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ATWT story wrap-ups: Tragic yet, heroic twist for LuRE & Carjack to re-wed!
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This morning Michael Logan of TV Guide Magazine has the exclusive details from As the World Turns executive producer Chris Goutman on how the final storylines and your favorite Oakdale couples will wrap-up, after the shows 54-year run on September 17th. According to TVG. ” Look for lots of love and happy endings including two big weddings, some major romantic reconciliations and a final episode — featuring pretty much the entire cast — that’s all about new beginnings.”
Since portions of the interview below contain some spoiler story content from TVG, if you do not want to know, we suggest not reading any further. If you do please continue on…
Goutman revealed, “In the wedding department, Barbara and Henry will finally make it to the altar, and Carly and Jack will also wed. I think it’s imperative we bring (Carly and Jack) those two together even though they have never been able to get it right. We’ve watched them go through so much, often to the point of viewer frustration. But odds be damned and differences be damned, these two belong together.”
But according to TVG , “Prepare for a tragic, yet heroic, twist to the Luke-Reid romance — one that’ll set the stage for a potential rapprochement for Luke and Noah.” Chris Goutman added, “Without giving too much away, I do think Luke and Noah will always have a deep and abiding relationship. Reid came along and challenged that love and his presence made Luke and Noah grow up. Their relationship will endure.” That said, Goutman also revealed if the show hadn’t been cancelled Luke and Reid could have been a couple for the ages! “Their connection was immediate and they are dynamic together. Soon after Reid’s arrival, we had a lot of diehard Luke and Noah fans suddenly rooting for Luke and Reid. It was the best of what soap opera can be.”
Now what of Holden and Lily? Goutman reveala: “We made the choice not to marry them at the end of the show but we will leave them in a place where we know they will always be intertwined. Holden and Lily are no longer the kids in the hayloft like they were in the ’80s. These characters must move beyond that and evolve. They must grow up if they are to be with each other for the rest of their lives.”
In regards to the difficulties in trying to tie-up all the loose end of legacy soap, Goutman stated: “We’re trying to bring a 54-year-old show to a satisfactory and emotional wrap-up and to call it difficult would be the understatement of the century. The loss of this show is tremendous — not just to those of us who make it and for the fans who love it, but for the entire daytime drama industry. Right to the end we will put out the message that life goes on. Long after ATWT is off the air, we want our characters to still be living their lives in the imaginations of the viewers.”
Make sure to read the entire TVG item for a preview on how all the rest of your ATWT stories may wrap-up!
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We’re still losing so many beloved soap opera actors as 2022 comes to a close. Now comes word that former As the World Turns alum, Rita Walter (nee McLaughlin) passed away at the age of 71. Walter had been diagnosed with Multifocal Glioblastoma, an extremely aggressive form of terminal brain cancer.
Rita had an 11-year-run as Oakdale’s Carol Deming Hughes Stallings Andropoulos Frazier.
The former actress-turned-optician, died on Christmas. Rita’s brother, David McLaughlin revealed the news on the 26th which also happened to be the anniversary of Walter’s exit from the defunct CBS soap opera in 1981.
In his posting on Facebook, McLaughlin shared: “My sweet, loving sister Rita was called to Jesus today on Christmas day, his birthday. She was a well known actress as well as dedicated server of the Lord Jesus. May you rest in peace Sis, I love you forever. You’ve taken my heart with you.”
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Before playing good girl, Carol Deming, who always found herself in distress as only a good heroine could do, Rita started her career as Patty Duke’s double on The Patty Duke Show, before getting her first foray into soaps with a role on The Secret Storm as Wendy Phillips.
We clearly remember when on ATWT, Carol was married to Jay Stallings, but Jay was having an affair behind her back. Carol also had failed relationships and marriages to Tom Hughes and Steve Andropolous. Eventually, Carol left Oakdale after falling in love and marrying Reverend Norman Frazier. In a case of life imitating art, Rita married Reverend Normal Walter in 1976.
Walter is survived by her three children, Brian, Jill, and Amy, and her husband, Reverend Norman.
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“Their relationship will endure.”
That it will! NUKE FOREVER!
Personally, I have nothing against the Reid character. However, the whole LuRe s/l, I really could not buy as plausible given the circumstances that led to their relationship, which makes me still incomprehensible how fans have been so willing to support this after only a few short months. But, I digress. We know what’s gonna happen, it won’t be an ending many will be happy with, but it’s done. With that said, Nuke is endgame and will be for years and years after the show is off the air. And for that, I will remember and continue to smile.
No offense but like the NUKE s/l was so much more believable. The whole colonel, ameera and brian fiasco was not even remotely believable and believing that two gay men in their early twenties didn’t have sex for two years. please. Fans supported because the chemistry between ESS and VH. I don’t belive for one second that if the had bad chemistry like Jake and Forbes that people would have switched over so quickly. Like i said hollow victory.
