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The Joshua Morrow Interview – The Young and the Restless

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As The Young and the Restless continues to “Flirt with Disaster” this week in a series of shocking events that have put the lives of everyone in Genoa City in dire straits, viewers just witnessed the entire collapse of Nick Newman’s (Joshua Morrow) club, “The Underground”!  While those close to Nick and his family were celebrating Valentine’s Day in a gathering filled with some intense encounters, in a blink of an eye they are all trapped beneath the rubble of the trashed venue, and caught in some oh-so-uncomfortable scenarios.  As for Nick, well, he has been finding himself more attracted to Sage Warner (Kelly Sullivan) who is at the club when it all caves in.  But what Nick doesn’t know is that brother Adam (Justin Hartley) has been lurking around in the guise of Gabriel Bingham … and just what is Sage’s true relationship with the guy?

Meanwhile, Nick recently was awarded custody of his daughter Faith after the bitter ending of his relationship with Sharon (Sharon Case).  As Y&R fans know, Sharon switched the paternity tests, which proved all along that Nick was Summer’s (Hunter King) biological father, while making him believe he wasn’t her dad, and that Jack (Peter Bergman) was!  Sadly for Shick fans, it looks like it’s curtains for Nick and Sharon right now, as they are headed in the path of some new loves!

On-Air On-Soaps sat down with the talented, and oh-so-funny, Joshua Morrow in his dressing room at Y&R to get the lowdown on the massive mess that has struck Nick’s club, and what it was like to film the sequences where he and his cast mates are crawling around in the debris!  Plus, we get a preview as to who will be the true hero in all of this and save the day.  After all, this Newman must feel pretty guilty that due to some poor construction and weather conditions, the customers at his club are not having, shall we say, a very good time.  Later, Joshua weighs-in on the how he feels Gina Tognoni (Phyllis), Justin Hartley, and Kelly Sullivan are faring on the number one daytime drama as recent casting additions in major roles … two being recasts, and one being a chick for Nick!  So, ladies and gents, we bring you Joshua!

MICHAEL:

Everyone is in turmoil this week on Y&R as we “Flirt with Disaster”!  But, where is Nick at with Sharon (Sharon Case) at this point in time, since he won custody of their daughter Faith?  Nick has been harsh on Sharon in regards to Faith, not that she hasn’t done some … umm, unforgivable things!

JOSHUA:

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Nick is probably over-reacting, as Nick tends to do in these situations.  Based on his track record, he is extremely protective of his children now, and so at the slightest hint of danger, no matter what merit anyone gives to it, he instantly goes into this psycho-protective mode, and this is coming at the expense of Sharon (Sharon Case). Unfortunately, Sharon the character, does not deserve what Nick is putting her through, but if he thinks Sharon is a danger to faith, probably isn’t, but if he thinks that, he is going to go to these extreme steps, and act like the way he is.

MICHAEL:

Do you think it’s hard to justify Nick’s actions towards Sharon?

JOSHUA:

It is.  I have a job to do, and that is to tell the story they want to tell.  If I took myself out of the equation, I think Nick is wrong.  I even think Nick knows he is wrong, as he is asking all of his family, “Do you think I am doing the right thing?”  There is clearly some doubt in what he is doing, but he is so concerned about Faith, and Sharon going off the rails again, and so, he can’t risk it as he is trying to protect his child.

MICHAEL:

I also did not get the opportunity to ask you previously: what you thought of how your standalone episode played out, where Nick confronted all the women past and present in his life, and tried to figure out why he is such a failure as a husband?

JOSHUA:

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I did watch it and I thought it was great.  I thought everyone did a great job, and it was a fun show to watch.  To go down memory lane with Julianne Morris Poloha (Amy) and Jennifer Gareis (Grace) was fun.  I think it was pretty appropriate to finally have a show with no other males in it.  I think it’s about time. (Laughs)   Being a 21-year vet of Y&R, I think getting a show that is just about me and women is appropriate. (Laughs)  So, we did that!

MICHAEL:

Did that episode truly include all the women Nick has slept with?  I swear there seemed to be more, because let’s face it, Nick hops in to bed, or wherever, a lot! (Laughs)

JOSHUA:

Well, everyone but Diane was represented, but I think Nick has a reputation of being a slut, but it’s really only with the same girls.  He just keeps going back and forth, but there are many, many characters on Y&R that have been in more beds than me.  Nick is just a bad husband, not a bad guy.

MICHAEL:

So, let’s put this to bed, sort of speak.  Shick is done for now?

JOSHUA:

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Definitely, Shick is done for now.  I hope viewers understand, this isn’t a story we picked, or are promoting, it is just the way the show is going to go right now.  We certainly appreciate all their complaints and ‘Shickness”, but right now Nick and Sharon are not together.  That being said, they love each other.  Sometimes, you can completely love someone, and not be together, and it’s just not right for them right now.  They are certainly not over, by any means, if you know anything about soaps, but for now the page had definitely turned.

MICHAEL:

Four years from now, we will be having a conversation like this, and it will be centered around the fact that Shick are back together again.  Thoughts? (Laughs)

JOSHUA:

We are going to be having déjà vu.  We are going to be here in my dressing room, with you going: “Tell me about you and Sharon falling in love again?” (Laughs)

MICHAEL:

Let’s get to the business at hand this week on Y&R!  The walls have come crumbling down at Nick’s club, “The Underground”.   And isn’t this all due to a building inspection mishap?

JOSHUA:

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Nick has a lot of stuff going on in his personal life, and he is the owner and operator of his club.  Apparently, the building inspector has come by a few times, and there are some issues that need to be dealt with.  Nick is never around, and there is never anyone in his club, so he’s not there. (Laughs).  I don’t even know what the business is there for anymore. (Laughs)  I think Nick just wanted a place to go.  I don’t think he cares if the place makes money.  He just wants to go there and say, “This is mine!” (Laughs)   But apparently, the business inspector has been to the club when Austin (Matthew Atkinson) was there, and Austin forgot to tell Nick there were some issues with the club.

MICHAEL:

So, Austin made a big boo-boo?

JOSHUA:

Yup!  Austin messed up, and Nick has got to clean it up in short order, as they are threatening to shut the club down.  And the biggest night of the year is Valentine’s Day, which was fast approaching.  And, at the Valentine’s Day party, I think there were actually nine people there and eight bartenders. (Laughs)  Nick likes to keep his place heavily staffed.  He likes the ratio to be one-to-one of staff and customers.  Anyways, Nick hires a contractor.

MICHAEL:

Do we know anything about the contractor Nick hired?  Is this a sub-plot?  (Laughs)

JOSHUA:

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No, we don’t know anything about the contractor.  It’s just like “Contractor Jones” showed up.  (Laughs)  So, the guy shows up, Nick pays for it, and it’s done, and the place is up and running.  The party happens.

