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Kassie DePaiva Dishes On: CASTLE's One Life to Live Reunion Episode, Nathan Fillion and Tuc Watkins, Her Daytime Emmy Pre-Nom & Saying Goodbye To DAYS!

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“Cause we only have One Life to Live … but it’s on Castle!”  Sing it!  Daytime soap fans, and those in particular of the beloved citizens of Llanview, are having a reunion of sorts, on a very special Valentine’s Day episode (airing Sunday night, February 14th 10PMET/PT) of the ABC procedural crime drama Castle!  The upcoming episode entitled “Witness for the Prosecution” will feature special guest stars: Kassie DePaiva (Ex-Blair), Tuc Watkins (Ex-David) and Darlene Vogel (Ex-Melanie), who are all involved in the latest murder mystery on the hit series starring Nathan Fillion as Richard Castle (Ex-Joey, OLTL).

On-Air On-Soaps caught up with former One Life to Live favorite, Kassie DePaiva, to get all the scuttlebutt on how it all came together for good friends, Tuc, Nathan, and Kassie to work together again in such a fun capacity … and Kassie teases what to look for from her character of Joanna Mathis, who has some sort of celebrity crush on Castle, that kicks off the reunion episode.

Meanwhile, as Days of our Lives fans know, Tuesday was Kassie’s final episode as Eve Donovan on the NBC daytime drama series.  The actress took to Twitter and shared: “Well… That’s all folks! I had fun! Thanks fans… you made it all worth while.”  Six-months ago, Kassie found out the powers-that-be decision to write-out her character.  But while her time in Salem turned out to be much shorter than she originally anticipated, DePaiva did garner herself a Daytime Emmy Pre-Nomination last month in the Outstanding Lead Actress category for her heavy emotional scenes surrounding Paige’s (True O’Brien) murder.  During our chat, Kassie shares what it meant to her to still be in the running going into the blue-ribbon round of judging, especially since she is no longer with the show, plus she leaves soap fans a very special message.  So, here’s what Kassie had to say about a little slice of Llanview coming to Castle, missing OLTL, and her DAYS finale.

How did this all come to pass that you ended up on this special Valentine’s Day episode of Castle, which reunites you with Tuc Watkins, and Nathan Fillion on-screen?

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KASSIE:  Tuc, and Nathan, and I had dinner the night before I found this out, but my agent had already submitted me for a role on Castle!  Then the next day when I was talking to my agent he said, “I submitted you for a role on Castle.”  I said, “Well that’s funny.  I just had dinner last night with Nathan Fillion, and he’s a very good friend.”  My agent said, “Maybe you should text Nathan and tell him you’re agent submitted you for the role.”  So that is what I did.  Then I did not hear anything from Nathan, but then three days later my agent said I had gotten the role.  I texted Nathan and I said, “I got the role!” And then Nathan said, “And you’re going to be surprised about who your husband is!”  That’s when I found out it was Tuc.  I went, “Oh, my God. That’s great.”  Then I found out about Darlene Vogel, but that was just an amazing random thing that she was also in the episode.  It was wonderful to see her; she is just as beautiful as ever.  It was fun.

So, you and Tuc play a couple?  Ah, if only David Vickers, and Blair Cramer were there! (Laughs)

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KASSIE:  Yes, Tuc is my husband.  I play a fan of Richard Castle named Joanna Mathis, so I am not really acting at all! (Laughs)  It’s me sort of fawning over Nathan’s character, so it’s funny.

How long have you known Nathan?  You all were on One Life together.

KASSIE:  We were trying to figure that out: I think it has been 22 years since we had worked together.  I started first on One Life, then Tuc, and then Nathan, but it was all within a year of each other.  I started in November of 1993.  I think those guys started in 1994.

Do you think that the episode contains four former stars of One Life was just so random?  At some point somebody realized they had a way to pull in more daytime viewers to this episode!

KASSIE:  I don’t think it was a planned One Life to Live casting stunt.  I think the stars kind of aligned.  I think Nathan had a say in Tuc and my casting.  I’m not sure with Darlene, because I had never worked with her before.

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It’s very impressive that given that others in Hollywood have shied away from their soap roots, Nathan Fillion has embraced them.  He’s appreciated and respected the medium that gave him his start.  Through the years he has spoken highly, and of how much he learned from: Erika Slezak (Ex-Viki), Robin Strasser (Ex-Dorian), and Bob Woods (Ex-Bo).

KASSIE:  The day we all worked together on set, Nathan said, “I wouldn’t be here today, if I hadn’t worked with these great guys, and learned so much doing daytime”.  I’m glad that he feels that way, and proud enough to say that, and humble enough to say that.  In daytime, you can learn a lot.  It instills a discipline in you that you can’t find anywhere else. Nathan has a lot of responsibility being a lead in a nighttime series.  I am sure everything that he learned doing a soap has only given him the tools to be as successful as he is now.  It’s nice that he accredits his placement in his success where his roots were.  I think it’s great.

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Did you think when you first knew a young Nathan on OLTL, he would go on to such great mainstream success?

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KASSIE:  You never know that kind of thing, but Nathan opted to leave One Life, and he left at a really great time.  I think Bob Woods (Ex-Bo, OLTL) even told Nathan that this was his time to go, and soaps will always be there.  Nathan is unbelievably quick-witted, and a very, very intelligent guy.  He is really quick on his feet, and he is very special.  Not only is he very handsome, but he can be charming, and he can be the hero, which is nice.  He and Tuc, for as long as I have known them, they are both two of the funniest guys I know.  I just adore being around them.

The three of you must have laughed yourselves silly then while taping this Valentine’s Day episode of Castle!

KASSIE:  Oh yes!  When you see the episode it is funny!  There were takes we were laughing so hard, that we couldn’t get through it.  Nathan sets the tone of the set, and everyone adores him.  He makes everyone feel comfortable.  It was just a really nice, pleasant set to work on.

With the disappointment of being let go from Days of our Lives, it seemed like getting this Castle gig was a nice gem at the right time.