As Lee said below this is only a hollow victory made by the fact that Reid dies and also for me highly implausible, but hey what do I want logic? This is a soap. Endgame is important but it must not feel false and under these circumstance it so is. I used to be a Nuke fan myself but they became such a toxic trainwreck of a relationship that they were more of a pain then joy to watch. And there came in Reid Oliver. Sassy, sexy incredibly smart, self confident enough not to do this whole crappy ‘I’m pushing… Read more »
I think tptb has given Nuke so little because the Nuke has accepted the little crumbs they’ve given them along the way. You really, really think this ending is some kind of endgame victory for Nuke. If you have to kill off the competition to be together not now, but maybe in the future you’re simply accepting that it’s OK for Noah to be the default choice for Luke. Noah hasn’t been onscreen for 2 months, that’s how much the show believes in their ‘love.’ This just seems like the cowardly way out for Goutman. He admits that Luke &… Read more »
It’s only NUKE forever because Reid dies. Is that really NUKE finally winning. To be honest if I were a NUKE fan I would get pissed because the only reason Luke is getting back together with Noah is only because Reid is dead. Noah essential becomes rebound. By CG words Reid/Luke would have become a couple for the ages. Seems like a hollow victory. Very disappointed in ATWT.
agreed.
couldn’t agree more. CG- way to offend all of the fans btw.
Sure. By killing off a great character, by robbing Luke of a great evolutionary relationship in order to push him back into the kiddy-pool of angsty drama filled toxic romance. Yep, let’s have it forever.-_-“
NUKE NUKE NUKE FOREVER !!!!!!!
So, apparently every heterosexual couple gets a happily ever after, but Luke and Reid get screwed. Thanks for nothing, ATWT.
And thank you, Michael, for letting us know. Now I know not to bother wasting my time on this garbage for the next six weeks.
Well I will watch cause I have great respect for Eric Sheffer Stevens and Van Hansis, but as for the ATWT they just dug they’re grave deeper with me.
Not looking forward to either of the weddings… I so wish neither couples were getting hitched.
I don’t see any dynamic to LuRe at all, unless they are fighting. Absolutely nothing romantic about the couple at all, IMO. Even the show hasn’t done anything about it.
At this point, I just can’t wait for ATWT to go off the air. The entire show is a huge train wreck, IMO and I’ll avoid any show that CG is involved with in the future.
I’ll agree with the trainwreck part & the avoidance of future CG shows but disagree about the dynamic of Luke & Reid. I see it, as well as many other fans. Maybe you haven’t been watching but they haven’t been fighting in any of their August scenes, and they’ve still got the great chemistry going. In fact, the only people I see that defend the Noah & Luke pairings are the fans of Jake or Nuke fans. I’ve seen many comments from fans of the show but indifferent to who Luke chooses still take the time to remark upon the… Read more »
I’ve been watching. It’s been boring but I’ve been watching. How idiotic is it that a 22 year old has to babysit a 35 year old.
There is no romance in the storyline at all. No Hand holding, touching and or stroking each other and now Luke is talking about Noah as an excuse not to sleep with Reid. Yea, a couple for the ages, LOL.
Even during the kissing ban, Nuke at least gave the impression they were in love but not LuRE.
No point in arguing. You see what you want to see to support your point of view. I’m not a former nuke fan or a fanatic about any particular storyline, I just watched the soap and then stopped watching the soap when it became too crappy and really only came back to watching the soap because I found that Luke & Reid had an interesting love story –something rarely done well on this show. Obviously others see the romance of it the same as I do. I’ve loved the story they’re telling. And if you look, you’ll see that Chris… Read more »
Thank you, Mr. Fairman. Saw the TV Guide article elsewhere and have zipped off a letter to CBS, as if it would mean anything to them. Luke and Reid have really caught my fancy for romantic couple. Funny, I think they could have been a couple for the ages as well. A supercouple that erases the straight couple / gay couple line. I simply adore them and greatly appreciate the chemistry Mr. Sheffer Stevens and Mr. Hansis have. Mr. Hansis has a nice friendly chemistry with Mr. Silberman, but it lacks the feelings of lovers. Why the ATWT writers felt… Read more »
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Nice of the show to give the straight couples happy endings, but to shatter the dreams of Luke, a man who loves deeply and hopefully, and has looked happier than he has looked the last few years with Noah. Perhaps, Van shouldn’t have played his part as being smitten and enthralled with Reid, but he did and I bought it big time.
Seriously, this outcome is ridiculous. If Chris Goutman knows that Reid and Luke are the more dynamic couple, why not give them the ending they deserve? Whether the show is ending or not should not make a difference. It’s nice that the gay characters get the “tragic” ending while everyone else’s ending is described as “happy” and “blissful.” I don’t know what the writers were thinking with this ending. It is bound to make NO ONE happy. And I just have to say that Luke is just as deserving of a happy ending as Katie. He has endured a lot… Read more »
Luke & Noah the true love forever !
Van Hansis & Jake Silbermann are beautiful and perfect together.
Noah was always first choice of Luke and the love of his life.