MICHAEL:

Now, it looks like there is a new girl in town that has caught the lustful eyes of Nick’s Newman … the alluring Sage Warner (Kelly Sullivan)!  What does Nick think of this woman?

JOSHUA:

He digs Sage.  She is a little mysterious.  He doesn’t know what she is doing, and she’s spunky.  She is kind of like a breath of fresh air for Nick, and they don’t know what it is that is going on between them.  They are just hanging out, and she is like a sounding board for Nick, and vice-versa.  She has got some stuff going on with Adam/Gabriel (Justin Hartley) and Nick is always there to talk her through it.

MICHAEL:

So, Sage shows up at “The Underground” for the Valentine’s Day bash, and lo and behold, she ends up bartending!

JOSHUA:

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Yes!  She shows up, and unbelievably, one of the bartenders doesn’t show up for work, and so he wants ten bartenders as opposed to nine!  And apparently, Sage is able to whip up this amazing drink, and it’s a miracle.  She saves the day.  And, when we were taping the scenes I was joking to Kelly going, “Sage, can you clean up table four?”  Nick really put her to work and she volunteered!   Sage works for Nick that night and he gives her a t-shirt and staffs her, but he didn’t make her sign a w-2 form or anything.  So, legally I think there are all kinds of problems here.

MICHAEL:

And then the roof comes down on all the patrons!

JOSHUA:

The roof comes down on everyone, and Nick doesn’t notice, because he is way too busy flirting with Sage.  So, he doesn’t know what is happening because … he just does not stop flirting with Sage! (Laughs)  The roof caves in, and comes down due to the weight of the snow and the shoddy construction contractor work.  When the roof comes down, Sage and Nick are in a different part of the club, as we went to check the generator together, and we get in the rubble.

MICHAEL:

Of course, Nick needed his “bartender” to go with him to check the generator!

JOSHUA:

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Well, Nick said, “I need somebody to hold the flashlight for me.”  He picked Sage over the eight other bartenders that were there.  (Laughs)  So, when they went back to check it, the roof caved in.  Nick and Sage were in the office area where the circuit breakers were, because the lights went out and so they went back there to check it out.  The whole place collapsed, but they are in a different room.

MICHAEL:

Does Nick then go into heroic mode to save his family from certain doom amidst all the destruction?

JOSHUA:

Well, duh! (Laughs)  I think Sage and Nick decide not to have sex due to the risk of tetanus, because there is metal everywhere, so we decided to keep our clothes on.  But yes, Nick goes into, “I’m saving everyone … I don’t care what happens” mode.

MICHAEL:

So, Nick is the hero in all of this?

JOSHUA:

Well, maybe.  Nick and Dylan (Steve Burton) tend to go around and save everyone. Dylan is not there when the roof collapses, but he shows up later.  You need Steve Burton to look heroic, you know. (Laughs)  So, we get the blue-eyed wonder to show up.  Nick and Dylan go digging in the rubble to find everyone.

MICHAEL:

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What was it like filming those sequences of the club’s collapse?  Were they extremely long day taping sequences?  Remember, the “Out of the Ashes” story arc?  Would you say it is similar to that?

JOSHUA:

Yes, it’s a lot like “Out of the Ashes”, but this one is more scaled down.  When we did “Out of the Ashes” it was incredible.  However, this sequence was also incredible, and how they shot it in a much smaller space.  The way they used and created different pockets to illustrate different areas of the club was genius.  They were able to create using half the stage six different pockets of destruction for people to be in … it was incredible.  And, the way they used the space and they shot it, will look enormous on camera.  It was really, really genius work.  To answer your question, yes, they were super long tape days.  We would start at seven in the morning, and go till eleven at night.  It was difficult shooting.  I still have bruises from it.  We were literally crawling around in crap and they are pumping snow and dirt at us, I mean we were filthy!  It was hard work, but really fun.  It looks amazing.

MICHAEL:

Did you get to talk to new head writer and executive producer, Chuck Pratt Jr., when he came on board about what his plans are for Nick?

JOSHUA:

I haven’t spoken to him, but I have met him.  Chuck had a vision for this, because we destroyed the s**t out of everything, (Laughs)

MICHAEL:

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Chuck is known for using the big disaster plot device like the tornado that hit Pine Valley on All My Children, and in doing so it was suppose to change a few characters lives.  Can you see lives forever changed when all is said in done in the collapse of Nick’s club?

JOSHUA:

I don’t know if it will alter people’s lives, and if that’s the case.  It was more about different pockets of people working together to see if they can survive, because there is a building collapse.

MICHAEL:

Nick’s mom and dad (Nikki and Victor) are in there, too!

JOSHUA:

Yeah, Nick doesn’t know if his parents are even alive at this point.  But he knows they are there and he can’t get to them.  Nick doesn’t seem to care about safety measures.  He doesn’t really care about himself at this point.  Dylan comes in, and together they have got to find their mom!  We have Victor (Eric Braeden) and Nikki (Melody Thomas Scott) and Jack (Peter Bergman) and Phyllis (Gina Tognoni) Avery (Jessica Collins) and Joe (Scott Elrod) all in the mix.

MICHAEL:

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How does Dylan (Steve Burton) show up on the scene?

JOSHUA:

Dylan shows up because he wants to find his mom, but when he gets there he finds Nick and Sage trying to dig out of the rubble, and so the three of them find Joe and Avery together, and the paramedics find Nikki and Phyllis. Victor and Jack are also a big part of this mess!

MICHAEL:

What has it been like working with the talented Kelly Sullivan (Sage)?

JOSHUA:

I love her.  Kelly is super funny and I love her personality.  She is not all “actressy”.  I had heard so many cool things about her coming in, and obviously, Michelle Stafford (Ex-Phyllis, Y&R, now Nina, GH) is one of my best friends.  Michelle was talking about Kelly, and that she was the best thing that ever happened to television.  Kelly makes me laugh a lot.  She doesn’t take any of my crap.  She’s very similar to Michelle Stafford in that way – and they have a similar sense of humor.

MICHAEL:

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And, what do you think of Justin Hartley’s portrayal of Adam Newman/Gabriel  Bingham?   He has really made the role his own in a short time.