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KASSIE:  You know, if I would have still been on DAYS I wouldn’t be able to shoot Castle.  But, after being over at the DAYS studio the other day, I still would love to still be working on a soap.  I love soap operas.  I wish there were five soap operas in New York that I could audition for, but there are not.  So I’m out in L.A., and since I’m out here I am going to try to land roles on television.  But to answer your question, it was nice to immediately get something after leaving DAYS.

So many soap actors at pilot season, or even when roles that come up that they are right for in motion picture or television, still find themselves at the receiving end of the ‘poor stepchild of entertainment’ stigma attached to being on a soap opera with casting directors, or producers.  Would you agree in your experience?

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KASSIE:  Of course, there is.  The general meetings I’m having with casting people, they have been very complimentary to daytime actors.  But for whatever reason, there is a hump you have to get over.  I do think it’s a matter of them wanting to see what you did last, so as long as you’re working it doesn’t matter.  It’s hard to tell a casting person when it shows up on paper that I have been working almost every single day for the last 25 years!  You know, what I mean? (Laughs).  It’s kind of hard for someone to wrap their head around it.  They will go, “Oh …oh, OK.”   I probably did somewhere between 3500 episodes of One Life to Live.  You think about that, and you realize that is the kind of stuff that is crazy!

The Revolution, Katie and FAB Life have all been cancelled by ABC, or Disney/ABC syndication, or distribution wings of the network.  Nothing that has replaced One Life to Live in its previous time slot has been a success, but instead a mitigated disaster.  In your opinion, and having been a longtime cast member of One Life, do you think anyone looks at it from a network perspective, and says they made a mistake by canning the soap?

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KASSIE:  I have said this to you before: “It blows my mind that within that year ABC Daytime, which was the strongest daytime line-up of all three networks at that time, wiped out so much, and lost so much.”  They lost Oprah, because she decided to end her run, One Life to Live, All My Children were cancelled, and Live with Regis and Kelly changed, because Regis Philbin retired.  So, all of that just changed the face of the day for the network.  The problem with that, from my point of view, is that the loyal fan base was so angry that they boycotted ABC, and they have not come back.  I have gotten letters which have said, “I have not watched anything ABC has put on, but I will watch Castle since you’re on it.”  Those are the kinds of messages I think a network needs to pay attention to.  Maybe it doesn’t matter to them.  They have to have acknowledged that what they have put into place of One Life to Live has failed.  It probably cost more money to put all those failed attempts on than the show they rolled off the network.

So what else can you tease for us to look forward to during your Castle episode, entitled, “Witness for the Prosecution”?

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KASSIE:  I play kind of a socialite, and murder takes place at my home.  I just drove by the home we shot it in over in Hancock Park, and I showed my husband Jimmy (James DePaiva, Ex-Max, OLTL) it.  I shot all my scenes on location, and not on the set.  I said to Jimmy, ‘That’s my house!  It’s a big ole honking mansion!” (Laughs)  It was great.  The episodes of Castle are an hour long, but very cleverly written.  In the first scene you are looking at the murder, but you don’t know who the murderer is.  Everyone is a suspect:  You think it could be me, or Tuc, or this person, or that person.  As the episode develops, Richard Castle figures it out.  The set up is: My character buys Richard Castle at a charity auction to come to do a reading in my home, and while we are there a murder takes place.  Tuc’s character is a cameraman, and Darlene plays a news anchor/reporter.  Everyone is a suspect in the very first scene.

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It must have been heartwarming to see the OLTL fans reactions when you posted on social media that you were filming this Castle episode that reunited with you and Tuc, Nathan, and also that featured Darlene Vogel.  They were very excited!

KASSIE:  I know!  I thought it was just really special, and what blows me away is why can’t we just go back and do One Life to Live again?  Why can’t we just do it?  I know we can’t have all those characters because of legal issues, but hey, Ron Carlivati (former head writer, OLTL and GH) is available.

So on Tuesday, DAYS fans saw your final scenes as Eve!

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KASSIE:  Yes.  Eve wants to take Claire (Olivia Keegan) to New York for the Julliard audition, but Belle (Martha Madison) is not happy about.  I got to share some final scenes with A Martinez (Eduardo) too, and then that’s the last I’m seen.

Have you kept in touch with the cast from DAYS since your departure six months ago?  You received a Lead Actress Daytime Emmy Pre-Nomination for your performance during your time there.  What are you submitting for the final blue-ribbon round of voting?

KASSIE:   First, I have kept in touch with Wally Kurth (Justin), and had lunch the other day with Mary Beth Evans (Kayla).  I also recently had lunch with Kate Mansi (Ex-Abigail) and Missy Reeves (Jennifer).  I met such wonderful people there.  So, it’s all good.  Everyone sent congratulatory Pre-Noms wishes, which was nice.  For the blue-ribbon round I am going with the scenes with A Martinez (Eduardo) after Paige dies, and scenes surrounding Paige’s funeral.

Do you feel that getting a Daytime Emmy Pre-Nom is in any way vindication for you being let go by DAYS?

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KASSIE:   I have no real bitterness about DAYS.  What’s great is that I felt it was a gift to play that part.  I got to finally play the grief-stricken mom, and just go to the dark place, and am lucky I had some really strong material.  It’s now up to somebody’s taste, and what they think is good, and what they prefer, and consider quality acting.  I did the best I could with what I have, but after 30 years of throwing your name in the hat … does it mean something?  Yeah, it means something.  But will it change anything?  No, it won’t.  I mean, if I get a nomination, I was still let go.

Did you participate in the Pre-Nom voting process?  If so, what did you think of the overall performances of your peers that submitted their work in competition this year?

KASSIE:  I did vote in the acting categories, and there were some wonderful performances this year.  I knew about 70 % of the people I was voting on, and some people I was not familiar with their work.  I judged on what I though was the best as far as I was concerned, and when watching some of my friends, I thought to me that wasn’t the best work that I knew they could do, and then there were people that I didn’t know that I would go, “I like that! I thought that was honest, and beautiful work.  I’m going to vote for you.”  I think that is the way people should look at these tapes.