The writers did not know who is developing the story the couple most beautiful ,romantic and innovative television.
What we`re seeing now is a bad joke and the worst story in all this time of ATWT.
Imagine, Luke teaching a man of 40 years (doctor) not to be nasty and rude to people.
This is what you fans think we should see Reid ?
We want to continue to see the love and chemistry between to wonderful men who charms us for over tree years and not this crap we`re seeing.
T
It’s truly human and fascinating to see how different people perceive Luke and Reid’s relationship. I see a good man taming a wild beast, someone who may have not had someone love him for him and not his special skills (ie playing chess as a child like a trained seal until he stood up to his parents). I’m so happy I see the love story, because, to me, it’s fresh and and charming and equal. A joy to watch. Even though I despise that gay couples are treated differently on TV (regular cable) than straight couples, in this instance it… Read more »
In actuality, ESS is 38 and Van is 29. This is NOT a relationship between a “40” year old and a “22” year old; not even in this soap. ESS looks closer to 32 and Van looks around 26, though that is totally irrelevant in the world of soaps. Look at Henry and Barbara. You’re so enamoured with your NUKE fixation that you can’t see or feel the real chemistry between LuRe and the way the two of them “grew up”, evolved, and matured because of their relationship. CG pulled the rug out from the viewers with his “rationalized” ending… Read more »
“Prepare for a tragic, yet heroic, twist to the Luke-Reid romance” Reid dying isn’t tragic story-wise it’s just tragic writing and a HUGE cop out. Letting Luke make a choice probably involved too much thinking and less *whatever it is these writers were on* so they’re just screwing over both “sides” now by killing off Reid and giving Nuke a sort of half arsed ending that no-one really likes. Really it makes sense, instead of pissing off half of the fanbase you just piss them all off, right? And the whole “Nuke fans were/are rooting for Ruke”-thing bugs me a… Read more »
Ok, this? Is purely ridiculous. And disgustingly cowardish. If that guy really thinks they’re so dynamic and all, why not make justice to this and give them a chance? Also, nice to see everybody else finding their “happy endings”.
How could you mess this up so badly?
Ad. ‘That said, Goutman also revealed if the show hadn’t been cancelled Luke and Reid could have been a couple for the ages! ”Their connection was immediate and they are dynamic together. Soon after Reid’s arrival, we had a lot of diehard Luke and Noah fans suddenly rooting for Luke and Reid. It was the best of what soap opera can be.”’
Tears in my eyes, it is too much painful for me to even imagine the end of Reid…..
“a tragic, yet heroic, twist to the Luke-Reid romance” … this just give me another reason to hate the writers and producer of ATWT. A tragedy involving Reid is such a cop out. And to have Goutman say “if the show hadn’t been cancelled Luke and Reid could have been a couple for the ages! Their connection was immediate and they are dynamic together. Soon after Reid’s arrival, we had a lot of diehard Luke and Noah fans suddenly rooting for Luke and Reid. It was the best of what soap opera can be.” That really upsets me, since it… Read more »
LET’S KILL OFF THE BEST CHARACTER ATWT HAS HAD IN FOREVER!
good plan. and on top of that, lets have all the straight couples have happy endings. oh, and while we are at it, let’s alienate nuke fans as well by only having luke and noah be together at the end because reid dies. nice. thanks so much for putting lure fans through all this drawn out bullshit to only kill it in the end. no wonder this show got canceled.
I can’t believe that CG would go & give out the biggest, most closely guarded secret that they’ve been trying to keep under guard just so callously like he did. Does he not care about the show? Does he not care about the fans & what they want? Does he not read the polls & listen to the callers & how many people want Luke to end up with Reid? Luke & Noah were done years ago, they have no passion & no chemistry. I wouldn’t wish Noah on my worst enemy as a boyfriend. Constantly pushing away someone he… Read more »
So THIS is how we are repaid for falling in love with LuRe AND with Reid Oliver??? THIS is what you are doing to your most loyal fans??? Eric and Van made us love LuRe beyond reason. We thought the writers would give us what we all wanted….a LuRe fairytale ending. Noah and Luke already had the friendship conversation at The Java and THAT was believable. To bring these bland boring characters back together in the end at the expense of Reid’s character is the most cruel twist of fate the writers could pull on us!!!! I am begging them… Read more »
Please open up your eyes, people and see what a big man Dr. Reid Oliver is. Just don’t hurt us, please!
Love Reid forever and hate the writers forever~!
Ditto!! Screw you ATWT writers screw you!! you made us fall in love with LuRe and Reid, you created a HUGE fanbase with this pairing and now our reward is to killing off Reid and give an happy ending to Nuke damn WTF!!!!! i just want to cry, i’m pissed, we don’t deserve this!! Reid is the BEST character on ATWT so far and LuRe forever ♥♥♥ Van and Eric are the BEST
I also find it highly offensive that all of the straight couples on there even the most dysfunctional (lily/holden carjack) get a happily ever after but the ONE gay couple doesn’t. Its just ridiculous on JP and CG part. They really don’t give a crap about the fans.