JOSHUA:

Things started out funky, because Adam wasn’t being totally upfront about his background, but Nick certainly didn’t figure anything out.  It’s a great story that they have with him, coming in.  Justin has done a tremendous job.  There will never be another Michael Muhney Adam.  Michael played him differently.  Justin adds just enough of himself to create this mystique about this character that it really needed. That was really crucial to playing this role – and that is – keeping this element of danger, but being able to fool the town.  There is something about Justin’s clipped line delivery that is fascinating to me.  It makes you think, “What is going on with this guy?”  But then he says something, and you go, “Oh, OK.”   Justin’s delivery is such that he can brush things aside, but the way he delivers his lines are very effective.  In Muhney’s portrayal, Adam’s heart was pulsating on his sleeve.  He was this broken human, and you wanted to hate him, but yet you understood everything he was going through.  Well, you can’t have that character come back, because then it’s so obvious.  Justin plays him with the perfect level of “How am I going to get out of this?”   Next, there is a moment where in a scene the camera goes to the other person and Justin as Adam is looking at them, and then he kind of smoothes that over.  Whether Justin came in as that as his plan, or his choice, or maybe that is just who he is as an actor … it works so well!  My greatest compliment to him is that he needed to be able to play Adam completely differently with this shroud of mystery, and that is exactly what he is doing.  I like watching him.

MICHAEL:

When the truth finally comes out of Gabriel’s true identify, are you looking forward to having Adam and Nick go at it again as brothers and adversaries?

JOSHUA:

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I told anyone who would listen that my favorite relationship on the show is Nick and Adam’s, because there was always something to play.  You can go through down periods in your career where you think, “My character is doing nothing right now.”  But, I always had something to play in scenes with Nick and Adam, and they didn’t even need to write it.   It was just right there between me and Muhney.  It was hate, resentment, and pain, and it was easy to play and fun.  I am looking forward to when that comes about with Justin.  I appreciate they are taking their time with it, because it’s a great story.

MICHAEL:

What about Sage in all of this?  What is she really up to?

JOSHUA:

What’s interesting to me about this is: Sage is being devious as innocent as she is in all of this. There is a method to what she is doing and it is not completely on the up and up, and that gives this layer of danger to her.  Nick is obviously going to fall madly in love with her, and then we will see what happens when all of this comes out, because at any point she could have been honest with what was going on, but she is choosing to protect and go along with this with Adam/Gabriel, which in of itself is pretty dastardly!  

MICHAEL:

Nick is going to be duped yet again … by another woman!

JOSHUA:

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Listen, he is never going to win the Noble Prize for brains.  Nobody wants Nick to be the guy to figure stuff out.  Standing up has never been his problem, but he never is going to sit back and figure things out, because he acts too impulsively.

MICHAEL:

Wait.  Nick was the one that put the pieces together about Phyllis.  He’s had a few moments where the light bulb went off!

JOSHUA:

Well, they’ve got to give him a win once in a while. (Laughs)  I like that Nick is all reaction.  He is not calculating, that is Adam.

MICHAEL:

Have you ever thought what it would be like to play a doppelganger version of Nick?   Certainly, it’s been done before on Y&R.   This way, you would get the opportunity to play a bad dude!

JOSHUA:

No.  I like playing Nick.  I would like to play someone else like that, but in a different project.  But on Y&R, and in this realm, I love playing Nick.

MICHAEL:

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I think it is very difficult, and takes a solid actor, to make a good character remain interesting throughout its run on a soap opera.  What are your thoughts on that having played a good guy for over two decades?

JOSHUA:

I think good is hard to play with a lot of longevity.  Look, there are certainly more interesting characters on the show, and they usually have something dark and insidious about them, but I wouldn’t trade Nick for any of that.  I really, really like my character.  He makes a lot of mistakes, which is fun, and I like the guy!  If he was real, I would hang out with him.

MICHAEL:

Could you see Nick and Phyllis getting back together, and you working opposite Gina Tognoni?

JOSHUA:

I did a scene with her, and it was amazing.  Steve Burton came to me and said, “They need to put you two back together.”  Steve is such a good friend of mine, and I appreciate he took the time to watch, and good grief!  Gina is so talented.  It’s funny.  I remember when they were reading for the role of Phyllis.  I thought Kelly Sullivan was going to get the part, for sure.  I didn’t think there was a question.  Then, I found out the show went with Gina, and she was awesome, too!  Now, I can’t imagine it switched around. Gina has so owned the role of Phyllis now.  She is freaking scary and unhinged.  I like watching her.  She’s really good … I mean, really good!  They did a great job casting her, because I think you can’t replace Michelle Stafford, but Gina has done amazing.  I love the characters of Nick and Phyllis together, and that story was probably my most favorite that I ever told.  I got to work with Michelle, and it put Nick in a different stratosphere.  He was no longer bopping around the coffee house, and it was a very intense relationship that was told very maturely.  The Sharon/Nick/Phyllis triangle was definitely one of my favorites, too.

MICHAEL:

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You have been going on personal appearances around the country with Steve Burton.  What has that been like to work with him away from the Y&R studio? Why do you think the combo of the two of you works in a live venue?

JOSHUA:

Listen, Steve Burton brings me along to the personal appearances for one very obvious reason … to make it zany.  Our roles are very clearly defined, and Steve is such a sharp business man.  I am not that guy.  Steve is like, “Here is what you need to do! You need to do this, and you need to do this…”   So … I had to learn how to make flights! (Laughs) I know that sounds super ridiculous, but Steve is just lean and mean.  He’s got a plan and he is no-nonsense, but you put us together, and he is like the straight man and I am like the idiot brother.  It works!  Steve and I have a great time together.

MICHAEL:

Did you initially think you would enjoy doing these club dates with Steve?

JOSHUA:

I didn’t!  It’s such a different format than what I have been used to over the years, but this by far is the best way to do this, which is: get a van and drive around with your buddy and act like idiots, and people love that, assuming you are good at it.  Steve is a tremendous idiot. (Laughs)

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MICHAEL:

I think many would agree it’s time for you to have your own talk show.  You are a natural at it.  Could you see your career heading that way in the future?

JOSHUA:

It’s my dream.  I would just need the right vehicle.  My hero is Jimmy Fallon.  What he does is insanity, and I feel that is my calling.  I am not afraid to do anything, or make an idiot of myself, and I like talking to people.  I would love to do something like that.

MICHAEL:

“The Underground” has collapsed.  Everyone is in peril.  Give me some parting shots on what viewers are going to see.

JOSHUA:

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All the characters get really dirty.  It’s the dirtiest you have ever seen them! (Laughs) But we all had fun!

MICHAEL:

Did the iconic Melody Thomas Scott (Nikki) have fun too, getting all dirtied up?

JOSHUA:

Melody had fun!  You should have seen her on the stage!  We loved this.  We never get to do this, and it’s good, good TV.

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I adore him and would watchi him every day with anyone. I think it’s time that Nick and Chelsea hook up though b/c that drive Adam totally nutso!!