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In closing, what would you want to say to those DAYS fans who loved your performances as Eve, and to those who have supported you throughout your daytime career, and all the twists and turns along the way?

KASSIE:  My “thank you” and my gratitude goes to the overall soap opera fan, and after being on four of these soap operas. (Laughs)  It’s nice to have fans that follow you from soap to soap, and nice to bring new viewers to new soaps that follow you. Then it’s nice just to meet new people along the way.  I think I had an opportunity with doing the two Day of DAYS events, and a couple of other events in Washington D.C. where I had a couple nice one on ones with some really wonderful fans.  I love soap opera fans, and they love storytelling.  I am just glad to be a part of the bigger picture.

So, are you excited to see the One Life to Live reunion on the Valentine’s Day episode of Castle? What did you think about Kassie’s sentiments on Nathan Fillion and Tuc Watkins, and missing Llanview?  Are you rooting for Kassie to land a final spot in the Lead Actress category for the Daytime Emmys, when the nominations are revealed on March 24th? What did you think about her final DAYS scenes as Eve, and her love of the soap medium and its fans?  Post your thoughts in the comment section below!

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Jimh(leave it to beaver)
Jimh(leave it to beaver)

I miss so many soaps…when i was growing up there were so many to watch…i miss just having three networks who always had good quality shows including several soaps in the 60s and 70s and it was all free!…I just wish there was a new drama channel filled with old soaps and new ones…id keep it on all day.

Iakovos
Iakovos

Amen!

Erick
Erick

Boy oh boy… In the late ’80s you had airing new episodes at one time (big breath): All My Children, Another World, As the World Turns, The Bold and the Beautiful, Days of Our Lives, General Hospital, Guiding Light, Loving, One Life to Life, Ryan’s Hope, Santa Barbara, Search for Tomorrow, The Young and the Restless. Count ’em, 13! And that doesn’t include prime-timers Dallas, Dynasty, Falcon Crest, and Knots Landing.

mollie
mollie

I would love that. I think that would be a smart business decision for a company.

vinman
vinman

Miss the days of soap from 11:30am-4:00pm….my line-up…
Love of Life
Where the Heart Is
Search for Tomorrow
WorldTurns..GL..EON…SecretStorm…OMG…the good ol’days!!

Maureen Stephan Hoeler
Maureen Stephan Hoeler

love the reunion, but it would have been better if Erika (Vicki) and Bob (Bo) were in it also maybe as Castle’s Aunt and Uncle.

CeeCee
CeeCee

So, so sweet, my Kassie. I could listen to her forever. I love her almost as much as Michelle Stafford, LOL. Her smile simply opens my heart. Now, all CASTLE needs is another episode starring Roger, Kassie and kristen. My soap world would be almost perfect. Break a leg, you guys!!

Dinah
Dinah

Kassie is the best, great interview Michael

nancy dillingham
nancy dillingham

Great interview, as usual, Michael. And I bow to Nathan Fillion for not being ashamed of having worked on soaps–and for sincerely thanking fellow soap actors from which he learned a lot. And Kassie makes some very salient remarks about working on soaps–and is complimentary of the loyal fans. Good for you, Kassie!

Penny
Penny

Very, Very Excited!

blake
blake

She is such a class act and beautiful spirit, top that off with great acting and it’s no wonder she’s been so successful as an actor for about 30 years. So nice to see her not upset about Days. I hope that she can land another soap or something else.

And it’s great that she got the role on Castle and the pre-nom for Days. I really hope she gets the final nomination, better yet win!!!

Ricardo
Ricardo

Kassie is a classy. sassy lady. I hope she wins the daytime emmy. Kassie will be back in Daytime, sooner than later. GH needs to hire Kassie, in a new role.

mollie
mollie

Agree, she is classy and smart. I wish there were more daytime options for her than GH though!

brian
brian

Gees… I hope someone at ABC reads this. As Kassie states ” and what blows me away is why can’t we just go back and do One Life to Live again? Why can’t we just do it?”

Bravo !

Llanviewer717
Llanviewer717

Thank you for this interview. I can’t wait to see this episode of Castle. I miss our beloved One Life to Live every second of everyday!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dara M
Dara M

Thanks for the lovely interview. Kassie is a class act and an incredible talent. She certainly deserves an Emmy for her masterful turn as Eve during Paige’s death. I’m happy to hear she submitted her work with A. Martinez. Their scenes together were hard to watch because they were so honest in their grief. Just brilliant.

I’ll be watching her on Castle and look forward to her next project. She is way too talented to be sitting on the sidelines.

Iakovos
Iakovos

Love Kassie and need here back on screens in a regular role this year!

mollie
mollie

She did some great work on Day’s after Paige’s murder. Really emotional and real. I would love to see her win the Emmy.

Anna
Anna

DOOL should be ashamed of themselves on how they ended Kassie’s /Eve’s time on the show! That was a HORRIBLE send off for such a wonderful, gifted actress. I’m ashamed to be a fan of the show after today’s episode. Thank you Kassie. You were incredible on the show and it’s sad that it wasn’t noticed.

Dan
Dan

Amen to you Anna, I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU. DAYS ARE PATHETIC, IN FIRING KASSIE. ANNA KASSIE WILL BE BACK SOON, ON ANOTHER SOAP.

Marie
Marie

Maybe I wasn’t paying attention and missed something. Was the character of Eve packing up and moving somewhere? I watched today thinking she was going to be ushered off or kidnapped or hit by a car or something since it was her last episode. I assumed the organization she started in Paige’s honor was going to be in Salem? Was I mistaken? Was it explained that she would be moving somewhere else? It just felt like any other day. Maybe I’m so focused on Chad and Abby and Rafe and Hope that I don’t pay as close attention to some of the other stories happening on the show. I have only been watching the show for about about six months and I guess I’m confused. So far I have only seen the characters get murdered or die of natural causes on their last episodes. Eve’s episode felt more like a fade out like she might be back in fewer episodes. I don’t remember them explaining or accounting for Eve being off canvas permanently. Did I completely miss something?

