she took it with class. I never heard her complain as many did who were frustrated they didn’t have a storyline. She was always a class act and a true pro who knew a storyline or another opportunity was only around the corner. She knew her value and was secure in herself. A national treasure who shaped the entire industry. Thank you Eileen. I’m sure there was a pink feather boa waiting for you just inside the pearly gates.”

So, what did you think about the sentiments shared by Martha on the legendary Eileen Fulton? Would you agree, as we have previously noted, that Lisa as played by Eileen, was really the prototype for all soap opera “bad girls” to follow? Did you appreciate the fact that while having a more diminished role over the last few decades of ATWT, Eileen took it in stride? Share your thoughts via the comment section below.

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‘As the World Turns’ Legendary Eileen Fulton Passes Away at 91

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The iconic Eileen Fulton, who was daytime’s first bad girl as Lisa Miller on As the World Turns, has died at the age of 91. According to the obituary on her passing, Fulton died earlier this week on July 14th in Asheville, North Carolina, after a period of declining health.

Fulton was born Margaret Elizabeth McLarty in Asheville on September 13, 1933. After studying acting in New York City, she changed her name to Eileen Fulton, when in 1960 she was cast in the film, Girl of the Night, co-starring with Anne Francis.

Eileen would change the face of daytime drama when in 1960 she was cast as the disruptor to the family dynamic, Lisa Miller, on the CBS soap opera. Throughout her ATWT run, the character of Lisa would eventually be married eight times to: Bob Hughes (1960–1964), John Eldridge (1965–1967), Michael Shea (1969–1970), Grant Coleman (1975–1979) ,Whit McColl (1982–1984), Earl Mitchell (1986–1987), Eduardo Grimaldi (1994–1995), and Martin Chedwyn (1996).

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ATWT historians know that Lisa’s full name by the time the series went off the air in 2010 was: Lisa Miller Hughes Eldridge Shea Colman McColl Mitchell Grimaldi Chedwyn. Fulton played the role with only brief interruptions until the show was cancelled that year making her one of the longest-running tenured soap opera actors in US history. Other performers who took on the role of Lisa in Fulton’s absence included: Jane Powell, Maeve McGuire, Pamela King, Betsy Von Furstenberg, Lynn Rogers and Carmen Duncan.

Throughout her time on ATWT, it was Fulton’s eagerness to play Lisa as a villainess that contributed to the character’s popularity and therefore its longevity. She was inducted into the Soap Opera Hall of Fame in 1998 and was awarded a Daytime Emmy Lifetime Achievement Award in 2004.  In addition, in 1988, Fulton received her first-ever Daytime Emmy Award nomination in the category of Outstanding Supporting Actress in a Daytime Drama Series.

The legendary star was also infamous for the grandmother clause she inserted into her contract that guaranteed she would never have to play a grandmother on the soap. In an interview with the LA Times in 2000 she shared, “At that time, grandmothers had no romance at all – and I wasn’t about to let that happen to me.” At some point, this all changed and she became OK with the idea of grandmother-hood. At one point, ATWT fans were so angry at the manipulative villainess played by Fulton that she had to employ a bodyguard to protect her.

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When Futon stepped away from the show, at one point, she left to star in ATWT”s 1965 spinoff Our Private World, which aired Wednesday and Friday nights on CBS. In the story, Lisa had fled Oakdale after dumping Bob to move to Chicago, where she wed the wealthy John Eldridge (Nicolas Coster, who later would play Eduardo Grimaldi). Our Private World was canceled after four months on the air, and Fulton went back to As the World Turns in 1966.

When Eileen received her Daytime Emmy Lifetime Achievement Award in 2004, she was part of a group of actors who also received the honor that year including: her ATWT co-stars, Don Hastings and Helen Wagner, plus Ruth Warrick, Frances Reid, John Clarke, Ray MacDonnell, Don Hastings, Jeanne Cooper, and Rachel Ames.

