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Kassie DePaiva Dishes On: CASTLE's One Life to Live Reunion Episode, Nathan Fillion and Tuc Watkins, Her Daytime Emmy Pre-Nom & Saying Goodbye To DAYS!

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“Cause we only have One Life to Live … but it’s on Castle!”  Sing it!  Daytime soap fans, and those in particular of the beloved citizens of Llanview, are having a reunion of sorts, on a very special Valentine’s Day episode (airing Sunday night, February 14th 10PMET/PT) of the ABC procedural crime drama Castle!  The upcoming episode entitled “Witness for the Prosecution” will feature special guest stars: Kassie DePaiva (Ex-Blair), Tuc Watkins (Ex-David) and Darlene Vogel (Ex-Melanie), who are all involved in the latest murder mystery on the hit series starring Nathan Fillion as Richard Castle (Ex-Joey, OLTL).

On-Air On-Soaps caught up with former One Life to Live favorite, Kassie DePaiva, to get all the scuttlebutt on how it all came together for good friends, Tuc, Nathan, and Kassie to work together again in such a fun capacity … and Kassie teases what to look for from her character of Joanna Mathis, who has some sort of celebrity crush on Castle, that kicks off the reunion episode.

Meanwhile, as Days of our Lives fans know, Tuesday was Kassie’s final episode as Eve Donovan on the NBC daytime drama series.  The actress took to Twitter and shared: “Well… That’s all folks! I had fun! Thanks fans… you made it all worth while.”  Six-months ago, Kassie found out the powers-that-be decision to write-out her character.  But while her time in Salem turned out to be much shorter than she originally anticipated, DePaiva did garner herself a Daytime Emmy Pre-Nomination last month in the Outstanding Lead Actress category for her heavy emotional scenes surrounding Paige’s (True O’Brien) murder.  During our chat, Kassie shares what it meant to her to still be in the running going into the blue-ribbon round of judging, especially since she is no longer with the show, plus she leaves soap fans a very special message.  So, here’s what Kassie had to say about a little slice of Llanview coming to Castle, missing OLTL, and her DAYS finale.

How did this all come to pass that you ended up on this special Valentine’s Day episode of Castle, which reunites you with Tuc Watkins, and Nathan Fillion on-screen?

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KASSIE:  Tuc, and Nathan, and I had dinner the night before I found this out, but my agent had already submitted me for a role on Castle!  Then the next day when I was talking to my agent he said, “I submitted you for a role on Castle.”  I said, “Well that’s funny.  I just had dinner last night with Nathan Fillion, and he’s a very good friend.”  My agent said, “Maybe you should text Nathan and tell him you’re agent submitted you for the role.”  So that is what I did.  Then I did not hear anything from Nathan, but then three days later my agent said I had gotten the role.  I texted Nathan and I said, “I got the role!” And then Nathan said, “And you’re going to be surprised about who your husband is!”  That’s when I found out it was Tuc.  I went, “Oh, my God. That’s great.”  Then I found out about Darlene Vogel, but that was just an amazing random thing that she was also in the episode.  It was wonderful to see her; she is just as beautiful as ever.  It was fun.

So, you and Tuc play a couple?  Ah, if only David Vickers, and Blair Cramer were there! (Laughs)

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KASSIE:  Yes, Tuc is my husband.  I play a fan of Richard Castle named Joanna Mathis, so I am not really acting at all! (Laughs)  It’s me sort of fawning over Nathan’s character, so it’s funny.

How long have you known Nathan?  You all were on One Life together.

KASSIE:  We were trying to figure that out: I think it has been 22 years since we had worked together.  I started first on One Life, then Tuc, and then Nathan, but it was all within a year of each other.  I started in November of 1993.  I think those guys started in 1994.

Do you think that the episode contains four former stars of One Life was just so random?  At some point somebody realized they had a way to pull in more daytime viewers to this episode!

KASSIE:  I don’t think it was a planned One Life to Live casting stunt.  I think the stars kind of aligned.  I think Nathan had a say in Tuc and my casting.  I’m not sure with Darlene, because I had never worked with her before.

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It’s very impressive that given that others in Hollywood have shied away from their soap roots, Nathan Fillion has embraced them.  He’s appreciated and respected the medium that gave him his start.  Through the years he has spoken highly, and of how much he learned from: Erika Slezak (Ex-Viki), Robin Strasser (Ex-Dorian), and Bob Woods (Ex-Bo).

KASSIE:  The day we all worked together on set, Nathan said, “I wouldn’t be here today, if I hadn’t worked with these great guys, and learned so much doing daytime”.  I’m glad that he feels that way, and proud enough to say that, and humble enough to say that.  In daytime, you can learn a lot.  It instills a discipline in you that you can’t find anywhere else. Nathan has a lot of responsibility being a lead in a nighttime series.  I am sure everything that he learned doing a soap has only given him the tools to be as successful as he is now.  It’s nice that he accredits his placement in his success where his roots were.  I think it’s great.

Did you think when you first knew a young Nathan on OLTL, he would go on to such great mainstream success?

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KASSIE:  You never know that kind of thing, but Nathan opted to leave One Life, and he left at a really great time.  I think Bob Woods (Ex-Bo, OLTL) even told Nathan that this was his time to go, and soaps will always be there.  Nathan is unbelievably quick-witted, and a very, very intelligent guy.  He is really quick on his feet, and he is very special.  Not only is he very handsome, but he can be charming, and he can be the hero, which is nice.  He and Tuc, for as long as I have known them, they are both two of the funniest guys I know.  I just adore being around them.

The three of you must have laughed yourselves silly then while taping this Valentine’s Day episode of Castle!

KASSIE:  Oh yes!  When you see the episode it is funny!  There were takes we were laughing so hard, that we couldn’t get through it.  Nathan sets the tone of the set, and everyone adores him.  He makes everyone feel comfortable.  It was just a really nice, pleasant set to work on.

With the disappointment of being let go from Days of our Lives, it seemed like getting this Castle gig was a nice gem at the right time.