CeeCee
CeeCee

It doesn’t take long for Hope’s infantile shenanigans to put holes in every storyline and confuse the heck out ot of the viewer, Marie. She has me at a choke-hold, too. What is the purpose of her and Rafe? I am so bored, I just FF through their scenes. Settle this woman down, PTB… And I don’t mean with Rafe or any man. I mean, calm her down….she has been doing the same thing for 30 years. Some guy always ends up stuck to her to continue her half-arsed escapades.
Sorry you started watching amidst another of Hope’s dramas, Marie.

Anna
Anna

No Marie sadly you didn’t miss anything. I guess that was their “send off” for one of Daytime’s best actresses! I’m so upset right now about that episode and how Kassie/Eve was handled that I may stop watching completely. And you can bet I let the powers that be at DOOL know but they obviously don’t care what fans think anyway. Very unfortunate.

Llanviewer717
Llanviewer717

Very well said.

carol
carol

I agree I love Kassie she got a raw deal she was suppose to have had a big role in distroying Jennifer but that never came about,she was going to drive her crazy however I think the new writers put a stop to that.It stinks,Kassie you are a great person and we all love you. and the best to you.Hey maybe she can come back as someone else no such luck.I don’t get why they let one of the best actresses on tv go,what could they have been thinking ?Then again they weren’t thinking.I missed her last show.This is unfair to her.I could think of a few characters that I wouldn’t mind seeing going,like Jenn,darn what is her sons name ya him to.Hopes daughter sorry but she can’t act . Why is Theo,Chase and her even on there? In any case God Bless you Kassie and good luck.

Rj
Rj

I wish Kassie alł the best. She is very talented, and seems so nice and down to earth. In addition to Castle, I hope we see her regularly on other shows!

Patricia Nolan-Hall (Caftan Woman)
Patricia Nolan-Hall (Caftan Woman)

I haven’t watched “Castle” this season, but will make a point of catching that episode.

I’m very disappointed that Kassie and Eve will no longer be a part of DOOL. I am hoping that some wonderful opportunities are coming her way.

PS: There’s a place in my heart where Kassie is still Chelsea. My, how time flies.

Phil
Phil

Days, please bring her back like GH just did with Michael Easton.

Mike
Mike

So, these brilliant new writers are so good that they decide the best way to write off Eve is to … not actually write her off. While she isn’t in the middle of some hot story, she is playing a role IN a story and the writers can’t be bothered to bring it to a conclusion? That’s just all kinds of disrespectful to viewers and the actress – and incredibly lazy on the part of the writers.

Patrick
Patrick

” I am Bitter ”

the quality and intelligence of Kassie DePaiva… will always be Emmy Worthy

I want this to be an in your face, Ken Corday ! an emmy win for Eve character.

you let go the best of the best… she is so professional… so captivating… so endeared by fellow actors and has a huge fan following

tim S
tim S

mmm that was it today??? shame on days.. she deserved a better send off..

Evan
Evan

Kassie is the best actress in Daytime, I will miss seeing her in my screen. Days made a huge mistake in firing her. I hope she wins the Daytime emmy. General hospital need to hire Kassie right away.

Rose
Rose

So looking forward to this episode of Castle with Kassie and Tuck. Wish they could have found a way to have Dorian and Erika on as well. Castle has been one show I break my boycott with ABC to watch because of Nathan and the other roles he’s played since Joey…Mal/Firefly and The Preacher/Buffy. Wonder what happened to Brian Frons and other ABC hachet execs who axed OLTL and AMC? I’m sure the is a rule at ABC to never admit to their mistake in cancelling them. Also what takes so long in cleaning up the Prospect Park thing and free up the cast and characters. I mean we are talking ABC/Disney vs Prospect Park…David and Goliath?

Kyle
Kyle

Kassie is one of if not the best actress in daytime tv. The only reason I started watching #DAYS, is because of Kassie. She was absolutely fantastic on #OLTL. My hope is #GH snaps her back up, for either a new character or a recast of a favorite. I cannot wait for this episode of #Castle. Thank You Kassie for everything you have done for the fans. #KentuckyNative #BBN..

Mo
Mo

That was her last ep, but it didn’t resolve her story. Disappointed in that respect.

OLTL4EVER
OLTL4EVER

Can’t wait to see my OLTL friends together again on Castle. Wish we could see more of the Llanview gang…Kassie absolutely deserves that award for her outstanding acting. Good luck & bring home that Emmy!!!

Jim Preston
Jim Preston

Well, if it is any consolation, in my opinion Days of Our Lives lately is kind of lacking. This storyline between Phillip and Belle is uninteresting and not at all compelling. When Eve (as played by Kassie) was involved with JJ and Paige found out, those scenes were bone chilling. When Paige died, Kassie as Eve did a great job crying over her, it was totally believable.
Now, I don’t know, the show is just draggy. I don’t care about Cierra getting upset over her stepbrother, I don’t care for the younger set on the show.
As for One Life to Live, it should come back….doubtful that it will, but it’s a nice
dream. Good luck to Kassie in whatever she pursues, she’s a strong acting talent.

Anna
Anna

Jim I agree that Days is lacking. They’ve brought on all these new actors (and still hiring new ones) instead of keeping a wonderful character like Eve portrayed by one of the best actresses to ever be on daytime. I could care less about Phillip, Belle, Shaun D, Ciera or her friends, etc. I’m not sure what they will be able to do to turn it around. Even characters like Kayla and Patch have been uninteresting and Jennifer is such a bore (but she’s always been). Not sure why they keep Jennifer and especially Melissa Reeves around. Melissa is one of the worst actresses ever. She always has the same look on her face no matter what she’s doing! And don’t even get me started on the fashion line storyline!!! SNOOZE

Tim Welles
Tim Welles

I guess every storyline doesn’t appeal to every viewer, that I think is a reasonable assumption.
HOWEVER right now the show really IS lacking – I love Abigail, but the actress playing her currently is leaving so I don’t know what the dynamic will be with Chad now – and there really isn’t anything “happening” on the show to me personally that I find that enthralling.
Crazy Ben with Abby and Chad – that was fine, but that’s over. Kassie as Eve, well that was fine but that’s over – I admit I originally watched the show for Will and Sonny, and that’s over. I don’t find Belle and Phillip together to be that interesting a couple, I’m not sure why I don’t but I just don’t.
So, hopefully the writers will start turning things around soon – everything seems to be at a real standstill right now.