NICK has a serious problem. Nick doesnt deserve a spectacular women like Sharon! Nick has a sexual impulse control problem. What is wrong with Nick is the question. Is he so self absorbed he lied to Sharon about his feelings for her then jumps into a relationship with Sage. SHARON RUN TO ADAM as soon as you find out the real man who loved you is alive!!! NICK IS INFANTILE ! Sharon and Adam had such a bond. Chelsea no good for anybody! Shadam is love and always will be. Avery and Nick and Phyllis all love themselves and Victor is evil so they all need to cool it leave Sharon and Adam to be happy. Chelsea just find another town to go to. Thanks 🙂

Janet…Y-E-S…T-H-A-N-K Y-O-U!!!!! To me, Nick is N-O-T A M-A-N!!!!! Nick is nothing but an immature, overgrown, lovesick and lust-crazed MAN-CHILD who will NEVER EVER GROW UP!!!!! Bottom Line Here: Sharon deserves W-A-Y BETTER than Nick!!!!!!!

Have a good one, Janet. Peace.

Well see Schick is over. SHADAM is the future. Adam does not under any reason needs to be with Chelsea. Chelsea gave away her 1st born she will give away the second. Or just let Sharon raise Connor with Adam. I hope Chuck Pratt knows the Sharon and Adam long haul what they would do for each other. Some younger new viewers think Shadam was not a true romance because of what Adam has done but most of why Sharon and Adam had problems was the works of Victor and Nicks games and threats to Sharon and Adam trying to fake Skyes death and such. Victor talks fire well he burned the evidence Skye was alive where he had her living. Why Sharon has to always beg Nick has to stop. Why didn’t Chuck Pratt make Nick lose custody of Faith and do the right thing for once for Sharon!

Well, according to backhanded comments JM always makes in interviews, no really likes Sharon much so everything will always be blamed on her and she will always lose and he’ll always win. Dumping the blame for Summer’s paternity on Sharon instead of Nick was just fine by him so he could stay looking the “hero”. The disgusting of treatment of Sharon is all good as it keeps Nick and Sharon apart and keeps selling Nick as the concerned ” good dad” that’s only doing what’s best for his kids…..and, bonus, he gets a new love interest out of the whole deal too! He’s already knocking boots with a complete married stranger after professing undying love for Sharon, then swearing off women for his “own good”. What a crock! Nick Newman has lost all moral fibre for taking a young child away from her mother when it absolutely was not necessary just to vent his anger at Sharon. Nick for me is ruined for good. He’s pointless as a character now because he’s just an abuser.

Never ever ever will I forgive Nick again for what he is doing to Sharon and Faith. I do not like this. Schick is over and good. Sharon was so much better with the man of her dreams who fans remember clear as day is Adam. Adam said all the time he and Sharon are meant to be and he will never give up on Sharon. Please then tell me why the writers are now making Sharon the only person who is given the bad stories. Dylan is a brother figure to Sharon. Avery will be all over the map and Sharon doesn’t need this from Betty . SHARON AND ADAM YES! Love them miss them. Forget Nick. IM so over Nick. Sage will be pregnant soon with Nicks kid because everyone always has to have a Newman or Abbott baby. Let Sharon be happy with Ada, . Chelsea was a drive by who traped another man. I never thought romance love trust when I seen Chelsea with Adam. Sharon and Adam belong the supercouple we fell in love with for all those years ago and still do.

I see he is saying Shick is done. Wow I knew it. Nick failed us and Sharon. How did he profess true love for life and more onto a stranger like Sage, Sage wants Gab we can see that. Gab-Adam and Nick now will fight over Sage. I don’t like Chelsea with Adam so I supose that is better then Chadam getting back together. I don’t like Chadam I fast forward them all the time. I see some like Chadam but they are like watching paint. Sorry Chelsea I think you and Nick are perfect together. I see Dylan likes Sharon. I like that but at the same time I miss Adam and Sharon. i was hoping Shadam would have a chance. Let Sharon who knows her bestie Adam figure out it her husband Adam. Chelsea can go with Nick or Billy

Sounds like Morrow misses Michael Muhney as much as we do.

Sharon and Adam is my choice. Nick has been a boy not a man for more years I care to remember. Nick never took care of Sharon. Victor believe it or not and Adam were who cared for Sharon. Victor that is before the writers made a mess out of the sweet relationship father/daughter Sharon and Victor had. That has to get back ASAP. This hate Victor has for Sharon is so ridiculous . Adam oh dear, Adam loved Sharon. Now I can’t figure out what the writers are thinking making it sound like Adam loved Chelsea. We know that was never the case. Sharon and Adam had us sitting at the edge of the couch waiting for another day of the chemistry of Sharon and Adam. I believe give Shadam a chance they will blow Chadam out of the water. Hear hear Shadam not Chadam not Schick 🙂

I miss Michael Muhney also. Sharon and Michael gave us all Shadam. I think Justin H can do it they just need a chance to show Shadam still has it. So far like in the past Chadam makes me sleepy

What is Joshua talking about Phick? OMG that was the worst even more worst then Chadam. We need a do over. Shick and Shadam was my favorite . Dylan should of turned out Sharons big brother to protect her not Dylans brother of Nick. Nick needs anger mang.

I loved Shadam! No one will be able to do Shadam like Sharon Case and Michael Muhney. They had so much chemistry playing these roles that I cannot see anyone even begin to duplicate that relationship. No one will play Adam like Michael Muhney. Joshua Morrow said it himself! Please do not get them back together as it will just not be the same. I like to think of my memories of the Michael Muhney/Sharon Case days and want to leave it at that.

LET SHADAM LIVE! Shadam is was and will be the best. Nick always takes back all the promises. Tell me why is this idiot always allowed to treat Sharon like crap? Oh Please enoough hey Chuck Pratt time for Sharon anmd Adam back as the hottest daytime couple ever lived. Before your time so read up on Shadams awesome history

as usual brilliant Michael. Love the ease in which you and the actor ask and answer. Always an entertaining read. Thanks

Michael Fairman, you always get the best interviews out of Daytime Drama actors…and this one with Josh Morrow is no exception!

Thank you for this interesting interview with Joshua Morrow. I enjoy him on Y&R, but always felt he could go on to other shows. Thank you Michael.

To bad Josh M. couldnt come over to Days and play Bo Brady once in awhile like Eileen D. does when she plays Kristen…just a thought!!!

Jim, he would make a great Bo.