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KASSIE:  You know, if I would have still been on DAYS I wouldn’t be able to shoot Castle.  But, after being over at the DAYS studio the other day, I still would love to still be working on a soap.  I love soap operas.  I wish there were five soap operas in New York that I could audition for, but there are not.  So I’m out in L.A., and since I’m out here I am going to try to land roles on television.  But to answer your question, it was nice to immediately get something after leaving DAYS.

So many soap actors at pilot season, or even when roles that come up that they are right for in motion picture or television, still find themselves at the receiving end of the ‘poor stepchild of entertainment’ stigma attached to being on a soap opera with casting directors, or producers.  Would you agree in your experience?

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KASSIE:  Of course, there is.  The general meetings I’m having with casting people, they have been very complimentary to daytime actors.  But for whatever reason, there is a hump you have to get over.  I do think it’s a matter of them wanting to see what you did last, so as long as you’re working it doesn’t matter.  It’s hard to tell a casting person when it shows up on paper that I have been working almost every single day for the last 25 years!  You know, what I mean? (Laughs).  It’s kind of hard for someone to wrap their head around it.  They will go, “Oh …oh, OK.”   I probably did somewhere between 3500 episodes of One Life to Live.  You think about that, and you realize that is the kind of stuff that is crazy!

The Revolution, Katie and FAB Life have all been cancelled by ABC, or Disney/ABC syndication, or distribution wings of the network.  Nothing that has replaced One Life to Live in its previous time slot has been a success, but instead a mitigated disaster.  In your opinion, and having been a longtime cast member of One Life, do you think anyone looks at it from a network perspective, and says they made a mistake by canning the soap?

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KASSIE:  I have said this to you before: “It blows my mind that within that year ABC Daytime, which was the strongest daytime line-up of all three networks at that time, wiped out so much, and lost so much.”  They lost Oprah, because she decided to end her run, One Life to Live, All My Children were cancelled, and Live with Regis and Kelly changed, because Regis Philbin retired.  So, all of that just changed the face of the day for the network.  The problem with that, from my point of view, is that the loyal fan base was so angry that they boycotted ABC, and they have not come back.  I have gotten letters which have said, “I have not watched anything ABC has put on, but I will watch Castle since you’re on it.”  Those are the kinds of messages I think a network needs to pay attention to.  Maybe it doesn’t matter to them.  They have to have acknowledged that what they have put into place of One Life to Live has failed.  It probably cost more money to put all those failed attempts on than the show they rolled off the network.

So what else can you tease for us to look forward to during your Castle episode, entitled, “Witness for the Prosecution”?

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KASSIE:  I play kind of a socialite, and murder takes place at my home.  I just drove by the home we shot it in over in Hancock Park, and I showed my husband Jimmy (James DePaiva, Ex-Max, OLTL) it.  I shot all my scenes on location, and not on the set.  I said to Jimmy, ‘That’s my house!  It’s a big ole honking mansion!” (Laughs)  It was great.  The episodes of Castle are an hour long, but very cleverly written.  In the first scene you are looking at the murder, but you don’t know who the murderer is.  Everyone is a suspect:  You think it could be me, or Tuc, or this person, or that person.  As the episode develops, Richard Castle figures it out.  The set up is: My character buys Richard Castle at a charity auction to come to do a reading in my home, and while we are there a murder takes place.  Tuc’s character is a cameraman, and Darlene plays a news anchor/reporter.  Everyone is a suspect in the very first scene.

It must have been heartwarming to see the OLTL fans reactions when you posted on social media that you were filming this Castle episode that reunited with you and Tuc, Nathan, and also that featured Darlene Vogel.  They were very excited!

KASSIE:  I know!  I thought it was just really special, and what blows me away is why can’t we just go back and do One Life to Live again?  Why can’t we just do it?  I know we can’t have all those characters because of legal issues, but hey, Ron Carlivati (former head writer, OLTL and GH) is available.

So on Tuesday, DAYS fans saw your final scenes as Eve!

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KASSIE:  Yes.  Eve wants to take Claire (Olivia Keegan) to New York for the Julliard audition, but Belle (Martha Madison) is not happy about.  I got to share some final scenes with A Martinez (Eduardo) too, and then that’s the last I’m seen.

Have you kept in touch with the cast from DAYS since your departure six months ago?  You received a Lead Actress Daytime Emmy Pre-Nomination for your performance during your time there.  What are you submitting for the final blue-ribbon round of voting?

KASSIE:   First, I have kept in touch with Wally Kurth (Justin), and had lunch the other day with Mary Beth Evans (Kayla).  I also recently had lunch with Kate Mansi (Ex-Abigail) and Missy Reeves (Jennifer).  I met such wonderful people there.  So, it’s all good.  Everyone sent congratulatory Pre-Noms wishes, which was nice.  For the blue-ribbon round I am going with the scenes with A Martinez (Eduardo) after Paige dies, and scenes surrounding Paige’s funeral.

Do you feel that getting a Daytime Emmy Pre-Nom is in any way vindication for you being let go by DAYS?

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KASSIE:   I have no real bitterness about DAYS.  What’s great is that I felt it was a gift to play that part.  I got to finally play the grief-stricken mom, and just go to the dark place, and am lucky I had some really strong material.  It’s now up to somebody’s taste, and what they think is good, and what they prefer, and consider quality acting.  I did the best I could with what I have, but after 30 years of throwing your name in the hat … does it mean something?  Yeah, it means something.  But will it change anything?  No, it won’t.  I mean, if I get a nomination, I was still let go.

Did you participate in the Pre-Nom voting process?  If so, what did you think of the overall performances of your peers that submitted their work in competition this year?

KASSIE:  I did vote in the acting categories, and there were some wonderful performances this year.  I knew about 70 % of the people I was voting on, and some people I was not familiar with their work.  I judged on what I though was the best as far as I was concerned, and when watching some of my friends, I thought to me that wasn’t the best work that I knew they could do, and then there were people that I didn’t know that I would go, “I like that! I thought that was honest, and beautiful work.  I’m going to vote for you.”  I think that is the way people should look at these tapes.

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In closing, what would you want to say to those DAYS fans who loved your performances as Eve, and to those who have supported you throughout your daytime career, and all the twists and turns along the way?