Patrick
Patrick

DAYS; Ken Corday; needs to take a lesson and cue from GH

right a wrong; rehire back Kassie DePaiva… and / or, if it’s a whole new character

just like GH has done with Michael Easton

very doable

as Kasse DePaiva is the mot relatable talent out their…

4ever DAYS
4ever DAYS

I understand how you feel, Patrick, but Corday and DAYS has their hands full with all the returns, including Freddie Smith and the possible return if Chandler Massey.

The previous writing regime hurt Kassie/Eve, but the newest writers managed to give her something worthy, but then Dena Higley gained more writing control before being banished. So, now with Beth Milstein in her place, she and Josh Griffith might bring Kassie/Eve back.

4ever DAYS
4ever DAYS

*of

nancy dillingham
nancy dillingham

Didn’t know that Dena Higley had been “banished”–interesting. Beth Milstein, you say? Hope she keeps up the innovative work that is happening at Days.

mike
mike

She would be perfect in a Y&R triangle with Jack and Phyllis.

Ghlover
Ghlover

Go to Gh as the Jenny Eckert and go against Paul! And Tracy!! Ohh my! Incan’t be the only one who would love that?!! GH brought back OlTL actors in different roles, they can do it for Kassie. Jenny would fit her to a T! Fingers crossed!

LeRoy Davidson
LeRoy Davidson

Can’t wait to see the “Castle” episode. I have followed Kassie since “Guiding Light” and besides being such a fine actress, I think she has the sweetest singing voice since Karen Carpenter and Ella Fitzgerald.

boes
boes

Love her, always did always will. I’ll watch anything she does.

Cassie Hicks
Cassie Hicks

While I am thrilled that Kassie DePaiva had gotten herself a Daytime Emmy pre-nomination this year, and may not care when she’s gotten the part on the primetime sudser, “Castle”, but her compliments for her former “One Live To Live” castmates had been very spot-on, I wish that Eve had gotten a chance to tell Justin that she’s really leaving Salem, by saying good-bye to him, before she took Claire to Julliard to follow her dreams. Also, I appreciate Mrs. DePaiva’s deference to the soap opera industry, because it has been nothing but kind to her, and I hope she gets a real Daytime Emmy nomination, come next month, because I love the way that Eve handled her grief, when Paige was murdered by Ben.

Kristen Howe
Kristen Howe

I think Kassie has gotten it right. It’s been a long uphill battle to save our soaps and we’re not going to give up. I watched Kassie as Eve from start to finish and loved her scenes. I’m so glad she got than pre-nom for a Dayitme Emmy. It’s well deserved. I wish ABCD will get the big picture, solve the court room battle with Prospect Park, and bring our soaps back. Good news that DOOL got renewed for another year!

Ellen Wycuff
Ellen Wycuff

I agree with Kassie. ABC did make a huge mistake by canceling AMC and OLTL. I am still boycotting their network after all this time. I wish they would bring them back to correct their mistakes

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Carol b

I am a long time fan of OLTL, and I am one of the fans Kassie was discussing when she said we have not come back to ABC. There are only three shows I will watch, GH, Castle and Jeopardy. They have lost a huge number of watchers with their stupidity, and they won’t get them back. I’ve also been boycotting anything Disney from the day they killed my favorite show.

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DAYS Promo: What’s Going To Happen At Jarlena’s Wedding Anniversary Shindig?

Coming up next week on Days of our Lives, prepare for drama, drama, and more drama! From the looks of the latest promo for the NBC soap opera, the action takes place at Marlena (Deidre Hall) and John’s (Drake Hogestyn) surprise one-year wedding anniversary soirée, where things could take a deadly turn!

But with the Kristen (Stacy Haiduk) masquerading as “Nicole” plot reaching new heights, Anna DiMera (Leann Hunley) and Tony DiMera (Thaao Penghlis) back in Salem, and the promo telling viewers “For one guest, the party, is over” followed by Sonny (Freddie Smith) yelling, “She’s got a gun!” and Brady’s (Eric Martsolf) ending line, “Oh, my God!” there is plenty to conjecture.

Also seen in the teaser is Kate (Lauren Koslow) trying to rip off the face of Susan Banks (Stacy Haiduk), and Stefan (Brandon Barash) and Gabi (Camila Banus) getting hot and heavy and Eric (Greg Vaughan) yelling, “No!”

So, check out the promo below and then let us know via the comment section below, what you think is about to go down at Jarlena’s party, where last August at their nuptials … things did not go off without a hitch, either!

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DAYS Stacy Haiduk and Eric Martsolf Talk Kristen & Brady’s Twisted Relationship : The Mask, The Deception, The Sex

Last week on Days of our Lives, Kristen (Stacy Haiduk) was able to get the man she craves in between the sheets.  So, just how did that happen when Brady Black (Eric Martsolf) had no idea she was alive?  Well … he still doesn’t, really.  You see, Kristen returned to Salem disguised as another ex flame of Brady’s, Nicole Walker (who everyone believed died in the warehouse explosion).  And Kristen has been parading around town donning an incredible likeness of Nicole’s face – via a prosthetic mask – and some other tricks to sound and look just like her!

Kristen’s goal is to infiltrate Salem, remind Brady of the love and passion they shared, take over DiMera Enterprises, and who knows what else!  And everyone who stands in her way, better watch out as we have seen! We are speaking to you (the late) Ted, and (once kidnapped) Kate, et al.

Fans of the NBC daytime drama series have followed the tortured relationship between Kristen and Brady for years and through many plots; Kristen was first played and brought to life by Eileen Davidson, and for well over a year now by Stacy Haiduk.  Not only has Haiduk reprised the role of a frustrated, vengeful Kristen, she is also playing at times multiple roles: the wacky and often misunderstood, Susan Banks, Kristen playing Susan, or Kristen pretending to be Sister Mary Moira.