I always learn so much from your interviews Michael. It’s a shame though Josh can’t see that the trajectory of the Shick pairing and the beat down of the Sharon character was in fact influenced by his request to Jill Farren Phelps to not make him the bad guy regarding Summer’s paternity. He said that he spoke with the EP about this storyline in a previous interview. I think he did influence how this storyline played out and it wasn’t just about letting the writers write what they wanted. The story clearly seemed to be heading in the direction that Summer really was Jack’s daughter, then it suddenly changed and Sharon was thrown under the bus to save Nick’s reputation by making her responsible for switching the DNA results (out of nowhere!). Josh can’t be surprised that there has been backlash on social media towards his character because of it. A lot of fans on boards I read are very disillusioned with Nick. I know I am. His treatment of Sharon has been nothing short of cruel and vindictive. Hurting his kids’ mom is not being a good dad. Far from it.

Shadam yes best . Sharon and Adam had the most love for each other. Nick loves himself. Like Chelsea.

No more Shadam! No one can duplicate the chemistry between Sharon Case and Michael Muhney. Leave it alone!
Find a new love interest for Adam/Gabriel. I never liked Adam with Chelsea. Chelsea is too self-absorbed. Once a con, always a con!

Shadam is the best couple lets face it

I love that JM still is so friendly with MS and that he would love a Phick pairing again. Also glad Shick is over for the near future.. that is a pair that should never get together again.

Nick again tells Sharon how much he loves her with those vowes but he can just love Sage just like that????? No Im done I don’t believe anything does or says. Time for Schick fans to get on the Adam/Gab Sharon train. I loved Shadam. They gave me the feels so awesome 🙂 Shadam rocks my world

No, no no! Only the Sharon Case/Michael Muhney SHADAM will do!

Thank you Michael Fairman. Josh seems so cool and he loves what he does. He is funny and respectful. I suspect he would be a womens dream? Anyway, it is cool to hear how close him and Steve are and the road trips they take together. I would love to see him a Sage together because they seem to have instant chemistry and it gives the viewers something different to watch. They same could be said about Dylan and Sharon. One other thing, it is refreshing to read an interview with a guy like Josh who offers insight and not a lot of company lines!

Phick should have never been created…barf!

JM stated in a previous interview that when they brought him the paternity story he worried how Nick would look, but that the writer’s told him that they had written it in a way that Nick would not come off as the bad guy. I think from Jump Sharon was made to be the fall guy because the Newman’s are never really down for long. Summer was IMO never going to turn out to be Jack’s. They used the paternity “reveal” and “re reveal” to drive story for a year. IMO it was the only reason why Nick and Sharon reunited. To make Sharon’s action out to be bigger betrayal then if she was still on the sidelines trying to keep it together without Nick in her life. Sharon changing the results, the confrontation with Phyllis on the stairs, the coma, Sharon bonding with Summer.., this storyline was planned and dragged out.

It was an interview with Joshua Morrow with TV guide. He said he was really worried about his character NIck denying another man (Jack) to raise his kid and he did not want his character to be that evil and his character to be ruined beyond repair. I guess Sharon Case’s character was convenient to use instead. Great insight, btw, about they used the paternity “reveal” and “re reveal” to drive story for a year. And, now hindsight, it was the only reason why Nick and Sharon were reunited (but not really officially since the paternity was always hanging over her head). I agree that Sharon changing the results, the confrontation with Phyllis on the stairs, the coma, Sharon bonding, was planned and dragged out for a year and over (5/13 – fall of Oct. 2014).

I really wish the writers had the balls to indeed make Nick the bad guy in all of that. Even if Nick turned out to be the father in the end, he played God with all of their lives for 18 years and then tried to cover it all up. A better story would have been Nick sneaking and getting the results that he was the father, but that Sharon found the test and confronted Nick about why he had another test done? 🙂 Nick deserves to have been treated the way Sharon and Phyllis are regularly treated. Yes his family would have forgiven and made excuses for him, but Phyllis, Sharon, Jack, Noah, Summer and Daniel deserved the right to kick that soap box right out from under Nick. The better story would have been Nick working for a year to regain everyone’s trust and forgiveness. Nick should have been the outcast that everyone was whispering about. Nick should have people bring up his past immoral action in every single argument moving forward.

I’m not much of a Sharon fan but I do hate that she became the scape goat for Saint Nick. I wish I could have watched Phyllis look down her nose at Nick for a year 🙂 that would have been icing on the cake.

I really like Josh Morrow, but I can’t stand Nick. Used to be a Shick fan, and I barely tolerated Phick. Now I HATE NICK NEWMAN! Sharon deserves better and Nick needs to gain some insight. Nick has 2 daughters, if he were the “great Dad” everyone claims he is he would never want any man to treat his daughters the way Nick treats women. Yuck!

But thanks for another insightful interview.

I hope they NEVER do a Phick retread. I like Gina’s Phyllis, but Phick and everything about it is terrible. Nick needs redemption at this point and Phick2.0 would make him even more unlikeable, if that’s possible.

I know I might be in the minority here, but I like Shick! They’re great together. I wish they wouldn’t make Nick so heartless towards her, but those two belong together! Not wild about the Sage character. She’s just another distraction for Nick. Put Nick and Sharon back together.

Well I like Nicks character, always did. Never liked Sharon.She was always rude to Nikki and thought it was all about her. People tend to forget the things Sharon has done. Let’s start when she left her family for another man and ran after him to New York, then she tried to blackmail Nikki into letting her host the charity gala and had it not been for Nikki it would have been a total flop. Let’s not forget what she did to Victor’s house I don’t care if she was off of her meds. In the real world she would have been arrested and then arrested again for tampering with the DNA At The lab. I do not feel sorry for that slut bucket. Give me a break

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Thank you to Joshua Morrow about being honest about Michael Muhney’s Adam. There was so much negativity surrounding Michael’s leaving Y&R, it is finally nice to read a former co-worker say something positive. Michael Muhney is a great actor…the best soap opera actor I have watched in my many years…but I won’t share my age…suffice to say I have watched soaps for over 40 years.

I really don’t know where some of you people get your information but I have watched Y&R sense day one and Sharon has always had to bow down to all the Newmans , she is the BEST PERSON ON THE SHOW and she has never left her family for another man , and Victor is the reason she was even in that mansion to begin with her acted like he was her friend and cared about her but as with everything Victor does is for victor’s benefit and NO ONE ELSES , I will always love Sharon and she needs to have Nick beg on his knees for her forgiveness , but Nick needs to come off his high and all so mighty throne . I used to love Nick but the writers have turned him into another Victor , get what he wants and the he** with everybody else .

I agree. Those who really watched Sharon from day one knows she was never some stuck up priss (like Nikki) who only thought about herself, and ran off to be with some guy (unless that’s what society is now calling rape by a stranger or trying to escape wrongful imprisonment for life). That’s some twisted revisionist history for those who just don’t like her character.