So all the straight couples get their HEA, but the three gay characters will end the show either a) dead; b) mourning; or c) pining? Way to ruin a great storyline and leave NO ONE happy except those willing to accept a maybe-sorta possible reunion down the road. A reunion that would only happen because Luke’s great love was dead. Yeah, that’s endgame for ya. Seriously, could this show hate its viewers any more?
Ok, let’s kill the current boyfriend of Luke Snyder (for whom he happens to obviously fall deeper and deeper) just to push him by default into the arms of the man who treated him like sh*t so they can make each other miserable ever after. Smooth move. It’s just so ridiculous, I don’t even comment the “if the show hadn’t been cancelled” part. I’m sick and tired of tragic gay love stories. Also, Katie’s boyfriend rescued thanks to the death of her best friend is actually considered as happy ending for her? I struggle so hard to be civil. So… Read more »
er. couple things. a) die-heard Nukies suddenly rooting for LuRe? No. No die-hard Nukies did. You’re NOT a “die-hard” fan if you suddenly switch over. So maybe you were in it just because they were a gay couple, I don’t know. But being a die-hard fan implies loyalty, and jumping ship for the hot new thing is just shallow, IMO, and not “fan”. b) you all are misunderstanding the quote. Or, lack thereof. Chris himself just said what’s in the quotations. So that was Fairman’s addition, an assumption based of what Chris said. If the show was to change into… Read more »
Hey Tanya: Thanks fo your great and indepth thoughts and comments, but I wanted to clarify, the quote I posted was directly from Michael Logan at TV Guide Magazine in his article. I am not injecting any of my thoughts or take on it in this case, just reporting back the article itself. I wish this never actually came out on TVG. I think it would have better to let us all ride it out till the bitter end. But, I had to make the decision to post it or not, and I knew it was already out there on… Read more »
Oh, my bad! I apologize, I realized that after I had posted. Anyway, thanks for reply and I’m sorry if I came off bad. But I do think we all are doing our own injecting, definitely. Like my comment on how I think bringing Noah back is reason enough to believe that Nuke are meant to be together. I definitely don’t have any factual proof to that, but just on what has been said. Despite my own problems with the storyline regarding the lack of Noah and (again, in my opinion) lack of respect towards the Nuke couple and fanbase,… Read more »
Michael will interview you my beloved Jake Silbermann ?
I so love Nuke (Luke & Noah).
Dear Michael, Thank you for the clarification and for the insight into how you are reporting this story. I am (for now) choosing to stick my head in the sand and to ride it out. I feel like CG/ML ruined pretty much all the storylines for me with this interview, given the way the his responses are phrased – I’m not sure I can understand WTH his motivations for saying all this are. However, as a LuRe optimist, I NEED to point this out: while he talks about how other couples WILL or WILL NOT be married, or how they… Read more »
Michael- When will irt be posted? btw loved your interview with ES, it was one of the best that I’ve seen with him…
I am sorry but i am having a issue with you telling someone that can’t be a die hard fan of NUKE because they like LURE. A person could have definitely been a die hard fan of NUKE but became frustrated and bored with the stories that the writers were giving the couple. Good for you that you stayed but other people just didn’t want to continue to see such bad writing. You can’t tell a person that they have no loyalty because of that. I really don’t like when people get judged like that. Its about story arc. When… Read more »
Yeah, sorry, comparing the logic to Palin is like the comment one Lurid made calling Nukies like Hitler. It’s a backless comment trying to corner one into not being able to debate back, and it holds no logic. Isn’t a fan, by defintion, one who loves whatever they’re a fan of? So while you may have been a fan, I think saying “diehard” cannot be applied to ship jumpers. It just can’t. I’m sorry if you find this insulting, but the fact is obviously that love of a pair was not strong enough to endure some new point. You like… Read more »
I’m sorry, but you said a lot of things that don’t make any sense. How is a relationship with Reid hollow? If you’ve been watching the show at all the past few months, it’s obvious that the love that Luke and Reid have has been painted as just that–love. I don’t disagree with your pairing, but it’s not really right to make it seem like the relationship between Luke and Reid is less. It’s just different. And if that relationship has forced both Luke and Noah to grow up, aren’t they the better for it? I don’t know anyone who… Read more »
Hmmm, I apologize, but I don’t think I said that. If I did, I meant I find it shallow. I was saying I don’t think the NUKE ending is hollow, not that the relationship between Luke and Reid are. I also disagree that it’s a love story, but I don’t think any amount of date we do can change either of our minds. I also have to disagree with you sentiment that the relationship isn’t about change, because that’s all I’ve seen. Look, I’d appreciate if you’d be more respectful to my post, but I’ll try to respond even though… Read more »
I gree with you Tanya.
Luke & Noah are more deserving to stay together.