As for Daytime Emmy winner, Eric Martsolf, this latest story arc puts him front and center as viewers watch to see if what Brady senses, and the clues, and the feelings he is having, bring him to the conclusion that he has been duped by Kristen, and that her horrendous scheme – pretending to be Nicole (Arianne Zucker), and dumping Nicole’s longtime love Eric (Greg Vaughan) to be with him have a result that is unexpected or catastrophic!

Michael Fairman TV sat down with Stacy and Eric for this conversation about: all the plot twists, and playing the drama and the humor of the situations they find themselves in as actors in a wild story that only head writer Ron Carlivati could pen and keep the audience on the edge of their seats in the process. Check out this oh-so-fun, direct, and enlightening chat with two of DAYS most shining stars.

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Eric, what has it been like working in this part of your storyline; where there’s the character of Kristen in its many forms: Arianne Zucker playing “Nicole” (but it’s really Kristen), Kristen as Susan, and the real Kristen, etc?

ERIC:  It’s been a nightmare Michael.  (Laughs)  I don’t know who I’m sleeping with anymore.  I’m at the point where I go home at night, and I just tug on my wife’s cheek just to make sure that she is not my ex-girlfriend from high school.

When you first heard of this storyline, and that it was going to facilitate how Arianne was going to come back to the show… and that it was supposed to be Kristen in a Nicole Walker prosthetic mask with a voice alternator, what went through your mind?

ERIC:  I think in the back of Ron’s Carlivati’s (head writer, DAYS) mind, he was thinking to himself, “This dude started his soap career on Passions, he’s okay with this kind of thing,” and honestly, nothing surprises me anymore.  When you’re thrown into that supernatural, crazy reality, doesn’t-live-here sort of atmosphere for you first soap gig, you don’t sweat a mask and a voice modulator.  That’s just par for the course.  My biggest problem was the body thing … that Brady is not able to distinguish one body from the other, because I would as Eric.  My God, I know every inch of my wife’s body.  So, it’s difficult to get my head around that, but at the same time, I’m going with the whole “love is blind” thing here. (Laughs)

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(Laughs) I was going just going to say that Brady would absolutely know Kristen’s body from how passionate their relationship has been in the past, as well, he would Nicole’s body from his relationship with her.

ERIC:  Since Kristen did finally just succeed – let’s use the word in “seducing” him, and using her wonderful feminine wiles as only Kristen has to get Brady in to bed, there was also another twist.  What plays after that is that he notices the tattoo that’s been removed, and she plays it off as scarring from the fire.  What’s going through his mind as he is making love to Nicole is a “Kristen train”.  He can’t get Kristen out of his mind, and the guilt that he feels about that is horrendous.

Right! Brady is thinking: “Why am I feeling this when I am supposed to be with Nicole!?”

ERIC:  Right!  Brady has been waiting for a relationship for God knows how many years now – at least a successful one.  He is so eager to have this work, even though he has been concerned about how Eric (Greg Vaughan) would feel about this.  In Brady’s mind, Eric is done with Nicole.  He’s good.  He loves Sarah (Linsey Godfrey).  This is fair game.  Brady and Nicole have always been close … they’ve been close before … so, for him, it’s, why not give it a fair try?   However, he finds himself now thinking about another woman the whole time.  That’s rough.

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Do you think in the back of his mind, that this whole time, he possibly knew that “Nicole” was Kristen?

ERIC:  Well, you just have to wait.  There will be a reveal eventually, obviously, but until then, let the games play on.

So, once Brady and “Nicole” have sex, he keeps thinking about Kristen?

ERIC:  Constantly!  She just plagues his mind.  I think he’s realizing that his affection for Kristen is anything but dead and is very alive, and I think this is Kristen’s master plan from the very beginning.  She knows that she pervades his soul, and once she does reveal herself, I would guess he would probably be surprised, maybe a little angry, but in the end … you can’t deny what your heart and your body wants, right?

One of my favorite recent scenes had Brady half-naked and Kristen as Susan getting into his room, because she was looking for the MIA Nicole mask she so desperately needed.  She finds herself gawking and lusting after Brady under her disguise, and he tries to remove himself from the situation and says, “Susan, I’m going to get in the shower…”

ERIC:  Yeah! And, “It’s not going to happen, baby.”

What was that like doing that scene?

STACY:  I loved it!  I thought Eric was brilliant in it.  I watched it, and I thought, “Oh, my God!”  (Laughs) It is one of my all-time favorite scenes.

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ERIC:  Kristen is a tiger.

STACY:  She is a tiger.  She’s got a goal, and she is going to go after that.  She has obstacles that are going to come in-between her goal, but she will go after whatever she wants.

When Stacy comes in to Brady’s room as Susan, were you not laughing?

ERIC: No!  I thought she was hot. (Laughs)

STACY:  He did … he loved it.  You liked me, didn’t you baby? (Laughs)

ERIC:  I don’t think anybody can deny that Stacy Haiduk’s portrayal of Susan Banks is ridiculously good.  Everything from her delivery … to her facial expressions.  I think it is amazing.  I mean, it is corny, and it is fun, and soaps need characters like that once in a while to lighten the load of the heavy dialogue and the drama.  It’s a welcomed addition.  So, I love playing scenes with Susan.

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Eric, you always have been able play the straight-man so well in comedic scenes with impeccable timing,

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STACY:  You’re brilliant, Eric.

ERIC:  You guys are being very nice to me.

STACY:  You are.  I remember on the day how much fun we had, but then, seeing it back and the crap that I was giving you, and just the stuff you were giving back was so beautiful, and innocent, and so alive.  It was so funny.

Does Kristen think that now that she finally got Brady into bed that she won … that she got what she wanted … even if she had to don a “Nicole” mask to do it?