I believe the story was going to prove Summer was Jack’s, as even SC said in an interview early last year right here with MF that the writers had a really clever twist planned to “get Sharon out of this paternity mess” that everyone would “love”. I do not for a second believe that she would say that IF the plan all along was for Sharon to really have switched the results and everyone to crucify her; that wasn’t the plan originally. Something changed it so Nick is treated as the hero and Sharon was demonized to the point she loses custody of her daughter. It is for that reason Nick is so hated now. Pairing him with Sage is pointless and pathetic attempt to make Nick seem like a good guy, but it’s too late. That pairing will be a huge bust because Kelly has no gravitas as a character and is a giggling, dull drip. Not to mention she’s a lying schemer with Gabadam and Nick will soon be wearing egg on his face when he finds out about Adam. Lol.

Phick was sick when MS was Phyllis and it still won’t work with GT in the role. GT plays the role as cruel and hard (or “unhinged” in JM’s words) and she looks a little cracked next to Nick. No, I think Phick is dead (yay) and should stay that way. GT is in Peter Bergman’s league and should stay there. Nick was an immature frat boy with Phyllis and he still is, and JM should be thankful to both SC and MS for carrying his character for as long as they did. Truth.

Phick
Phyllis and Nick have as big of a fan base as Sharon and Nick. That is a fact whether you fast forwarded them or not 🙂 I’m one if their many fans and I look forward to seeing what is to come between GT’s Phyllis and Nick. SB was not the only one who saw a spark between those two.

Sharon
Sharon and Nick are series cheaters. Fact. Sharon left her family to go find herself and I believe it was Noah who fell into a pond during her vacation away from her kids and husband. Sharon and Nick were engaged when she went off to New Orleans to find herself yet again, then she ended up in bed with Adam. Sharon and Adam had some plot to get her out of prison… Somehow people thought Sharon was dead.., she thought it better for her family to believe her dead while she vacationed with Sam the ranch guy. Sharon makes terrible decisions that don’t take into account what is always best for her kids or husband at the time.

Who cares about Phick? JM received backlash that last time he suggested Shick was the couple for like so it appears he is working overtime not to disappoint MS again…and btw…Boring Shick is dunzo for now, but now dunzo in the future…just thought I would mention would you forgot.

Wow, look at that another JM interview where he gushes about phick and backhandedly slams Shick and SC. Why am I not surprised at this passive aggressive nonsense? It’s a good thing I’m not a shick fan. To me, no matter how twisted Sharon/Adam were they gave great soap. MM and SC had that IT thing, and I could never get enough. I don’t know if Shadam can ride again, but I know that JH and SC have some chemistry already and it outshines MCE/JH. I personally think, SC and JH could get some magic going as Shadam. I’m ready. Bye JM.

Justin Hartley is so tall and Sharon Case being taller would look beautiful on screen together maybe reconnecting as friends first and only if JH’s Adam becomes available and SC’s Sharon Newman is also single. Possibly in the future. Guess its up the writers who they want to pair up next with her and possibly Dylan. Dylan will be good for Sharon and he will support her in her battle with bipolar and he understands more about having some mental issue. I like that about Dylan and hopefully, IF, Sharon and he become more than friends, he will always treat her right and Faith will have a father figure in him and a family under one roof and Faith will be happy for once and Sharon will finally have a family again, too. Maybe a little Dylan in the future?

I think Joshua is an amazing person. I love that he is so loved that so many fanbase fights over him. I am downright giddy when i read Shick is dead! Hope they stay that way for a long time. I hope that Shadam never comes around..Sharon seems to have great chemistry with Dylan or better yet Jack. And Phick will always be my #supercouple!

Hope they never revisit Phick eyuk!. Although I WAS a shick fan, I LOVED Shadam so much more. Nick isn’t worth all the anguish Sharon goes through to be with him.

Every interview JM does reads the same, would like to see something new from him. SC is mostly the reason he is talked about so much, otherwise he wouldn’t get that much attention.

I don’t like Nick anymore…don’t enjoy his character at all.
Not a big Sharon fan, either, but she is more tolerable than
he is!

This was at the daytime emmys!

Let’s throw a little interracial flavor in the mix…How about a Nick and Hillary or Lilly…LOL! I think that would be awesome. Let me know your thoughts

Disappointed that they are not going to put Sharon & Nick together again. I guess the non wedding was just a tease. Anyway, I enjoy the show, but wish they would make Sharon a little stronger. I think both Joshua & Sharon are both terrific actors! I also enjoyed Michael Fairman ‘s interview with Joshua.

Nick is a pig and always seems to be able to give anyone else the benefit of the doubt but when it comes to Sharon, no way. Phick was an abomination and I hope that relationship is never revisited. Can you say ICK?

Shick is not over. Hated Nick and Sage as a couple. Shadam is over because Adam and Chelsea are a super couple aka Chadam. Stop talking about Shadam being this true love crap when Adam had used Sharon badly in the past. He was never truly in love with her and dumped her when Victor asked him to prove his worth as a son. Adam done just that. Nick need to go to a sex addict clinic!!!!!!!!!!!!! He know damn well he’s still in love with Sharon, Sage is horrible she have more secrets than Nick’s last two wives put together. I hated Nage. Not a great couple show me how many fans they have because the Shick’s fans are not having it.

I just hope that there are not months and months between Sharon and Nick finding out that the baby is not theirs. I hope it is not Adam’s either.

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Stephen Schnetzer Talks On His Return to Days of our Lives and Working with Susan Seaforth Hayes In Emotional Episodes

Who says you can’t go home again? In the case of Another World favorite, Stephen Schnetzer (ex-Cass Winthrop), he has proven that it is true, and you can go back to your soap roots and where it all started for you.

Last week on April 11th, Schnetzer, along with several other key returns were on set at Days of our Lives taping all-new episodes of the Peacock streaming soap opera, centering on the funeral of Doug Williams (the late Bill Hayes), and as part of the iconic soap opera’s 15,000th episode.

Stephen is reprising his first daytime role as Steve Olson, the brother of Julie Williams (Susan Seaforth Hayes). The last time Schnetzer appeared on a DAYS set was during his one and only run on the show from 1978 to 1980. Clearly, viewers will be in for some very emotional scenes when Steve returns to Salem to be there for his sister, Julie in her time of need. In real-life, Susan has been going through her own grief, having just lost Bill back on January 12th at the age of 98.

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Michael Fairman TV caught up with Stephen during the 15K episode celebration ceremony, and during a break from taping the gut-wrenching funeral scenes, to get his thoughts on being part of these highly-anticipated moments that will air later this year in December. Here’s what he shared with us below.

What has this been like for you to work with Susan Seaforth Hayes after all of these years?