KASSIE:  My “thank you” and my gratitude goes to the overall soap opera fan, and after being on four of these soap operas. (Laughs)  It’s nice to have fans that follow you from soap to soap, and nice to bring new viewers to new soaps that follow you. Then it’s nice just to meet new people along the way.  I think I had an opportunity with doing the two Day of DAYS events, and a couple of other events in Washington D.C. where I had a couple nice one on ones with some really wonderful fans.  I love soap opera fans, and they love storytelling.  I am just glad to be a part of the bigger picture.

So, are you excited to see the One Life to Live reunion on the Valentine’s Day episode of Castle? What did you think about Kassie’s sentiments on Nathan Fillion and Tuc Watkins, and missing Llanview?  Are you rooting for Kassie to land a final spot in the Lead Actress category for the Daytime Emmys, when the nominations are revealed on March 24th? What did you think about her final DAYS scenes as Eve, and her love of the soap medium and its fans?  Post your thoughts in the comment section below!

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Jimh(leave it to beaver)
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Jimh(leave it to beaver)

I miss so many soaps…when i was growing up there were so many to watch…i miss just having three networks who always had good quality shows including several soaps in the 60s and 70s and it was all free!…I just wish there was a new drama channel filled with old soaps and new ones…id keep it on all day.

Iakovos
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Iakovos

Amen!

Erick
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Erick

Boy oh boy… In the late ’80s you had airing new episodes at one time (big breath): All My Children, Another World, As the World Turns, The Bold and the Beautiful, Days of Our Lives, General Hospital, Guiding Light, Loving, One Life to Life, Ryan’s Hope, Santa Barbara, Search for Tomorrow, The Young and the Restless. Count ’em, 13! And that doesn’t include prime-timers Dallas, Dynasty, Falcon Crest, and Knots Landing.

mollie
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mollie

I would love that. I think that would be a smart business decision for a company.

vinman
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vinman

Miss the days of soap from 11:30am-4:00pm….my line-up…
Love of Life
Where the Heart Is
Search for Tomorrow
WorldTurns..GL..EON…SecretStorm…OMG…the good ol’days!!

Maureen Stephan Hoeler
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Maureen Stephan Hoeler

love the reunion, but it would have been better if Erika (Vicki) and Bob (Bo) were in it also maybe as Castle’s Aunt and Uncle.

CeeCee
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CeeCee

So, so sweet, my Kassie. I could listen to her forever. I love her almost as much as Michelle Stafford, LOL. Her smile simply opens my heart. Now, all CASTLE needs is another episode starring Roger, Kassie and kristen. My soap world would be almost perfect. Break a leg, you guys!!

Dinah
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Dinah

Kassie is the best, great interview Michael

nancy dillingham
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nancy dillingham

Great interview, as usual, Michael. And I bow to Nathan Fillion for not being ashamed of having worked on soaps–and for sincerely thanking fellow soap actors from which he learned a lot. And Kassie makes some very salient remarks about working on soaps–and is complimentary of the loyal fans. Good for you, Kassie!

Penny
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Penny

Very, Very Excited!

blake
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blake

She is such a class act and beautiful spirit, top that off with great acting and it’s no wonder she’s been so successful as an actor for about 30 years. So nice to see her not upset about Days. I hope that she can land another soap or something else.

And it’s great that she got the role on Castle and the pre-nom for Days. I really hope she gets the final nomination, better yet win!!!

Ricardo
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Ricardo

Kassie is a classy. sassy lady. I hope she wins the daytime emmy. Kassie will be back in Daytime, sooner than later. GH needs to hire Kassie, in a new role.

mollie
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mollie

Agree, she is classy and smart. I wish there were more daytime options for her than GH though!

brian
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brian

Gees… I hope someone at ABC reads this. As Kassie states ” and what blows me away is why can’t we just go back and do One Life to Live again? Why can’t we just do it?”

Bravo !

Llanviewer717
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Llanviewer717

Thank you for this interview. I can’t wait to see this episode of Castle. I miss our beloved One Life to Live every second of everyday!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dara M
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Dara M

Thanks for the lovely interview. Kassie is a class act and an incredible talent. She certainly deserves an Emmy for her masterful turn as Eve during Paige’s death. I’m happy to hear she submitted her work with A. Martinez. Their scenes together were hard to watch because they were so honest in their grief. Just brilliant.

I’ll be watching her on Castle and look forward to her next project. She is way too talented to be sitting on the sidelines.

Iakovos
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Iakovos

Love Kassie and need here back on screens in a regular role this year!

mollie
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mollie

She did some great work on Day’s after Paige’s murder. Really emotional and real. I would love to see her win the Emmy.

Anna
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Anna

DOOL should be ashamed of themselves on how they ended Kassie’s /Eve’s time on the show! That was a HORRIBLE send off for such a wonderful, gifted actress. I’m ashamed to be a fan of the show after today’s episode. Thank you Kassie. You were incredible on the show and it’s sad that it wasn’t noticed.

Dan
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Dan

Amen to you Anna, I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU. DAYS ARE PATHETIC, IN FIRING KASSIE. ANNA KASSIE WILL BE BACK SOON, ON ANOTHER SOAP.

Marie
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Marie

Maybe I wasn’t paying attention and missed something. Was the character of Eve packing up and moving somewhere? I watched today thinking she was going to be ushered off or kidnapped or hit by a car or something since it was her last episode. I assumed the organization she started in Paige’s honor was going to be in Salem? Was I mistaken? Was it explained that she would be moving somewhere else? It just felt like any other day. Maybe I’m so focused on Chad and Abby and Rafe and Hope that I don’t pay as close attention to some… Read more »

CeeCee
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CeeCee

It doesn’t take long for Hope’s infantile shenanigans to put holes in every storyline and confuse the heck out ot of the viewer, Marie. She has me at a choke-hold, too. What is the purpose of her and Rafe? I am so bored, I just FF through their scenes. Settle this woman down, PTB… And I don’t mean with Rafe or any man. I mean, calm her down….she has been doing the same thing for 30 years. Some guy always ends up stuck to her to continue her half-arsed escapades. Sorry you started watching amidst another of Hope’s dramas, Marie.