STACY:  Well, no, because she still can’t be really Kristen.  I think she is grateful that she gets to be with him.  That’s one of her biggest goals: to be with Brady and she wants to have him fall back in love with her again.  But for her, now it’s all about, “How do I reveal myself so that he doesn’t get scared away?”  That’s the toughest part for her.  Kristen’s love is so deep that it goes beyond this mask.  So, how is it going to be when he sees her?   Is he going to freak out?  What’s going to happen?

ERIC:  Did you think Kristen would be a little pissed off and think, “Oh my God.  He did go for Nicole?”

STACY:  Yes!  I do, because she’s like, “Finally, I got him!  But wait a minute … did I get him because I was Nicole … or because I was Kristen?”  As Kristen, she always believes there is something deeper between them and a deep connection.  That remains a driving force to her.

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ERIC:  That’s why I love these characters so much, because of you and the history of Kristen with Brady.  She’s always wanted him as much as he has wanted her.  She’s always wanted to be loved.

STACY:  Yes … and very much so.

ERIC:  Kristen had always wanted to be a part of the DiMera Empire, just as Brady has always wanted to be a part of the Kiriakis Empire, and they’ve always wanted love.  They’ve never had it.  They believe in the back of their minds that anything is attainable.  So, I can see why Kristen would just forgo the Nicole disguise and just go, “He wants me.”

STACY:  Kristen wants to believe that Brady knows it.  She says to herself, “He knows it’s me inside and behind the mask.  When he finds out, he will fall back in love with me.”

Now that she actually had sex with Brady, wouldn’t that make Kristen even more insatiable to be with him? Like, “I’ve got to have him!?”

STACY:  The fear is still .. what happens she takes this mask off?  She always says, “I’ll reveal myself, but I have to do it slowly when it is the right time.”  I think there is that built up frustration now for her, absolutely!

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Arianne Zucker really has Stacy’s mannerisms down as Kristen.  It really comes into in scenes where “Nicole” goes off on someone or loses her temper.  Eric, you have worked with Arianne for years on this show.  What do you think about her performances in this storyline?

ERIC:  I have worked with Ari over the years, and I have enjoyed it a lot.  Ari did do her homework.  She did study Stacy’s tape, and she watched her mannerisms, and she took it very seriously.  I know that because she is a hard worker, as much as a goofball as she is, she does work hard, and she wanted it to be good.  I think my favorite parts were the Kristen meltdowns.  You have to understand though; Stacy and Ari get along very well!  They’re kind of two peas in a pod.  So, it wasn’t a big stretch for her to take on how Stacy would play those types of scenes.  They’re both animated, they’re both wild people by nature, and so, it was a good fit.  It was a smart idea from the writers.

STACY:  It was a good fit!

ERIC:  I’ve been out with the two of them, and it’s hard to tell the two of them apart. (Laughs)

STACY:  We are just like two cuddly bunnies.

ERIC:  They’re like flirting with each other, and hugging each other.  You find yourself thinking, “Are they going to start ordering the same food at the same time?  This is getting weird. (Laughs)

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In the recent scene that aired; where Kristen as “Nicole” turns off the light while having sex with Brady, is she worried her plan will now go awry?

STACY:  Yes.  I think she is worried about her body because it is burned.  You know, how they take a tattoo off, and it’s as painful as can be.  Not that I’ve had that done personally.  I like my tats, but I hear it is painful.  So, in the storyline, the burn is that pain that she has and the tattoo. There’s a part of her that thinks,  she has to cover it up, and turn the lights down low.

ERIC:  “Nicole” is sleeping, and Brady is rubbing his hands over her shoulder and touching her body, and as he goes over the burn marks.  He sees a flash of the tattoo!  That is a pivotal moment when he starts to put some pieces together.   He thinks, “Woah! That’s exactly where that tattoo was.”  It’s a slow little rollercoaster ride.

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In the past, Kristen then played by Eileen Davidson, drugged and raped Father Eric.  Stacy, did you ever see that story arc?  Literally the sex scene is playing on the screen at Kristen’s wedding to Brady and then all hell breaks loose.  This to say Kristen is notorious for the ways and the lengths she goes to get her men into bed.

STACY:  Yes! I saw her Eileen do those scenes.

ERIC:  You also saw how close Kristen and Brady were to their dream, to their happiness, their goal, which was they were going to marry each other.  Brady is looking upon his loved ones in this town and thinking, “I know what you all think of her, but I’m going to show you our love on this screen, and once you see the connection that we have here as a couple, you all are going to be convinced that we belong together as well.  This is the happiest day of my life,” and the screen comes up and it’s his brother banging Kristen instead.

Marlena (Deidre Hall) played the wrong DVD!

STACY:  It was so good.  See, I try to find as much info as I can on the character’s past, because all of the time I’m trying to find where these characters have been in their dark and twisted past.

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ERIC:  You’re putting your own stamp on Kristen.  You got a direct call from DAYS casting department, didn’t you … when they were recasting the role?

STACY:  Yes.  You have to understand, I had two really separate characters to play when I was on Y&R.  One was a doctor, and one was this crazy passionate, wild, little minx.

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ERIC:  I will say to find the wild and the beauty in one package is not easy in any town, yet alone Los Angeles.  I’m glad they called you, because you have that.  You have that villainous nature, but you also are able to show a vulnerable side to Kristen that is going to be a lot of fun and interesting to see.

Stacy is one of those people that will leap off of the screen at you and you will remember her.  She is one actress that will have fans talking about their work, like when you played crazy Patty Williams on Y&R.  The audience was on the edge of their seats going, “Oh, my God!  What is Patty going to do next?”

STACY:  I never knew what she was going to do!

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Eric, has Stacy come to you at any point where she been overwhelmed by the task at hand; playing Susan while playing Kristen, etc, and the two of you have a moment where you work through some of the challenges of complex scenes  … and ones where she is playing multiple characters?

ERIC:  We’ve had many moments  to speak of.

STACY:  I always come into Eric’s room, and am like, “I’m scared!”