STEPHEN: She’s a dream and she’s so bright. We ran lines yesterday and we ended up just visiting for about 45 minutes and just catching up and telling tales about each other’s career. She even dropped off the autobiography that she and Bill did. And being back here at DAYS, every time I turn a corner, there’s another familiar face. When I was on the show 40 more years ago, a bunch of the guys, played softball on a team together. This is really a trip down memory lane as I knew it would be.

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Taping Doug’s funeral must be a hard day for Susan. Are you checking in with her to help hold her up through this?

STEPHEN: I am and I’m checking in with Amy Shaughnessy (Susan’s assistant), and she’s holding her up more than anybody. We’re there for each other.

There will obviously be some major hankie-inducing moments when Steve comes back to Salem to console his sister.

STEPHEN: Oh, wait till you see it in December. It’s going to be great.

Were you surprised you got this call to come back to the show decades later?

STEPHEN: It was out of the blue! I was completely surprised. They should have called me decades ago! That’s what surprised me. When Another World went down, I thought I’d land somewhere else and it never happened. That was more of a surprise.

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Cass is such an identifiable character for you. As well, you and Linda Dano (ex-Felicia Gallant) are so synonymous together as best friends Cass and Felicia from Another World. When fans heard you were reprising your role as Steve Olson on DAYS, they are now hoping there will be more of you on the show to come.

STEPHEN: Steven Olson is a real “Cassian “character. I cut my teeth on Steve Olson and that’s how Cass was introduced. He was kind of a roguish charmer. And then when the character stuck for Another World, they rehabilitated me, and turned me into one of the shows heroes. And that’s what would’ve happened if I stayed as Steve Olson probably. So, Steve is the ‘pre-Cass’, Cass.

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As the story goes, you originally decided to leave Days of our Lives?

STEPHEN: I was never on contract. I was doing a day and a half a week and I got a Broadway play directed by Franco Zeffirelli starring Joan Plowright and Frank Finlay. I was able to it as I didn’t have to break a contract or anything. I cut loose and went back to New York for that.

How well did you get to know Bill Hayes during your first time around on DAYS?

STEPHEN: My first episode was with Bill and Susan, as her long lost brother coming into Salem. They were so good to me. They were so kind. I had been doing eight years of classical repertory theater, never been in front of a camera. I tell everybody, it took me longer than any other actor I’ve ever seen to get comfortable in front of a camera. And they were very supportive at that time in my career. Coming back to honor Bill now in 2024, and to be see Susan, I am just so happy to be here.

Looking forward to seeing the scenes between Stephen and Susan Seaforth Hayes come December and Doug’s funeral and surrounding episodes? Do you hope that DAYS might bring the character of Steve Olson back for a longer stay? Comment below.

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Matthew Ashford and Melissa Reeves Talk Return to DAYS for Doug’s Funeral, Susan Seaforth Hayes, and Their Enduring Friendship

Last week, Days of our Lives celebrated the taping of their 15,000th episode which is tentatively scheduled to air on December 3rd. The story will feature emotional and heart-tugging scenes of Doug Williams funeral and honor his portrayer, the beloved Bill Hayes, who passed away on January 12th at the age of 98.

While the actors, producers, and crew took a lunch time break to pose for some pictures and speak with the press, they knew they would have to get back to taping the funeral, which was going to make it a tough day, but also cathartic for all who loved Bill Hayes.

Several returns have thus far been announced including; Melissa Reeves reprising her signature role of Jennifer Horton (a part she first played in 1985), and Matthew Ashford as Jack Deveraux. Reeves had last appeared on the show back in 2021, and she was replaced by Emmy-winner Cady McClain in her absence when Jennifer was in storylines. In real-life, Melissa had moved full-time to Tennessee along with her husband, Scott Reeves (ex-DAYS, GH, Y&R). Now, and as previously reported, Reeves will first appear back on DAYS for the Thanksgiving episodes with the Hortons.

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Michael Fairman TV caught up with Matt and Melissa during the 15,000th episode celebration to get their take on: being back for these special episodes, how it has been working with and watching Susan Seaforth Hayes portray Julie’s grief over losing Doug, and how they have supported each other through the years. Check out what they shared below.

Melissa, you are back on the set of Days of our Lives for this very emotional and special moment in the series history. How does it feel?

MELISSA: Oh, my goodness. I am honored. I wouldn’t want to be anywhere else but to be here for Bill. He was like my real-life dance partner. He taught me how to ballroom dance. And to be here for Susan, of course, who’s just been our sweet hero this whole week. We’re just following her lead. She’s just been this incredibly strong example for us in the midst of this trial and season of her life. She is like just lifting us all up with her. It’s been incredible.

I was at Bill Hayes memorial service which was truly incredible and I know at the time you were in Tennessee. It was moving and celebratory of his life, all at the same time.

MELISSA: That’s all I have heard. I have to watch it on You Tube. They said it was just a real celebration of his life and I love that.

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This must be difficult for Susan Seaforth Hayes depicting the death of Doug, when she is still grieving the loss of her beloved husband. (Susan pictured above with the returning Stephen Schnetzer who plays her on-screen brother, Steve Olson).

MELISSA: I’m sure Susan has those moments at home by herself, but she’s so good at being a leader and leading all of us. We’re following her, you know, and she’s like, “This is how I want to feel today.” And we’re just going along with her, you know? It’s so sweet.

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How is it to see Matt Ashford again live and in-person?

MELISSA: You know, Matt and I can go years without talking, or seeing each other, and then the minute we see each other we’re chatting away.

MATT: Melissa was out on set doing a scene yesterday on the phone talking to a stage manager; as she was telling some really tough news on the phone. I’m like crying in the background, literally, I’m off-stage crying.

MELISSA: And then we get like back into normal life, and we’re like, okay, “What’s happening? What’s happening with this … or what’s happening with that?”

I had read, Melissa, that you were in touch with Matt about if there night be a possibility for you to reprise your role as Jennifer for these special episodes?

MELISSA: Yes. Well, Matt was like, “Hey! Would you want to come back? “And I was like, “Matt, you know, I would always come back. ”

MATT:  Every time I come here to Days of our Lives, they ask, “Where’s Missy? How’s Missy?” Everybody backstage says, “I miss her.” All of the crew is asking about her and saying, “It would be nice to see Missy. Nothing wrong with you Matt, but …”  They said, “Where is she?” I said, “She wants to come!”

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There are some beautiful photos of Missy and Bill and Susan thorough the years that I found. It just reminded me of just the deep and entrenched history we all have had with the show, personally and professionally.

MATT: Missy is roughly the age where Francis Reid (ex-Alice Horton) was when she started the show, which is just crazy.

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I’ve always said Missy was going to be the next generation Alice. Do you feel that Jennifer is the heir apparent matriarch of the Horton family?