Anna
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Anna

No Marie sadly you didn’t miss anything. I guess that was their “send off” for one of Daytime’s best actresses! I’m so upset right now about that episode and how Kassie/Eve was handled that I may stop watching completely. And you can bet I let the powers that be at DOOL know but they obviously don’t care what fans think anyway. Very unfortunate.

Llanviewer717
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Llanviewer717

Very well said.

carol
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carol

I agree I love Kassie she got a raw deal she was suppose to have had a big role in distroying Jennifer but that never came about,she was going to drive her crazy however I think the new writers put a stop to that.It stinks,Kassie you are a great person and we all love you. and the best to you.Hey maybe she can come back as someone else no such luck.I don’t get why they let one of the best actresses on tv go,what could they have been thinking ?Then again they weren’t thinking.I missed her last show.This is unfair… Read more »

Rj
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Rj

I wish Kassie alł the best. She is very talented, and seems so nice and down to earth. In addition to Castle, I hope we see her regularly on other shows!

Patricia Nolan-Hall (Caftan Woman)
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Patricia Nolan-Hall (Caftan Woman)

I haven’t watched “Castle” this season, but will make a point of catching that episode.

I’m very disappointed that Kassie and Eve will no longer be a part of DOOL. I am hoping that some wonderful opportunities are coming her way.

PS: There’s a place in my heart where Kassie is still Chelsea. My, how time flies.

Phil
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Phil

Days, please bring her back like GH just did with Michael Easton.

Mike
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Mike

So, these brilliant new writers are so good that they decide the best way to write off Eve is to … not actually write her off. While she isn’t in the middle of some hot story, she is playing a role IN a story and the writers can’t be bothered to bring it to a conclusion? That’s just all kinds of disrespectful to viewers and the actress – and incredibly lazy on the part of the writers.

Patrick
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Patrick

” I am Bitter ”

the quality and intelligence of Kassie DePaiva… will always be Emmy Worthy

I want this to be an in your face, Ken Corday ! an emmy win for Eve character.

you let go the best of the best… she is so professional… so captivating… so endeared by fellow actors and has a huge fan following

tim S
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tim S

mmm that was it today??? shame on days.. she deserved a better send off..

Evan
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Evan

Kassie is the best actress in Daytime, I will miss seeing her in my screen. Days made a huge mistake in firing her. I hope she wins the Daytime emmy. General hospital need to hire Kassie right away.

Rose
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Rose

So looking forward to this episode of Castle with Kassie and Tuck. Wish they could have found a way to have Dorian and Erika on as well. Castle has been one show I break my boycott with ABC to watch because of Nathan and the other roles he’s played since Joey…Mal/Firefly and The Preacher/Buffy. Wonder what happened to Brian Frons and other ABC hachet execs who axed OLTL and AMC? I’m sure the is a rule at ABC to never admit to their mistake in cancelling them. Also what takes so long in cleaning up the Prospect Park thing and… Read more »

Kyle
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Kyle

Kassie is one of if not the best actress in daytime tv. The only reason I started watching #DAYS, is because of Kassie. She was absolutely fantastic on #OLTL. My hope is #GH snaps her back up, for either a new character or a recast of a favorite. I cannot wait for this episode of #Castle. Thank You Kassie for everything you have done for the fans. #KentuckyNative #BBN..

Mo
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Mo

That was her last ep, but it didn’t resolve her story. Disappointed in that respect.

OLTL4EVER
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OLTL4EVER

Can’t wait to see my OLTL friends together again on Castle. Wish we could see more of the Llanview gang…Kassie absolutely deserves that award for her outstanding acting. Good luck & bring home that Emmy!!!

Jim Preston
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Jim Preston

Well, if it is any consolation, in my opinion Days of Our Lives lately is kind of lacking. This storyline between Phillip and Belle is uninteresting and not at all compelling. When Eve (as played by Kassie) was involved with JJ and Paige found out, those scenes were bone chilling. When Paige died, Kassie as Eve did a great job crying over her, it was totally believable. Now, I don’t know, the show is just draggy. I don’t care about Cierra getting upset over her stepbrother, I don’t care for the younger set on the show. As for One Life… Read more »

Anna
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Anna

Jim I agree that Days is lacking. They’ve brought on all these new actors (and still hiring new ones) instead of keeping a wonderful character like Eve portrayed by one of the best actresses to ever be on daytime. I could care less about Phillip, Belle, Shaun D, Ciera or her friends, etc. I’m not sure what they will be able to do to turn it around. Even characters like Kayla and Patch have been uninteresting and Jennifer is such a bore (but she’s always been). Not sure why they keep Jennifer and especially Melissa Reeves around. Melissa is one… Read more »

Tim Welles
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Tim Welles

I guess every storyline doesn’t appeal to every viewer, that I think is a reasonable assumption. HOWEVER right now the show really IS lacking – I love Abigail, but the actress playing her currently is leaving so I don’t know what the dynamic will be with Chad now – and there really isn’t anything “happening” on the show to me personally that I find that enthralling. Crazy Ben with Abby and Chad – that was fine, but that’s over. Kassie as Eve, well that was fine but that’s over – I admit I originally watched the show for Will and… Read more »

Patrick
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Patrick

DAYS; Ken Corday; needs to take a lesson and cue from GH

right a wrong; rehire back Kassie DePaiva… and / or, if it’s a whole new character

just like GH has done with Michael Easton

very doable

as Kasse DePaiva is the mot relatable talent out their…

4ever DAYS
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4ever DAYS

I understand how you feel, Patrick, but Corday and DAYS has their hands full with all the returns, including Freddie Smith and the possible return if Chandler Massey.

The previous writing regime hurt Kassie/Eve, but the newest writers managed to give her something worthy, but then Dena Higley gained more writing control before being banished. So, now with Beth Milstein in her place, she and Josh Griffith might bring Kassie/Eve back.

4ever DAYS
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4ever DAYS

*of

nancy dillingham
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nancy dillingham

Didn’t know that Dena Higley had been “banished”–interesting. Beth Milstein, you say? Hope she keeps up the innovative work that is happening at Days.

mike
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mike

She would be perfect in a Y&R triangle with Jack and Phyllis.