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For a time early in her career, Fulton not only was appearing in As The World Turns, which at that time was broadcast live, she was simultaneously appearing on Broadway in Who’s Afraid of Virginia Woolf and off-Broadway in the long-running musical The Fantasticks.

Fulton performed her cabaret act for many years in venues around New York and Los Angeles. In 1970, she co-authored her first autobiography, How My World Turns. In 1995 she co-authored a second autobiography, As My World Still Turns, to celebrate her 35th anniversary on As the World Turns. She also authored a series of mystery novels. In 2019, Eileen retired from show business and moved to Black Mountain, North Carolina.

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She is survived by her brother, Charles Furman McLarty (Karen) of Black Mountain; niece Katherine Morris (David) and their children, Everly Ann Morris and Easton Lane Morris of Fort Mill, S.C.; and sister-in-law Chris Page McLarty of Camden, Maine. She was pre-deceased by her parents and her brother, James Fulton McLarty.

Share your remembrances and condolences for Eileen Fulton via the comment section below, but first check out this classic early scene from ATWT featuring Fulton as Lisa, and the 2004 Daytime Emmy Lifetime Achievement Award presentation.

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ATWT Alum Tala Ashe Scores Tony Award Nomination; OLTL Alum Jonathan Groff and ‘Glee’ Favorite Darren Criss Also Receive Nods

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Nominations for the 78th annual Tony Awards were announced Thursday morning honoring the best in the recent Broadway season.

The awards will be presented on June 8th live from Radio City Music Hall live on CBS and streaming on Paramount+ with Wicked star Cynthia Erivo, a Tony winner for The Color Purple, hosting the show.

While musicals Buena Vista Social Club, Maybe Happy Ending and Death Becomes Her topped the nominations with 10 each, the list of Hollywood names and former soap opera alums who will be part of Broadway’s bigges makes it interesting drama for Broadway’s biggest nights.

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In addition, there were big time snubs including: Denzel Washington, Jake Gyllenhaal and Kieran Culkin, who failed to make the nominations list, while other big names including: George Clooney are in the running.

Soap fans should take note that Tala Ashe (ex-Ameera Ali-Aziz, As the World Turns – 2007) scored her first-ever Tony nomination in the Best Featured Actress in a play category for her performance in English. The play takes place in an Iranian classroom where four adult students and their teacher leapfrog through a linguistic playground, this is a funny, stunning triumph about the universal foibles of language and miscommunication.

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On As the World Turns, Ashe’s Ameera became involved with Luke and Noah, after she fled Iraq when her mother died, after her protector, Noah’s father, the Colonel, was reassigned and imprisoned. Once in Oakdale, when he heard her sad story, Noah (Jake Silbermann) agreed to a marriage of convenience, upsetting then boyfriend Luke Snyder (Van Hansis).

Once again, Tony Award winner, Jonathan Groff (ex-Henry Mackler, One Life to Live -2007) had scored another nomination. This year for his star turn as Bobby Darin in the new musical, Just in Time. Groff is competing in the category alongside former Glee star, Darren Criss, who is nominated for his work as a retired robot in Maybe Happy Ending.

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Interestingly enough, Jeb Brown who is nominated in the Best Performance by a Featured Actor in a Musical for Dead Outlaw, was formerly the bandmate of Beyond the Gates and General Hospital star, Jon Lindstrom.

Audra McDonald made Tony history scoring her record-setting 11th overall nomination, this year for her starring role in the musical revival of Gypsy. However, she will face-off with former Pussycat Dolls singer, Nicole Scherzinger, who plays Norma Desmond in the latest adaption of Sunset Boulevard, where she is getting all the raves this Broadway season.

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You can check out the full 78th annual Tony Award nominations here.

So, remember Tala from ATWT as Ameera? Jonathan from OLTL as Henry? Who do you think should take home a Tony Award next month in the Big Apple? Comment below.

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