NUKE is LOVE.
a) I’m not going to get into yet another argument about what constitutes being a ‘fan’ and who deserves that label over another. It’s vaguely reminiscent of Sarah Palin and her definition of “real Americans”. It’s tired and it excludes a certain group of people just because they dared to *gasp* change their minds and like something else. That argument is so reductive and simplistic, imo. b) What quote is being misinterpreted. What I find more telling is the fact that this is supposed to be a triangle yet Noah has been MIA for 7 weeks and about 2 or… Read more »
I responded partially to you in an above comment. But the passive agressive nature of this post and avoidance of my point doesn’t quite make me want to respond. I will just say that a bias means the voice of the journalist’s preferred pairing overrules and stands out in a certain article. It is very hard to find any unbiased article nowadays unless you’re reading a scientific research paper, so I’ll leave it at that. (however, I do find it funny that people get upset when we call bias when they try to discredit actors such as Jon Hensley, Jake,… Read more »
Well seeing as you didn’t respond to anything I said, I at least appreciate your response saying you don’t want to respond.
I mean that with absolutely no sarcasm or passive-aggressiveness (nor was I being passive-aggressive in my previous post, for the record).
What you’re suggesting about Luke and Reid is unforgivable. Giving gay characters a tragic ending went out with pulp fiction novels of the 50s. Why is that the straight characters get what they want while the gay characters must endure grief and uncertainty? I won’t be watching the rest of the episodes.
ATWT had such an oppurtunity to show a real gay couple, and they blew it. Noah had such angsty potential with psycho-dad, and they threw it away. Even Van doesn’t like that Luke has no direction in his life. He spends his time coaching Reid and meddling in everyone else’s life. Luke/Reid fans, make no mistake: the producers would have blown this, too, whether the show was cancelled or not. We curse the writers, but Nuke fans have learned of scenes that were written much more realistically than what we ever got to see. So curse whoever was too damned… Read more »
ATWT had the GOLDEN COUPLE in NUKE…the surprise hit of the show…the pair viewers tuned into see…the pair CBS wanted to see featured more — individually and together. CG and the writers and P&G apparently couldn’t deal with NUKE’s winning combination and potential. CG talked about having “a lot of diehard Luke and Noah fans suddenly rooting for Luke and Reid.” I suggest CG check his stats again because “a lot (more) Nuke fans … never climbed aboard that wagon. It’s a shame…CG and company failed to HEAR them or other interested parties. . .a damn shame.
I stopped watching the show when Luke got involved with Noah. He was, sadly, unwatchable.
Uh, in what universe were they the golden couple? Certainly not this one!
(Believe me, a lot of Nuke fans jumped. Present and accounted for!)
I loved Luke and Noah at first, but the minute Reid appeared on the scene as a love interest, I jumped ship, too. The writers had already turned Noah into a whining, too-angsty character who couldn’t decide what he wanted. That was a disservice to the character and to the actor who played him. When I started to dread seeing Noah, then the whole relationship was over for me.
Just because some fans jumped doesn’t mean LuRe are more of a powerful couple. I think the fact that there’s still a strong support for Nuke fans shows even more. Let’s not forget that Nuke were just as popular, if not more, than LuRe is now at their peak of newness, as LuRe is. Time was what had fans jump, and so we will never get that time for Luke/Reid, I don’t think anything people say will convince me that they wouldn’t suffer the same fate.
Van heard them, sj. And he has said so in more than one interview.
Once the source of this so-called expose had given it to to TVGuide, it became public domain. So all of us fans will love it or hate it. But, what if this ends up being just a teaser to attract an audience.I’m highly suspicious. No matter what the end game is, we will never be happy fans. I’m just sorry that another soap is biting the dust. It could just be inevitable. Pleas let it stop there.I am invested in many characters on many soaps, not only because of the story, but because they are just fabulous actors. They draw… Read more »
Why should Reid end up with Luke? That doesn’t make sense. A nuke endgame is inevitable. LuRe has only been on for a few months, while Nuke 3 years. A REAL “supercouple” has to go through a lot of obstacles, like what Luke and Noah have gone through in the past such as kidnapping, rape, etc. Reid is such a completely new character, that’s why he has no flaws. If he were given more time, you’d eventually see that there is something wrong with him too. Already we can tell that he is in fact a jealous person; hates it… Read more »
“A real Nuke fan is LOYAL and smart.”
I never know what to make of comments like these. A real Nuke fan is smart? As opposed to the non-Nuke fans who are not smart? You do realize you are insulting the intelligence of real people you’ve never met for liking a different fictional character than you, right? Sheesh.
And I won’t even get into your other justifications for Nuke to stay together…because really what is the point?
Agree.
We loyal fans never abandoned Noah.
We love Noah more and more forever.
NUKE ALWAYS.
What does loyalty have to do with it? Of course you love Noah more, you’re a Noah fan. Just because some Nuke fans became Reid fans doesn’t make them less.