Ghlover
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Ghlover

Go to Gh as the Jenny Eckert and go against Paul! And Tracy!! Ohh my! Incan’t be the only one who would love that?!! GH brought back OlTL actors in different roles, they can do it for Kassie. Jenny would fit her to a T! Fingers crossed!

LeRoy Davidson
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LeRoy Davidson

Can’t wait to see the “Castle” episode. I have followed Kassie since “Guiding Light” and besides being such a fine actress, I think she has the sweetest singing voice since Karen Carpenter and Ella Fitzgerald.

boes
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boes

Love her, always did always will. I’ll watch anything she does.

Cassie Hicks
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Cassie Hicks

While I am thrilled that Kassie DePaiva had gotten herself a Daytime Emmy pre-nomination this year, and may not care when she’s gotten the part on the primetime sudser, “Castle”, but her compliments for her former “One Live To Live” castmates had been very spot-on, I wish that Eve had gotten a chance to tell Justin that she’s really leaving Salem, by saying good-bye to him, before she took Claire to Julliard to follow her dreams. Also, I appreciate Mrs. DePaiva’s deference to the soap opera industry, because it has been nothing but kind to her, and I hope she… Read more »

Kristen Howe
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Kristen Howe

I think Kassie has gotten it right. It’s been a long uphill battle to save our soaps and we’re not going to give up. I watched Kassie as Eve from start to finish and loved her scenes. I’m so glad she got than pre-nom for a Dayitme Emmy. It’s well deserved. I wish ABCD will get the big picture, solve the court room battle with Prospect Park, and bring our soaps back. Good news that DOOL got renewed for another year!

Ellen Wycuff
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Ellen Wycuff

I agree with Kassie. ABC did make a huge mistake by canceling AMC and OLTL. I am still boycotting their network after all this time. I wish they would bring them back to correct their mistakes

Carol b
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Carol b

I am a long time fan of OLTL, and I am one of the fans Kassie was discussing when she said we have not come back to ABC. There are only three shows I will watch, GH, Castle and Jeopardy. They have lost a huge number of watchers with their stupidity, and they won’t get them back. I’ve also been boycotting anything Disney from the day they killed my favorite show.

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Who is DAYS Gwen Really? What is Her Vendetta Against Abigail All About?

We have a new psycho in Salem, and she is played to perfection by Emily O’Brien who has been bringing her brand of quirky evil to the NBC soap opera as Gwen.  Soap fans, of course, remember her as Jana Hawkes on The Young and the Restless from 2006-2011.

Ron Carlivati and his DAYS writing team certainly have some tricks up their sleeve where Gwen is concerned as viewers recently found out she was behind slipping Abigail (Marci Miller) the drug months ago causing her hallucinations.

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But Gwen is even much darker than we think, when several key clues and moments were revealed on Friday’s episode of DAYS when she went to visit her conspirator in prison, Dr. Rolf (William Utay).

During the exchange, we learn Gwen has been getting the mind-altering drug from one of Dr. Rolf’s concoctions.  She reveals to him that their plan has hit the proverbial snag.  The drug did not dismantle Abigail as she had hoped.  We also learn while she was in the mental institution – Bayview – that is how she tracked Rolf down by researching the drug he had created.

And it appears, Rolf hates Abigail too, citing he always saw her as  thorn in Stefano’s side.  It is then Gwen says he wants another dose of the drug to “melt Abby’s brain!”  Rolf says without anyone else to take the fall for it, he can’t come up with it.

He suggests to her to alter her plan and to instead destroy Abigail’s life piece by piece … and go for the long game instead of the short term – take everything that is near and dear from her including her husband, children, home, everything.

But, what does come to light is that even Dr. Rolf does not know why Gwen wants to destroy Abigail.  That is when Gwen shares she has very good reason to hate Abigail, and he, along with everyone else, will find out why when the time is right.

So, what are your theories?  Who is Gwen?  Is she a character with plastic surgery?  Could she be a sister no one knew Abigail had?  A former mental patient who Abby knew when she was getting help a few years back? And what is her gripe with Abigail all about?  Comment below!

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Kassie DePaiva, Nathan Purdee & Taylor Purdee Talk ‘Killian & The Comeback Kids’, One Life to Live & Eve’s Reign of Terror on DAYS

It’s ‘all in the family’ + a dear friend that makes the film Killian and the Comeback Kids something that soap fans will want to see. In it, daytime veterans, Kassie DePaiva (Ex-GL, OLTL, GH and Days) and Nathan Purdee (Ex-Y&R and OLTL) are featured in the new movie directed, written and starring Nathan’s talented son, Taylor.

One Life to Live fans will get a kick out of that Kassie and Nathan play a married couple in the film.  In story, a millennial (Taylor A. Purdee) comes home to live with his parents in a depressed rural town after getting a college degree in the big city. The film illustrates the issues facing many of America’s youth today, which could not be more apropos for the times we are living with many children moving back in with their parents. However, the movie shares an uplifting message filled with original music from Taylor’s folk-rock band, The Cumberland Kids.

Michael Fairman TV chatted with Kassie, Nathan and Taylor to get the inside scoop on: collaborating together on this project, revisiting Llanview with some memories and thoughts on the cancellation of the beloved soap, plus Kassie’s last turn on Days of our Lives as an unhinged Eve Donovan – a performance that just may garner attention come Daytime Emmy time next year.

This conversation was filled with candor, humor, and a parent’s love for their child. Killian and the Comeback Kid is playing in selected theatres and dates including tonight Friday, September 25th in Atlanta, and October 2nd in Chicago. For more movie info go to the film’s website here And now here’s what Kassie, Nathan and Taylor shared.

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I was really intrigued by the film. Taylor, how did you lure your dad to be in the movie?

TAYLOR:  Oh my gosh, it was the craziest negation ever.

I bet! (Laughs)

TAYLOR:  When I was a kid, Roberta, my mom, made me promise to always write him roles.  So, it was kind of obligatory.

KASSIE:  That is so funny!

TAYLOR:  It’s true.

Had you met Kassie before, or was this the first time? 

TAYLOR:  I knew Kassie from when my dad and her were doing One Life to Live together.   Five years before I was filming this movie, Nathan texted me, “Hey!  Kassie and Jim (DePaiva) are right by your dorm room.  You should go see them!”  So, catching up as an adult was so nice.  I had a non-parentally controlled grown-up hang-out with her.