ERIC:  It’s funny you mention it.  We have had some very emotional scenes, and Stacy – who cares so damn much about this job and portraying this character correctly – that she gets a little overwhelmed, and the material that they give her is overwhelming for any anybody on any level.  I have looked at her in the eyes, and said, “You’ve got this gig.  You are this character.  You are knocking it out of the park.  Just do it.  Just be you.”   I can’t wait for people to see some of the stuff we have shot recently and have been doing.

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Stacy, do you think Kristen can be redeemed? Many characters on daytime … and on DAYS … have done horrible things and later turned over a new leaf.

STACY:  The thing is that villains are bad and all that other crap, but they’ve got a lot of stuff going on inside and insecurities, and they’ve got a heart.  I’m sorry, the villain with a heart of gold, can be very  true.  I never see villains (and I play them a lot) as bad.  You have to find where it comes from … how far does this go … where did that little seed change … and what made them go into the dark, but also, where is the good?  You want to bring the good to it, too.

ERIC:  Let’s face it!  Star Wars is all about Darth Vader and how he became that because it’s intriguing.

Because of the pace in which DAYS tapes its episodes; do the two of you find time to run lines together before you go hit the set?

ERIC:  We are running out of time to run lines.  It’s pretty wild.  Funnily enough, I was recently filming a movie and I was so underwhelmed at the pace of everything.  I’ve gotten so accustomed to moving at this militant style, that as hard as it is, it is preferable to me now.  I almost like it because you don’t have time to overthink what you are going to do, and you end up getting more visceral and natural reactions to the material.  You can overthink a scene, and you can come to a wrong performance that way.  When you burn your fingers on a hot stove, that’s the most natural reaction you are going to get.  You can’t have ten minutes to think about how you are going to scream about that pain.

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But, would you like the pace of shooting the show to be a bit slower?

STACY:  I would like to, but I do think sometimes just jumping in, and going and seeing what happens is great.  I love that.  I do appreciate that.

ERIC:  It’s scary.

STACY:  It is scary.  I would love if we would get to do a rehearsal and then two takes just to see, and then they can mix  together what happens.  Sometimes I am hard on myself as an actress.  I’ve always been.  It’s that jumping in when you only get to do one take.  You have to just give it everything you’ve got.

ERIC:  You can have a second take.  Want me to give you a little secret?  All you have to do is screw up your last line.

STACY:  I can’t do that.   I don’t even need it to be perfect because nothing is perfect.  It doesn’t matter what I’ve done if I sometimes don’t feel it.  I need to feel it when I’m on that set.  I need to feel something because when I shut down, I close myself off.  It’s like an athlete who has just got to  train as hard as they can to reach their goal.

ERIC:  You’re an Olympic swimmer!

STACY:  You’ve got to do it as hard as you can.  You practice, and you practice, and you practice, and you practice, so that when you come to that day, you do the best you can, but sometimes you are disappointed because you didn’t get that one last thing you had hoped for.

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How do you view what happened to Eric with Kristen, who disguised as Nicole, tricked Brady into bed with her?  Some fans commented that that they thought it was akin to a rape.

ERIC:  No, I would disagree with that theory.  I believe there is a high degree of deception in this, but there is a willingness on behalf of Brady.  He’s not drugged.  He’s not being forced to do anything.  Deception, yes.  Rape, no.

Stacy, what do you think?

STACY:  Total deception.  There is no rape.  There is absolutely no rape.  These are willing participants; he just doesn’t know exactly who he is dealing with.

ERIC:  I appreciate the context of how somebody could construe that, and the seriousness of the matter.  I don’t think it really has a place in this particular storyline.

Do you guys think that Brady and Kristen are each other’s star-crossed lovers in a weird, twisted, bizarre way?

ERIC:  I don’t know.  I think they’re magnetism can’t be denied.  I think the hurdles that they’ve jumped through are astronomical.  Will they end up together in the end?  Who knows!  Will there ever be an end?  Who knows!  It’s definitely been one of, if not the most, in-depth relationships Brady has ever had.

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And intense!

ERIC:  Yeah.  They’ve just gone through so much to be together, and when you do that, anybody who is married knows that, that’s where the good stuff is; the wars that you win together and the battles that you go through.  When you come out of the war, and you’re still together, that’s the bond.  That’s what lasts.

What would Kristen do if she couldn’t have Brady in the end?  Would she find a new obsession?  What if she could not nab her man?

STACY:  Wow!  Hmmm. (Laughs)  She’s going to get her man.  She wants her man.  She wouldn’t settle.  She’d keep fighting.  I would say to her, “Kristen, keep fighting the good fight.”

So, do you think Kristen will reveal herself to Brady sooner than later? Will Brady figure out what Kristen has been doing to get to him?  Will Brady turn Kristen away if he knew she was alive and back in action  … or would he fall back into her arms? Share your theories via the comment section below.

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Daytime Emmys To Merge Younger Actor & Actress Category Into One As Gender-Inclusive Categories Are On The Rise

The upcoming 47th annual Daytime Emmys are already making some changes to key categories and specifically this one that affects daytime drama performers.  Word from Variety is that NATAS (National Academy of Television Arts and Sciences) is going to announce that they are combining the Younger Actor and Actress categories into one gender-neutral category

Not only will the Younger performer category be gender-inclusive, but network soap performances will be combined with digital drama series performances for the category.  Previously, for this past Daytime Emmys, NATAS had changed the Guest Performer in a Drama Series to be gender-inclusive.

This category was initially created in 1985 when it was called the Outstanding Ingenue and then from there tweaked into Outstanding Juvenile Female and Male, and more recently that morphed into the Younger Actor and Actress categories.

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Former GH star Hayley Erin (Ex-Kiki) and former DAYS star, Kyle Pettis (Ex-Theo) will now be the last female and male to win the two separate categories with this new move for 2020.

Fans of film and TV have noticed that on several award shows on MTV: their Movie and TV Awards and their VMA’s, there are several gender-inclusive categories, as well as the Television Critics Association Awards who for instance doles out Outstanding Individual Achievement in Drama in comedy.

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So, what do you think of the change; that there will now be one Younger performer category at the Daytime Emmys? Comment below.

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