Yes, this! I know fans hate having their loyalty questioned, but where is loyalty in jumping ship? It just isn’t. Also, thank you for the point that of course he has no flaws after a few months, because yes! I tend to think about Reid and new characters like a president’s honeymoon period. Basically meaning for the first half a year to a year after he’s in office, approval rating is high and people are more willing for leeway and faults or lack thereof because it is so new. Like Reid and the LuRe couple. Nuke had a lot more… Read more »
Some of the reasons you stated on why NUKE should be endgame can be easily be explained. (Let me use my Palin logic to to answer. Which I assume you were using as an insult to me. That was nasty and rude.) First the MILLIONS of hits that the first nuke kiss had nothing to do with fan support and more to do being the first gay kiss on US daytime. The same thing goes for the EW cover. They were only gay couple on daytime in the US so yeah they were getting attention. The only reason that LURE… Read more »
I always find it interesting that Nukies are convinced that if ATWT hadn’t been cancelled that LuRe would’ve gone to hell and become stagnant like the Nuke relationship. I think the major reason Nuke faltered is because ATWT cares about Luke because he’s legacy but could care less about Noah. They never invested any time into his character and never cared to show his views on anything(They never even put Jake on contract, one half of their iconic couple!). Consequently, some fans came to care less about Noah and more about Luke in the relationship. So it was easy for… Read more »
It’s inevitable? Why? Noah hasn’t been on screen for over two months, and when he was with Luke their relationship was very toxic. Why would any fan of Luke’s want him to go back to the way that Noah treated him. Both characters needed to grow up, and deal with their issues. It doesn’t seem like the writers have any intention of addressing all of the couples problems, or even writing a storyline for them, so why is their reunion inevitable? Based on the article, it sounds like they don’t even reunite at the end, but I’m sure that won’t… Read more »
what kind of producer would end the show in 51/2 weeks after all this show have been on air for 54 years and yet haven’t gave a good reason to cancel viewer included my self have watch ATWT everyday to understand what will happen the next day makes it interested.
IF Reid dies, Luke is left unhappy and Noah’s LA career plan is stifled, I would hope that the soap press would go after CG, JP, CBS and P&G for the backwards ending given to it’s gay characters. It would seem that every hetero character has a happily ever after EXCEPT it’s core gay character and his two partners. It boggles the mind that tptb would think it was a great idea to rain tragedy on it’s gay characters as if we were back in a time when gay characters were all expected to die and suffer for their gayness.… Read more »
As a lesbian, I also feel devastated. I thought I’d gotten use to tragic endings for gays, but apparently not. Yet another one to add to the list. What a fucking joke.
As a lesbian, I also feel devastated by this. We get tragedy for the gay characters, but happiness for the straight ones. How could tptb possibly think that this could acceptable to the GLBT community, or fans of Van, Jake and Eric?
Luke & Noah is the true love and have to finish the show together and happy.
Nuke deserves happines because it went through many obstacles to be together.
For me Reid was alive and would return to Dallas.
Luke finally understand that Noah is her soulmate and the love of his life as he always said.
For me this would be the perfect ending.
Luke & Noah will always be the super couple of ATWT.
seriously, i dont buy you believe what your saying!
I am beyond disgusted by ATWT’s decision to kill off Reid Oliver and return Luke to the dysfunctional, asexual relationship with his “brother,” Noah. Reid brought LIFE to ATWT. In the midst of horrendous writing and acting that had gone stale, he brought an incredible electricity. WIth him as a scene partner, Van Hansis raised his game. Any message here–to kill off the most unapologetic gay character on daytime? They reunite Noah and Luke to placate a diminishing but vocal fan base by killing off their best creation, someone who has brought new viewers to a dying show. So every… Read more »
We certainly can. I’m going to see where Goutman goes next, just so I can avoid him.
well he’s managed to be at the helm of two axed soaps…Another World and now ATWT….when they met their demise…Wonder who’s next?
Maybe the idiotic CG can work on OLTL, they already got rid of their gay couple so his job will be half-way done!
Thanks Michael for the news. Yes, many Nuke fans knew about this “rumour” already. I didn’t want to believe it at first, because it was just too ludicrous from jump street. Kill off a character that was given such screentime and devotion in contrast to the other characters (like Noah) have needed some devotion and story to make up for their neglect of them? Too idiotic. However, this is ATWT, history of running new characters into the ground at the expense of established characters. So, no… it’s par for the course. I so wanted MORE Noah/Nuke in these last days.… Read more »
Even though I knew this was coming, having it confirmed makes me sick. Why is the gay character the only one not to get a happy ending? Katie is more deserving than Luke? So, so insulting.
What an awful ending. No romance for the Noah fans, and pure misery for the Reid fans.
The worst thing is that I have to watch it all because Van and Eric have me hooked. Bah!
Definitely. I would really like to stop watching, but I know I can’t. Eric, especially, has hooked me completely. I’m just bitter that I started watching this show a few months specifically because everyone was raving about Reid, and then this death thing happens. It’s such a disgusting end to such a wonderful, unapologetic character.
However, I now think we’ll get either an i love you, or a sex scene before the death. Gotta got the fans fully invested in the Luke/Reid pairing for maximum impact.