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What was the journey this film, Killian and the Comeback Kids, went on as far as from the writing of it, to production, to its completion?

TAYLOR:  Well, the front half was surprisingly quick.  I think writing it through to having it finished was about 18 months, and there were about 6 months of, “how’s it going to come out,” and then, we thought we knew what was going to happen, and we were all getting ready for it to hit in movie theatres in the spring when the world ended, and that’s how we got here three years later.

Nathan, tell me about the role you play; because Kassie and you are husband and wife in the film.

NATHAN: Well, yeah, you kind of covered it! (Laughs)  I play her husband, and she plays my wife, and I appreciated the casting situation.  It’s interesting how Taylor chose Kassie because he did say that he wanted someone who was close to his mom’s personality.  I couldn’t think of anybody else other than Kassie because the only difference is Kassie is taller, but they both are such loving, caring people.  They always want to mother you and make sure you’re fed, and you’re safe, and you’re happy, and neither one of them knows the word, “no,” when it comes to the people who they’re taking care of.  I love Kassie anyway, so good for me.

KASSIE:  Yeah, they cut our love scene, and I don’t know what that’s about. (Laughs)

Kassie, what do you remember from when you first met Nathan?  You were at One Life, right?

KASSIE:  No, when I first met Nathan, we were in San Antonio, and we were doing an appearance.  I met Bobbie Eakes (Ex-Krystal, AMC and Macy, B&B) for the first time then too, but I was on The Guiding Light, and I was singing, and Nathan was there.  Nathan and I sat beside each other.  I honestly felt like I had known Nathan my entire life.  We were drinking margaritas and talking, talking, talking, talking, talking, talking.

NATHAN:  Yep!

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KASSIE:  Nathan and my husband, Jim are very good friends.  I have to say, Nathan was so lovely when I was going through my cancer journey.  He came to see me every week, sometimes twice a week when I was in the hospital, and he would come up, and he would hang out with Jim.  I will never, ever forget how lovely he was (it makes me tear up right now) to be there with support for my husband and myself as we went through that.  So, when Nathan asked me to be his wife in the film, I thought, “Well, hey, you practically live with me now, so that sounds good.”

So, Taylor, how did they do on-screen as husband and wife?

TAYLOR:  They’re fantastic.  We’ve only had one test screening, but one of the most consistent things audiences tell me is that they’re not just great together, but they each have such a quiet, brooding depth to them that you can’t help but imagine the back-story that they’re not talking about

KASSIE:  That’ll be the sequel!

TAYLOR:  Killian and the Comeback Kids 2: They Comeback Kids Comeback.

KASSIE:  They’ll come back again!

NATHAN:  Thanks for planting that seed in his head, Kassie.

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TAYLOR:  It was important for me to try to synthesize a mixed-race couple.  So, it was really great to be able to have them, not just be so great together, but there was also the issue of we had to have a little girl who looked like she could not just be my sister, but also both of their daughter.  Creating a family from scratch was great because Nathan and Kassie already had the rapport.

Did you watch them on One Life to Live together? 

TAYLOR:  Yeah!  I was in school most of the time, but I would go to set, and over the last 10 years, friends would send me YouTube clips from the show because for some reason none of the soaps are streaming.  There’s not like a soap Netflix!  It kind of needs to happen!  Soaps, they’re epic; there are decades worth of episodes and shows.

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In this film, music is the backdrop.  It’s your music and your band that is featured?

TAYLOR:  Yeah, my best friend growing up and I were staring to write folk music around the time when I was deciding what script I wanted to make into a film.  We wrote the soundtrack, all the music that people sing, and the underscore, which was surprisingly the most fun part of it all.

Kassie what did you think of Taylor’s music?

 ASSIE:  I think it’s wonderful.   I love music. It’s totally in the heart of me, and I just think that this movie is so timely. Kids these days are having to deal with not knowing what their future is going to be.  In the film, my son comes home, and he is trying to find himself, and he throws himself into his art and his music.  I just think there are a lot of people right now who are going through that.  I think it is extremely relatable, even more so than when you wrote it, Taylor.  I think people are looking for some type of connection, and I think this little movie is a good start.  It’s about people pulling together, and it’s got a strong rooting factor, and you want people to succeed, and it is great.  It takes you on a really nice journey.

You have some dates coming up where the film will play in a movie theatre- one is on September 25th in Atlanta and then another one on October 2nd in Chicago.  Taylor, how do you feel about making appearances for the film during the pandemic? You’re going with masks on? 

TAYLOR:  Oh yeah.  We will be in a bubble; we are just getting into a car and sticking together.  I and John Donchak, who plays opposite me through the whole film, are going to all of those dates, and my co-songwriter, who also appears in the film, will be in Atlanta, if not at both premieres.

NATHAN:  And let me add, please, they’re going against my wishes as a parent, but he is 28- years-old, so all I can say is that we are hoping for the best because we want him to be safe.  He is very determined and passionate about it, so he’s got our support.

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Taylor, in your story, why does Killian come home and live with his parents? 

TAYLOR: His plan at the time is that he has just graduated from a pricey university, and he is supposed to go off with his bandmate on a modest music tour.  He comes home to get his stuff and see his parents after graduating, but his bandmate drops out, and so the plan falls apart, and that’s how he gets stuck in this town and everything is just kind of falling apart. The plan that he had for his life after college gets pulled out right out from under him.

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Nathan, when Kassie and you were on One Life for years, you weren’t there when it ended, as you had already left the show.  How did you feel upon learning it had been canceled by ABC?

NATHAN:  I was so disconnected by that time.  I just knew it was ending, and it wasn’t the first soap to go.  I saw it happening when the other shows started being canceled due to, I could be wrong about this, but I put the blame on reality TV.  By that point I had moved on in my personal and private life.  I was doing a lot of theatre then, traveling back and forth from North Carolina, really trying to keep busy, and fighting off the depression of not working full-time.  I missed Jim and Kassie the most, but I was thrilled that I could bump into them at any time and visit with them.  I kept in touch with Hillary B. Smith (Ex-Nora) and Bob Woods (Ex-Bo) and also, Timothy Stickney (Ex-RJ); in fact, Timothy Stickney’s wife did Taylor’s hair for the film.