MELISSA: Yes. I mean, this has been greatest blessing of my life, and that would be great. I told Ken Corday (executive producer, Days of our Lives) when I was 17 that this show would be my life. Ken always told me, “This is your home,” and I’ve always felt like that.

How have gotten through the scenes watching Susan Seaforth Hayes as Julie go through the loss of Doug?

MATT: Susan is bringing her best performance life for her and Bill. I mean, she’s a showbiz baby. She always has been one hundred percent, and she’s doing it for him, and this is who they’ve always been. So, you’re seeing this amazing performance colored by her life. She has her private life as Susan, but she has enough plugged into Julie that she’s done amazing work. The director, producers and writers are giving her room to live in these moments and it’s quite wonderful.

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Have you already broken down in tears during the taping?

MELISSA: Yesterday, but today’s taping of the actual funeral I think they want us to try and be just more celebratory.

MATT: I mean, it is a beautiful long life for Bill Hayes and his character of Doug Williams, and so it will be about that. Then, you get a bunch of us together in the church pews, and there’s going to be hijinks.

MELISSA: We all have been through the waves of grief. You have that awful cry and then all of a sudden you feel okay.  There are those family situations we are portraying where you’re like, “What do we do? What do we do now? You know, no one knows what to do. But, it’s so sweet. I’m looking forward to seeing how the scenes all turn out.

So, are you glad that Matt and Melissa are back for the 15K episode and Doug’s funeral? From what we can tell, it’s going to be quite an emotional journey for Days of our Lives fans, and especially the performance of Susan Seaforth Hayes, 

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Ron Carlivati Talks on Decision to Make Days of our Lives 15000th Episode About Doug’s Funeral, and Previews Chances for WGA Award

This week, Days of our Lives celebrated the taping of their 15,000th episode. In of it itself, that is an incredible accomplishment for the long-running soap opera currently streaming on Peacock.

However, this on set gathering was a bit different. Though the show is celebrating their achievement, they are also in the middle of taping scenes surrounding the death and the funeral of Doug Williams, played by the late Bill Hayes, who passed away on January 12th of this year at the age of 98.

As previously revealed many longtime favorites are back to honor Bill and the character of Doug including: Gloria Loring (Liz), Melissa Reeves (Jennifer), Matthew Ashford (Jack), Maree Cheatham (Marie), Victoria Konefal (Ciara) and Stephen Schnetzer (Steve) to name but a few.

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Michael Fairman TV was in attendance and spoke with Days of our Lives head writer, Ron Carlivati to gain some insight into how the 15,000 episode was crafted and the decision to honor the character of Doug Williams and Bill Hayes as its epicenter. In addition, Ron weighed-in on this Sunday’s April 14th WGA (Writers Guild of America) Awards, where he and his writing team are facing off with General Hospital for the daytime drama prize. Here’s what Ron shared below.

Was this your idea to make the 15,000th episode centered around Doug’s funeral and passing?

RON: It was. When you’re looking at it, and laying out the calendar for the whole year and you see 15,000 is coming up, we’re like, “What are we going to do?” And then, we got the news that Bill had passed away and something kind of clicked. I was like, “We should honor Doug on that show.” So then, we started to kind of build around that … when does he pass away? How does he pass away? Who could come back? You know, it’s a lot.  I’m very pleased with the returns that we got as there’s so much that you could do. We wanted everybody we could get. So, we put together a wish list and Janet Drucker (co-executive producer, Days of our Lives) made it happen.

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You have Melissa Reeves back as Jennifer, when the role was last played by Cady McClain. What has it meant to have Missy back for these shows?

RON: It was so nice to see Missy Reeves. I think Cady has done such a good job, but on the 15,000th episode to see Missy as Jennifer, it’s a big deal. So having her was great, and overall, the milestone was a big undertaking, because you want to live up to it. You want the 15,000th episode to be good. Now, it has a lot of real emotion that you’re playing. because for the cast and the crew they’re honoring Bill Hayes just as much as we’re honoring Doug Williams.

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Was it hard for you and the team to write this episode?

RON: Yes. I’ll tell you why it was hard to write.  When I wrote, for example, Asa’s (Phillip Carey) death on One Life to Live or Victor’s (John Aniston) on DAYS, Asa is a different type of character. Like, you could have characters going, “Oh! I’m glad he is dead.” You could have different points of view, but with Doug, you’re not having that. Every person loves this man. No one had a bad relationship with him. So, you’re challenge as a writer is how do you make it that not everybody’s saying the same thing and doing the same thing. And so, we tried to find ways to make the episode about all the familial relationships and yet, how do you make it about Doug and yet broaden the scope.

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I had spoken to Susan Seaforth Hayes (Julie), a week after Bill’s memorial, for an interview. She said that she felt very fortunate that you did include her on discussions of how you would tackle Doug’s passing. How did that conversation go?

RON: First, I attended Bill’s funeral, which was incredible. I said to so many people it was an emotional service, but it was hard to be sad at this. The guy had an incredible life and it was an incredible celebration. And so, you’re sitting there watching this knowing that you now have to write something similar. And how do you write something that lives up to what you just witnessed? I wanted to talk to Susan to get her thoughts about, you know, how much do you want this to be about keeping Bill separate from Doug. How comfortable are you sharing your grief. She was incredible to talk to. It was a great chat.

You’re in the middle of taping these major scenes for the 15,000 episode to air in December. How do you think it’s going? Have you seen any of the scenes?

RON:  I haven’t seeing anything. I mean, we were still making changes to the script up till this morning!

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The Writers Guild Awards are this Sunday, April 14th and once again this year there are two daytime drama nominees, General Hospital and Days of our Lives. How are you feeling about your chances this year?

RON: It is often just GH and us in the category. I’ve won three years in a row, so I’m kind of feeling like it’s their turn.

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What episodes did you submit for contention? If I recall, they had to do with Victor’s memorial.

RON: The episodes we submitted were centered around Victor’s funeral. I think one has story with Vivian (Louise Sorel). We had some fun stuff, we had some emotional stuff at Victor’s death, and I am pretty sure that our submission was three episodes right around that time.

Did you make the decision to go with those episodes because there was a mix of humor and drama?

RON: I like to have some humor, but it was also the funeral, then there’s Sarah (Linsey Godfrey) giving birth, and then Vivian’s crashing the reading of the will. So, we had a lot of fun and it’s hard sometimes to pick three that tell a story, as opposed to submitting for the Daytime Emmys, where the writing team only submits two shows. So, we shall see how it goes on Sunday.

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So, are you looking forward to the emotional 15,000th episode of Days of our Lives? Do you think DAYS will take home the WGA writing award for daytime dramas for the 4th year in a row? Comment below.

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