So, everybody will get a happy ending, except the gay characters. How 1950’s of Goutman and Passanante. It wouldn’t have taken too much creativity or courage to put Luke into a happy and healthy relationship, or tell the story of a real same sex triangle. But, it’s not surprising that Goutman and company chickened out, or that they would take the melodramatic way out. They’ve always been in the business of trying to pander to both the bigots and viewers who have been loyal to the show, even though those in charge haven’t done anything to warrent that loyalty.
This is a joke. I used to be nuke fan but i stopped watching at z S/L then out of boredom i watched it again and boom here comes Mr. Hot Doctor himself i got hooked. Now they kill him off coz katie has to have a happy ending, Jeez even Lucinda herself gets back her man i mean what was so hard to give the lure fans atleast a happy ending. CG ruined everything and above all he tells the whole world even before the show ends whats up with that? feel very bad for those who are gay… Read more »
This isn’t specifically directed at you, tess, but I keep seeing comments about how ESS “promised LuRe fans they’d like the ending.” Now, I’ve read or listened to pretty much all of his interviews, and this one in particular seems to be referring to the blogtalk radio one. I distinctly remember him saying that he can’t speak for other people, but that HE personally liked it. People, please let’s not turn the actor into a lying, insensitive monster because he has different criteria for what he wanted out of the role. I have a feeling that there will be a… Read more »
I don’t think eric sheffer stevens is lying or insensitive I just thought he’d said something about fans liking the ending and, that he was happy with it. When I read that Dr.Oliver really is supposed to die,I’m not happy and, I couldn’t understand an actor being happy to be killed off that’s all.
I can easily understand it. None of these characters are coming back, so why not go out with a meaty death scene, instead of just fading away or dealing with some of the other disgraceful endings several fan favorites have already been given. I don’t know of a single actor that wouldn’t want a story arc with lots of growth followed by an emotional deathbed scene (I hope we at least get that!). As fans, we don’t want Reid to die, but from an acting perspective, you can’t beat that kind of emotional impact on the audience. Or impact on… Read more »
Thank you for stating this. It really needed to be said…
well i never meant to say ESS lied or something but it was just too hard to take in the news at that moment. Now its all sank in and since there is nothing anyone can do about it i think we just have to enjoy the last great moment Lure has for us. I wish Eric and Van all the best.
Dear Mr. Fairman: By now you are aware of how devastating the CG article has been to Lure fans. We are trying to stay positive and are so mystified as to why someone would reveal so many details with a month of show to go. It was a real slap in the face to the viewers and shows how little the PTB at ATWT care about the fans. We are hoping you can shed further clarification on some of the points discussed in the TV guide article when you have the opportunity to interview another actor from ATWT. I know… Read more »
can’t wait to see what happens with dusty and janet i love them together
Thanks Michael for the news. I am glad you put CG’s interview on your website. One wonders why CG did spoil it for the fans by giving away the end of the s/ls 6 weeks before the last epsiode will air. But then what comes around, goes around. On the other hand the producers of ATWT created Dr.Reid Oliver and they found Eric Sheffer Stevens to portray him. What a great choice!!!!! ESS is such a pleasure to watch. I enjoy and love every minute of Reid Oliver and will do so until the end. It is so much fun… Read more »
Bravo to your take on the Reid character and his fitting end. I love LuRe, too, but Reid’s first love, nay, his “calling” is to save lives. And if this his tragic but heroic end is the result of him continuing to answer his calling then I’m quite happy as Reid fan, and I can’t wait to see what ESS does with the material.
Thank you Chris Goutman for proving Ellen Wheeler isnt the only person capable of DESTROYING a long running soap.
While I am thrilled that Carly and Jack get a happy ending I am very confused as to why Henry and Barbara get the same over Luke?
A love the Henry/Barbara romance but I think them getting hitched so quickly is ridiculous!
Thanks Goutman, you hack.
I’m so angry at the way that ATWT hack writers are ending a great love story and a great soap character… Reid Oliver….ESS and Van brought chemistry and dare I say heart to these characters…I like others can’t understand why LuRe can’t have the happy ending that the heterosexual characters on the show are allowed to have. I was a big supporter of the Luke/Noah relationship, but I even realized that thir relationship turned more into friendship if anything….This reminds me of the mmovies of the not so distant past where the gay character wern’t allowed to have happiness, only… Read more »
This ending is the most devastating possible for ALL Luke fans…Whether you like Jake or not, NO ONE can deny the LuRe chemistry was “off the charts”. These guys connected in a way that is oh so rare and impossible to explain…Every scene they are in holds the viewers mesmerized. They scream “soulmates”. Luke and Noah ONLY appeal as friends and they had settled on that (last conversation at Java). THAT was believable. WE have waited..and waited…and waited for LuRe to be together. Now, THIS is what we have to look forwart t I realize that this story’s ending was… Read more »
I agree with you completely, the writers especially CG have complete disregard for the fan of LuRe and to amke the idiotic statement that CG made about LuRe staying together had the show not been cancel because of their chemistry is a complete slap in the face…I don’t know what drugs CG ingested before he did the interview with TV Guide but he’s completely dillusional.