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Kassie, how do you feel years later about the cancellation of One Life to Live?

KASSIE:  I still miss it.  I loved it. The hard part about this show in particular being canceled is –one – that there wasn’t closure on it.  It kind of happened randomly, and there was still a lot more story to tell.  They kept it going on General Hospital, where they’ll bring some characters there.  So, it’s still in peoples’ minds. The second part is the friendships and the family connections that you’ve made over the many years that you’re there. Nothing lasts forever, that’s for sure, but as you were saying, there’s no streaming of these shows, but if you catch an episode on YouTube, One Life to Live, truly stands alone.  It just has great stories, great characters, and there is connection there that is very real.

Kassie, your last go-around at DAYS was just epic.  Did you guys see it?

TAYLOR:  I did see pieces of some of it.  I caught some of the “super villain”!

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Eve went in guns blazing, evil as all get out, but so heartbreaking at the same time while she was torturing Ben (Rob Scott Wilson).  What did you think about all of that, Kassie?

KASSIE:  I was really hesitant to watch it because I remembered how “super villain” I was.  I remember getting on the plane, and Jimmy said, “How was it?” and I said, “I’ll probably never work again a day in my life. I’m like this (evil laughs) muah-ha-ha, muah-ha-ha kind of character.”  I mean, you hated what Eve was doing, and you were supposed to, but I think that they did a great job with production values, and it was reasonable what she was doing because she was going off the edge. It’s great to be able to sink your teeth into something that is so out-there and completely different from your own life.  I mean, it was exhausting.  Every day, I would come home and just be like, “Oh my God, give me a cocktail.” Eve had justification for her revenge, even as wrong as it was, and she needed to be heard, and she needed closure, and she made a bunch of wrong moves, and did a bunch of bad, bad, bad things, and now, she is probably in a mental institution somewhere, so…

You and I were on set of DAYS and I was going to interview you.  If I recall, at that point, you did not even know what the story arc was.

KASSIE:  No, I didn’t. When I arrived and looked at the script, I’m like, “Well, who blew up that wedding?”  Then, all of the sudden, “Oh, no!  I blew up the wedding.  This is bad!  I probably am not going to be coming back on this show again.”  I look at story and go, “Uh-oh.  There’s a shut door.”  I like open doors and open windows.

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Taylor, what is your project? Are you continuing to write?  What do you see in the future for yourself?

TAYLOR:  This is my life for me.  The next thing that I think we are releasing is actually something that I made before this because everything is backwards, which is a documentary (very different) about Central American politics, which I’m hoping is out next year.  In terms of new scripts, everybody is a bit torn.  I kind of want to do a biopic of Lee Grant, or I want to do a blues/punk version of something inspired by The Shining.

Well, those are very polar opposite!

TAYLOR:  Yeah, aren’t they?

NATHAN:  Now you see what I’m living with. (Laughs)

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Nathan, you must be proud of Taylor, and it must be very cool to see your son have these multi-faceted talents.

NATHAN:  Of course, I’m proud of him and it’s great, but it’s strange because watching Taylor develop into the person he has developed into and continues to, made me realize that I hadn’t had the type of courage he has.  I had my dreams and certain things that I was very courageous about in my life.  I certainly don’t see him doing some things the way I did them, because he has more common sense than I do when it comes to life choices. His courage just blows my mind.  Most of my closest friends are professional musicians, and many of them, if I were to namedrop, you would know who they are, and they’ve had successful careers, and I’ve always looked up to them and admired them, but I was never that guy.  I just wanted to be a musician because I knew them and we were friends, but I didn’t have the discipline to do what they did, and I certainly didn’t have the God-given talent.  I play a little bit of keyboard and a little bit of saxophone myself, but I have to play one song 757 times before I even start to feel comfortable with it, and Taylor can sit down and start strumming on his guitar, and the next thing you know, he’s written a whole song.  It just blows my mind how creative and talented he is.  He has been surrounded by creative and talented people all of his life. He has absorbed a lot from the different people and the different opportunities he’s had, and I look at him sometimes, and I even say it to my wife, “Who is this kid?”  I like to share this story.  We went to see Taylor do Hamlet.  I’m guessing he was 15 or 16-years-old at the time. I’m watching him doing Hamlet, and I’m sitting in the chair, and I’m crying because I’m thinking to myself, “Oh, my God, he is so good!”  I told Taylor, “I would not tackle Hamlet on a football field, yet alone on stage.”  It made me realize that we had a force to be reckoned with.  He’s pretty amazing.  The bad news for him is that I always tell him the truth, and I lied to him once, and he called me out on it, and I promised that I would never lie to him again.  So, be careful what you ask me because I will tell you the truth from this point on.

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KASSIE:  Taylor was also the director of this film, which I mean, “What the hell!”  This guy is doing everything.  He was deciding on the shots, he was deciding on the lighting, he was deciding this and that, he was editing the script, I’m like, “Holy cannoli!”  He’s like, “No, I want her to wear that shirt; I want her to do this.”  You would do the scene, and he’d come over and talk to you a little bit.  I mean, he was just awesome; Taylor brought so much insight to my character because I’m like, “What’s my relationship, and who are all of these kids?  Are we a loving family?”  We did it very quickly, too.  Taylor, look at what you’ve accomplished, and it is such a beautiful piece of art!

TAYLOR:  From a more functional standpoint as a director, one of the really great things about having the two of them was that Kassie came in half-way through filming, and we’d been working with the young actor/musicians a lot.  Some of them, it was their first big job, but pretty much all of them had worked before.  On Kassie’s first day, they didn’t know what they were in for.  She just rolled onto set, and all of the sudden, the stakes and bar of how to be an actor just changed.  From that point on, when Kassie and Nathan started to work with the band, we knew those were going to be fun days because there was going to be acting involved.  Everyone else just had to come up to their level, which was great for me because it gave me so much more to edit with.

Taylor, who are your musical influences?   