The love and chemistry has always existed and will exist between Luke & Noah.
The writers realized that ,only it did rigth ,because Reid should go back to Dallas and NUKE were they never should have left the arms of one another,because they always belonged.
Mr Goutman…round of bitter applause to give away the finale like it were pure crap!!! & last but not least, thank-you very much for the worse treatment in history of a soap-couple for LuRe (but in our hearts they’ve already won by far their game, they’ve been the real stars of the show & you didn’t appreciate that…Another reason more for the right cancellation!!) Oh well, we’ve been royally screwed off, but like they say “what goes around comes around!” :-(( EDIT_Overall, big hug to all the fans & KUDOS TO VAN & ERIC’S AMAZING JOB, WE’VE REALLY APPRECIATED &… Read more »
Why in the world would Chris Goutman do this to us. My daughter is the fourth generation in my family to watch ATWT. I watched Luke & Noah for a while, but the way Noah constantly treated Luke turned me away. Lo and behold that very day Jan. 19 , I tuned in and saw ESS having a phone conversation with Luke. I had never seen a soap charater come across on screen like that. I was hooked right then and there and have been faithfully watching ever sence. I have relatives who are gay and they all say that… Read more »
i don’t understand why or where this the fans “deserve” for certain couples to be together when the show goes off comes from. Lure fans won’t like an ending where luke and reid aren’t going to end up being together. John Dixon isn’t going to end up being cheif of staff is he? I was loookig forward to watching the future of memorial with chris hughes and reid oliver being like a younger bob hughes and john dixon. Why do we have to lose the doctor as well as the show? Eric is happy with his character being killed off?… Read more »
I think any resolution to the Luke/Noah/Reid love triangle was always going to be a tough call to make. The final scenes were filmed in June, right? Which means that the decision on how to wrap it all up had to have been made (at the latest) sometime in April/May. The first kiss between Luke and Reid had only just aired at the end of April. Having invested in the Luke/Noah story for three years, and NOT having a crystal ball that would allow them to see how popular the Luke/Reid pairing would eventually become, i can understand why the… Read more »
I don’t understand the mentality that went in this type of ending. They managed to have other characters like Molly, simply choose to break up with Holden because she realized he didn’t love her enough. Why the tragic outcome for Reid? If the whole point was to have Luke & Noah grow up (which seems like a stupid waste for a great character like Reid), then have Luke really grow up and make decisions. Don’t have him going to the fall back guy because the other one is dead. And I’m no Noah fan, but if he was going to… Read more »
Why does Reid have to die? Why can’t Reid and Luke have happily ever after? Noah is so self-centred and has treated Luke like dirt for a long time. Reid is loving and honest and has never sought to change Luke. Initially Reid tried to push Luke away to try to save his own heart. I am so sad.
So… long (crappy) story short, nobody wins. Reid dies, so obviously there’s no LuRe endgame. Nuke gets… what is it….? A glimmer of hope for future reunion? I predict it will be rushed and sloppy and poorly written. I’m not really a LuRe fan or a Nuke fan. I’m a Luke fan. I didn’t really care who Luke ended up with, as long as he would end up happy…and apparently that isn’t even going to happen. Did we, the Nuke, LuRe, Reid, Noah, and Luke fans do something to mortally offend the writers? Why do they hate us so goddamn… Read more »
I am really sad that ATWT will be discontinued after 9/17/10. It has always been my favorite show, and since I was a little girl, I watched it with my grandmother. Later after school, I worked for 3 different CBS affiliates. ATWT was the easiest daytime to sell. I still remember the first show when it began. Nancy was in the kitchen when Chris came in, and she said, “Good Morning, Dear”. Good luck CBS – the only show you have now daytime that I will watch is B&B. JM
The idea that Reid will die at the end is such a terrible idea. A lot of us love Reid and love to see Luke and reid end up together. If the writers kill Reid at the end they’ll leave us with such a bad taste in our mouth. Reid and Luke spiced up the story line, they are really hot, with great chemistry, with lots of talent. The thought of you killing Reid turns me off from watching the end of the show.
To C.G. and J.P. apparently you didn’t care about the fans. Both sides are getting royally screwed. If you didn’t want LuRe to be the couple in the end, why not send him back to Texas not kill him. My daughter could have come up with a better ending and she is in the 9th grade. This is just so wrong on all sides. Why didn’t you let Luke make his choice. Eric has been the best part of this show since Jan. 19 of this year. I wish him and the rest of the cast a brighter future. Eric… Read more »
reid deserve happy ending with luke not this way at all reid should be saved luke deserve to be happy with reid and live happly ever after so please save reid so they can be together and get marryed at the end not this way at all
My fav actor is Noelle Beck. The ugly fans critized her terribly when she came on to replace Martha. I thought she and Damien had great chemistry. Hope she ends up somewhere that I can see here work regularly.