TAYLOR:  That’s a really good question.  My musical obsession for the last few years has been this guy, named Josh Ritter, who is kind of a singer/songwriter/folk guy.  My real-life band, The Cumberland Kids, is named after one of his songs.  Also, Weird Al Yankovic, has been a massive inspiration for me and my songwriting partners.

So, your vibe is this folk-rock.

TAYLOR:  Yeah, that’s what I’m writing mostly.  My listening is kind of all over the place, but definitely that is what I’m writing.

Kassie, who do you like listening to?

KASSIE:  It all depends on what cocktail I have in my hand.

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NATHAN:  Let me chime in on that too! I like jazz, blues, and country music, but imagine what my house was like because I have a lot of instruments here, always with the hope that Taylor would at least become interested in music.  I have congas, bass guitar, keyboards, you name it, and for a while, he wasn’t interested at all, and one day, I woke up and he was playing an acoustic guitar.  Then, the next thing I know, he is writing and singing folk music.  I’m thinking, “Wait a minute!” It was an important lesson for me that just because you want something for your children, doesn’t mean that is what they want for themselves.  We never pushed acting on Taylor.  He chose it on his own.  It’s exciting for me mostly because it was his choice.

KASSIE:  He’s a natural.

And speaking of that, Taylor, in the trailer nothing came across forced or pushed.  Obviously, we are all talking you up here, not that you need it.

NATHAN:  I’ll tell you this, Michael.  During the shoot, Taylor insisted on calling me “Nathan”, and I had a problem with it, but he basically told me to get over it because it’s his set, his movie, and while we are shooting, I’m “Nathan”, and he’ll call me dad later.  I’m still struggling with that but he was the boss.

TAYLOR:  It’s hard to walk that line and not make it weird for your crew, you know?

NATHAN:  I get it.

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KASSIE:  It’s weird for me because when he would go, “Robbie is going to do this, and Nathan is going to do that,” I’d go, “Who are Robbie and Nathan?  Aren’t they your mom and dad?”

TAYLOR:  While I was writing the script I called him over, and I said, “Dad, I wrote you a really good role, and I think we are actually going to do this.  I’m giving you a once in a lifetime chance to name your own character.  Do you want to name him after a Greek hero, or one of your siblings?”  He didn’t take his chance.  So, you know what?  It’s “Nathan” now.  It’s easier for everybody.  We don’t have to break the method acting fourth wall.  (Laughs)

Do you think you would work with Nathan and Kassie again? (Laughs)

TAYLOR:  Oh, my God, are you kidding?

NATHAN:  That’s my contract: Kassie has got to be in it.  So, let me say this about Kassie, you had mentioned something about how much she has been working, and I look at Kassie as the James Brown of daytimes soaps.  She is the hardest working woman in daytime television. 

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She is pretty spectacular. Kassie started on Guiding Light, had a long career on One Life, and then went to General Hospital, then to Days of our Lives.  It’s been amazing that we have been able to see her have a comeback in more ways that one.

KASSIE:  Nathan has jumped from soap to soap as well, and when you’ve done it, you just think it’s over.  It’s not like your regular acting profession jobs when you go out and you know you’re going to audition for twenty-five things and get one role for a short amount of time.  When you go in day in and day out and are creating all of this stuff on a soap opera, and then it ends, you go, “Well, now what am I supposed to do?”  I haven’t been on a set in 6 months, and I feel like I won’t ever work again.  Soaps are just a totally different head trip and so it can be really hard.

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Nathan, do you have a favorite Hank Gannon moment from One Life to Live?

NATHAN:  Oh wow.  Man, there were so many of them.  I can tell you the funniest, to me, maybe not so funny to Hillary B. Smith though.  I think it was during a live show. This was during the time when I had a lot of dialogue.  But this particular day, I had one line, and the line was to Hillary and it was, “How are you feeling?” and her response was, “Well, I’m feeling the way I always feel, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah”.  So, during the entire day, I’d see Hillary, and I’d say, “Hey, how you feeling?”  Maybe nineteen times before we started shooting, “Hey, how you feeling?” and she’d had about enough of it.  So, fast forward to “5, 4,3,2,1 action”, and now, I say, “How you doing?”  If you could see the look in her eyes, it is like, “I will kill you.”  So, she says, “You know how I’m doing.  I’m doing what I’m always doing,” so she could get her line out.  So, once again, she saved Nathan’s ass with that.  One stupid line … and I blew it.  I just remember that one because I just know Hilary wanted to strangle me.  She probably still wants to.

And on that note (laughs) I wanted to thank you all so much for this. I hope you find success with this little gem of a film, Taylor.

So what did you think of the comments made by Kassie, Nathan and Taylor on their film?  What did you think of Kassie’s recent performance on DAYS? What’s your favorite Blair or Hank moment from the history of One Life to Live? Share your thoughts and comments below,  But first, check out the trailer to Killian and the Comeback Kids.

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Greg Vaughan Shares Farewell To DAYS & Scene Partner Arianne Zucker: “Never a Dull Moment, Laughing or Crying, She was the Party, Always with a smile!”

Tuesday’s episode of Days of our Lives had Eric Brady saying a sudden farewell to his loved ones before he departs Salem for Africa to help those in need.  That marks the on-screen departure of Daytime Emmy winner, Greg Vaughan who will last be seen on Wednesday’s episode.

As DAYS fans were aware, Greg wrapped his run months ago on the NBC daytime drama series, but since before the Covid-19 pandemic DAYS taped almost seven months ahead, Eric’s on-screen exit is airing this week.

Over the past two days, Vaughan took to his Instagram to share some sentiments, ‘thanks you’s’ and some photos of some of his favorite memories with his castmates expressing, “Seeing it’s the last week I’m airing on @nbcdays …I wanted to share some great captured memories this week with my incredible fans & castmates.”

The actor also posted a special photo album of pics with his longtime on-screen partner and love interest, Arianne Zucker (Nicole).  In that, he posted this message: “To my Ride or Die partner Ari!! Never a dull moment, laughing or crying, she was the party, always with a smile! Love ya #ERICOLE”

So, will you miss Ericole? Are you sad to see Greg exit Days on-screen? Share your thoughts via the comment section below … AND what were some of your favorite performances of Greg during his time on DAYS.

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